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August 14, 2010, 01:21:38 PM
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Although gold is a commodity, gold coins are not a commodity.

Hmmm, I don't think that this is a very good way to say this.  Not that I disagree, per se; but I think that it is more confusing than anything since the coins can be melted and return to a commodity by anyone at will.
It gets at the point. The gold that the gold coins are made of, is still a commodity while it's a gold coin. But the features which make the gold coins, coins, are features of a manufactured product, not a raw material. Commodities are the raw materials from which manufactured products are created. Bitcoins are manufactured from commodities. Bitcoins are not a raw material used to manufacture products.

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August 14, 2010, 03:54:16 PM
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Could we lose the "$" sign in this thread's title and the dubious conversion into Federal Reserve Notes? The quickest way to get this project shut down is to encroach on the territory of the Federal Reserve.

The further the Bitcoin can distance itself from the Fed, "coinage", "currency", and even "money", the better.

 
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August 14, 2010, 08:04:37 PM
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Commodities are the raw materials from which manufactured products are created. Bitcoins are manufactured from commodities. Bitcoins are not a raw material used to manufacture products.


I understand what you are trying to say here, but again, I don't think this is a good way to say it.  Unlike gold coins that can be melted down for their material value, bitcoins are irreverseble.  More so than even the printing of a US note, since if the value of a note were to drop below the value of the paper itself, at least the paper can still be burned for heat.


"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

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August 14, 2010, 08:07:44 PM
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Could we lose the "$" sign in this thread's title and the dubious conversion into Federal Reserve Notes? The quickest way to get this project shut down is to encroach on the territory of the Federal Reserve.

The further the Bitcoin can distance itself from the Fed, "coinage", "currency", and even "money", the better.


I don't think it's much of a risk. But it isn't aesthetically pleasing to me anyway. Not to mention that conversions like that ought be construed as offers, in which case I'd like to do some business.

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August 14, 2010, 08:11:00 PM
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Although gold is a commodity, gold coins are not a commodity.

Hmmm, I don't think that this is a very good way to say this.  Not that I disagree, per se; but I think that it is more confusing than anything since the coins can be melted and return to a commodity by anyone at will.
It gets at the point. The gold that the gold coins are made of, is still a commodity while it's a gold coin. But the features which make the gold coins, coins, are features of a manufactured product, not a raw material. Commodities are the raw materials from which manufactured products are created. Bitcoins are manufactured from commodities. Bitcoins are not a raw material used to manufacture products.

What? You can't make a gold coin out of gold only. You need equipment and energy too, and you cannot get those things back from the coin.

AND you need equipment and energy to get gold out of the ground and you cannot get those back either.

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August 14, 2010, 08:43:48 PM
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This discussion about whether bitcoins are a commodity is way off topic and dragging on, so I moved it over to its own thread.

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August 17, 2010, 06:24:33 PM
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So, how is the video making going?

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August 17, 2010, 10:27:33 PM
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I followed up with http://www.cyriak.co.uk this time using email.  Perhaps he may notice the message sooner now and maybe he will take interest in producing a most amazingly and epically awesome animation/video that our community can be proud of and excited by.
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August 18, 2010, 04:41:35 PM
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Looking at this thread, I wonder if perhaps a group could collaboratively work on developing something using Scratch:

http://scratch.mit.edu/

If you are looking for something easy to work with that can permit a group effort for editing, remixing, and doing some simple animation, this is at least a good first step.  For crying out loud, their target audience for this media environment is middle-school aged kids (roughly 10-14 year olds, although there is a very healthy adult community using this software too).  My kids have used the microphone from our Rock Band set and have created some pretty impressive videos, and converting a Scratch project to an MPEG file is relatively trivial if that is a goal too.

I might just try to come up with something using Scratch myself, as that sounds like a fun project and would only take a few hours to get it accomplished.  It is certainly something that a single person could perhaps create with a relatively trivial amount of effort.
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August 20, 2010, 07:42:43 PM
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Progress report, mizerydearia.

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August 21, 2010, 02:28:05 AM
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No word from Cyriak.  I am not certain if he will respond.  However, according to http://www.cyriak.co.uk/info.html
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I use adobe photoshop and after effects for most of my animations, and have worked on a wide variety of commercial projects, from tv advertising to channel idents to music videos.

Also, from an interview I read, he uses fruityloops to make music.

