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[Nubitcoinerr]

Why are you still doing this.

You obviously know you're wrong, otherwise you would of accepted the challenge.

You've been caught lying.

You've been caught stealing.

Spamming your affiliate link every day is just going to make it harder to forget.

If we can get a few (or even one) impartial, objective, intelligent and trustworthy members of this forum to hear my argument that Xiao has behaved unethically and unreasonable while affiliating for an unethically run site, as well as Xiaos argument that I am nothing but a full of shit troll (or whatever else you want to call me)- I would be willing to wager 10 bitcoin (maybe more) , fully escrowed on the verdict.  We could work out a % to compensate whoever we agree on for their time (before hand, regardless of the verdict).  

I'm willing to put my complete faith in any of the following people and am open to any suggestions you may have.


theymos
RHaver
Gavin Andresen
dooglus
BadBear
NLNico
Mitchełł
BayAreaCoins
Tomatocage

These are some of the most trusted intelligent people in the Bitcoin world.  

Full disclosure:
I have interacted with Dooglus a bit.
I have invested in RHavers (former) site, moneypot.


Exclude them if you want, I think their reputations speak for themselves.

I have one trade with BayAreaCoins


Other than that, I'm almost certain I have had no meaningful communication with anyone else on the list.

I doubt you will respond to this challenge in a reasonable manner.  But If you do, I will be flexible and reasonable in working something out.

You must be mentally handicapped.  No one has time for your BS.  

I must be retarded and nobody has time.  Solid.

You say I stole based on Ungod's issue to which I fully explained to him what happened and his calculations were off as well.  

Mostly the way you reacted to him requesting screen shots.

First you tried to call him out by mentioning the name of his other bitcointalk.

Then you refused to communicate with him unless it was on the other account.  

Then you ignored him when he contacted you on other account.

Then you worked something out with him privately, which likely means you were skimming from him all along and simply came up with some lame excuse for doing it and paid him back.

You say I lie because I said the BBJ was active when you thought it was inactive, but I was actually correct.

The BBJP became active the first week of August 2015. (Day of or after BBJP 10BTC Freeroll)  They collected ~12 bitcoin (or was it 14?) prior while lying to players saying they weren't collecting anything.  Those 12 BTC shouldn't be used for a freeroll or to seed the now functional jackpot, they should be returned to the players who had them taken when they had a 0% chance to win it.  

Ungod's issue was exclusive to him and it had to do with a security concern.

You claim its a security concern, then offer to tell me privately if I promise to keep quiet.  Doesn't seem like a smart way to handle an issue that should be private.  More likely your story is bullshit or if it were public you would look bad.

For the record, I don't have specific reason to believe that our issue necessarily translated to an everybody issue. I'd be glad to help you determine correct RB amounts if you feel personally shorted, or are speaking on behalf of someone.

One way you could help is to explain why you posted that Betcoin only pays 50% of vip rewards for WPN MTTs.  Did they tell you that?   Is it true?

After you libeled my thread several high volume players immediately became alerted and went over their stats and here's there conclusions:

It's not libel if it's true.  All of your references have been kissing ass for a while now so I'm not surprised their numbers are right.  Then again, I wouldn't be surprised if they were just saying that without tracking anything and you were actually skimming from them also.

Twitchy is 100% mentally retarded....100000%. I was actually concerned about the ungod situation and contacted xiao about it. He fully explained to me what happened and i will not repeat it here because it really is a security concern because so many people have tried cheating his service.  And i don't kiss ass, i'm just stating the truth.

Stop spamming this thread and take your crap to your own thread! When you're messing with xiao like this you're messing with all of us. He's provided such a nice service to the whole community at betcoin. It really is a great site to play at  and i have no complaints besides some cs issues and the handhistory/tournament record problem.  Once again for the record my rb has always been exactly on point from the moment i signed up.

[TwitchySeal]

Why are you still doing this.

You obviously know you're wrong, otherwise you would of accepted the challenge.

You've been caught lying.

You've been caught stealing.

Spamming your affiliate link every day is just going to make it harder to forget.

If we can get a few (or even one) impartial, objective, intelligent and trustworthy members of this forum to hear my argument that Xiao has behaved unethically and unreasonable while affiliating for an unethically run site, as well as Xiaos argument that I am nothing but a full of shit troll (or whatever else you want to call me)- I would be willing to wager 10 bitcoin (maybe more) , fully escrowed on the verdict.  We could work out a % to compensate whoever we agree on for their time (before hand, regardless of the verdict).  

