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August 28, 2023, 07:07:00 PM
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No rating guide has Sportsbet rated ahead of Nitrobetting and Betcoin.

You sure about that?

Sportsbet 8.7
https://casino.guru/sportsbet-io-casino-review

Nitrobetting 6.5
https://casino.guru/nitrobetting-casino-review

CasinoGuru is more legit than all those "guides" you've mentioned combined.
It is no wonder no one takes your ratings seriously.

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August 28, 2023, 07:09:40 PM
Last edit: August 28, 2023, 07:30:52 PM by Peeps Place
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No rating guide has Sportsbet rated ahead of Nitrobetting and Betcoin.

You sure about that?

Sportsbet 8.7
https://casino.guru/sportsbet-io-casino-review

Nitrobetting 6.5
https://casino.guru/nitrobetting-casino-review

CasinoGuru is more legit than all those "guides" you've mentioned combined.
It is no wonder no one takes your ratings seriously.

Those are casino guides. The ratings here are for sports wagering only. I don't think they have a presence here. BTCGosu is popular here. They rank Stake #17. There are 253,000 views in this thread. There's a reason people check in. It's one of the most viewed threads in the gambling section. No "A" or "B" book has ever stiffed players. Some books dropped out of the A-B section and warnings were given prior to the book leaving.

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August 28, 2023, 07:22:51 PM
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There are 253,000 views in this thread.

Yes you keep saying that, bro.

We all know you have the oldest thread.
That doesn't mean it's the most accurate, as myself and others have already demonstrated.

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August 28, 2023, 07:24:57 PM
Last edit: September 11, 2023, 01:31:36 AM by mprep
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There are 253,000 views in this thread.

Yes you keep saying that, bro.

We all know you have the oldest thread.
That doesn't mean it's the most accurate, as myself and others have already demonstrated.

Then look at the ratings of the other guides. They have Nitrobetting and Betcoin #1 and #2. I'm not perfect, the ratings may not be perfect, but it's not from a lack of research.

Here are some things that can be considered of the top rated books. Things that all books don't have:

Nitrobetting
1. Sports bonus. Most casinos only have bonuses for casinos.
2. Sports rebate for the NFL.
3. Poker
4. Horse racing, harness and greyhound.
5. No KYC if you don't use a VPN.
6. Great odds.
7. All sportsbook rating sites with a presence at bitcointalk such as cryptogamingrevu and 100bookies have Nitrobetting 1 or 2. The same with threads by posters although old. Listed as "other sources" first page.
8. Rebates for horse racing.
9. Games that don't exist at other books such as Survivor Pools.
10. No scam accusations in all of 2023.
11. The oldest sportsbook still in business.

Betcoin
1. Betcoin is the safest book out of all because they agree to third party arbitration and let the player pick the arbiter.
2. No KYC if you aren't using a VPN. Whenever they have done KYC they agree to arbitration and have won every case.
3. Two books in one.
4. The most modern book of all. They have the legacy version for those that like things simple. Then there is the new version with all the bells and whistles.
5. Social gaming with PBR coin.
6. Sports jackpot worth over $25k now USD.
7. All sportsbook rating sites with a presence at bitcointalk such as cryptogamingrevu and 100bookies have Betcoin 1 or 2. The same with threads by posters although old. Listed as "other sources" first page. The same can be said about the other "A" book Nitrobetting.
8. They are consistently improving with site updates. They just added a new addition https://new.betcoin.ag/.
9. They have horse racing, harness and greyhound.


This contains every thread where sportsbooks were rated past and present:

Other sources:

Current rating guide by cryptogamingrevu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5419723.0 https://cryptogamingrevu.com/
Current rating guide by 100bookies https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5158369.0 https://100bookies.com/cryptocurrency-sportsbooks-eng/
Ratings by Bitedge https://bitedge.com/crypto-sportsbook-reviews/#top-crypto-sportsbooks
Old rating thread by RyanK https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577102.0
Old rating thread by Frue Greeds https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1820529.0
Withdrawal fees by Pmalek https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5333602.0
Licences  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5381143.0

Here are the other reasons to look outside of ratings. The year the book opened, the country they are located in, promos of the book, support to contact the book and their ANN thread. The intent was to make it easy and less time consuming for players to find a book's information.



