#1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS since 2014 : KYC Rankings, Bonuses, Scam Accus

[T1HGO]

Vave.com is the best sportbook on crypto i dont understand why i can see it on list .
Big choice, alaways paid.
Original provider
No KYC

Vave is indeed a good site. However not for e-sports. The limits are absolutely atrocious. If you're into betting 30 bucks per bet, then it's good, otherwise, for e-sports, look somewhere else. For traditional sports is very good tho.

@Rating Place, have you tried 2up yet? So far, excluding that little incident i had with them, seems pretty good to me.

[Rating Place]

Vave.com is the best sportbook on crypto i dont understand why i can see it on list .
Big choice, alaways paid.
Original provider
No KYC

Vave is indeed a good site. However not for e-sports. The limits are absolutely atrocious. If you're into betting 30 bucks per bet, then it's good, otherwise, for e-sports, look somewhere else. For traditional sports is very good tho.

@Rating Place, have you tried 2up yet? So far, excluding that little incident i had with them, seems pretty good to me.

Thanks for the feedback. I'm way behind with the non rated casinos but will try them.

[CoffeeSipper64]

Vave.com is the best sportbook on crypto i dont understand why i can see it on list .
Big choice, alaways paid.
Original provider
No KYC

Vave is indeed a good site. However not for e-sports. The limits are absolutely atrocious. If you're into betting 30 bucks per bet, then it's good, otherwise, for e-sports, look somewhere else. For traditional sports is very good tho.

@Rating Place, have you tried 2up yet? So far, excluding that little incident i had with them, seems pretty good to me.

What are the limits for the normal sports? Basketball ,football , tennis for live and prematch events?

[T1HGO]

Vave.com is the best sportbook on crypto i dont understand why i can see it on list .
Big choice, alaways paid.
Original provider
No KYC

Vave is indeed a good site. However not for e-sports. The limits are absolutely atrocious. If you're into betting 30 bucks per bet, then it's good, otherwise, for e-sports, look somewhere else. For traditional sports is very good tho.

@Rating Place, have you tried 2up yet? So far, excluding that little incident i had with them, seems pretty good to me.

What are the limits for the normal sports? Basketball ,football , tennis for live and prematch events?

I was able to bet at least 300$ on football. So at least 300. It sucks it doesn't show the maxbet limits. There are better sites to bet on sports/e-sports tho. Still, vave is pretty okay.

[CoffeeSipper64]

if they allow 300 on medium level leagues on normal sports and are legit I would say its a pretty decent bargain.

[T1HGO]

if they allow 300 on medium level leagues on normal sports and are legit I would say its a pretty decent bargain.

Yeah, on normal sports the limits are acceptable, however their sportsbook have some flaws. For example, some games appear as pre-live, but then, they won't be available for live betting. I'm not sure how deep their markets go, and if they have enough low tier leagues. But yes, they pay.
However there are other books with way better limits, and way better markets tho. Personally, i like vave, but i don't use it anymore, simply because there are better books available.

[T1HGO]

@Rating place, hello. Can you please share with me the lore behind the bad reputation Thunderpick has in this forum? I am just curious on how scams like betpanda have a good reputation, while other legit casinos have a bad one. You already answered in another thread it's because shills protect it, and protect each other, in a big circlejerk. But looking at scam accusations against TP, i only found 3, and one of those was resolved with the accuser being paid after a lenghty KYC.

[MegaAkker]

I want to make 2 suggestions:
- Betplay.io definitely deserves a better rating than D.
- 2UP.io deserves a rating too....and for me minimal a C to start.

Keep up the good work!

[Coloma612]

KYC: 0=no KYC while 5=mandatory

This is a very useful scale, but I’m curious about the middle ground (2-3). Does a "3" mean KYC is triggered only by a specific withdrawal amount, or is it a random check that could happen to anyone regardless of the volume? Clarifying these triggers would be a huge help for those of us trying to stay as anonymous as possible

[Mar1a]

KYC: 0=no KYC while 5=mandatory

This table is a lifesaver for anyone looking to avoid sudden "KYC traps." Just a quick clarification on your scoring: do you give a "0" only to pure decentralized platforms like Bitcoin Betting, or can a Curacao-based bookie get a "0" if they don't trigger KYC on small withdrawals? It would be great to know if these ratings are based on your personal tests or community reports

[Rating Place]

@T1HGO Let me take another look at Thunderpick. They have been around since 2022 so there is a lot of history. On another note I tried adding the 5 Betby books but it didn't post correctly. I'll keep trying.

@MegaAkker I'll look again at those 2 since there doesn't seem to be many complaints. Appreciate the input.

@Coloma612 You're exactly right on 2 and 3 KYC ranking. KYC does get triggered on high withdrawal amounts on that type of rating.

