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February 05, 2015, 07:53:46 AM
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Be sure to join the new thread!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=945972

You can have this thread back.

I made my point.

I have better things to do than spend my time with a spreadcoin thread.    

People will make their own decisions.

I would wish you luck with your endeavor.  But I don't.





I will keep posting this question until one of you paranoid delusional freak's answer.

If i have two farms in the same building and point them both to the same miner... I'm i a pool operator?
What if farmers all over the world can point their rigs to the same pool ? Is that a pool or not ? Grin

This is not allowed on nonce pool. Its a closed, trusted group of friends.

Go try to mine on noncepool.
So technically,you must admit that spr no-pool feature is untitled.
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February 05, 2015, 08:11:39 AM
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Be sure to join the new thread!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=945972

You can have this thread back.

I made my point.

I have better things to do than spend my time with a spreadcoin thread.    

People will make their own decisions.

I would wish you luck with your endeavor.  But I don't.





I will keep posting this question until one of you paranoid delusional freak's answer.

If i have two farms in the same building and point them both to the same miner... I'm i a pool operator?
What if farmers all over the world can point their rigs to the same pool ? Is that a pool or not ? Grin

This is not allowed on nonce pool. Its a closed, trusted group of friends.

Go try to mine on noncepool.
So technically,you must admit that spr no-pool feature is untitled.

No

The "no-pool" feature disincentivizes pools by allowing miners to be able to steal other miners coins, ie (trusted people only!), not entitled?!.
This is a genius, simple solution to force people to mine solo.

Nowhere does it say "pool's are not allowed in the whitepaper"? And i was never under the impression that you couldn't set a "pool" up.

The thing is, the "pool" would have serious difficulties with security, and would be financially/economically nonviable.

Infact, the SPR community has a bounty for whomever can setup and successfully run a public pool for 30 days. I think the bounty is 3500SPR!
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February 05, 2015, 08:19:21 AM
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@spreadnode,I read some of the posts in the new thread,it's still full of lies to fool investors.
How about opening a new thread titled 'Some must-know TRUTH&LIES about Spreadcoin' ?
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February 05, 2015, 08:22:45 AM
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Be sure to join the new thread!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=945972

You can have this thread back.

I made my point.

I have better things to do than spend my time with a spreadcoin thread.   

People will make their own decisions.

I would wish you luck with your endeavor.  But I don't.





I will keep posting this question until one of you paranoid delusional freak's answer.

If i have two farms in the same building and point them both to the same miner... I'm i a pool operator?

Right. Solo mining can be called a private pool or mini pool. I can point my miners from different location to one wallet, and my friends if they want and we trust each other.

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February 05, 2015, 08:25:52 AM
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Be sure to join the new thread!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=945972

You can have this thread back.

I made my point.

I have better things to do than spend my time with a spreadcoin thread.   

People will make their own decisions.

I would wish you luck with your endeavor.  But I don't.





I will keep posting this question until one of you paranoid delusional freak's answer.

If i have two farms in the same building and point them both to the same miner... I'm i a pool operator?

Right. Solo mining can be called a private pool or mini pool. I can point my miners from different location to one wallet, and my friends if they want and we trust each other.



This does not make a public pool.
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February 05, 2015, 08:40:33 AM
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So technically,you must admit that spr no-pool feature is untitled.

No, there's no technical basis for your suggestion. I can see how you, a non-native English language speaker, may have picked up on other people being deliberately disingenuous but there's no dissembling or misrepresentation to be addressed. The obvious meaning is the correct one.

It is always possible to construct alternative semantic interpretations of statements in English and in this instance it's a matter of people deliberately choosing to misinterpret in order to disrupt the thread in pursuit of their own agenda.

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February 05, 2015, 08:44:14 AM
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If I have one card in my comp and mining local to my wallet, I mining in a let's say an "pool"  because I point my miner to a server (my wallet). So ... what is a definition for SOLO MINING? Spreadcoin is in fact a solo mining coin (depends of what is understanding everyone from solo mining). Public pool is another thing and SPR is not suitable for it.

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February 05, 2015, 09:02:30 AM
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If I have one card in my comp and mining local to my wallet, I mining in a let's say an "pool"  because I point my miner to a server (my wallet). So ... what is a definition for SOLO MINING? Spreadcoin is in fact a solo mining coin (depends of what is understanding everyone from solo mining). Public pool is another thing and SPR is not suitable for it.


Have you ever mined any other coin at MPOS pool like nonce-pool ?
If yes,then you'll find pool mining spr works as well as  you mine other alt coins.
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February 05, 2015, 09:11:27 AM
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Pools owners will setup SPR pools if is possible (to make money from fee), but an miner can steal an block found by himself and pool will run out of bussiness shortly. It's a lot of pool operators and they want to make money if is possible. spr.noce-pool have now 4 miners. I have more mining to my wallet ....

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February 05, 2015, 09:16:30 AM
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Pools owners will setup SPR pools if is possible (to make money from fee), but an miner can steal an block found by himself and pool will run out of bussiness shortly. It's a lot of pool operators and they want to make money if is possible. spr.noce-pool have now 4 miners. I have more mining to my wallet ....



That make's you a pool operator, using their logic.  Roll Eyes
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February 05, 2015, 10:07:17 AM
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That make's you a pool operator, using their logic.  Roll Eyes

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That makes you a pool operator according to their deliberately disingenuous definition.

