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[mr_random]

I do think some people have very high expectations of the XC team in terms of wanting constant assurance, updates, deadlines, road maps etc. It's literally on every page.

The XC team have proven themselves time and again. Be patient and do your research. If you have a twitchy finger or fancy yourself as a day trader who can make money and you want to sell, then fine. If you want to wait on the sidelines and see what will happen, that's also fine. Ultimately though, the XC platform is just going to go from strength to strength so unless BTC crashes, XC is only going to surge in price in the coming months.

[synechist]

I intended an estimate... you can give as well a week time frame or a month time frame.

Anyway when there will be the public bounty? after 2.5? Was supposed to be after rev 2

thank you

Think about it. Rev 2 was released thirteen days ago, we are now on Rev 2.45..

yea and still no public bounty to crack the anon

It's completely understandable. Look, if they are making a new secure feature for anon that's yet to be announced, if its a new key feature, another world first for example, a public bounty would have allot more impact alongside its release, as well as with a PR campaign.

Business wise it makes perfect sense.

On a side note, keep up the excellent work synechist.

Thanks Mwalshe. Yeah, there's some smart stuff in development. Obviously we can't reveal anything until it's actually done, but it's a clever one.

Also, for some perspective, Rev 3 is the foundation for XC. The stuff coming afterwards, like interchains, is much more significant. Web 3.0 significant.

[CryptoGretzky]

Come on people. Reading comprehension. Seriously.

Trolls aren't here to comprehend... they are here to troll....

Trolls do not make the italian xc thread idiot

Where does it say you are the troll?  Hmm... self realization?

[BrewCrewFan]

Well..... I am not going to lie, without any ETA the price will most likely fall, maybe even down to 100k again. Lets be honest, people want to make money and if they're tied up in XC with no ETA for anything new they will dump.

Guess I'll just hope to pick up more cheap coins.

Good let it fall. I can buy cheaper then. I already have a nice amount, more will always be welcomed. Between the idiots selling under value and what I mined, in a year I am going to be laughing at all you sipping some exotic drink in my modest home that will be paid off.

[synechist]

[subjective opinion about trading snipped]

Think about it. Rev 2 was released thirteen days ago, we are now on Rev 2.45..

Enough said.

[flashbit]

Given the price now, it would appear many are not happy with this update?

Perhaps dates tied to milestones would help boost confidence Arlyn.

In any business, a project with dates tied to milestones always ensures success. Estimate dates with contingency added should be doable in any project. I understand your opinion on this but you should admit a roadmap is not really a roadmap if you don't know how long it would take to get there and when you will arrive?

I would be interested to know if Dan shares your same sentiment on this as I understand you speak for him and the team?

btw: thank you for your great communication today its been helpful.

[synechist]

Given the price now, it would appear many are not happy with this update?

Perhaps dates tied to milestones would help boost confidence Arlyn.

In any business, a project with dates tied to milestones always ensures success. Estimate dates with contingency added should be doable in any project. I understand your opinion on this but you should admit a roadmap is not really a roadmap if you don't know how long it would take to get there and when you will arrive?

I would be interested to know if Dan shares your same sentiment on this as I understand you speak for him and the team?

btw: thank you for your great communication today its been helpful.

Sure. I'm ok with broad estimates. The dev team have pushed themselves so hard of late that they haven't been in a position to assess timescales.

Not that this matters. We're on Rev 2.45 already. And XC has always had an insane rate of development.

[flashbit]

Given the price now, it would appear many are not happy with this update?

Perhaps dates tied to milestones would help boost confidence Arlyn.

In any business, a project with dates tied to milestones always ensures success. Estimate dates with contingency added should be doable in any project. I understand your opinion on this but you should admit a roadmap is not really a roadmap if you don't know how long it would take to get there and when you will arrive?

I would be interested to know if Dan shares your same sentiment on this as I understand you speak for him and the team?

btw: thank you for your great communication today its been helpful.

Sure. I'm ok with broad estimates. The dev team have pushed themselves so hard of late that they haven't been in a position to assess timescales.

Not that this matters. We're on Rev 2.45 already. And XC has always had an insane rate of development.

Understood the development has been incredible but I do think broad estimates as you put it would go along way. Something for the team consider.

[synechist]

they are making a new secure feature for anon that's yet to be announced, if its a new key feature, another world first for example, a public bounty would have allot more impact alongside its release, as well as with a PR campaign.

Business wise it makes perfect sense.

On a side note, keep up the excellent work synechist.

Thanks Mwalshe. Yeah, there's some smart stuff in development. Obviously we can't reveal anything until it's actually done, but it's a clever one.

Also, for some perspective, Rev 3 is the foundation for XC. The stuff coming afterwards, like interchains, is much more significant. Web 3.0 significant.

Just want to reiterate this aspect of the updated timeline because people seem to have wanted dates and thus missed what's much more significant: NEW TECH.

