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July 22, 2014, 03:50:38 AM
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Hi all,

I am Torrn, one of the core devs on this project along with jl777, Azeh, and BTCDDev. I will be here to help out and update info as we develop.

The link below is a transcript of our Dev IRC discussion from yesterday. If you have any questions or ideas that are generated from the discussion, please let us know.  Wink

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I really recommend everyone read this. It will give you some insight into BitcoinDark and why this coin is going to do everything we have been promising!  Smiley

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July 22, 2014, 04:42:47 AM
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Hi James,

I have an error linking pNXT.  If you're happy to discuss the issues here than ok, but I'll use pastebin for the errors otherwise it's going to get bloated here really fast Smiley

http://pastebin.com/n2XTYd81


make sure you have clang installed
from the pNXT/src directory do a:
./m_unix

that should make pNXTd in the pNXT/src/src directory

Kind of a mess, but I just used the existing make structure

James

Still no joy... http://pastebin.com/ckV8FewS

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July 22, 2014, 04:53:23 AM
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greetings, I am on dark.poolx.ca mining for 30+ hrs with 20 gh and 6 mh and no payout. just looking to see if anyone has had a payout there in the past 24 hrs i tried to jump on irc but so far i have gone unheard. bout to switch to the other multi


i tested dark.poolx.ca  as well with 1Ths mining for 24hrs and only get 3 btcd
and max getting pay with 10 btcd in 24hrs

and its not worth so better use your sha-256 rig  to mine BTC instead of BTCD
if any pool can give promise could mine more margin then mining BTC msg me as i have  500 Ths rig miner in hand now mining btc at the moment

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July 22, 2014, 04:53:33 AM
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Hi James,

I have an error linking pNXT.  If you're happy to discuss the issues here than ok, but I'll use pastebin for the errors otherwise it's going to get bloated here really fast Smiley

http://pastebin.com/n2XTYd81


make sure you have clang installed
from the pNXT/src directory do a:
./m_unix

that should make pNXTd in the pNXT/src/src directory

Kind of a mess, but I just used the existing make structure

James

Still no joy... http://pastebin.com/ckV8FewS

you have to install curl and it seems there is a boost issue...
I hate boost, so hard to install
maybe revert to 1.53? Just need to get the ubuntu to recognize the boost and I think it will work

James

P.S. You did do a "cmake .." from the pNXT/src directory?

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July 22, 2014, 05:07:58 AM
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Hey everyone, this is kind of a re-post from last night.  

I love price watching too, but I'd like to keep us focused on development as well.




Call to action!

Alright everybody, James is making real progress and will continue to do so on the technical advancement of BTCD.

I would like to ask the communities support in ramping up marketing activities.  

We need people to help spread the word.  Get on social media, re-tweet our messages.  Let crypto oriented news outlets know about our progress.

Some basic things that we should be doing:

-contact more media outlets (If you have any special connections to any media outlets, please put in a word)

-create a more professional looking website (IceColdTommy has said he will develop the website)

-find someone that can do HTML5 and is willing to start building an html wallet

-come up with a unique name for our "wallet", which will be able to do trades, bets, privatesends, asset exchanges

-improve the logo


Whatever else you guys can think of!

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July 22, 2014, 05:30:11 AM
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How will CryptoNote technologies be incorporated into this coin?
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July 22, 2014, 05:44:09 AM
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How will CryptoNote technologies be incorporated into this coin?
I am exploring various approaches, but have not decided on the final form yet

I am starting with the assumption that the user will simply want to go "privateSend" and then all the algos crunch away and after some time passes, the funds are available to the receiver.

If you look at my discussion thread with AnonyMint, the ring signature idea is actually very similar to the plan I initially had. At the time I wasnt aware of the ring signatures. Now that I am and also have already made a cryptonote fork, I am getting closer to being able to make the right choice. I do have one approach where I extracted the core ring signature algo in isolation and if I can surgically insert that into BTCD core, then it would be the cleanest approach, but would definitely take longer.

So, the question is do we want something that is available sooner, but does a two step process with a pNXT conduit, or takes longer and will need a LOT of testing with a pure merging of ring signatures into BTCD.