Why is sportsbet on C list? I was using them few years ago like a charm  Huh

This was the review two years ago.

Sportsbet.io rating and review.

Opened: 2016
License: Curacao 1668/JAZ sub-license.
Currencies: Crypto and Fiat.
Banned countries: USA, UK, Australia, Estonia, Netherlands, Belgium, France, Germany, Afghanistan, Korea, Iran, Iraq, Myanmar, Trinidad and Tobago, Yemen.

Sportsbet is a big book with sponsorships of major soccer clubs. There are many betting options both pregame and live. Sportsbet is very popular here at bitcointalk.

The betting margins at Sportsbet are high. You won't find the best line on either side. There have been many complaints against Sportsbet but that comes with the territory of any good sized sportsbook. Most of the time that comes from disgruntled players but there may have been times where Sportsbet was incorrect. Many complaints have been posted where it was a he said, she said situation. A sportsbook needs to have solid proof of any infractions claimed. There are times when Sportsbet has provided no proof which makes it difficult to determine right or wrong. Sportsbet has confiscated both deposits and winnings. At other times they have just confiscated deposits. KYC has been asked for before these confiscations. Playing from a banned country will lead to a confiscation.

There are some other worrisome things concerning Sportsbet. It's a normal practice to require a one time rollover on deposits but Sportsbet has a rule of a 5x rollover if they suspect money laundering. If an account is inactive for 3 months, Sportsbet will send out a letter informing the player. One month after the letter, Sportsbet can charge a fee of 15% per month fee for administrative costs. In one section it states that Sportsbet may confiscate the balance after 180 days of inactivity. In another section it states one year. I don't know if the rules above have been invoked.

For the purposes of ratings, "A" and "B" books are recommended. There normally isn't any problems playing at a "C" book. "D" and "F" books should be avoided at all costs.

Sportsbet opens with a rating of "C".

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August 28, 2023, 09:39:13 PM
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sportsbet and betcoin are scam rubbish.fraudulent rules unequal conditions. limit for competent players. only cei imada recruiting losing players. lack of a working regulator. rating - garbage Cheesy
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August 28, 2023, 09:51:11 PM
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sportsbet and betcoin are scam rubbish.fraudulent rules unequal conditions. limit for competent players. only cei imada recruiting losing players. lack of a working regulator. rating - garbage Cheesy
I'm with you in hating when they put you on a limit. If you get limited at one Betcoin book, try the other since there will be different limits with the Legacy book. Odds provider setting the limits.

You're another poster that I read a lot because I spend time reading scam accusations and I see you in there now and then. Also, you write about scams in the gambling section.
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August 28, 2023, 10:27:37 PM
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The betting margins at Sportsbet are high. You won't find the best line on either side.
You are such a liar

Sportsbet (odds are even better with Price Boost)


Nitrobetting


Odds were captured at the exact same time

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August 28, 2023, 11:31:21 PM
Last edit: August 29, 2023, 12:01:36 AM by Peeps Place
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The betting margins at Sportsbet are high. You won't find the best line on either side.
You are such a liar
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Odds were captured at the exact same time

What you want to do is look at the lines at all the books at the same time. You'll find the very best line on one side at Nitrobetting. I'm not sure of the reason. The lines may be opinionated or move on action. You want to look at just one side of each game.

In your example taking u2.5 1.93 at Nitrogen may be the best you can get at all books.


Look at the spreads/HCP and totals of the two books. The lines at Sportsbet are unplayable if you odds search and the margins are the greatest in some markets. It's impossible to beat a book putting up vanilla numbers. Sportbet is a 1.9 book while Nitrobetting is 1.935 in the NFL sides and total.





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August 29, 2023, 12:00:57 AM
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The betting margins at Sportsbet are high. You won't find the best line on either side.
I'm just quoting what you said which, again, is 100% not true.
You can play on your words all you want as it is your thread.
But you are not doing this community any service with your vagueness and inaccurate statements.

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August 29, 2023, 12:04:11 AM
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The betting margins at Sportsbet are high. You won't find the best line on either side.
I'm just quoting what you said which, again, is 100% not true.
You can play on your words all you want as it is your thread.
But you are not doing this community any service with your vagueness and inaccurate statements.