[swannsonite]

Something that would be really awesome was if this tread wasn't the most active place to discuss XC. Reddit is a ghost town I post what I can and answer questions but really no one is there. XC forums are nice from time to time but this site takes the cake for activity and IMHO that is a problem things just get lost in 800+ pages. For example of activity the updated roadmap is not yet on twitter, facebook, xc-forums or reddit. This is just me talking from what I have seen and have been following and want nothing but for XC to be THE crypto currency. Would it be so difficult to have reddit, facebook, twitter, XC forums and bitcointalk open in different tabs and post updates simultaneously to all?

I hope this is coming off as constructive criticism that is all it is meant to be I am just frustrated because I hate this forum being the place to go. I have kept up with this page from the OP and the pre moderated OP so I am pretty sure I have read every single post and can tell things get lost in the clutter. Is this just me what do the other members think or prefer? Personally reddit is my favorite place to go, topics are clear and conversations are easy to keep organized.

/rant

[adhitthana]

Thanks for the welcome's  

The only concern i have Teka is that i don't have enough XCurrency  .

I find when the price is going down I have too many and when it is going up I somehow don't have enough

[zythos]

Thanks for the welcome's  

The only concern i have Teka is that i don't have enough XCurrency  .

I find when the price is going down I have too many and when it is going up I somehow don't have enough

Try not to look at the price too much  .
XCurrency is a long hold 

[synechist]

they are making a new secure feature for anon that's yet to be announced, if its a new key feature, another world first for example, a public bounty would have allot more impact alongside its release, as well as with a PR campaign.

Business wise it makes perfect sense.

On a side note, keep up the excellent work synechist.

Thanks Mwalshe. Yeah, there's some smart stuff in development. Obviously we can't reveal anything until it's actually done, but it's a clever one.

Also, for some perspective, Rev 3 is the foundation for XC. The stuff coming afterwards, like interchains, is much more significant. Web 3.0 significant.

Just want to reiterate this aspect of the updated timeline because people seem missed what's significant: NEW TECH.

[mikemikemike]

Given the price now, it would appear many are not happy with this update?

Perhaps dates tied to milestones would help boost confidence Arlyn.

In any business, a project with dates tied to milestones always ensures success. Estimate dates with contingency added should be doable in any project. I understand your opinion on this but you should admit a roadmap is not really a roadmap if you don't know how long it would take to get there and when you will arrive?

I would be interested to know if Dan shares your same sentiment on this as I understand you speak for him and the team?

btw: thank you for your great communication today its been helpful.

No, please don't. Release dates create speculation bubbles, this in turn creates volatility and ultimately discontent. Lets just enjoy the fact we have an excellent team working on an excellent project and enjoy the steady rise in value.

Anyways, Keep up the great work synechist. It was a great idea to employ you and your doing an excellent job, as are the rest of the team. Im really looking forward to Rev 2.5 and then Rev 3. Current belief is a value of $25 million to coincide with the latter and its subsequent PR, this doesn't include any potential bitcoin bubble either.

Really happy with everything that's going on here. Hopefully once I'm done on my travels I can come meet you guys in person at one of the conferences to express our gratitude.

Take care guys, hope you all have a splendid week.

[ssmc2]

Given the price now, it would appear many are not happy with this update?

Perhaps dates tied to milestones would help boost confidence Arlyn.

In any business, a project with dates tied to milestones always ensures success. Estimate dates with contingency added should be doable in any project. I understand your opinion on this but you should admit a roadmap is not really a roadmap if you don't know how long it would take to get there and when you will arrive?

I would be interested to know if Dan shares your same sentiment on this as I understand you speak for him and the team?

btw: thank you for your great communication today its been helpful.

No, please don't. Release dates create speculation bubbles, this in turn creates volatility and ultimately discontent. Lets just enjoy the fact we have an excellent team working on an excellent project and enjoy the steady rise in value.

+1

[synechist]

No, please don't. Release dates create speculation bubbles, this in turn creates volatility and ultimately discontent. Lets just enjoy the fact we have an excellent team working on an excellent project and enjoy the steady rise in value.

Anyways, Keep up the great work synechist. It was a great idea to employ you and your doing an excellent job, as are the rest of the team. Im really looking forward to Rev 2.5 and then Rev 3. Current belief is a value of $25 million to coincide with the latter, this doesn't include any potential bitcoin bubble either.

Really happy with everything that's going on here. Hopefully once I'm done on my travels I can come meet you guys in person at one of the conferences to express our gratitude.

Take care guys, hope you all have a splendid week.

Hello Mike! Always a pleasure to have you drop in on the thread.

Ha ha. Yes, I've even contemplated simply surprising people with news, with no warning or roadmap, so that the price is always driven by what's actually released. But that has its own problems, of course.

Thanks for the vote of confidence. I'm super-excited about the future too.


P.S. Definitely come to the next conference we're at. That'll be great. I suppose we'll be letting the word out about our calendar at some point before Rev 3...

