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June 14, 2014, 09:59:29 PM
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Here is the updated specs after hard fork.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=618552.msg7273647#msg7273647

Here is the dev stating that it's now 1/3 of the old plan.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=618552.msg7266883#msg7266883

To me, it's just them forgetting to change it. Code checked out by multiple people now.

@busoni, you should have consulted with the dev first as you obviously didn't even know about the hard fork.

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June 14, 2014, 10:00:30 PM
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the expansion of the Max_Coins variable *could easily be for a setup for a multi-staged plan.
think about it.. what if you wanted to release a coin with clean source then gradually implement a cheat ?
the best way to do it would be to integrate some changes on various updates bit by bit..

start with clean source then make an update with *part of the cheat added.
such as what is pointed out here in this topic.. expanding the max coins variable so its far greater than what is publicly announced..
then what ?
And you may think what good will that do ?
Obfuscation that is what..
Many people compare these source codes by comparing two whole folders of code and any line of code that has been changed will show up highlighted.
So if the change is setup in advance it will NOT show up in the last folder comparison..
it's a tricky and devious method to slip in malicious code and that *could have been what happened here.. i don't know.
Hard to know what coin cloners intentions are around this scene but lets not forget it's riddled with corruption by thieves and scammers.
This fact can not be ignored.. it's the nature of our game.

I was going to look at Honor Coins source code to see if that specific part of the code was copied untouched..
If so it may have simply been an honest mistake in coin cloning lol
If the code base Super coin was cloned from did not have the same value / code on line 100 then i would bet anything the Super coin poster is scamming.

Reality is it does not look good.
And if something does not look good then something does not look good.. it's just how it is.

Another noble public service by the crack PoloniEx team...
Now if they could only do something about the captchas.
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June 14, 2014, 10:03:16 PM
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Here is the updated specs after hard fork.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=618552.msg7273647#msg7273647

Here is the dev stating that it's now 1/3 of the old plan.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=618552.msg7266883#msg7266883

To me, it's just them forgetting to change it. Code checked out by multiple people now.

@busoni, you should have consulted with the dev first as you obviously didn't even know about the hard fork.

aka: the cover up damage control campaign.

you can't say one thing and do another and get caught then make excuses.

what OP said is dead on 100% accurate and it LOOKS bad !

the smoking gun is the coin it was cloned from did not use that large value.. so they can NOT claim it was left over code.
they are caught red handed setting that value that contradicts the official coin specs..

and hey guess what mouthy idiots..

it's his fucking job to go and check what the official coin specs are and verify them in the source code !
more than many exchanges usually do lol

I applaud him ..good job !

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June 14, 2014, 10:03:51 PM
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Let's take a look at some other popular coins on Poloniex:

Silkcoin
Maximum POW supply: ~45 million

Great, let's check the code:

Code:
static const int64_t MAX_MONEY = 2000000000 * COIN;

Uh oh, 2 billion is a lot more than 45 million! Better de-list SC right away!

Cinni
Total Coins: 15,000,000

Hmm...

Code:
static const int64 MAX_MONEY = 100000000 * COIN;

I'm not very good at math but I think 100 million may be slightly more than 15 million.

Strange that you never gave a shit about things like this before?
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June 14, 2014, 10:04:47 PM
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Here is the updated specs after hard fork.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=618552.msg7273647#msg7273647

Here is the dev stating that it's now 1/3 of the old plan.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=618552.msg7266883#msg7266883

To me, it's just them forgetting to change it. Code checked out by multiple people now.

@busoni, you should have consulted with the dev first as you obviously didn't even know about the hard fork.

aka: the cover up damage control campaign.

you can't say one thing and do another and get caught then make excuses.

what OP said is dead on 100% accurate and it LOOKS bad !

the smoking gun is the coin it was cloned from did not use that large value.. so they can NOT claim it was left over code.
they are caught red handed setting that value that contradicts the official coin specs..

and hey guess what mouthy idiots..

it's his fucking job to go and check what the official coin specs are and verify them in the source code !
more than many exchanges usually do lol

I applaud him ..good job !
Wow, a rational post. Thank you.
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June 14, 2014, 10:05:08 PM
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thanks for the warning busoni and its your job to check coins before adding, Great work.

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June 14, 2014, 10:05:15 PM
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Let's take a look at some other popular coins on Poloniex:

Silkcoin
Maximum POW supply: ~45 million

Great, let's check the code:

Code:
static const int64_t MAX_MONEY = 2000000000 * COIN;

Uh oh, 2 billion is a lot more than 45 million! Better de-list SC right away!

Cinni
Total Coins: 15,000,000

Hmm...

Code:
static const int64 MAX_MONEY = 100000000 * COIN;

I'm not very good at math but I think 100 million may be slightly more than 15 million.

Strange that you never gave a shit about things like this before?

BAM!
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June 14, 2014, 10:08:59 PM
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Let's take a look at some other popular coins on Poloniex:

Silkcoin
Maximum POW supply: ~45 million

Great, let's check the code:

Code:
static const int64_t MAX_MONEY = 2000000000 * COIN;

Uh oh, 2 billion is a lot more than 45 million! Better de-list SC right away!

Cinni
Total Coins: 15,000,000

Hmm...

Code:
static const int64 MAX_MONEY = 100000000 * COIN;

I'm not very good at math but I think 100 million may be slightly more than 15 million.

