Sovanik
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July 23, 2014, 01:59:16 AM |
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I'm sorry but +1 million usd market cap in 1 night without any new features added? I really need to get out of crypto.
lol, btcd will get exclusive features that other coins don't have. (besides NXT) He also edited what he had originally said, which was something along these lines, "2 Million Market Cap? With mining, won't the price go down?" which means he didn't even realize the mining is basically done(Unless you want to count the pool, which isn't mining THIS coin specifically).
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MFTHC
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July 23, 2014, 02:18:24 AM |
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Is there a big plan?
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xyzzyx
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July 23, 2014, 02:18:58 AM |
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I just thought of a small leak of info If I allow different length messages, then an attacker could deduce the type of message you are sending by tracking the size of the packets. Not sure how big of a problem this is. The problem with fixed sized messages is that it will waste a fair amount of bandwidth.
Ah, maybe this is one of the differences in privacy levels! Yes, I like that. At lower levels of privacy, such small info leakage is accepted,but at higher levels of privacy, all messages will be of fixed size
James
You could always add random length padding to your messages. However, this may be more trouble than it's worth for very small differences in size over fixed length.
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"An awful lot of code is being written ... in languages that aren't very good by people who don't know what they're doing." -- Barbara Liskov
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mlord1010
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July 23, 2014, 02:31:18 AM |
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I'm sorry but +1 million usd market cap in 1 night without any new features added? I really need to get out of crypto.
lol, btcd will get exclusive features that other coins don't have. (besides NXT) He also edited what he had originally said, which was something along these lines, "2 Million Market Cap? With mining, won't the price go down?" which means he didn't even realize the mining is basically done(Unless you want to count the pool, which isn't mining THIS coin specifically). [/quote I realized it or I wouldn't have erased it. My thought was actually that it would go down with Minting... but 5% is pretty small. But let's be realistic... Why do these coins shoot up 1million on promises? There's no change between today and yesterday.
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Ezravdb
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July 23, 2014, 02:32:13 AM |
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You invest in something with potential and accountable devs
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mlord1010
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July 23, 2014, 02:33:11 AM |
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You invest in something with potential
The potential hasn't changed... That is why I'm asking. Why are people investing even more as the price rises? There's no real determining factor? I realize that this comes off as fud, and it sort of is. But I honestly want to know what makes these things tick to know what to look for in future investments. There was no new news, no new announcements, nothing changed as far as I can tell. Why did this explode?
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koralon
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July 23, 2014, 02:38:18 AM |
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You invest in something with potential
The potential hasn't changed... That is what I'm asking. Why are people investing now that it's expensive and not yesterday when it wasn't? Well let's see in few weeks if you still think it was expensive today.
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Sovanik
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July 23, 2014, 02:45:21 AM |
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You invest in something with potential
The potential hasn't changed... That is what I'm asking. Why are people investing now that it's expensive and not yesterday when it wasn't? I realize that this comes off as fud, and it sort of is. But I honestly want to know what makes these things tick to know what to look for in future investments. There was no new news, no new announcements, nothing changed as far as I can tell. Why did this explode? Bystander effect is the easiest way to describe. Everyone will ignore something until one person steps in, then slowly more people will join. And the potential has increased more day-by-day with JL developing, and the post with the IRC chat between the guys helping. A coin created under the premise that the community will help each other, is developing exactly as such. Also, with other coins having higher focus at the time [VIA, CLN(This joke of a scam), VRC(With the Fiat, etc), Etc Coins] the investing community has been spread out. Welcome to the nature of altcoins and trading/investing.
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jl777
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July 23, 2014, 02:46:22 AM |
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I just thought of a small leak of info If I allow different length messages, then an attacker could deduce the type of message you are sending by tracking the size of the packets. Not sure how big of a problem this is. The problem with fixed sized messages is that it will waste a fair amount of bandwidth.
Ah, maybe this is one of the differences in privacy levels! Yes, I like that. At lower levels of privacy, such small info leakage is accepted,but at higher levels of privacy, all messages will be of fixed size
James
You could always add random length padding to your messages. However, this may be more trouble than it's worth for very small differences in size over fixed length. good idea! this could help, but I cant easily calculate the leakage as it becomes quite complex
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mlord1010
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July 23, 2014, 02:52:11 AM |
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You invest in something with potential
The potential hasn't changed... That is what I'm asking. Why are people investing now that it's expensive and not yesterday when it wasn't? I realize that this comes off as fud, and it sort of is. But I honestly want to know what makes these things tick to know what to look for in future investments. There was no new news, no new announcements, nothing changed as far as I can tell. Why did this explode? Bystander effect is the easiest way to describe. Everyone will ignore something until one person steps in, then slowly more people will join. And the potential has increased more day-by-day with JL developing, and the post with the IRC chat between the guys helping. A coin created under the premise that the community will help each other, is developing exactly as such. Also, with other coins having higher focus at the time [VIA, CLN(This joke of a scam), VRC(With the Fiat, etc), Etc Coins] the investing community has been spread out. Welcome to the nature of altcoins and trading/investing. Thanks for the insight. It's so funny that you think you learn a lesson from history, then history pulls a 180. Shibe was destroyed for having a name like Doge. I figured this coin would get attacked by the dark community and the bitcoin community since the name is a double ripoff. Then bam, 180. The only thing I have learned so far is whales use counter logic to win big.
