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[DarkDays]

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Thank you for (finally) responding to me.  But I don't understand you when you talk in riddles and nonsense (which amusingly is exactly like Betcoin support does).  Your TOS says that you are allowed to skim 1% of player's RB, yes, however ungod showed that you were skimming 3%.  That's 3x more! 

My question is: you are going to refund the money that you are skimming from the rest of your players?  Will you open your books up to an audit?

[TwitchySeal]

Recap:

Xiao got busted skimming a bit off the top every week so he added this to his terms.

       *There may be a +/- ~1% difference in rakeback.  However this asterisk will be gone once everything is automated.

Very Betcoinish way of handling things.

[DarkDays]

Recap:

Xiao got busted skimming a bit off the top every week so he added this to his terms.

       *There may be a +/- ~1% difference in rakeback.  However this asterisk will be gone once everything is automated.

Very Betcoinish way of handling things.

That's a good point.  Here's a snapshot of the OP a month ago...no mention of the "I'm allowed to steal from you" provision:

http://web.archive.org/web/20160201085156/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=683727.0

[Xiaoxiao]

Recap:

Xiao got busted skimming a bit off the top every week so he added this to his terms.

       *There may be a +/- ~1% difference in rakeback.  However this asterisk will be gone once everything is automated.

Very Betcoinish way of handling things.

And 8 months ago I was able to offer 50% rakeback to everyone.  Things change Twitchy.  This isn't set in stone.  At first when this started I was only able to offer 25%.  However I can say that this current % will be around for the long haul.  Betcoin offers really good % for affiliates.

Darkdays- Ungod had to manually add up his WPN fees in USD by going through his hand history.  You don't think that might account for just 1%?  

You're obviously a losing disgruntled poker player or one of the players that's been long banned on Betcoin for creating HUNDREDS of new accounts and/or cheating.  Or you were one of my former players that has been trying to cheat the system.  The reason you post here is because you're trying to bulk up your posts and sell your account one day.  

And yeah I'm going to hand over my Betcoin account for someone like you to inspect or anyone for that matter, with the balance of my player's rakeback funds inside      

At any rate 450+ players on this service and none have complained besides the Betcoin trolls.  This will be my last response to you DarkDays/CryptoSmoker/Twitchy.  

[DarkDays]

Darkdays- Ungod had to manually add up his WPN fees in USD by going through his hand history.  You don't think that might account for just 1%?  

You're obviously a losing disgruntled poker player or one of the players that's been long banned on Betcoin for creating HUNDREDS of new accounts and/or cheating.  Or you were one of my former players that has been trying to cheat the system.  The reason you post here is because you're trying to bulk up your posts and sell your account one day.  

And yeah I'm going to hand over my Betcoin account for someone like you to inspect or anyone for that matter, with the balance of my player's rakeback funds inside      

At any rate 450+ players on this service and none have complained besides the Betcoin trollers.  This will be my last response to you DarkDays/CryptoSmoker/Twitchy.  

That's grasping at straws.  What happened to "please no personal attacks"?  How would you feel if I called you a thieving, scummy, brand new affiliate who is in over his head and can't add up how much money to send to people so he just under estimates and steals from them?  I don't think you'd like that very much no sir.

I'm a winning player whose only ever had one account who has you as an affiliate.  I don't go public with my name because I know how you and the other Betcoin employees like to doxx people and ban them from the site for made up reasons.  This is done to intimidate people from going public with their problems.  That's why people don't come forward.  Because you and other Betcoin employees operate using fear and intimidation in order to continue stealing from people.

Why won't you answer the very simple question:  are you going to refund the players who you've been skimming money from for the past year+?  You've obviously been doing it.  Ungod audited his account and found you taking 3%, and you settled with him on the condition that he stops publicly commenting on it.  It makes sense that you've been similarly stealing from your other "450+" players. 

IF you insist that you haven't been skimming from your "450+" players, will you let a neutral 3rd party (why would you ever think I would want to do that much work?) audit your records to ensure that that is accurate? 

[ungod]

For the record, I don't have specific reason to believe that our issue necessarily translated to an everybody issue. I'd be glad to help you determine correct RB amounts if you feel personally shorted, or are speaking on behalf of someone.

[Xiaoxiao]

Darkdays- Ungod had to manually add up his WPN fees in USD by going through his hand history.  You don't think that might account for just 1%?  

You're obviously a losing disgruntled poker player or one of the players that's been long banned on Betcoin for creating HUNDREDS of new accounts and/or cheating.  Or you were one of my former players that has been trying to cheat the system.  The reason you post here is because you're trying to bulk up your posts and sell your account one day.  

And yeah I'm going to hand over my Betcoin account for someone like you to inspect or anyone for that matter, with the balance of my player's rakeback funds inside      

At any rate 450+ players on this service and none have complained besides the Betcoin trollers.  This will be my last response to you DarkDays/CryptoSmoker/Twitchy.  

That's grasping at straws.  What happened to "please no personal attacks"?  How would you feel if I called you a thieving, scummy, brand new affiliate who is in over his head and can't add up how much money to send to people so he just under estimates and steals from them?  I don't think you'd like that very much no sir.

I'm a winning player whose only ever had one account who has you as an affiliate.  I don't go public with my name because I know how you and the other Betcoin employees like to doxx people and ban them from the site for made up reasons.  This is done to intimidate people from going public with their problems.  That's why people don't come forward.  Because you and other Betcoin employees operate using fear and intimidation in order to continue stealing from people.

Why won't you answer the very simple question:  are you going to refund the players who you've been skimming money from for the past year+?  You've obviously been doing it.  Ungod audited his account and found you taking 3%, and you settled with him on the condition that he stops publicly commenting on it.  It makes sense that you've been similarly stealing from your other "450+" players. 

