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October 10, 2014, 11:44:29 AM |
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Hey!!!! Leave Spreadcoin alone!! That poor little coin has a tiny community and isn't even on any exchanges yet which I've loved, not to mention it's been fun just CPU mining it with just the wallet. lol
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BTC: 1F8yJqgjeFyX1SX6KJmqYtHiHXJA89ENNT LTC: LYAEPQeDDM7Y4jbUH2AwhBmkzThAGecNBV DOGE: DSUsCCdt98PcNgUkFHLDFdQXmPrQBEqXu9
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October 10, 2014, 11:44:47 AM |
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STEALTHCOIN | XST | stealthcoin.com BLOCKNET : THE INTERNET OF BLOCKCHAINS https://blocknet.co/ | A DECENTRALISED EXCHANGE THAT IS 100% TRUSTLESS.
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October 10, 2014, 11:46:16 AM |
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I havent followed XST for a while now. What is happening currently, why is the price at 5K ?
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October 10, 2014, 11:48:28 AM |
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Hey!!!! Leave Spreadcoin alone!! That poor little coin has a tiny community and isn't even on any exchanges yet which I've loved, not to mention it's been fun just CPU mining it with just the wallet. lol I was being sarcastic...
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October 10, 2014, 11:49:57 AM |
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Guys, calm down and think for yourselves.
This is coming from the inside of the bob's group: Hondo was on bob's payroll the whole time. Both of them are gone from this thread and have abandoned the coin. If you do not trust me just study the most recent scam bob pulled out - CLOAK - the devs were working for him: he admitted this.
Do yourselves a favour and get the hell out of because it will go down to 1 K satoshi in a few days. You were taken for a ride by bob the scammer. Face it and cut your loses. Many people were in your shoes, face the reality.
Jimmy Zed
Before addressing the criticisms raised in this thread, I would like to express my sincere appreciation for these criticisms. Although some believe the manner in which they have been introduced may not be optimal to promote civil discourse, they are valuable criticisms nevertheless, and help to strengthen crypto-currencies in general. It is far better to address weaknesses in crypto systems during implementation than it is to address attacks after deployment.
Chandran signatures [1] make use of a common reference string. The common reference string generator (CRSGen) is a necessity for a model that does not require a random oracle, as described in [1]. CRSGen produces a string that is used as an input to a key generation function. The key generation function produces the user's public-private key pair. This key pair has specific properties in that it is a member of a particular mathematical group. In principle, key generation can be replaced by a cryptographic one-way function if the random oracle assumption is introduced.
Admittedly a more difficult issue to address is one of "unlinkability/untraceability", which boils down to the potential for a double spend. In short, Chandran signatures require the generation of a secret random parameter, g, that serves as an input to a "commitment" to a specific key in the key ring. This commitment basically identifies the public key from which the money is spent. The problem is that any number of g can be produced, creating the potential for any number of commitments to the specific public key.
In reality, this same issue exists with CryptoNote ring signatures except that the CryptoNote system incorporates a key image, I, into signing and verification, such that I can only ever be used once. A similar approach can be taken with Chandran signatures. As presented in [1], a key image I can be incorporated into Step 3 of signing and appended to the final signature. In addition to other parameters, Step 3 commits to the public keys of a subset of the ring. Just as with CryptoNote ring signatures, such a modification would commit to the key image and prevent its use for double-spends.
[1] Chandran N., et al. Ring Signatures of Sub-linear Size Without Random Oracles. ICALP 2007, LNCS 4596, pp. 423–434, 2007.
-- Hondo
But Hondo just posted in the thread quashing all questions. Jimmy Zed: "Think for yourselves", lol. He should have at least read a few pages back before posting such nonsense.
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BTCwriter
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October 10, 2014, 11:55:40 AM |
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October 10, 2014, 11:58:33 AM |
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LongAndShort, How much is your troll salary? Do you have contract with your employer?