[DFJ]

Another opinion on the roadmap: We need to spend more time thinking about adoption as a payment platform.  Right now we have an indeterminate timeline to the fully featured v3 release (which is mostly focused on technology), plus some hand-waving at ATMs and PoS.  That statement is a bit brusque but it's also true.

No one should care about either ATM or PoS, and frankly no one on the XC team should be spending hardly any time or energy on it.  What fraction of BTC usage is via either of those two channels?  Less than 1%?  The reason for that is because the idea that you can offer a solution remotely competitive with WF or Visa or whatever is a joke.  What would be far more valuable is discussions about areas we can add value with e.g. the OpenBazaar guys, or various internet payment platforms that have real transaction volume and currently only offer BTC / LTC / etc.  Are those discussions occurring?  Are we waiting to have those discussions until we reach certain technology milestones?  Whats the plan?

Basically, Dan is a smart guy, but so are plenty of others devs working on anon, and it's not reasonable to assume that XC technology will be so far superior that it will be adopted over other solutions just because it exists.  And at some point you need actual adoption by non-miners / non-investors or we are just trading among ourselves which is not sustainable.  I guess I'm kind of giving a betamax vs. VHS speech here, but it matters and getting a workable product that people are actually using for payments is not only a massive differentiator against other anon coins, but also at some point a requirement of success.

[synechist]

Another opinion on the roadmap: We need to spend more time thinking about adoption as a payment platform.  Right now we have an indeterminate timeline to the fully featured v3 release (which is mostly focused on technology), plus some hand-waving at ATMs and PoS.  That statement is a bit brusque but it's also true.

No one should care about either ATM or PoS, and frankly no one on the XC team should be spending hardly any time or energy on it.  What fraction of BTC usage is via either of those two channels?  Less than 1%?  The reason for that is because the idea that you can offer a solution remotely competitive with WF or Visa or whatever is a joke.  What would be far more valuable is discussions about areas we can add value with e.g. the OpenBazaar guys, or various internet payment platforms that have real transaction volume and currently only offer BTC / LTC / etc.  Are those discussions occurring?  Are we waiting to have those discussions until we reach certain technology milestones?  Whats the plan?

Basically, Dan is a smart guy, but so are plenty of others devs working on anon, and it's not reasonable to assume that XC technology will be so far superior that it will be adopted over other solutions just because it exists.  And at some point you need actual adoption by non-miners / non-investors or we are just trading among ourselves which is not sustainable.  I guess I'm kind of giving a betamax vs. VHS speech here, but it matters and getting a workable product that people are actually using for payments is not only a massive differentiator against other anon coins, but also at some point a requirement of success.

You've basically summarised our whole outlook. Real-world adoption is the key to XC's success, and this comes down to quality marketing and to effortlessness of use.

At present our main thrust though is to make XC usable at any traditional point of sale system. That's pervasive real-world usability that will outdo Bitcoin's current penetration.

[biskyb33]

Another opinion on the roadmap: We need to spend more time thinking about adoption as a payment platform.  Right now we have an indeterminate timeline to the fully featured v3 release (which is mostly focused on technology), plus some hand-waving at ATMs and PoS.  That statement is a bit brusque but it's also true.

No one should care about either ATM or PoS, and frankly no one on the XC team should be spending hardly any time or energy on it.  What fraction of BTC usage is via either of those two channels?  Less than 1%?  The reason for that is because the idea that you can offer a solution remotely competitive with WF or Visa or whatever is a joke.  What would be far more valuable is discussions about areas we can add value with e.g. the OpenBazaar guys, or various internet payment platforms that have real transaction volume and currently only offer BTC / LTC / etc.  Are those discussions occurring?  Are we waiting to have those discussions until we reach certain technology milestones?  Whats the plan?

Basically, Dan is a smart guy, but so are plenty of others devs working on anon, and it's not reasonable to assume that XC technology will be so far superior that it will be adopted over other solutions just because it exists.  And at some point you need actual adoption by non-miners / non-investors or we are just trading among ourselves which is not sustainable.  I guess I'm kind of giving a betamax vs. VHS speech here, but it matters and getting a workable product that people are actually using for payments is not only a massive differentiator against other anon coins, but also at some point a requirement of success.

You've basically summarised our whole outlook. Real-world adoption is the key to XC's success, and this comes down to quality marketing and to effortlessness of use.

At present our main thrust though is to make XC usable at any traditional point of sale system. That's pervasive real-world usability that will outdo Bitcoin's current penetration.

+1 thanks, arlyn. watching you guys operate on this forum for the past weeks, i really don't need a roadmap ...let alone an eta. i'm just happy to ride your shirtails 

[swannsonite]

You've basically summarised our whole outlook. Real-world adoption is the key to XC's success, and this comes down to quality marketing and to effortlessness of use.

At present our main thrust though is to make XC usable at any traditional point of sale system. That's pervasive real-world usability that will outdo Bitcoin's current penetration.

+1 This is good to hear.