Strange that you never gave a shit about things like this before?

BAM!

Silkcoin and CINNI are scams !!

EDIT : soory, i can't resist
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June 14, 2014, 10:10:24 PM
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TBH, this guy doesn't help your cause.
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June 14, 2014, 10:10:28 PM
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diversion tactics won't work guys  Roll Eyes

classic.. YOU get caught so you attempt to discredit the guy that caught you.
Oh internet your so creative ahahha
Do you guys think you just invented the cover up technique or something ?

yeah.. bam.... puuuuuhleeeeze lol

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June 14, 2014, 10:10:55 PM
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lol
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June 14, 2014, 10:12:32 PM
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diversion tactics won't work guys  Roll Eyes

classic.. YOU get caught so you attempt to discredit the guy that caught you.
Oh internet your so creative ahahha
Do you guys think you just invented the cover up technique or something ?

yeah.. bam.... puuuuuhleeeeze lol

I'm not affiliated with SUPER in any way and have never bought or mined SUPER, I just thought people should know how completely and utterly wrong Poloniex is here.
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June 14, 2014, 10:14:47 PM
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Well Done,
I'm loving seeing Ethic,s over profits Smiley
Poloniex just Raised the bar again.
 Grin Grin Grin Grin

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June 14, 2014, 10:16:20 PM
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Grab the popcorn, the fun is just starting. lol

Let's take a look at some other popular coins on Poloniex:

Silkcoin
Maximum POW supply: ~45 million

Great, let's check the code:

Code:
static const int64_t MAX_MONEY = 2000000000 * COIN;

Uh oh, 2 billion is a lot more than 45 million! Better de-list SC right away!

Cinni
Total Coins: 15,000,000

Hmm...

Code:
static const int64 MAX_MONEY = 100000000 * COIN;

I'm not very good at math but I think 100 million may be slightly more than 15 million.

Strange that you never gave a shit about things like this before?

Ahahahahahahahha

oke, this changes things i would say. . 

?? care to comment busoni
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June 14, 2014, 10:16:57 PM
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Let's take a look at some other popular coins on Poloniex:

Silkcoin
Maximum POW supply: ~45 million

Great, let's check the code:

Code:
static const int64_t MAX_MONEY = 2000000000 * COIN;

Uh oh, 2 billion is a lot more than 45 million! Better de-list SC right away!

Cinni
Total Coins: 15,000,000

Hmm...

Code:
static const int64 MAX_MONEY = 100000000 * COIN;

I'm not very good at math but I think 100 million may be slightly more than 15 million.

Strange that you never gave a shit about things like this before?

Seems poloniex will be busy going through every coin they have listed now as they'll need to de-list a LOT.

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June 14, 2014, 10:18:17 PM
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Welp I'm done with poloniex

Bittrex and mintpal all the way for now on
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June 14, 2014, 10:18:53 PM
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The code in the bitcoinrpc.cpp busoni posted

Line 99

Code:
if (dAmount <= 0.0 || dAmount > 150000000.0) 	99	if (dAmount <= 0.0 || dAmount > MAX_MONEY)

Why change MAX_MONEY and hardcode when
it's set in the main.h file?

https://github.com/supercoinproject/supercoin/blob/master/src/main.h#L38




Did I say I'm not listing it because it was cloned?

jakiman said that the value may have been leftover from the old SUPER coin. I am saying that is not very likely, because this coin was cloned from Honorcoin, not the old SUPER coin. See bitcoinrpc.cpp of Honorcoin and (new) SuperCoin side by side: http://www.diffchecker.com/j8xl540o



Let's take a look at some other popular coins on Poloniex:

Silkcoin
Maximum POW supply: ~45 million

Great, let's check the code:

Code:
static const int64_t MAX_MONEY = 2000000000 * COIN;

Uh oh, 2 billion is a lot more than 45 million! Better de-list SC right away!

Cinni
Total Coins: 15,000,000

Hmm...

Code:
static const int64 MAX_MONEY = 100000000 * COIN;

I'm not very good at math but I think 100 million may be slightly more than 15 million.

Strange that you never gave a shit about things like this before?

BAM!
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June 14, 2014, 10:19:25 PM
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Here is the updated specs after hard fork.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=618552.msg7273647#msg7273647

Here is the dev stating that it's now 1/3 of the old plan.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=618552.msg7266883#msg7266883

To me, it's just them forgetting to change it. Code checked out by multiple people now.

@busoni, you should have consulted with the dev first as you obviously didn't even know about the hard fork.

Can you explain how he can claim something while the running code tells different ?
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June 14, 2014, 10:21:09 PM
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it seems there are some misunderstanding on Supercoin total amount, the old total amount is like you said,

but Supercoin do make a hard fork several days ago.


please check this:

Here is the updated specs after the recent hard fork.
Which obviously many newcomers don't know about.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=618552.msg7273647#msg7273647

Here is the dev stating that it's now 1/3 of the old plan. It was 150 mil before Now 50 mil total.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=618552.msg7266883#msg7266883

To me, it's just them forgetting to change it. Code checked out by multiple people now. There are no extra coins.

busoni should have consulted with the dev first as he didn't even know about the hard fork.

thank you very much busoni, i like Poloniex, and i do want supercoin be lised in Poloniex.

Please think this again.

much appreciated!
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June 14, 2014, 10:22:05 PM
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meanwile... at poloniex

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