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Sebastien256
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July 23, 2014, 03:08:29 AM |
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Is it me or this coin is *instant* mined in 14 days?
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crackfoo
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July 23, 2014, 03:15:36 AM Last edit: July 24, 2014, 03:30:21 AM by crackfoo |
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xyzzyx
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July 23, 2014, 03:19:11 AM |
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I just thought of a small leak of info If I allow different length messages, then an attacker could deduce the type of message you are sending by tracking the size of the packets. Not sure how big of a problem this is. The problem with fixed sized messages is that it will waste a fair amount of bandwidth.
Ah, maybe this is one of the differences in privacy levels! Yes, I like that. At lower levels of privacy, such small info leakage is accepted,but at higher levels of privacy, all messages will be of fixed size
James
You could always add random length padding to your messages. However, this may be more trouble than it's worth for very small differences in size over fixed length. good idea! this could help, but I cant easily calculate the leakage as it becomes quite complex Do you have documentation somewhere on the types of messages and their format? I'd like to take a look.
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gitbknowsall
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July 23, 2014, 03:28:57 AM |
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You invest in something with potential
The potential hasn't changed... That is why I'm asking. Why are people investing even more as the price rises? There's no real determining factor? I realize that this comes off as fud, and it sort of is. But I honestly want to know what makes these things tick to know what to look for in future investments. There was no new news, no new announcements, nothing changed as far as I can tell. Why did this explode? there is a document & diagram, in the works to display the development process thus far, also if you take a look at jl777's previous post youll get an idea of the current status of anonymity development and additional features such as pNXT on github. its understandable that some of the technical information isnt quite clear but keep in mind the development has been daily.
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walkeroo
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July 23, 2014, 03:31:12 AM |
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Wow, price so high
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gitbknowsall
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July 23, 2014, 03:36:36 AM |
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Is it me or this coin is *instant* mined in 14 days?
it was know since the beginning that there would be a short mining period. If you check out page one you'll see it in various articles through the recent media coverage.
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lin0sspice
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July 23, 2014, 03:37:29 AM |
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No you still have a chance , will go 0.0x for sure .
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July 23, 2014, 03:45:55 AM |
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Don't sell under 500000 satoshi !!!
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jl777
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July 23, 2014, 03:54:33 AM |
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I just thought of a small leak of info If I allow different length messages, then an attacker could deduce the type of message you are sending by tracking the size of the packets. Not sure how big of a problem this is. The problem with fixed sized messages is that it will waste a fair amount of bandwidth.
Ah, maybe this is one of the differences in privacy levels! Yes, I like that. At lower levels of privacy, such small info leakage is accepted,but at higher levels of privacy, all messages will be of fixed size
James
You could always add random length padding to your messages. However, this may be more trouble than it's worth for very small differences in size over fixed length. good idea! this could help, but I cant easily calculate the leakage as it becomes quite complex Do you have documentation somewhere on the types of messages and their format? I'd like to take a look. Most all messages are like this: [{"requestType":"processutx","NXT":"8989816935121514892","utx":"0201b93a3d01d00225c5fed2690701cf06f267e7c227b1a3c0dfa9c6fc3cdb593b3af6f16d65302 f8c71b555df3ec27c000000000000000000e1f50500000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000444a53bf9828e869e80300000000000031007b22617373657442223a2231363339323939383 439333238343339353338222c2271747942223a2231303030303030227d","sig":"2dec3f78c73a4181e8ac4417eff4036176313935f79667ea8c6bc88a4bfd438f","full":"c04e8b6d34244aa5aef98f095197e9b8d1c8a8a3c3d4e6774c3fc955fcaac6e9","time":1406084344},{"token":"d79fth95u83cu087m4js5pr7oqktvg537dctmf7sclmv3thq7ktbibpgp0f3ecg1uk4fnk98cml5uvf k1pqqe0em15c699vt1rs4admc3tugtv1jj59btt4rcj0e9pipkhqrs7m61mehd2krk9i819nvjlmhe0 tv"}]] I keep adding new API calls daily. the first part of JSON is the actual API call, the second is a token that uses the first JSON object as the input. The processutx is one of the longer requests. There are currently over a dozen, probably another dozen more will be added this month. I just write them as I need them since they are easy enough to add. James P.S. I know, I should compress all the zeroes and I plan to use my jsoncodec once the API calls stabilize, just need a words list and should get nice 2 to 3x compression ratio
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jl777
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July 23, 2014, 03:56:51 AM |
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You invest in something with potential
The potential hasn't changed... That is why I'm asking. Why are people investing even more as the price rises? There's no real determining factor? I realize that this comes off as fud, and it sort of is. But I honestly want to know what makes these things tick to know what to look for in future investments. There was no new news, no new announcements, nothing changed as far as I can tell. Why did this explode? maybe the press it got has something to do with it? maybe <1.2 million coins? maybe ~100 coins per day maybe released dev meeting log? maybe people actually understand what I am building? Or it could just be random chance?
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