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Author Topic: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS since 2014 : KYC Rankings, Bonuses, Scam Accus  (Read 258233 times)
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January 07, 2023, 04:30:27 AM
Last edit: January 07, 2023, 04:42:27 AM by GekkeBelg
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Betop.gg has been offline for over half a year too

Btw it's funny that anonymbet.co have in their terms listed that any acocunt must be verified with KYC withing 30 days of registering....then why choose this website name? Tongue
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@Peeps Place What criteria are used to rank? How do you rank based on criteria?
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January 08, 2023, 10:44:15 PM
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Guys, is bc.game paying or not?
For some reason I don't have a rating on bc.game. Did they just recently add a sportsbook?



betcoin.ag and playbetr.com look like the same book. Exactly the same user interface, odds and info. Or are they two different companies using the same software?

Great work on keeping this site up and up to date. Very valuable.

PowerBet.io still owes me 3 Bitcoins! Ouch! Bitcoin was only worth about $1,000 when they took our money and closed up shop and ran.     

Thanks Barnstorm. Sorry to hear about the 3 bitcoins, ouch!

Betcoin and Playbetr are sister books. The difference is that Betcoin accepts those in the United States. One nice thing about these books is that they are actually 3 books in 1. You have a choice of picking different lines and limits.

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BC.game have had a Sportsbook for about a year already. And yes, they pay. Excellent casino/sportsbook.
I just realized that bc.game accepts fiat which is why they are omitted from the list.

If that is the criteria, then why is Anonymbet on the list? They have only fiat accounts too.
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January 09, 2023, 05:29:42 AM
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Betop.gg has been offline for over half a year too

Btw it's funny that anonymbet.co have in their terms listed that any acocunt must be verified with KYC withing 30 days of registering....then why choose this website name? Tongue

Anonymbet isn't listed but Anonibet is listed. Definitely strange why they are so misleading with KYC. Thanks for the info on Betop.

@Peeps Place What criteria are used to rank? How do you rank based on criteria?


Criteria used to rate a book.

1. Security - getting paid is by far most important.

2. Working with the forum. This is a player's thread and books are held responsible for their actions. Questions are asked of books concerning number of employees, time in business, experience, poster problems, etc. If a book is going to ignore a player's thread, they will be severely downgraded. Most books are very easy to work with.

The following cannot be quantified as to importance since being highly detrimental in one category may supersede other criteria used.

3. Poster review - poster review is much more important at bitcointalk than other forums, but other forums are also read. A high review from a new book will weigh less than the review of a book that's been in existence 2+ years.

4. Anonymous - one of the reasons that bitcoin books are used is to stay anonymous. There may be times where it is necessary to question players but it should be a minimum.

5. Margins - If players are going to have a chance to beat a book the margins have to be tight enough to give us that chance. If the margins are larger than -110 (1.91) that's a big blow to a book's rating.

6. Payout speed - If the average is longer than one hour, a book will be downgraded. One hour is sufficient due to possible grading errors. A large book is dealing with a significant amount of money along with a huge player base.

7. Markets - The more betting options, the better.

8. Traffic  - time in business along with amount of players that a book has gives us a large sample size.

9. Currencies used - It's easier on the player if we are allowed to deposit and withdraw from alts.

Miscellaneous - Books accepting fiat currencies are omitted from the guide. Other forums are read to make sure the ratings here aren't significantly out of line with the average of other books.


Add Bookmaker.xyz to NR

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January 10, 2023, 10:26:50 PM
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Betop.gg has been offline for over half a year too

Btw it's funny that anonymbet.co have in their terms listed that any acocunt must be verified with KYC withing 30 days of registering....then why choose this website name? Tongue

Anonymbet isn't listed but Anonibet is listed. Definitely strange why they are so misleading with KYC. Thanks for the info on Betop.

@Peeps Place What criteria are used to rank? How do you rank based on criteria?


Criteria used to rate a book.

1. Security - getting paid is by far most important.

2. Working with the forum. This is a player's thread and books are held responsible for their actions. Questions are asked of books concerning number of employees, time in business, experience, poster problems, etc. If a book is going to ignore a player's thread, they will be severely downgraded. Most books are very easy to work with.

The following cannot be quantified as to importance since being highly detrimental in one category may supersede other criteria used.

3. Poster review - poster review is much more important at bitcointalk than other forums, but other forums are also read. A high review from a new book will weigh less than the review of a book that's been in existence 2+ years.

4. Anonymous - one of the reasons that bitcoin books are used is to stay anonymous. There may be times where it is necessary to question players but it should be a minimum.

5. Margins - If players are going to have a chance to beat a book the margins have to be tight enough to give us that chance. If the margins are larger than -110 (1.91) that's a big blow to a book's rating.

6. Payout speed - If the average is longer than one hour, a book will be downgraded. One hour is sufficient due to possible grading errors. A large book is dealing with a significant amount of money along with a huge player base.

7. Markets - The more betting options, the better.

8. Traffic  - time in business along with amount of players that a book has gives us a large sample size.

9. Currencies used - It's easier on the player if we are allowed to deposit and withdraw from alts.

Miscellaneous - Books accepting fiat currencies are omitted from the guide. Other forums are read to make sure the ratings here aren't significantly out of line with the average of other books.


