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July 16, 2014, 09:13:27 AM |
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Maybe I misinterpreted; I assumed you were saying investing in your sites was somehow safer despite PRC having the same max profit (as a %) and house edge. I think you are mistaken with the 12.5 BTC figure though. I don't believe dogecoin was worth much over 55 satoshis around the time of close, which at 12.5m profit was ~7 BTC.
My point was only that investing in Doge-Dice was about as "risky" as investing in PRCdice. But yes, risk is definitely subjective.
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July 16, 2014, 09:46:37 AM |
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Maybe I misinterpreted; I assumed you were saying investing in your sites was somehow safer despite PRC having the same max profit (as a %) and house edge. I think you are mistaken with the 12.5 BTC figure though. I don't believe dogecoin was worth much over 55 satoshis around the time of close, which at 12.5m profit was ~7 BTC.
My point was only that investing in Doge-Dice was about as "risky" as investing in PRCdice. But yes, risk is definitely subjective.
I was just saying that a site which regularly gets bets exercising its max profit is going to give a better return than sites that don't. JD was easier for me to trust than other sites because I knew the site operator wasn't going to abscond. That's all.
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July 16, 2014, 10:56:22 AM |
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Most people don't have the novelty of running multi-million dollar gambling institutions themselves. Instead, they determine the risks as best as they can and gamble/invest their BTC in the hands of somebody else. I invested in JD because I believed you had more to gain by keeping the site running, and that's the same reason I invest in PRC. Seems like a lot of moot points dooglus.
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July 16, 2014, 08:28:33 PM |
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I'll ask again, all withdraws still manual? Are withdraws still manual? I never keep a balance on any site.
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July 17, 2014, 09:50:47 AM |
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I'll ask again, all withdraws still manual? Are withdraws still manual? I never keep a balance on any site.
I think Dean planned to make at least small withdrawals instant. Not sure where the threshold is for what amount of BTC qualifies as small, though ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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July 17, 2014, 10:04:57 AM |
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I'll ask again, all withdraws still manual? Are withdraws still manual? I never keep a balance on any site.
I think Dean planned to make at least small withdrawals instant. Not sure where the threshold is for what amount of BTC qualifies as small, though ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I hate it when the withdraw are so slow , it make people lose thier money too .
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July 17, 2014, 10:11:29 AM |
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How does it make people lose their money?
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July 17, 2014, 10:11:45 AM |
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I hate it when the withdraw are so slow , it make people lose thier money too .
It is better to have automatic instant withdrawal, but how do manual withdrawals make people lose their money? EDIT: wayshegoes asked the same question 16 seconds before me lol. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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July 17, 2014, 10:15:01 AM |
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Maybe because they can't wait a few hours and end up losing it gambling? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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July 17, 2014, 10:24:28 AM |
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Maybe because they can't wait a few hours and end up losing it gambling? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Yes thats the answer and its not few hours as PRC only process 2 withdraw perday if i wast wrong and dean cant be online 24hour just to process withdraw .
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Lieji
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July 17, 2014, 10:26:06 AM |
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Maybe because they can't wait a few hours and end up losing it gambling? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Yes thats the answer and its not few hours as PRC only process 2 withdraw perday if i wast wrong and dean cant be online 24hour just to process withdraw . If you don't trust the site, you shouldn't deposit and play there in the beginning. If you trust the site, it shouldn't be a big problem waiting for half a day to get your withdrawals IMO. (though ofc it is better to receive it in seconds)
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Sniar
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July 17, 2014, 10:28:38 AM |
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Maybe because they can't wait a few hours and end up losing it gambling? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Yes thats the answer and its not few hours as PRC only process 2 withdraw perday if i wast wrong and dean cant be online 24hour just to process withdraw . If you don't trust the site, you shouldn't deposit and play there in the beginning. If you trust the site, it shouldn't be a big problem waiting for half a day to get your withdrawals IMO. (though ofc it is better to receive it in seconds) Trusting and not trusting is not the point , Some gambler like me i will gamble everything in my account and when big win i want them in my wallet instantly so i wont lose my winning as i say " gambler "
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Lieji
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July 17, 2014, 10:41:45 AM |