I'm willing to put my complete faith in any of the following people and am open to any suggestions you may have.


theymos
RHaver
Gavin Andresen
dooglus
BadBear
NLNico
Mitchełł
BayAreaCoins
Tomatocage

These are some of the most trusted intelligent people in the Bitcoin world.  

Full disclosure:
I have interacted with Dooglus a bit.
I have invested in RHavers (former) site, moneypot.


Exclude them if you want, I think their reputations speak for themselves.

I have one trade with BayAreaCoins


Other than that, I'm almost certain I have had no meaningful communication with anyone else on the list.

I doubt you will respond to this challenge in a reasonable manner.  But If you do, I will be flexible and reasonable in working something out.

You must be mentally handicapped.  No one has time for your BS.  

I must be retarded and nobody has time.  Solid.

You say I stole based on Ungod's issue to which I fully explained to him what happened and his calculations were off as well.  

Mostly the way you reacted to him requesting screen shots.

First you tried to call him out by mentioning the name of his other bitcointalk.

Then you refused to communicate with him unless it was on the other account.  

Then you ignored him when he contacted you on other account.

Then you worked something out with him privately, which likely means you were skimming from him all along and simply came up with some lame excuse for doing it and paid him back.

You say I lie because I said the BBJ was active when you thought it was inactive, but I was actually correct.

The BBJP became active the first week of August 2015. (Day of or after BBJP 10BTC Freeroll)  They collected ~12 bitcoin (or was it 14?) prior while lying to players saying they weren't collecting anything.  Those 12 BTC shouldn't be used for a freeroll or to seed the now functional jackpot, they should be returned to the players who had them taken when they had a 0% chance to win it.  

Ungod's issue was exclusive to him and it had to do with a security concern.

You claim its a security concern, then offer to tell me privately if I promise to keep quiet.  Doesn't seem like a smart way to handle an issue that should be private.  More likely your story is bullshit or if it were public you would look bad.

For the record, I don't have specific reason to believe that our issue necessarily translated to an everybody issue. I'd be glad to help you determine correct RB amounts if you feel personally shorted, or are speaking on behalf of someone.

One way you could help is to explain why you posted that Betcoin only pays 50% of vip rewards for WPN MTTs.  Did they tell you that?   Is it true?

After you libeled my thread several high volume players immediately became alerted and went over their stats and here's there conclusions:

It's not libel if it's true.  All of your references have been kissing ass for a while now so I'm not surprised their numbers are right.  Then again, I wouldn't be surprised if they were just saying that without tracking anything and you were actually skimming from them also.

Twitchy is 100% mentally retarded....100000%. I was actually concerned about the ungod situation and contacted xiao about it. He fully explained to me what happened and i will not repeat it here because it really is a security concern because so many people have tried cheating his service.  And i don't kiss ass, i'm just stating the truth.

Stop spamming this thread and take your crap to your own thread! When you're messing with xiao like this you're messing with all of us. He's provided such a nice service to the whole community at betcoin. It really is a great site to play at  and i have no complaints besides some cs issues and the handhistory/tournament record problem.  Once again for the record my rb has always been exactly on point from the moment i signed up.

Was he skimming from ungod or not, yes or no?

It obviously can't be that much of a security concern if he's pming so many people to give them the details.  It comes down to whether he was keeping a few % for himself until he got caught, not the excuse he came up with after being called out publicly.  

You do realize Xiao is not doing this out of the goodness of his heart right? He's doing what's best for himself and there's nothing wrong with that but don't fall for the "I provide a service, SO CLICK MY AFFILIATE LINK AND SIGN UP" BS.  How much do you think he makes off 400+ players Casino and Sports revenue?  How many players would he have if he wasn't given a higher commission than any other affiliate?  Do you think that's fair to them?  Or do you just look at things as they relate to you directly.  

As for your rakeback, you either don't track it, you're lying or you play very little and never WPN mtts or cash from Nov-Dec.  Even if Xiao has been paying you exactly 40 or 50% of what he's getting, you would notice discrepancies if you were tracking it properly.

[Xiaoxiao]

Today's notable event is the 75k GTD.

[DarkDays]

Some would say that the notable event is you dodging Twitchy, who is offering to pay you if the things you are saying about him are correct.

[Xiaoxiao]

For some of the newcomers this is how you view your past payments:

1) Click transaction history



2) Next filter 'All', 'Player to Player transfer', 'Credits', and if you've been playing for a long time at Betcoin '1000 per page'

[TwitchySeal]

Some would say that the notable event is you dodging Twitchy, who is offering to pay you if the things you are saying about him are correct.