My statement is accurate. You will never find the best line on either side at Sportsbet. That's if you look at all the crypto books. To clarify, it's impossible to beat Sportsbet long term because of the vanilla lines and margins. You can beat both Nitrobetting and Betcoin. Give yourself a chance to win money.
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August 29, 2023, 12:21:24 AM
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My statement is accurate. You will never find the best line on either side at Sportsbet.
What about FIBA Basketball World Cup?
Look at all that wasted juice and inflated moneylines on Nicrobetting.  Shocked
This is the last I will point out your blatant inaccuracies as clearly you have an agenda.




Odds were captured at the exact same time

The betting margins at Sportsbet are high. You won't find the best line on either side.

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August 29, 2023, 12:24:24 AM
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My statement is accurate. You will never find the best line on either side at Sportsbet.
What about FIBA Basketball World Cup?
Look at all that wasted juice and inflated moneylines on Nicrobetting.  Shocked
This is the last I will point out your blatant inaccuracies as clearly you have an agenda.
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There are no inaccuracies. I definitely wouldn't use Nitrobetting in some markets. I wouldn't use Sportsbet in any market. You will never find the best line. Look at more books.
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There are no inaccuracies. I definitely wouldn't use Nitrobetting in some markets. I wouldn't use Sportsbet in any markets.
Ok, but you literally just said

The betting margins at Sportsbet are high. You won't find the best line on either side.

Which as I have now proven, again, is 100% false and misleading.

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Last edit: August 29, 2023, 05:18:54 AM by Peeps Place
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There are no inaccuracies. I definitely wouldn't use Nitrobetting in some markets. I wouldn't use Sportsbet in any markets.
Ok, but you literally just said

The betting margins at Sportsbet are high. You won't find the best line on either side.

Which as I have now proven, again, is 100% false and misleading.

jeremy, look at 5 sportsbooks at once. You will never find a line where Sportsbet is the best. That's been my experience since I line shop. Nothing is misleading. Feel free to post your reasons for Sportsbet so both sides can be seen. I don't want to just post negatively about Sportsbet.


I'll post this again as some reasons for an "A" rating.

Nitrobetting
1. Sports bonus. Most casinos only have bonuses for casinos.
2. Sports rebate for the NFL.
3. Poker
4. Horse racing, harness and greyhound.
5. No KYC if you don't use a VPN.
6. Great odds.
7. All sportsbook rating sites with a presence at bitcointalk such as cryptogamingrevu and 100bookies have Nitrobetting 1 or 2. The same with threads by posters although old. Listed as "other sources" first page.
8. Rebates for horse racing.
9. Games that don't exist at other books such as Survivor Pools.
10. No scam accusations in all of 2023.
11. The oldest sportsbook still in business.

Betcoin
1. Betcoin is the safest book out of all because they agree to third party arbitration and let the player pick the arbiter.
2. No KYC if you aren't using a VPN. Whenever they have done KYC they agree to arbitration and have won every case.
3. Two books in one.
4. The most modern book of all. They have the legacy version for those that like things simple. Then there is the new version with all the bells and whistles.
5. Social gaming with PBR coin.
6. Sports jackpot worth over $25k now USD.
7. All sportsbook rating sites with a presence at bitcointalk such as cryptogamingrevu and 100bookies have Betcoin 1 or 2. The same with threads by posters although old. Listed as "other sources" first page. The same can be said about the other "A" book Nitrobetting.
8. They are consistently improving with site updates. They just added a new addition https://new.betcoin.ag/.
9. They have horse racing, harness and greyhound.
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August 29, 2023, 03:27:52 PM
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There is heavy advertising here for Stake. Many signatures are Stake's. This isn't to say that Stake is a bad book, it just says that advertising is heavy here.
I wouldn't pay that much attention to advertisement and signature campaigns when determining the quality of a casino or a sportsbook. Besides, I don't like the way Stake and their people run the signature campaign on Bitcointalk. Anyone who spends a lot of time on this forum and knows its most quality members will realize that none of them are in Stake's campaign. A more professional campaign manager would have enabled better weekly pay rates and attention to quality and not quantity of posts like it is now.