It's FUD. There's no logic involved, only wilful misinterpretation. You can make it up --- and they do ... the Daily Mail does it all the time.

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February 05, 2015, 10:46:11 AM
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That make's you a pool operator, using their logic.  Roll Eyes

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That makes you a pool operator according to their deliberately disingenuous definition.

It's FUD. There's no logic involved, only wilful misinterpretation. You can make it up --- and they do ... the Daily Mail does it all the time.

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This thread is dead, i'm outta here.
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February 05, 2015, 10:52:29 AM
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That make's you a pool operator, using their logic.  Roll Eyes

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That makes you a pool operator according to their deliberately disingenuous definition.

It's FUD. There's no logic involved, only wilful misinterpretation. You can make it up --- and they do ... the Daily Mail does it all the time.

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From what I can tell, The Daily Mail exaggerate the truth.

That's what's going on here.

From what I can tell:

Q. Can SPR be pool mined?
A. Yes.

Q. Would it be advisable to pool mine SPR?
A. No. The pool can steal your money.

Q. Would it be advisable to pool mine with a trusted pool operator?
A. Possibly.

So the OP should be qualified. Pool mining is possible [I don't actually know that for certain yet], but it is discouraged because the pool gets to see information you should not show them.

We've had this before. All the multiplools hold on to your money and then they dump coins onto exchanges. Then they payout. You are never in control of your money until you get paid, and then you don't really know how much you are due.

You can try and belittle the view, but there seems to be some element of truth in what is being discussed. You may not like they way people are going about it, but you can't simply call them out as liars.

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February 05, 2015, 11:38:43 AM
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That make's you a pool operator, using their logic.  Roll Eyes

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That makes you a pool operator according to their deliberately disingenuous definition.

It's FUD. There's no logic involved, only wilful misinterpretation. You can make it up --- and they do ... the Daily Mail does it all the time.

Cheers

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From what I can tell, The Daily Mail exaggerate the truth.

That's what's going on here.

From what I can tell:

Q. Can SPR be pool mined?
A. Yes.

Q. Would it be advisable to pool mine SPR?
A. No. The pool can steal your money.

Q. Would it be advisable to pool mine with a trusted pool operator?
A. Possibly.

So the OP should be qualified. Pool mining is possible [I don't actually know that for certain yet], but it is discouraged because the pool gets to see information you should not show them.

We've had this before. All the multiplools hold on to your money and then they dump coins onto exchanges. Then they payout. You are never in control of your money until you get paid, and then you don't really know how much you are due.

You can try and belittle the view, but there seems to be some element of truth in what is being discussed. You may not like they way people are going about it, but you can't simply call them out as liars.

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+1 Well said.

Until somebody comes up with a multisig solution to public pool mining that is.
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February 05, 2015, 12:56:11 PM
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Be sure to join the new thread!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=945972
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February 05, 2015, 12:59:21 PM
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That make's you a pool operator, using their logic.  Roll Eyes

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That makes you a pool operator according to their deliberately disingenuous definition.

It's FUD. There's no logic involved, only wilful misinterpretation. You can make it up --- and they do ... the Daily Mail does it all the time.

Cheers

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From what I can tell, The Daily Mail exaggerate the truth.

That's what's going on here.

From what I can tell:

Q. Can SPR be pool mined?
A. Yes.

Q. Would it be advisable to pool mine SPR?
A. No. The pool can steal your money.

Q. Would it be advisable to pool mine with a trusted pool operator?
A. Possibly.

So the OP should be qualified. Pool mining is possible [I don't actually know that for certain yet], but it is discouraged because the pool gets to see information you should not show them.

We've had this before. All the multiplools hold on to your money and then they dump coins onto exchanges. Then they payout. You are never in control of your money until you get paid, and then you don't really know how much you are due.

You can try and belittle the view, but there seems to be some element of truth in what is being discussed. You may not like they way people are going about it, but you can't simply call them out as liars.

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February 05, 2015, 01:01:58 PM
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So the OP should be qualified

“No pools” is accurate enough to convey the main idea.

A simplistic view of how the world “should” work in the opinion of a pseudonymous poster is not a compelling reason to change the OP.

I've no idea where you get your “should” from, it's rather naively unrealistic in the context of a bitcointalk thread.

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February 05, 2015, 01:07:52 PM
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SPR is not bad,still not dead. Grin
But I am wondering when it will die,maybe it need to take months.

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February 05, 2015, 06:00:07 PM
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The solid proof of the existence of pools.  Wink

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February 05, 2015, 06:04:51 PM
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So I guess they won't be taking the (No Pools) out of the ANN.

It appears that the concept of a true solo only coin is appealing to many people.  Since spreadcoin obviously does not fall into that category, we are going to move forward towards that goal.  I am putting a roadmap together outlining the path towards that goal.  It won't be easy and it won't happen overnight but I am sure that with the help of those that have contacted me we will be able to achieve that goal.  

Spreadcoin and those behind it can continue to make false claims and move towards their masternode implementation designed to enrich a few large holders that are now making the decisions for spreadcoin.  It's unfortunate that they are so shortsighted that all they can see is short term profit.  I am of the belief that you can create something without false promises and if the product is good and does what it claims the rest will fall in place.

I'll be getting back to those of you that have contacted me in the near future.

Thanks for your support
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