For now I am keeping my options open and implementing the things that either approach requires. It also fills out more of the "jigsaw puzzle" and the more of the puzzle pieces have their place known, the less unknown and the easier for someone like me to pop in the next piece. So as long as I can keep making incremental progress, then eventually at some point I am done

Pretty scientific isnt it Smiley
The basic theory is that if you have a problem P and can reduce its complexity to P-- and you can keep doing this, eventually it becomes "p" and I finish it in a day

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July 22, 2014, 05:47:24 AM
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Hi James,

I have an error linking pNXT.  If you're happy to discuss the issues here than ok, but I'll use pastebin for the errors otherwise it's going to get bloated here really fast Smiley

http://pastebin.com/n2XTYd81


make sure you have clang installed
from the pNXT/src directory do a:
./m_unix

that should make pNXTd in the pNXT/src/src directory

Kind of a mess, but I just used the existing make structure

James


Still no joy... http://pastebin.com/ckV8FewS

you have to install curl and it seems there is a boost issue...
I hate boost, so hard to install
maybe revert to 1.53? Just need to get the ubuntu to recognize the boost and I think it will work

James

P.S. You did do a "cmake .." from the pNXT/src directory?
Still no joy :/
It's basically complaining about not being able to find the static boost libraries.  I don't think I can downgrade to an earlier version either as they dont seem to be available for Ubuntu 14.  How annoying!

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July 22, 2014, 05:53:11 AM
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How will CryptoNote technologies be incorporated into this coin?
I am exploring various approaches, but have not decided on the final form yet

I am starting with the assumption that the user will simply want to go "privateSend" and then all the algos crunch away and after some time passes, the funds are available to the receiver.

If you look at my discussion thread with AnonyMint, the ring signature idea is actually very similar to the plan I initially had. At the time I wasnt aware of the ring signatures. Now that I am and also have already made a cryptonote fork, I am getting closer to being able to make the right choice. I do have one approach where I extracted the core ring signature algo in isolation and if I can surgically insert that into BTCD core, then it would be the cleanest approach, but would definitely take longer.

So, the question is do we want something that is available sooner, but does a two step process with a pNXT conduit, or takes longer and will need a LOT of testing with a pure merging of ring signatures into BTCD.

For now I am keeping my options open and implementing the things that either approach requires. It also fills out more of the "jigsaw puzzle" and the more of the puzzle pieces have their place known, the less unknown and the easier for someone like me to pop in the next piece. So as long as I can keep making incremental progress, then eventually at some point I am done

Pretty scientific isnt it Smiley
The basic theory is that if you have a problem P and can reduce its complexity to P-- and you can keep doing this, eventually it becomes "p" and I finish it in a day

James

Interesting, so you're attempting to merge CryptoNote and conventional bitcoin technologies?
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July 22, 2014, 06:08:52 AM
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Hi James,

I have an error linking pNXT.  If you're happy to discuss the issues here than ok, but I'll use pastebin for the errors otherwise it's going to get bloated here really fast Smiley

http://pastebin.com/n2XTYd81


make sure you have clang installed
from the pNXT/src directory do a:
./m_unix

that should make pNXTd in the pNXT/src/src directory

Kind of a mess, but I just used the existing make structure

James


Still no joy... http://pastebin.com/ckV8FewS

you have to install curl and it seems there is a boost issue...
I hate boost, so hard to install
maybe revert to 1.53? Just need to get the ubuntu to recognize the boost and I think it will work

James

P.S. You did do a "cmake .." from the pNXT/src directory?
Still no joy :/
It's basically complaining about not being able to find the static boost libraries.  I don't think I can downgrade to an earlier version either as they dont seem to be available for Ubuntu 14.  How annoying!
1.55?

You might try to install a vanilla BBR first. That would get all the compiler dependencies out of the way, then pNXTd will build

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July 22, 2014, 06:17:20 AM
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Hi James,

I have an error linking pNXT.  If you're happy to discuss the issues here than ok, but I'll use pastebin for the errors otherwise it's going to get bloated here really fast Smiley

http://pastebin.com/n2XTYd81


make sure you have clang installed
from the pNXT/src directory do a:
./m_unix

that should make pNXTd in the pNXT/src/src directory

Kind of a mess, but I just used the existing make structure

James


Still no joy... http://pastebin.com/ckV8FewS

you have to install curl and it seems there is a boost issue...
I hate boost, so hard to install
maybe revert to 1.53? Just need to get the ubuntu to recognize the boost and I think it will work

James

P.S. You did do a "cmake .." from the pNXT/src directory?
Still no joy :/
It's basically complaining about not being able to find the static boost libraries.  I don't think I can downgrade to an earlier version either as they dont seem to be available for Ubuntu 14.  How annoying!
1.55?