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Maybe because they can't wait a few hours and end up losing it gambling? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Yes thats the answer and its not few hours as PRC only process 2 withdraw perday if i wast wrong and dean cant be online 24hour just to process withdraw . If you don't trust the site, you shouldn't deposit and play there in the beginning. If you trust the site, it shouldn't be a big problem waiting for half a day to get your withdrawals IMO. (though ofc it is better to receive it in seconds) Trusting and not trusting is not the point , Some gambler like me i will gamble everything in my account and when big win i want them in my wallet instantly so i wont lose my winning as i say " gambler " I see. It seems my addiction is not as bad as yours lol just kidding. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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July 17, 2014, 11:02:10 AM |
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Maybe because they can't wait a few hours and end up losing it gambling? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Yes thats the answer and its not few hours as PRC only process 2 withdraw perday if i wast wrong and dean cant be online 24hour just to process withdraw . If you don't trust the site, you shouldn't deposit and play there in the beginning. If you trust the site, it shouldn't be a big problem waiting for half a day to get your withdrawals IMO. (though ofc it is better to receive it in seconds) Trusting and not trusting is not the point , Some gambler like me i will gamble everything in my account and when big win i want them in my wallet instantly so i wont lose my winning as i say " gambler " I see. It seems my addiction is not as bad as yours lol just kidding. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) Yep you are sure right , a lot gambler is addicted so it will make they lose all thier money with this situation
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July 17, 2014, 11:54:56 AM |
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Just message Dean in chat and he will process withdrawals fast. If you win big and youre afraid you're going to lose it, go for a walk and be happy you won big!
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July 17, 2014, 12:42:17 PM |
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Instant withdrawals are coming. Been busy with a lot of other things the past few weeks. I actually process the withdrawals many times throughout the day and most peoples are "instant". I only say wait 12 hours in case I'm sleeping or am tied up with something else. Very rarely do people wait that long. Even if I sleep it's max like 7-8 hours. Coming very soon though ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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July 17, 2014, 12:47:34 PM |
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Instant withdrawals are coming. Been busy with a lot of other things the past few weeks. I actually process the withdrawals many times throughout the day and most peoples are "instant". I only say wait 12 hours in case I'm sleeping or am tied up with something else. Very rarely do people wait that long. Even if I sleep it's max like 7-8 hours. Coming very soon though ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) this is what we've been waiting for!! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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July 18, 2014, 02:17:11 AM |
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He has already said its final decission, he has decided what he want to do with it. If you not got anything new to say, its best to shut up, becauce we can read you and uvwvj earlier posts here, and we all know what your opinions is allready. Not any point to repeat ourself. And if you counted cards at a casino and got away with 4% of casino bankroll it would be nice for you. That is a generous casnio.
Casinos don't let you take 4% of their bankroll by counting cards. They closely monitor their games, and ask you to stop playing long before you win anything significant. They don't let you flat-bet and win on an untested game for 15 hours before stopping you. In response to: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=663326.msg7815363#msg7815363_________________________________ I reviewed this situation and thought about it an extensive amount. I have no ill feelings towards Dean but strongly agree with Dooglus and his opinion regarding this. The situation reminded me a bit of Phil Ivey's edge sorting (There are a few key differences though) Read here: http://regressing.deadspin.com/how-phil-ivey-beat-or-maybe-cheated-a-casino-for-mill-1562993963 ^ In this situation Ivey should be paid and Borgata should sue the card company, however Borgata has a massive legal team and endless terms & conditions. With regards to PRC, the game was played as intended, as described in the verification section and some compensation is due. I thought about what I'd do, personally If I was in Dean's shoes I'd refund Sjess in full, if it was a massive amount though I'd probably consider some sort of partial settlement. Given that your site is just starting off and Sjess arguably should have reported this error rather than exploit it I recommend you provide Sjess a half refund at minimum. In the end it is mainly PRC's fault for not properly testing their website I recommend they reach out to Sjess to do some pentesting rather than punish him. Regardless I wish you luck with the site, could someday fill J-D's shoes.
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July 18, 2014, 05:05:24 AM |
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Just message Dean in chat and he will process withdrawals fast. If you win big and youre afraid you're going to lose it, go for a walk and be happy you won big!
I don think addicted gambler will stop after won big and not able to withdraw .
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July 18, 2014, 05:25:20 AM Last edit: July 19, 2014, 05:14:27 PM by dooglus |
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How does it make people lose their money?
Some people just can't help themselves. kingofsports (on coinroll) and LiKaShing (on JD) are two examples that spring to min ed of people who won big, tried to withdraw, couldn't because the hot wallet had insufficient coins, and ended up losing their winnings as a result.
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