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July 20, 2014, 09:49:35 PM
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hate to sound like a troll here, but any relative ETAs?

Nope. Not for the time being.

But you can expect the pace of development to be as fast as always.



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July 20, 2014, 09:50:23 PM
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Ok folks, roadmap update time...



Release the Kraken  Wink

Preparing for the trolls to ask for 50 clarification requests and why Dan didn't deliver world peace...

I've noticed the same trend. Instead of blatant fudding, trolls now try to weasel in uncertainty by posing seemingly legitimate questions. On the bright side; it's a sign of XC maturing. We've left the phase where people could yell profanities to bring us down. I'll be courteously answering repetitive questions until my fingers bleed a bit. As proposed by Arlyn, remaining polite is the best way.
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July 20, 2014, 09:50:27 PM
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Here's our latest roadmap to Rev 3 and beyond!

- the Rev 2 "UI update" is a progress bar for private transactions and send fail/success confirmation. It's not the major Rev 3 UI update.

- private transactions and EM will be merged into a single app at Rev 2.5.









Looks just like the 1st roadmap.

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July 20, 2014, 09:51:01 PM
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Arlyn, thanks for the communication. Took a look this morning and saw that Bittrex was now 3rd overall in volume, and one of their top coins has a problem with a missing dev. People are confused about the communication with XC? At least we have people around to communicate with. Just keep doing what you are doing Arlyn. Many supporters here who appreciate your time and effort.

Thank you sir! I'll keep on communicating. And the clarity of information on XC will only improve.

My goal is to have the necessary information highly visible from all our platforms - and to have it all continually updated without some info getting out of date.



It must be so frustrating having to deal with all the trolls that have insecurity issues because they got burned by having other pump and dump coins dev constantly disappearing on them.   They are just not used to XC with the professional team that actually have an official PR person.

Keep up the good work!


Heh. Yeah, it'll take a while before the crypto world realises we're not the usual transient cryptotrash.

Until then, we'll need to continually affirm, support, and reaffirm people of where XC's at and what XC is.

It's a trust thing, and honestly people's low level of trust about cryptocurrencies is realistic, given the past.

But the community here is awesome, and it's growing. I can't wait to see how things will be in a month.

I feel you man.

I think the matter of perspective can fuel frustration on each side also.

I mean, you see all the great thing going on behind the scenes and that things are really starting to come together. You guys are also busting your butts and putting in long hours, so when you see posts from people constantly asking for updates or yet another confused investor, I can see how it might grate your nerves a bit. It can make them seem a bit whiny, ungrateful, etc.

From the investors' side--- They're in it for the long haul. Most of the coins are off the exchanges and in their wallets. They have quite a bit invested because they see the potential.  As someone mentioned earlier, some may have been burned by other coins in the past.  When it's quiet on the update front for a few days (because you're working, have lives, etc.) they can start to get a bit antsy. Especially when they're essentially told to trust or gtfo (not saying you've done this personally).

There's just that point where trust/anticipation and proof/delivery need to meet. Once you find that sweet spot you have happy campers all around. Smiley



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July 20, 2014, 09:56:48 PM
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Looks just like the 1st roadmap.

I beg to differ:

- UI update at Rev 2

- Rev 3 UI preview at Rev 2.5

- Rev 2.5 is the point at which trustless mixing is merged with secure private messaging

- Additional updates to xnodes in the Rev 2 phase (just to whet your appetites :-).



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July 20, 2014, 09:58:17 PM
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from dan :

"I will be releasing an updated roadmap this weekend and also an updated wallet with improvements to the private transactions feature"

Is the wallet already been released with 2.45 or we will have a wallet release as well today?

Thank you.

PS:I am sorry to sound as a dick but no ETA at this stage is not really professional... at least for Rev 2.5.. and when there will be the official bounty?


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July 20, 2014, 09:59:36 PM
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I feel you man.

I think the matter of perspective can fuel frustration on each side also.

I mean, you see all the great thing going on behind the scenes and that things are really starting to come together. You guys are also busting your butts and putting in long hours, so when you see posts from people constantly asking for updates or yet another confused investor, I can see how it might grate your nerves a bit. It can make them seem a bit whiny, ungrateful, etc.

From the investors' side--- They're in it for the long haul. Most of the coins are off the exchanges and in their wallets. They have quite a bit invested because they see the potential.  As someone mentioned earlier, some may have been burned by other coins in the past.  When it's quiet on the update front for a few days (because you're working, have lives, etc.) they can start to get a bit antsy. Especially when they're essentially told to trust or gtfo (not saying you've done this personally).

There's just that point where trust/anticipation and proof/delivery need to meet. Once you find that sweet spot you have happy campers all around. Smiley





Couldn't agree more. It feels like a fuel line... the flow's gotta be just right. Alternatively more trust will allow greater variation in the flow.



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July 20, 2014, 10:02:04 PM
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from dan :

"I will be releasing an updated roadmap this weekend and also an updated wallet with improvements to the private transactions feature"

Is the wallet already been released with 2.45 or we will have a wallet release as well today?

Thank you.

PS: no ETA at this stage is not really professional... and when there will be the official bounty?



Dan's post referred to Rev 2.45. It's out already.


We're under no obligation to give you an ETA. Why would you expect one? You've got no idea how many variables this depends on.

It's not only professional to not give one, it would be irresponsible, thus unprofessional, to wantonly give dates without being 100% certain we couldn't keep our word.

Why would an ETA make a difference anyway? EM is already being tested; it's not as if we've got nothing to show for. It'll be out in due course.

The big public bounty is around Rev 3.