You might try to install a vanilla BBR first. That would get all the compiler dependencies out of the way, then pNXTd will build

Quick glance, try to install the -dev package for static libs... you might only have the .so's and not the .libs

better to ensure you arent compiling a static target... its not a good idea. Better to build dynamically, remove -static from the makefile if its there.

Also you are missing lib curl package aswell.

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July 22, 2014, 06:20:00 AM
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How will CryptoNote technologies be incorporated into this coin?
I am exploring various approaches, but have not decided on the final form yet

I am starting with the assumption that the user will simply want to go "privateSend" and then all the algos crunch away and after some time passes, the funds are available to the receiver.

If you look at my discussion thread with AnonyMint, the ring signature idea is actually very similar to the plan I initially had. At the time I wasnt aware of the ring signatures. Now that I am and also have already made a cryptonote fork, I am getting closer to being able to make the right choice. I do have one approach where I extracted the core ring signature algo in isolation and if I can surgically insert that into BTCD core, then it would be the cleanest approach, but would definitely take longer.

So, the question is do we want something that is available sooner, but does a two step process with a pNXT conduit, or takes longer and will need a LOT of testing with a pure merging of ring signatures into BTCD.

For now I am keeping my options open and implementing the things that either approach requires. It also fills out more of the "jigsaw puzzle" and the more of the puzzle pieces have their place known, the less unknown and the easier for someone like me to pop in the next piece. So as long as I can keep making incremental progress, then eventually at some point I am done

Pretty scientific isnt it Smiley
The basic theory is that if you have a problem P and can reduce its complexity to P-- and you can keep doing this, eventually it becomes "p" and I finish it in a day

James

Interesting, so you're attempting to merge CryptoNote and conventional bitcoin technologies?
Long term that could be the preferred solution to simplify the architecture, but I want to get something out sooner rather than later so I plan on doing a "soft merge", so they both coexist. Then again I might just get a flash of insight on how to do something totally original and solve the fundamental problem of privacy. That's really what this is about. If I can create a privacy solution that passes peer review, then the exact algo is not so relevant.

BitcoinDark is committed to continue to advance privacy tech while at the same time providing other valuable services all in a user friendly environment. So, currently ring signatures look very good, but zerocoin threatens to come out with zerocash and if they actually do and their zeroknowledge stuff is really as good as they say, it would make sense to integrate that into BitcoinDark. I like to have different privacy levels, so maybe basic level uses mixing, corporate level uses ring signatures, advanced uses zerocash and total-invisibility level combines all of them.

I want people to be able to choose BitcoinDark and then not have to worry about whether it was the right tech choice. BTCD will be like the Borg, we will assimilate all useful tech. If I made a mistake (I do this on occasion) and made the wrong selection, then I will simply correct it and pop in the better algo.

So things are evolving and will continue to evolve. Privacy tech is like antivirus tech. As soon as you reach a certain level of privacy, attackers start attacking and it is prudent to improve the algorithms.

James

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July 22, 2014, 06:31:06 AM
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how can these people just keep dumping......
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July 22, 2014, 06:37:33 AM
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how can these people just keep dumping......
Its ok, like waves. goes up, goes down.
They key is if the tide is rising or not.
Need to average the waves to check this

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July 22, 2014, 06:43:28 AM
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Hi James,

I have an error linking pNXT.  If you're happy to discuss the issues here than ok, but I'll use pastebin for the errors otherwise it's going to get bloated here really fast Smiley

http://pastebin.com/n2XTYd81


make sure you have clang installed
from the pNXT/src directory do a:
./m_unix

that should make pNXTd in the pNXT/src/src directory

Kind of a mess, but I just used the existing make structure

James


Still no joy... http://pastebin.com/ckV8FewS

you have to install curl and it seems there is a boost issue...
I hate boost, so hard to install
maybe revert to 1.53? Just need to get the ubuntu to recognize the boost and I think it will work

James

P.S. You did do a "cmake .." from the pNXT/src directory?
Still no joy :/
It's basically complaining about not being able to find the static boost libraries.  I don't think I can downgrade to an earlier version either as they dont seem to be available for Ubuntu 14.  How annoying!
1.55?

