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MAJOR PROBLEM
Why are you guys such terrible arguers? Your PR (public relations) campaign has been destroyed by your reactions on forums, twitter, and IRC to various claims made against the coin. Intellectual people do not make personal attacks. The use of ad hominum logical fallacies has never been acceptable in the art of argument. Refute peoples claims with politeness and factual, valid logical arguments. Stop calling people names. In the real world, that shit doesn't fly. If you want real world support, you need to knock that shit off.
Be nice. Its not difficult. Ignore people that piss you off, let the others who are more able to deal with difficult "customers" take care of it.
If I am looking to invest my money in a coin, it doesnt matter how far advanced the technology is, if all i see when i look at forums is "idiot," "retard," "noob," etc,... I would wait for another coin to develop similar technology with a better community. These multi billion dollar corporations do not make their money by insulting people to their face.
Some people are able to read between lines! Doesn't matter. The purpose of language is not to create lines that must be read between in order to interpret the intended message. The purpose of language is to create messages that everyone can understand at first reading. I search the hashtag #cloakcoin on Twitter and half the tweets are insults. Im am not going to take the time to figure out the context of the insults in order to understand the intended messages. The message portrayed at first reading (aka my first and sometimes last impression) are character insults used in an attempt to strengthen an argument. Which is disgraceful in itself to logic. |
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July 28, 2014, 05:27:45 PM |
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Like it or not, the FUD wars that have gone on in this thread probably has scared off a number of serious investors. Immaturity can be overlooked to a certain extent, but it can hold a coin back. I never understood the mindset of going into other threads spreading FUD/Trolling, as quite often it ends up backfiring, hurting both coins.
Anyway... any news at all regarding One Market? Dev provide any screenshots/updates, or anything?
Any plans for a PoSA code review, open source, or more detailed analysis showing it is truly decentralized?
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Lucksee
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July 28, 2014, 05:33:52 PM |
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MAJOR PROBLEM
Why are you guys such terrible arguers? Your PR (public relations) campaign has been destroyed by your reactions on forums, twitter, and IRC to various claims made against the coin. Intellectual people do not make personal attacks. The use of ad hominum logical fallacies has never been acceptable in the art of argument. Refute peoples claims with politeness and factual, valid logical arguments. Stop calling people names. In the real world, that shit doesn't fly. If you want real world support, you need to knock that shit off.
Be nice. Its not difficult. Ignore people that piss you off, let the others who are more able to deal with difficult "customers" take care of it.
If I am looking to invest my money in a coin, it doesnt matter how far advanced the technology is, if all i see when i look at forums is "idiot," "retard," "noob," etc,... I would wait for another coin to develop similar technology with a better community. These multi billion dollar corporations do not make their money by insulting people to their face.
I think it's pretty easy to tell who knows what they're talking about and who doesn't... may be just me, but point is: DYOR and know this... No matter what the environment of crypto is now, it's headed towards a more trustworthy, professional, and "serious business" type experience. The modern world is used to a certain level of maturity when dealing with currency already and crypto is still learning to meet that demand. We're at the dawn of a new currency. People will eventually be dealing with this very seriously and all these trolls, FUDsters, and dummies are just going to be silly distractions compared to the cryptoprofessionals doing real work for real currency and having real, productive discussion. (Just like many people are for BTC, right now.) It's so easy to see: cryptocurrency was born online, within a tiny tiny group of nerds that as a community is still extremely young and extremely marginalized... ....hence the greedy obnoxious children everywhere.... ....there's still time until we reach a happy balance in the cryptocommunity. No reason to panic. Just growing pains. Actually, it just makes me more confident in crypto. I don't have any serious doubts that the crypto community will mature simply because cryptocurrency is such a powerful, disruptive technology. |
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July 28, 2014, 05:38:26 PM |
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MAJOR PROBLEM
Why are you guys such terrible arguers? Your PR (public relations) campaign has been destroyed by your reactions on forums, twitter, and IRC to various claims made against the coin. Intellectual people do not make personal attacks. The use of ad hominum logical fallacies has never been acceptable in the art of argument. Refute peoples claims with politeness and factual, valid logical arguments. Stop calling people names. In the real world, that shit doesn't fly. If you want real world support, you need to knock that shit off.