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August 29, 2023, 07:01:17 PM
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There is heavy advertising here for Stake. Many signatures are Stake's. This isn't to say that Stake is a bad book, it just says that advertising is heavy here.
I wouldn't pay that much attention to advertisement and signature campaigns when determining the quality of a casino or a sportsbook. Besides, I don't like the way Stake and their people run the signature campaign on Bitcointalk. Anyone who spends a lot of time on this forum and knows its most quality members will realize that none of them are in Stake's campaign. A more professional campaign manager would have enabled better weekly pay rates and attention to quality and not quantity of posts like it is now.
That’s interesting to know and I didn’t realize it but now it makes sense. In many of the Stake threads, posters with Stake signatures keep repeating what another Stake person just said.
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August 30, 2023, 03:51:07 PM
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That’s interesting to know and I didn’t realize it but now it makes sense. In many of the Stake threads, posters with Stake signatures keep repeating what another Stake person just said.
Yeah, that's a problem you can see with low-quality members irrespective of which campaign they participate in if there is no proper quality control. As you know, Stake has a big budget for advertising, and it seems like visibility has priority over quality. Despite that, the quality (or lack of it) of a signature campaign can't be used to assess the quality of said casino. Not many people that I know have had issues with Stake.   

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August 30, 2023, 04:42:30 PM
 #4098

That’s interesting to know and I didn’t realize it but now it makes sense. In many of the Stake threads, posters with Stake signatures keep repeating what another Stake person just said.
Yeah, that's a problem you can see with low-quality members irrespective of which campaign they participate in if there is no proper quality control. As you know, Stake has a big budget for advertising, and it seems like visibility has priority over quality. Despite that, the quality (or lack of it) of a signature campaign can't be used to assess the quality of said casino. Not many people that I know have had issues with Stake.   

I agree and definitely don't consider advertising when ranking a book. Stake's still one of the top books. My only concern with them is their KYC policy. I don't think there's anything nefarious with their KYC policies but their KYC checks have to be done much faster. A few more long holds will lead to a drop.
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August 30, 2023, 04:54:27 PM
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I am slightly confused why the link isn't clickable in your post, but now when I quoted it, it changes to a clickable link.
I'm wondering what is the issue here. It works as a link when we put it in the quote. But it doesn't work as a link when the post is made.

In many of the Stake threads, posters with Stake signatures keep repeating what another Stake person just said.
~snip~ and it seems like visibility has priority over quality. Despite that, the quality (or lack of it) of a signature campaign can't be used to assess the quality of said casino. Not many people that I know have had issues with Stake.  
Yep, we shouldn't judge a casino by the post quality of the signature participants. Stake main goal is to get more visibility in the forum. They are already very popular in the crypto gambling world with a lot of players. BTW, Stake has also hired some reputable forum members (maybe privately) to wear their signature.

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August 30, 2023, 05:00:26 PM
Last edit: August 30, 2023, 06:25:15 PM by Peeps Place
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I am slightly confused why the link isn't clickable in your post, but now when I quoted it, it changes to a clickable link.
I'm wondering what is the issue here. It works as a link when we put it in the quote. But it doesn't work as a link when the post is made.

In many of the Stake threads, posters with Stake signatures keep repeating what another Stake person just said.
~snip~ and it seems like visibility has priority over quality. Despite that, the quality (or lack of it) of a signature campaign can't be used to assess the quality of said casino. Not many people that I know have had issues with Stake.  
Yep, we shouldn't judge a casino by the post quality of the signature participants. Stake main goal is to get more visibility in the forum. They are already very popular in the crypto gambling world with a lot of players. BTW, Stake has also hired some reputable forum members (maybe privately) to wear their signature.

I fixed the link problem on page 1. Your thread is another great source. Keep an eye on Curacao books since licensing rules are changing. They are going away from the 4 master license system and now each book will need it's own license, no more sub-licenses.

Licences by Mahdirakib  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5381143.0

Withdrawal fees by Pmalek https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5333602.0

On another note for all, feel free to post about any upcoming NFL promos or contests. The season starts in a little more than one week.
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