You might try to install a vanilla BBR first. That would get all the compiler dependencies out of the way, then pNXTd will build

Quick glance, try to install the -dev package for static libs... you might only have the .so's and not the .libs

better to ensure you arent compiling a static target... its not a good idea. Better to build dynamically, remove -static from the makefile if its there.

Also you are missing lib curl package aswell.
I have curl installed (that's an old error post), I have libboost-all-dev installed, I see nothing in CMakeLists.txt about using static libs.  Sorry don't think i can burn any more time on this now.  I guess I'll just wait until other people figure it out.

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July 22, 2014, 06:53:52 AM
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how can these people just keep dumping......

trying to get the price down :\ not working at all.
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July 22, 2014, 07:08:03 AM
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This coin is looking more and more promising with each passing day

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July 22, 2014, 07:08:59 AM
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Hmm also having issues building pNXT but they are complications with packages in Ubuntu.

Code:
Building dependency tree      
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 libboost-all-dev : Depends: libboost-dev but it is not going to be installed
                    Depends: libboost-atomic-dev but it is not going to be installed
                    Depends: libboost-chrono-dev but it is not going to be installed
                    Depends: libboost-context-dev but it is not going to be installed
                    Depends: libboost-date-time-dev but it is not going to be installed
                    Depends: libboost-exception-dev but it is not going to be installed
                    Depends: libboost-filesystem-dev but it is not going to be installed
                    Depends: libboost-graph-dev but it is not going to be installed
                    Depends: libboost-graph-parallel-dev but it is not going to be installed
                    Depends: libboost-iostreams-dev but it is not going to be installed
                    Depends: libboost-locale-dev but it is not going to be installed
                    Depends: libboost-math-dev but it is not going to be installed
                    Depends: libboost-mpi-dev but it is not going to be installed
                    Depends: libboost-mpi-python-dev but it is not going to be installed
                    Depends: libboost-program-options-dev but it is not going to be installed
                    Depends: libboost-python-dev but it is not going to be installed
                    Depends: libboost-random-dev but it is not going to be installed
                    Depends: libboost-regex-dev but it is not going to be installed
                    Depends: libboost-serialization-dev but it is not going to be installed
                    Depends: libboost-signals-dev but it is not going to be installed
                    Depends: libboost-system-dev but it is not going to be installed
                    Depends: libboost-test-dev but it is not going to be installed
                    Depends: libboost-thread-dev but it is not going to be installed
                    Depends: libboost-timer-dev but it is not going to be installed
                    Depends: libboost-wave-dev but it is not going to be installed
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July 22, 2014, 07:30:48 AM
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Look what I found on Twitter: https://twitter.com/CryptoTherapist/status/491482611714621442 Smiley
That guy is right, someone should make Bitcoindark accepted here banners Smiley (I would but my PS skills suck)
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July 22, 2014, 07:40:51 AM
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Hello!! I'm a beginner and I would like to ask few questions because I can't find answers. BTCD is a kind of freshness in cryptocurrency and it's very interesting, that's why I want to know. I was mining untill POW phase end. And can anyone explain to me:

1). What exactly POW phase is?
2). Can we still mine BTCD ? Or will we be able in the future? Because there's info about official pool in the main BTCD thread but there is no our coin. Can anyone explain how it works?

I'll be very grateful for answers Smiley

Hi FeiLong!

1. PoW phase was the temporary period of time when BTCD could be mined. Now that it is over and PoS phase is in, you can only generate new coins by leaving your wallet running and letting it 'stake'.

2. We will never be able to mine BTCD again, it's actually quite rare. Only a little over 1 million coins exist. The pools on the main page are for 'multipools' which mine other coins and pay out in BTCD they buy on the exchanges.

Thank You for answer ! So if I understood right, we can gain some coins on multipools but we gain BTCD only by exchanges made by pool?

To gain coins, you can either

1. Leave your wallet unlocked and running on your computer. Your coins will 'stake' and gain interest (~5%/year)
2. Point your miners to a multipool (suggest dark.xpool.ca) and they will buy BTCD and pay you with them
3. Buy BTCD yourself

 Smiley

Thanks Cloudboy for all the answers Smiley
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