Be nice. Its not difficult. Ignore people that piss you off, let the others who are more able to deal with difficult "customers" take care of it.
If I am looking to invest my money in a coin, it doesnt matter how far advanced the technology is, if all i see when i look at forums is "idiot," "retard," "noob," etc,... I would wait for another coin to develop similar technology with a better community. These multi billion dollar corporations do not make their money by insulting people to their face.
Some people are able to read between lines! Doesn't matter. The purpose of language is not to create lines that must be read between in order to interpret the intended message. The purpose of language is to create messages that everyone can understand at first reading. I search the hashtag #cloakcoin on Twitter and half the tweets are insults. Im am not going to take the time to figure out the context of the insults in order to understand the intended messages. The message portrayed at first reading (aka my first and sometimes last impression) are character insults used in an attempt to strengthen an argument. Which is disgraceful in itself to logic. If you turn to twitter to find info on an altcoin, your logic in itself makes no sense. Twitter was started as a gossip site... fact... The public believes half the images posted on Facebook with text written on them to be true. Half a million people will share an image from an account named "Bill Gates" that promises them free i-Pods (intended). They get their news and information from social media sites. They get a lot of information from social interactions and do not seek further. |
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July 28, 2014, 05:40:40 PM |
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Take a look at the altcoin list at https://bitcoinwisdom.com/. Only CLOAK (+252%), RBY (+26%) and XMR (+4%) show positive gains for the last 30 days. |
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bangomatic
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July 28, 2014, 05:43:34 PM
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Based on the PoSA public beta (which is mind blowing) and the exciting CIARA news, Cloakcoin should be skyrocketing in price, but it has fallen back some instead. If you think that all the name calling, arguing, and bad sentiment in this thread, twitter, wherever has no negative effects, then you are wrong. I totally get what Wheatclove is saying. There are no regulations in crypto, you are free to do and say what u please...just know and remember that it does reflect on the coin.
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July 28, 2014, 05:44:34 PM |
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MAJOR PROBLEM
Why are you guys such terrible arguers? Your PR (public relations) campaign has been destroyed by your reactions on forums, twitter, and IRC to various claims made against the coin. Intellectual people do not make personal attacks. The use of ad hominum logical fallacies has never been acceptable in the art of argument. Refute peoples claims with politeness and factual, valid logical arguments. Stop calling people names. In the real world, that shit doesn't fly. If you want real world support, you need to knock that shit off.
Be nice. Its not difficult. Ignore people that piss you off, let the others who are more able to deal with difficult "customers" take care of it.
If I am looking to invest my money in a coin, it doesnt matter how far advanced the technology is, if all i see when i look at forums is "idiot," "retard," "noob," etc,... I would wait for another coin to develop similar technology with a better community. These multi billion dollar corporations do not make their money by insulting people to their face.
Some people are able to read between lines! Doesn't matter. The purpose of language is not to create lines that must be read between in order to interpret the intended message. The purpose of language is to create messages that everyone can understand at first reading. I search the hashtag #cloakcoin on Twitter and half the tweets are insults. Im am not going to take the time to figure out the context of the insults in order to understand the intended messages. The message portrayed at first reading (aka my first and sometimes last impression) are character insults used in an attempt to strengthen an argument. Which is disgraceful in itself to logic. Are you claiming that members of our community with substantially sized wallets are attempting to sabotage their own investments? |
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lab rat hoax
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July 28, 2014, 05:45:27 PM |
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I think it's pretty easy to tell who knows what they're talking about and who doesn't... may be just me, but point is: DYOR and know this...
No matter what the environment of crypto is now, it's headed towards a more trustworthy, professional, and "serious business" type experience. The modern world is used to a certain level of maturity when dealing with currency already and crypto is still learning to meet that demand.
We're at the dawn of a new currency. People will eventually be dealing with this very seriously and all these trolls, FUDsters, and dummies are just going to be silly distractions compared to the cryptoprofessionals doing real work for real currency and having real, productive discussion. (Just like many people are for BTC, right now.)