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LongAndShort
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October 10, 2014, 12:00:48 PM |
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LongAndShort, How much is your troll salary? Do you have contract with your employer?
just keep it up you might one day learn something..prolly when you have lost everything and dragged down everyone around with it! just keep being ignorant if thats what helps you sleep! but here in reality the inovation does not progress untill your minds are in it for the right reasons! the proof is staring you in the face yet your deny it..thats ridiculous right? because as an outsider you would be concerned and just as baffled by this behavior that you are all demonstrating!
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October 10, 2014, 12:02:16 PM |
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LongAndShort, How much is your troll salary? Do you have contract with your employer?
just keep it up you might one day learn something..prolly when you have lost everything and dragged down everyone around with it! just keep being ignorant if thats what helps you sleep! You didn't answer the questions! Who payed you?
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October 10, 2014, 12:04:06 PM |
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LongAndShort, How much is your troll salary? Do you have contract with your employer?
just keep it up you might one day learn something..prolly when you have lost everything and dragged down everyone around with it! just keep being ignorant if thats what helps you sleep! You didn't answer the questions! Who payed you? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.chzbgr.com%2FmaxW500%2F2539888384%2Fh55100209%2F&t=665&c=lMrZKuhX7iKtoA)
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October 10, 2014, 12:05:25 PM |
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Before addressing the criticisms raised in this thread, I would like to express my sincere appreciation for these criticisms. Although some believe the manner in which they have been introduced may not be optimal to promote civil discourse, they are valuable criticisms nevertheless, and help to strengthen crypto-currencies in general. It is far better to address weaknesses in crypto systems during implementation than it is to address attacks after deployment.
Chandran signatures [1] make use of a common reference string. The common reference string generator (CRSGen) is a necessity for a model that does not require a random oracle, as described in [1]. CRSGen produces a string that is used as an input to a key generation function. The key generation function produces the user's public-private key pair. This key pair has specific properties in that it is a member of a particular mathematical group. In principle, key generation can be replaced by a cryptographic one-way function if the random oracle assumption is introduced.
Admittedly a more difficult issue to address is one of "unlinkability/untraceability", which boils down to the potential for a double spend. In short, Chandran signatures require the generation of a secret random parameter, g, that serves as an input to a "commitment" to a specific key in the key ring. This commitment basically identifies the public key from which the money is spent. The problem is that any number of g can be produced, creating the potential for any number of commitments to the specific public key.
In reality, this same issue exists with CryptoNote ring signatures except that the CryptoNote system incorporates a key image, I, into signing and verification, such that I can only ever be used once. A similar approach can be taken with Chandran signatures. As presented in [1], a key image I can be incorporated into Step 3 of signing and appended to the final signature. In addition to other parameters, Step 3 commits to the public keys of a subset of the ring. Just as with CryptoNote ring signatures, such a modification would commit to the key image and prevent its use for double-spends.
[1] Chandran N., et al. Ring Signatures of Sub-linear Size Without Random Oracles. ICALP 2007, LNCS 4596, pp. 423–434, 2007.
-- Hondo
Thanks Hondo! And also thanks to Pookie and Longandshort. 50% of my buy orders are filled!
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October 10, 2014, 12:05:36 PM |
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October 10, 2014, 12:05:41 PM |
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LongAndShort, How much is your troll salary? Do you have contract with your employer?
just keep it up you might one day learn something..prolly when you have lost everything and dragged down everyone around with it! just keep being ignorant if thats what helps you sleep! You didn't answer the questions! Who payed you? Paid to do what put up with your flat out denials and attacks? believe it or not im doing this for many reason one of many is that this standard lifts i've already contributed 5x as much as you in the time i've spent here and you see it as threatening which is narrow minded in itself! i may not like you much but i care if you get hurt here because it is going to effect the entire anon scene you watch you will see! have i been wrong yet? nope!
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October 10, 2014, 12:07:54 PM |
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Before addressing the criticisms raised in this thread, I would like to express my sincere appreciation for these criticisms. Although some believe the manner in which they have been introduced may not be optimal to promote civil discourse, they are valuable criticisms nevertheless, and help to strengthen crypto-currencies in general. It is far better to address weaknesses in crypto systems during implementation than it is to address attacks after deployment.