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July 20, 2014, 10:05:04 PM
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hate to sound like a troll here, but any relative ETAs?

I can answer this one....

/puts on asshole cap

When its good and done and ready to be so.

( Then I wonder why I am never in charge of PR lol )

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July 20, 2014, 10:05:44 PM
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Just a small suggestion, could you release new roadmaps with same layout as the previous one? Wink
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July 20, 2014, 10:06:00 PM
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from dan :

"I will be releasing an updated roadmap this weekend and also an updated wallet with improvements to the private transactions feature"

Is the wallet already been released with 2.45 or we will have a wallet release as well today?

Thank you.

PS: no ETA at this stage is not really professional... and when there will be the official bounty?



Dan's post referred to Rev 2.45. It's out already.


We're under no obligation to give you an ETA. Why would you expect one? You've got no idea how many variables this depends on.

It's not only professional to not give one, it would be irresponsible, thus unprofessional, to wantonly give dates without being 100% certain we couldn't keep our word.

The big public bounty is around Rev 3.




I agree with you. Thanks for the updated roadmap too.
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July 20, 2014, 10:06:12 PM
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from dan :

"I will be releasing an updated roadmap this weekend and also an updated wallet with improvements to the private transactions feature"

Is the wallet already been released with 2.45 or we will have a wallet release as well today?

Thank you.

PS: no ETA at this stage is not really professional... and when there will be the official bounty?



Dan's post referred to Rev 2.45. It's out already.


We're under no obligation to give you an ETA. Why would you expect one? You've got no idea how many variables this depends on.

It's not only professional to not give one, it would be irresponsible, thus unprofessional, to wantonly give dates without being 100% certain we couldn't keep our word.

The big public bounty is around Rev 3.



Thanks synechist...

One question though...

Is rev2 out and working on mainnet? If it is im not sure than many people are aware of that fact mate? And if it is I "thought" we were going to use some of the bounty to promote it.. I may be way off here? I think im still confused from the REV 2 release day ! lol

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July 20, 2014, 10:07:05 PM
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I intended an estimate... you can give as well a week time frame or a month time frame.

Anyway when there will be the public bounty? after 2.5? Was supposed to be after rev 2

thank you


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July 20, 2014, 10:09:38 PM
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from dan :

"I will be releasing an updated roadmap this weekend and also an updated wallet with improvements to the private transactions feature"

Is the wallet already been released with 2.45 or we will have a wallet release as well today?

Thank you.

PS: no ETA at this stage is not really professional... and when there will be the official bounty?



Dan's post referred to Rev 2.45. It's out already.


We're under no obligation to give you an ETA. Why would you expect one? You've got no idea how many variables this depends on.

It's not only professional to not give one, it would be irresponsible, thus unprofessional, to wantonly give dates without being 100% certain we couldn't keep our word.

The big public bounty is around Rev 3.



Thanks synechist...

One question though...

Is rev2 out and working on mainnet? If it is im not sure than many people are aware of that fact mate? And if it is I "thought" we were going to use some of the bounty to promote it.. I may be way off here? I think im still confused from the REV 2 release day ! lol

Yes Rev 2 has been implemented since 7/7/14, and has been on mainnet for weeks.

The paid PR will go out when Rev 2's UI update and yet-to-be-announced "Xnode update" tech is done.


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July 20, 2014, 10:12:24 PM
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Just a small suggestion, could you release new roadmaps with same layout as the previous one? Wink

just tilt your  head sideways and you're all set  Wink

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July 20, 2014, 10:13:45 PM
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I intended an estimate... you can give as well a week time frame or a month time frame.

Anyway when there will be the public bounty? after 2.5? Was supposed to be after rev 2

thank you



Think about it. Rev 2 was released thirteen days ago, we are now on Rev 2.45..
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I intended an estimate... you can give as well a week time frame or a month time frame.

Anyway when there will be the public bounty? after 2.5? Was supposed to be after rev 2

thank you



Think about it. Rev 2 was released thirteen days ago, we are now on Rev 2.45..

yea and still no public bounty to crack the anon

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yea and still no public bounty to crack the anon

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Dan's post referred to Rev 2.45. It's out already.


We're under no obligation to give you an ETA. Why would you expect one? You've got no idea how many variables this depends on.

It's not only professional to not give one, it would be irresponsible, thus unprofessional, to wantonly give dates without being 100% certain we couldn't keep our word.

Why would an ETA make a difference anyway? EM is already being tested; it's not as if we've got nothing to show for. It'll be out in due course.

The big public bounty is around Rev 3.
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I intended an estimate... you can give as well a week time frame or a month time frame.

Anyway when there will be the public bounty? after 2.5? Was supposed to be after rev 2

thank you



Think about it. Rev 2 was released thirteen days ago, we are now on Rev 2.45..

yea and still no public bounty to crack the anon

I've just told you guys that the public bounty is a Rev 3 thing. Did you not see it?

It's been a Rev 3 thing since we released the previous roadmap. I don't know how many times I've mentioned this.

Here's how it works:

- we release Rev 3 as an official public launch.

- thus we declare Rev 3 ready for general public use

- and to prove it we have a big bounty for anyone who can provably break XC's privacy.

Make sense now why it's stupid to offer a bounty before then? We'd have neither a completed app nor a reason to prove it.


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July 20, 2014, 10:19:00 PM
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Thank you for the updates synechist Smiley. I personly think that you are doing a fantastic job. everything is perfectly clear in my mind as to what has been implemented and what is under development.

The updated roadmap is very clear and easy to understand.

A big thanks to you and the Dev team.
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