It's so easy to see: cryptocurrency was born online, within a tiny tiny group of nerds that as a community is still extremely young and extremely marginalized...
....hence the greedy obnoxious children everywhere....
....there's still time until we reach a happy balance in the cryptocommunity. No reason to panic. Just growing pains. Actually, it just makes me more confident in crypto.
I don't have any serious doubts that the crypto community will mature simply because cryptocurrency is such a powerful, disruptive technology.
the next step after growing pains is that people grow up ( ok, ok some never do ) and evolution, innovation happen, people vote with their feet, or their mouse in our case. i'm very optimistic about cloak in particular. decentralize ALL of it. love it !
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drizzle2405
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July 28, 2014, 05:47:24 PM |
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Take a look at the altcoin list at https://bitcoinwisdom.com/. Only CLOAK (+252%), RBY (+26%) and XMR (+4%) show positive gains for the last 30 days. Exactly.... Cloak has built a solid base. This is the only altcoin to slowly rise and hold... |
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Bobsurplus
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July 28, 2014, 05:47:28 PM |
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Based on the PoSA public beta (which is mind blowing) and the exciting CIARA news, Cloakcoin should be skyrocketing in price, but it has fallen back some instead. If you think that all the name calling, arguing, and bad sentiment in this thread, twitter, wherever has no negative effects, then you are wrong. I totally get what Wheatclove is saying. There are no regulations in crypto, you are free to do and say what u please...just know and remember that it does reflect on the coin.
Nahh bud, you're wrong. The price for the last week or so has been between 100-113K sat.. Since the last climb to 165 we settled nicely at 130-140. Do you not see the same thing? |
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Wheatclove
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July 28, 2014, 05:50:35 PM |
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Based on the PoSA public beta (which is mind blowing) and the exciting CIARA news, Cloakcoin should be skyrocketing in price, but it has fallen back some instead. If you think that all the name calling, arguing, and bad sentiment in this thread, twitter, wherever has no negative effects, then you are wrong. I totally get what Wheatclove is saying. There are no regulations in crypto, you are free to do and say what u please...just know and remember that it does reflect on the coin.
Nahh bud, you're wrong. The price for the last week or so has been between 100-113K sat.. Since the last climb to 165 we settled nicely at 130-140. Do you not see the same thing? The coin should be double it's current value. Mature people are not going to buy into anything that would make an immature person rich. |
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Lucksee
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July 28, 2014, 05:53:47 PM |
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MAJOR PROBLEM
Why are you guys such terrible arguers? Your PR (public relations) campaign has been destroyed by your reactions on forums, twitter, and IRC to various claims made against the coin. Intellectual people do not make personal attacks. The use of ad hominum logical fallacies has never been acceptable in the art of argument. Refute peoples claims with politeness and factual, valid logical arguments. Stop calling people names. In the real world, that shit doesn't fly. If you want real world support, you need to knock that shit off.
Be nice. Its not difficult. Ignore people that piss you off, let the others who are more able to deal with difficult "customers" take care of it.
If I am looking to invest my money in a coin, it doesnt matter how far advanced the technology is, if all i see when i look at forums is "idiot," "retard," "noob," etc,... I would wait for another coin to develop similar technology with a better community. These multi billion dollar corporations do not make their money by insulting people to their face.
Some people are able to read between lines! Doesn't matter. The purpose of language is not to create lines that must be read between in order to interpret the intended message. The purpose of language is to create messages that everyone can understand at first reading. I search the hashtag #cloakcoin on Twitter and half the tweets are insults. Im am not going to take the time to figure out the context of the insults in order to understand the intended messages. The message portrayed at first reading (aka my first and sometimes last impression) are character insults used in an attempt to strengthen an argument. Which is disgraceful in itself to logic. If you turn to twitter to find info on an altcoin, your logic in itself makes no sense. Twitter was started as a gossip site... fact... The public believes half the images posted on Facebook with text written on them to be true. Half a million people will share an image from an account named "Bill Gates" that promises them free i-Pods (intended). They get their news and information from social media sites. They get a lot of information from social interactions and do not seek further. Those people have no idea what a cryptocurrency is, so it might just be irrelevant. Those people aren't ready. We're looking to compel cryptoinvestors, right now. If you searched for #cloakcoin on twitter, chances are you're a smart person who either is serious investor or has some maturity issues. Regardless, targeting the kind of mass population of zombies that will click and click into ad tunnels for hours and hours is far in the future.... You guys are confusing audiences. It's about serious cryptoinvestors and the obnoxious children. |
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Bobsurplus
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July 28, 2014, 05:54:29 PM |
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Based on the PoSA public beta (which is mind blowing) and the exciting CIARA news, Cloakcoin should be skyrocketing in price, but it has fallen back some instead. If you think that all the name calling, arguing, and bad sentiment in this thread, twitter, wherever has no negative effects, then you are wrong. I totally get what Wheatclove is saying. There are no regulations in crypto, you are free to do and say what u please...just know and remember that it does reflect on the coin.