Indeed.  I guess he either doesn't like money/clearing his name or he thinks he would lose.

[cmoltisanti]

Or he realizes that arguing with the mentally ill isn't productive. How are you still stuck on this months and months later? No people who actually use Xiao s service are unhappy. The only people causing trouble here are the same broke losers who cause trouble on betcoin as well. Twitchy and dark days are disgruntled because they are broke not because they have a legitimate concern. I will repeat it again ZERO actual users of this service are unhappy. Thanks to this service literally I have received 5 figures in rakeback that I otherwise wouldn't have gotten.  I am very thankful to xiao for that and I think based on the complete silence from the rest of the user base there are another 400+ satisfied customers as well

[TwitchySeal]

Or he realizes that arguing with the mentally ill isn't productive. How are you still stuck on this months and months later? No people who actually use Xiao s service are unhappy. The only people causing trouble here are the same broke losers who cause trouble on betcoin as well. Twitchy and dark days are disgruntled because they are broke not because they have a legitimate concern. I will repeat it again ZERO actual users of this service are unhappy. Thanks to this service literally I have received 5 figures in rakeback that I otherwise wouldn't have gotten.  I am very thankful to xiao for that and I think based on the complete silence from the rest of the user base there are another 400+ satisfied customers as well

If by 5 figures you mean $10,000 USD, then either you are wrong or Xiao has overpayed you significantly.

You're also wrong about me being busto and ZERO players under Xiao being unhappy.

[cmoltisanti]

Oh i get it now you haven't played above .01/.02 when you do manage to scrounge up a few cents to play so think 10k a year in rb is impossible.  I have routinely gotten 400-1600 chips a week in rb.  You do the math...

[TwitchySeal]

Oh i get it now you haven't played above .01/.02 when you do manage to scrounge up a few cents to play so think 10k a year in rb is impossible.  I have routinely gotten 400-1600 chips a week in rb.  You do the math...

I believe that you believe yourself. 

But I know how to do math and I know what VIP level you are, that's how I know you didn't pay over $20,000 USD in rake. (and get half back from Xiao)

I've pointed out several of your other false statements, what made you choose this one to try and defend?

[ungod]

My math was wrong? Using the same methods I used before, I just checked your rakeback paid for last week. Now it is absolutely correct, before it wasn't. I have not disclosed the specifics because xiao asked me not to, and everything is fine now. Saying my math is wrong though, it wasn't, it still isn't.

[cmoltisanti]

Oh really what vip level am i?

Also what other false statements have I said?  Bottom line is you are a cancer to the entire BTC community which is why the only defenders you have are the other busto players.

[DarkDays]

My math was wrong? Using the same methods I used before, I just checked your rakeback paid for last week. Now it is absolutely correct, before it wasn't. I have not disclosed the specifics because xiao asked me not to, and everything is fine now. Saying my math is wrong though, it wasn't, it still isn't.

How does it make you feel when someone who directly benefited from you calling Xiao out on his skimming is now calling you names like "retarded"?  If he is legit putting in 25k worth of rake per year, the results of your actions has made him north of a coin.  And yet...baseless insults.  Why?  

[Xiaoxiao]

Over half way done with processing RB.  The rest will be completed when I get back tomorrow.  GL everyone!  Also those with referrals will be getting 2 transfers rather than all in one to make it easier to differentiate. 

[Xiaoxiao]

Forgot to mention that there are some ultra profitable tournaments today simply browse the tournament tab. They include 20k, 20k, extreme tuesday, oss vi, and more.  Please check it out yourself as I don't have time to post each one in detail right now.  Thanks!

[Xiaoxiao]

Just got back early this morning and processing the remainder of rakeback now.  Thanks and GL!

[Xiaoxiao]

All rakeback processed!  Also be sure to be prepared for this Sunday's $1,000,000 GTD tournament!

Some incredible overlay from before:



As well as a $225,000 overlay prior.

[Xiaoxiao]

[NiceSoft12]

Hey Xiao please get back to me when you get a chance. I really need a cashout. Thanks a lot man!

[Xiaoxiao]

Hey Xiao please get back to me when you get a chance. I really need a cashout. Thanks a lot man!

Took care of this for you yesterday.  For everyone else, I've got a flight in a few hours and RB for last week will be delayed a couple days until late Thursday/early Friday when I get back.  Take care everyone!