Chandran signatures [1] make use of a common reference string. The common reference string generator (CRSGen) is a necessity for a model that does not require a random oracle, as described in [1]. CRSGen produces a string that is used as an input to a key generation function. The key generation function produces the user's public-private key pair. This key pair has specific properties in that it is a member of a particular mathematical group. In principle, key generation can be replaced by a cryptographic one-way function if the random oracle assumption is introduced.
Admittedly a more difficult issue to address is one of "unlinkability/untraceability", which boils down to the potential for a double spend. In short, Chandran signatures require the generation of a secret random parameter, g, that serves as an input to a "commitment" to a specific key in the key ring. This commitment basically identifies the public key from which the money is spent. The problem is that any number of g can be produced, creating the potential for any number of commitments to the specific public key.
In reality, this same issue exists with CryptoNote ring signatures except that the CryptoNote system incorporates a key image, I, into signing and verification, such that I can only ever be used once. A similar approach can be taken with Chandran signatures. As presented in [1], a key image I can be incorporated into Step 3 of signing and appended to the final signature. In addition to other parameters, Step 3 commits to the public keys of a subset of the ring. Just as with CryptoNote ring signatures, such a modification would commit to the key image and prevent its use for double-spends.
[1] Chandran N., et al. Ring Signatures of Sub-linear Size Without Random Oracles. ICALP 2007, LNCS 4596, pp. 423–434, 2007.
-- Hondo
Thanks Hondo! not really sinking in is it
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October 10, 2014, 12:08:38 PM |
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Guys, calm down and think for yourselves.
This is coming from the inside of the bob's group: Hondo was on bob's payroll the whole time. Both of them are gone from this thread and have abandoned the coin. If you do not trust me just study the most recent scam bob pulled out - CLOAK - the devs were working for him: he admitted this.
Do yourselves a favour and get the hell out of because it will go down to 1 K satoshi in a few days. You were taken for a ride by bob the scammer. Face it and cut your loses. Many people were in your shoes, face the reality.
Jimmy Zed Soooo.. reading a couple posts from you I thought you might be for real. But here you say Hondo is gone. And yet he just posted in the thread a short time ago. And you also say the Cloak devs were working for Bob. And yet Bob posted some PMs where a dev basically told him no to what he wanted and Bob also said he approached the Cloak devs 3 times and each time they rubuked him. In fact, he posted that stuff in this thread. So hey. Do you have anything truthful to say? They unleashed a war against this community and against the coin and the devs. They work as a team 24/7. Just follow their posts. They have a precise target and purpose. I did pay attention to them until I realized that this is an orchestrated attack. +1000 Beware and ignore the people who fud here they want to panic investor to dump and they can grab more at lowest value and stack more. Because nothing is stopping stealthcoin to get at 1 mil sats or more and they know it...
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October 10, 2014, 12:10:54 PM |
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Guys, calm down and think for yourselves.
This is coming from the inside of the bob's group: Hondo was on bob's payroll the whole time. Both of them are gone from this thread and have abandoned the coin. If you do not trust me just study the most recent scam bob pulled out - CLOAK - the devs were working for him: he admitted this.
Do yourselves a favour and get the hell out of because it will go down to 1 K satoshi in a few days. You were taken for a ride by bob the scammer. Face it and cut your loses. Many people were in your shoes, face the reality.
Jimmy Zed
No fear the last post by stealth explaining Chandran signatures, I sent to another DEV, and cryptonote Dev. He is going to get back to me with just how feasible this solution is. Then we can ignore these guys for good.
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October 10, 2014, 12:11:40 PM |
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i care if you get hurt Don't lie to me!!! Who is your employer?!
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October 10, 2014, 12:11:59 PM |
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Who the hell dumped this one? God damn it doesn't matter what the coin is these fuckheads are behind the scenes making money off us.
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October 10, 2014, 12:14:26 PM |
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i care if you get hurt Don't lie to me!!! Who is your employer?! heheh i cant believe anyone in crypto would be so low as to employ him can you ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) ? it is a far question though who does employ you? or you just doing this for your concern of the xst community ? which i very much doubt - which leads on to are you doing just to stack? these are the only 3 possibilities that i can see
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