@Mar1a yes, the only "0" will go to true decentralized. Many claim to be decentralized but they really aren't. It's the same with many claiming anonymous and no KYC. Most of the time this isn't the case.

[Haunebu]

Just checked the ranking list again after a while and I do agree with most of them, but I was surprised to see big players like Polymarket and Kalshi missing from the table. Their liquidities are far higher than bitcoin-betting or fairlay and KYC is not required at all.

I suggest adding them possibly to the highest tier asap. Look into betting brokers like Sportmarket etc too which are quite useful in countries where Betfair and Pinnacle are restricted.

[Masinisa]

KYC: 0=no KYC while 5=mandatory

This is a very comprehensive list, thanks for keeping it updated. I noticed a significant gap between your internal ratings and TrustPilot scores for some platforms, like Stake or Cloudbet. Do you weigh community reports from Bitcointalk more heavily than external review sites when deciding on the final letter grade? Also, regarding the KYC "0" for decentralized books — does that imply they are 100% anonymous even for large withdrawals, or just that they don't have a mandatory sign-up KYC?

[Rating Place]

Just checked the ranking list again after a while and I do agree with most of them, but I was surprised to see big players like Polymarket and Kalshi missing from the table. Their liquidities are far higher than bitcoin-betting or fairlay and KYC is not required at all.

I suggest adding them possibly to the highest tier asap. Look into betting brokers like Sportmarket etc too which are quite useful in countries where Betfair and Pinnacle are restricted.

Nice additions! I agree both are great and both are gaining market share. I put them under prediction markets.

KYC: 0=no KYC while 5=mandatory

This is a very comprehensive list, thanks for keeping it updated. I noticed a significant gap between your internal ratings and TrustPilot scores for some platforms, like Stake or Cloudbet. Do you weigh community reports from Bitcointalk more heavily than external review sites when deciding on the final letter grade? Also, regarding the KYC "0" for decentralized books — does that imply they are 100% anonymous even for large withdrawals, or just that they don't have a mandatory sign-up KYC?

You're right in that I weighed bitcointalk heavier than TrustPilot. TrustPilot ratings are manipulated by some. For the KYC ratings, right now the only one listed "0" is Bitcoin-Betting and they are 100% anonymous even on large withdrawals.

[T1HGO]

@Rating Place, a few months ago i posted my own personal tier list. And based on our lists, we might disagree when it comes to rating some casinos. And that is perfectly normal as personal experiences may vary. So, i will make a suggestion to your list if you allow me.

Create either a scam tier, or at least put the scam casinos at D- and raise everybody else. Seeing current nitrobetting and bc.game in the same tier as thunderpick, betplay, or crashino is just not right. Might aswell add betpanda to that tier while at it.

[T1HGO]

Sorry for double posting.

@Rating Place, need some advice here. I currently have an withdrawal pending at weiss. It's been over 50 hours as of the time i am writing this, and support just tells me to be patient.
Where do you think i should draw the line here? How much time is it acceptable to wait before i go public with this?

[Rating Place]

Sorry for double posting.

@Rating Place, need some advice here. I currently have an withdrawal pending at weiss. It's been over 50 hours as of the time i am writing this, and support just tells me to be patient.
Where do you think i should draw the line here? How much time is it acceptable to wait before i go public with this?

Shoot me a PM with username saying that I have your permission to view and discuss your account. I'll contact them.

I'm going over all books this week to update ratings.

[T1HGO]

Sorry for double posting.

@Rating Place, need some advice here. I currently have an withdrawal pending at weiss. It's been over 50 hours as of the time i am writing this, and support just tells me to be patient.
Where do you think i should draw the line here? How much time is it acceptable to wait before i go public with this?

Shoot me a PM with username saying that I have your permission to view and discuss your account. I'll contact them.

I'm going over all books this week to update ratings.

Sent

[Rating Place]

Sorry for double posting.

@Rating Place, need some advice here. I currently have an withdrawal pending at weiss. It's been over 50 hours as of the time i am writing this, and support just tells me to be patient.
Where do you think i should draw the line here? How much time is it acceptable to wait before i go public with this?

Shoot me a PM with username saying that I have your permission to view and discuss your account. I'll contact them.

I'm going over all books this week to update ratings.

Sent

I have them rated very low. This will be a good test. I'll let you know when they get back. For the D rated books, check post 1.

[T1HGO]

Sorry for double posting.

@Rating Place, need some advice here. I currently have an withdrawal pending at weiss. It's been over 50 hours as of the time i am writing this, and support just tells me to be patient.
Where do you think i should draw the line here? How much time is it acceptable to wait before i go public with this?

Shoot me a PM with username saying that I have your permission to view and discuss your account. I'll contact them.

I'm going over all books this week to update ratings.

Can't wait to see how the updated ratings will look like!