With enough effort, someone else may be able to make something amazing too, however, I do not believe that most can match his creativity/awesomeness.

It would be amazing if he were to show attention towards this.
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August 24, 2010, 07:40:22 PM
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Any words, mizerydearia?

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August 27, 2010, 03:34:11 PM
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Nothing happening?

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August 28, 2010, 04:21:47 PM
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Project dead? Cry

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August 28, 2010, 04:31:18 PM
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I've been working on a script.
Not got anywhere near animating anything yet..
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August 29, 2010, 03:52:18 AM
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Perhaps those that are contributing towards the development of an animated movie should be specific of their expectations.  For example, anyone can put forth their own effort to produce an animated film of Bitcoin, but will it be worthy of all or any of the bitcoin donations offered to produce a short anim?  Clarification on expectations are necessary.
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Last edit: August 29, 2010, 07:32:03 AM by Insti
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Perhaps those that are contributing towards the development of an animated movie should be specific of their expectations.  For example, anyone can put forth their own effort to produce an animated film of Bitcoin, but will it be worthy of all or any of the bitcoin donations offered to produce a short anim?  Clarification on expectations are necessary.

Did you read this thread!?!

You might also notice we're not suffering an overabundance of movies..

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August 29, 2010, 07:28:01 AM
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Perhaps those that are contributing towards the development of an animated movie should be specific of their expectations.  For example, anyone can put forth their own effort to produce an animated film of Bitcoin, but will it be worthy of all or any of the bitcoin donations offered to produce a short anim?  Clarification on expectations are necessary.

Did you read this thread!?!

You might also notice we're not suffering an overabundance of movies..

Did you mean to link a different thread?  Your link refers to teh fourth page of this thread.
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August 29, 2010, 07:36:47 AM
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Did you mean to link a different thread?  Your link refers to teh fourth page of this thread.

I meant to link to the first page of this thread.
If you read the thread you will find what the requirements are.
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August 29, 2010, 09:17:39 AM
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I contacted the people from http://www.thinktwicenews.com/ to see if they would be interested in this bounty.Havent heard anything back but they need to find out more about bitcoin.

I posted in another thread http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=801.msg8969;topicseen#msg8969 an idea for a video game that would  walk a user through installing a client ,some of the back story of bitcoin and what it means in regards to banking/online payments and society.There are a lot of in-jokes with the story so if you use the idea you need to get the peoples permission!

The game is set sometime in the future and the main character is a mercenary soldier.A massive multinational payment company we will call payUpal has taken over all the worlds banks and online payment providers. :)There was a world depression and  the government had to bail them out and now they are called govpal lol.It is illegal for private citizens to own a computer and access the internet without government approved ID and the only way to buy things is using govpal.

You get hired by a company called "bitcoincorp" and your job is to break into a building where a company called "Knightmb corp" is located.
 "Knightmb corp" has possession of a thumb drive that contains a wallet with %50 of the worlds bitcoins in it which you need to secure before govpal finds and uses to take over their last remaining competitor.

This is where you start fighting your way to the building where you need to get to the basement and locate the secret area where the thumb drive is located,which had been hidden by someone before the building was evacuated by Govpal.There is a tablet computer which plays a movie which explains why the thumb drive needs to be protected and how to install and use a bitcoin client so that the wallet file on the thumb drive can be used by bitcoincorp.The person explaining is a japanese man we will call "satoshi".When your character verifies that he understands satoshi says "that is correct" lol.

You then fight your way to another building where you need to find a computer and install a bitcoin client to allow you to use the wallet file on the thumb drive.Along the way govpal finds out who you are and your mission and you get a call on your mobile which gives you the news that they have blown up your house and everything in it including your family.

After this you become determined to finish your mission by fighting your way across town to the location of a computer with internet access and a usb slot for the thumb drive.When you get there after many battles with govpal agents you sit down at the computer and download the bitcoin client which you install using the wallet file on the usb.Once this is done you are contacted by bitcoincorp who tell you where to find the person responsible for blowing up your house.You need to arm yourself up and this is where you go to the secret weapons stash.You get handguns and other basic weapons to start with.As the game goes along the player can buy upgrades and other items in  game using bitcoins  Cheesy

The rest of the game would be a series of encounters with govpal agents as you find clues to the location of the games big boss.


This could probably be modified to an animated movie
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