IF you insist that you haven't been skimming from your "450+" players, will you let a neutral 3rd party (why would you ever think I would want to do that much work?) audit your records to ensure that that is accurate? 

Lol are you retarded?  Your question is based on a false premise.  Ungod had to MANUALLY add his WPN fees which was in USD, the slightest difference in conversion rate or anything could make it differ by a few % pts.  Nevertheless, the issue I had with Ungod was a security issue which I can't divulge.  But you thinking you know it all decided to assume that I shorted him 3% for that week.  Nothing you say make sense.  If you have me as an affiliate AND you claim that I shorted everyone 3% (which obviously includes yourself) you'd be able to back that up based on the transfers I've sent to you and your VIP point conversions.  Stop lying and trolling.  Nothing of what you say makes sense.  The more you post the more you expose yourself as a troll. 

[DarkDays]

Lol are you retarded?  Your question is based on a false premise.  Ungod had to MANUALLY add his WPN fees which was in USD, the slightest difference in conversion rate or anything could make it differ by a few % pts.  Nevertheless, the issue I had with Ungod was a security issue which I can't divulge.  But you thinking you know it all decided to assume that I shorted him 3% for that week.  Nothing you say make sense.  If you have me as an affiliate AND you claim that I shorted everyone 3% (which obviously includes yourself) you'd be able to back that up based on the transfers I've sent to you and your VIP point conversions.  Stop lying and trolling.  Nothing of what you say makes sense.  The more you post the more you expose yourself as a troll. 

What happened to "no personal attacks"?  Now someone who is asking for help is "retarded"?  That's an odd way to run a business.

Since you lied about "this is my last response to you" (you've actually said that multiple times now), can you please answer the only questions I've asked?  Thanks!

Are you going to refund the players who you've been skimming money from for the past year+?

IF you insist that you haven't been skimming from your "450+" players, will you let a neutral 3rd party (why would you ever think I would want to do that much work?) audit your records to ensure that that is accurate? 

[Nubitcoinerr]

Darkdays is a troll for sure. He also accused xiao of being criminally liable for betcoin overraking. All my rb has been pretty much right on point....

Sent you a pm xiao.

[cryptosmoker]

Darkdays is a troll for sure. He also accused xiao of being criminally liable for betcoin overraking. All my rb has been pretty much right on point....

Sent you a pm xiao.

Idiots like you are why scumbags like Xiao think they can get away with the shit they try.

Open your eyes fool.

[DarkDays]

Darkdays is a troll for sure. He also accused xiao of being criminally liable for betcoin overraking. All my rb has been pretty much right on point....

Sent you a pm xiao.

What does "pretty much" mean?

Was it off by...3%?

[Xiaoxiao]

Why there has been a delay lately:

As you can see as of 3/25/2016 I'm still receiving data from 3/19/2016



And before I was receiving data for as far back as 2/25/2016 on 3/20.



I simply don't have the time to manually add up bits and pieces of data for the week scattered throughout the month.  So I've got to wait for the week to complete so I can send it out and even then additional data comes in.  This is why some of you have been receiving additional transfers and why RB's been delayed lately.  However the gaps been closing in recently which is good news.

[Xiaoxiao]

All rakeback processed for last week.  There may be additional data.  GL!

[TwitchySeal]

Why there has been a delay lately:

As you can see as of 3/25/2016 I'm still receiving data from 3/19/2016



And before I was receiving data for as far back as 2/25/2016 on 3/20.



I simply don't have the time to manually add up bits and pieces of data for the week scattered throughout the month.  So I've got to wait for the week to complete so I can send it out and even then additional data comes in.  This is why some of you have been receiving additional transfers and why RB's been delayed lately.  However the gaps been closing in recently which is good news.

Funny when a player asked for screenshots of what you made from his play you refused.

[Xiaoxiao]

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[TwitchySeal]

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You forgot the "within a couple percent" clause you added recently, which allows you to skim a little extra for yourself.

[NiceSoft12]

FWIW my rakeback has always been correct since day 1. With that said I can't believe Twitchyseal and company is still here. Lay off Xaio and Plo8.... he's an old man for chrissakes yet you continue to torture him in chat when you clearly know he doesn't have your answers.... seriously get a fuckin life.

[TwitchySeal]

FWIW my rakeback has always been correct since day 1. With that said I can't believe Twitchyseal and company is still here. Lay off Xaio and Plo8.... he's an old man for chrissakes yet you continue to torture him in chat when you clearly know he doesn't have your answers.... seriously get a fuckin life.

Are you saying you think Xiao has been honest?  I can't tell.

As for Plo8, he promotes and supports Betcoin - why shouldn't he be held accountable?  Because of his age really?

Unlike Xiao, he doesn't intentionally lie for them, so I'll give him that.

But he does choose remain ignorant by refusing to educate himself. 

[DarkDays]

FWIW my rakeback has always been correct since day 1. With that said I can't believe Twitchyseal and company is still here. Lay off Xaio and Plo8.... he's an old man for chrissakes yet you continue to torture him in chat when you clearly know he doesn't have your answers.... seriously get a fuckin life.

I don't understand.  How is asking someone questions based on claims that they have made "torturing" them?  Also, how is anyone supposed to know how old any of these scumbags are?  Am I supposed to get the ages of people before, during, or after they steal or are an accomplice to stealing money from me?  Also, why does it matter?  Are you an ageist?  Personally, I treat people the same way no matter if they are 18 or 80.  I urge you to do the same thing. 

Also, why does every Betcoin employee and sympathizer always have to throw in random, unwarranted attacks?  Calling people "retards" telling people to "get a fucking life".  Don't you guys understand you are only making Betcoin look even more unprofessional?

[Xiaoxiao]

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