Nahh bud, you're wrong. The price for the last week or so has been between 100-113K sat.. Since the last climb to 165 we settled nicely at 130-140. Do you not see the same thing? The coin should be double it's current value. Mature people are not going to buy into anything that would make an immature person rich. Ok, I guess I gotta listen to you. You've been here for so long your word is gold! |
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July 28, 2014, 05:54:53 PM |
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I want to the first person on the 500. page  |
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July 28, 2014, 05:55:37 PM |
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I want to the first person on the 500. page |
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July 28, 2014, 05:56:16 PM |
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Based on the PoSA public beta (which is mind blowing) and the exciting CIARA news, Cloakcoin should be skyrocketing in price, but it has fallen back some instead. If you think that all the name calling, arguing, and bad sentiment in this thread, twitter, wherever has no negative effects, then you are wrong. I totally get what Wheatclove is saying. There are no regulations in crypto, you are free to do and say what u please...just know and remember that it does reflect on the coin. Investors are probably coming here today to see what cloakcoin offers and now all they are greeted with is BS.  Agreed. I still have a small amount of this, wondered why the price is rather stagnant (or declining), and figured I'd check out the thread to see some news ... something. Instead I see giant memes, FUD, and people arguing about... arguing. I didn't plan to invest more into this, but if I did, why in the world would I based on anything I am seeing in this forum? A little mature discussion would be nice. Perhaps some updated news on PoSA or One Market news... something. |
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July 28, 2014, 05:56:20 PM |
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I want to the first person on the 500. page Am I a troll?  |
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bangomatic
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July 28, 2014, 05:57:34 PM |
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Based on the PoSA public beta (which is mind blowing) and the exciting CIARA news, Cloakcoin should be skyrocketing in price, but it has fallen back some instead. If you think that all the name calling, arguing, and bad sentiment in this thread, twitter, wherever has no negative effects, then you are wrong. I totally get what Wheatclove is saying. There are no regulations in crypto, you are free to do and say what u please...just know and remember that it does reflect on the coin.
Nahh bud, you're wrong. The price for the last week or so has been between 100-113K sat.. Since the last climb to 165 we settled nicely at 130-140. Do you not see the same thing? It could be way higher without all the BS. |
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July 28, 2014, 05:57:51 PM |
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I want to the first person on the 500. page |
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Bobsurplus
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July 28, 2014, 05:58:36 PM |
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Based on the PoSA public beta (which is mind blowing) and the exciting CIARA news, Cloakcoin should be skyrocketing in price, but it has fallen back some instead. If you think that all the name calling, arguing, and bad sentiment in this thread, twitter, wherever has no negative effects, then you are wrong. I totally get what Wheatclove is saying. There are no regulations in crypto, you are free to do and say what u please...just know and remember that it does reflect on the coin. Investors are probably coming here today to see what cloakcoin offers and now all they are greeted with is BS. Agreed. I still have a small amount of this, wondered why the price is rather stagnant (or declining), and figured I'd check out the thread to see some news ... something. Instead I see giant memes, FUD, and people arguing about... arguing. I didn't plan to invest more into this, but if I did, why in the world would I based on anything I am seeing in this forum? A little mature discussion would be nice. Perhaps some updated news on PoSA or One Market news... something. Updated news on PoSA has been released over the last few days. PoSA is now in public beta testing and the next build will be killer. |
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