Add Bookmaker.xyz to NR


you clearly have anonymbet.co listed among your D-listed bookies.
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January 11, 2023, 04:40:21 AM
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Betop.gg has been offline for over half a year too

Btw it's funny that anonymbet.co have in their terms listed that any acocunt must be verified with KYC withing 30 days of registering....then why choose this website name? Tongue

Anonymbet isn't listed but Anonibet is listed. Definitely strange why they are so misleading with KYC. Thanks for the info on Betop.

@Peeps Place What criteria are used to rank? How do you rank based on criteria?


Criteria used to rate a book.

1. Security - getting paid is by far most important.

2. Working with the forum. This is a player's thread and books are held responsible for their actions. Questions are asked of books concerning number of employees, time in business, experience, poster problems, etc. If a book is going to ignore a player's thread, they will be severely downgraded. Most books are very easy to work with.

The following cannot be quantified as to importance since being highly detrimental in one category may supersede other criteria used.

3. Poster review - poster review is much more important at bitcointalk than other forums, but other forums are also read. A high review from a new book will weigh less than the review of a book that's been in existence 2+ years.

4. Anonymous - one of the reasons that bitcoin books are used is to stay anonymous. There may be times where it is necessary to question players but it should be a minimum.

5. Margins - If players are going to have a chance to beat a book the margins have to be tight enough to give us that chance. If the margins are larger than -110 (1.91) that's a big blow to a book's rating.

6. Payout speed - If the average is longer than one hour, a book will be downgraded. One hour is sufficient due to possible grading errors. A large book is dealing with a significant amount of money along with a huge player base.

7. Markets - The more betting options, the better.

8. Traffic  - time in business along with amount of players that a book has gives us a large sample size.

9. Currencies used - It's easier on the player if we are allowed to deposit and withdraw from alts.

Miscellaneous - Books accepting fiat currencies are omitted from the guide. Other forums are read to make sure the ratings here aren't significantly out of line with the average of other books.


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you clearly have anonymbet.co listed among your D-listed bookies.
You're right. They've been deleted.

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January 12, 2023, 03:12:18 AM
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You also have Acedbets and Betop listed among the D-rated. Those two are gone for over half a year already.
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January 12, 2023, 05:52:41 AM
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You also have Acedbets and Betop listed among the D-rated. Those two are gone for over half a year already.

It looks like those are moved. The updated list is on the first page. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.0

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January 12, 2023, 10:06:56 AM
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betcoin.ag and playbetr.com look like the same book. Exactly the same user interface, odds and info. Or are they two different companies using the same software?

Great work on keeping this site up and up to date. Very valuable.

PowerBet.io still owes me 3 Bitcoins! Ouch! Bitcoin was only worth about $1,000 when they took our money and closed up shop and ran.      

Regarding BC.game, my first thought was rather positive, they offer a wheel spin per day, you have some boosted odds, the welcome bonus is attractive, interface is great. After maybe 1 or 2 months on this platform (mostly on sportsbook), I am a bit disappointed. After the first days, the spin reward is always the same  every day (the smaller one) ,  and after maybe 80 bets I have been limited in my stakes (~0.004 mBtc per bet). I guess that each time you bet on certain markets, you are flagged wrongly as a cheater (I know that they are not the only ones in this case). To get the full bonus reward, I think it is nearly impossible, the rollover is so high, they assume that you will lose everything before.
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January 13, 2023, 09:55:21 AM
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https://888starz.bet/

A sub-site of 1xbet and a real scumbag of a bookie.

I place a lot of valuebets, of which there are always plenty at this book, because they have no clue on how to set the odds.
After 60 odd bets they were onto me and decided to give me odds way below the normal offer.

https://i.imgur.com/t0ennJA.png

The image shows an example of the odds on offer when you go to the site, and then the odds after I login lolz.

No problems, this is pretty standard for crappy books like this outfit. They don't want serious bettors for clientele.

The scummy part is that they wont let me withdraw my deposit because I haven't turned it over once. So they don't want me as a customer, but they do want me to complete the turnover at the criminal odds on offer. Absolutely atrocious.
Customer support is awful as well. you never get any answer to any sort of question, just retarded copy-paste responses that don't address anything you ask about.

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January 13, 2023, 02:18:32 PM
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Can't believe a thread like is maintained for almost 9 years.  I have a few things to say though,

1- I don't know stake is given "B" when they have the biggest limits in sports betting and even influencers like Drake who bet on NBA there.

2- Sportsbet.io should be "B" instead of "C" according to me because they have a nice spotsbook with lots of bonuses and promotions.

Bitsler has improved a lot lately and even introduced cash-outs on betting so maybe they can be upgraded to "B".

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January 14, 2023, 05:52:56 AM
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betcoin.ag and playbetr.com look like the same book. Exactly the same user interface, odds and info. Or are they two different companies using the same software?

Great work on keeping this site up and up to date. Very valuable.

PowerBet.io still owes me 3 Bitcoins! Ouch! Bitcoin was only worth about $1,000 when they took our money and closed up shop and ran.      

Regarding BC.game, my first thought was rather positive, they offer a wheel spin per day, you have some boosted odds, the welcome bonus is attractive, interface is great. After maybe 1 or 2 months on this platform (mostly on sportsbook), I am a bit disappointed. After the first days, the spin reward is always the same  every day (the smaller one) ,  and after maybe 80 bets I have been limited in my stakes (~0.004 mBtc per bet). I guess that each time you bet on certain markets, you are flagged wrongly as a cheater (I know that they are not the only ones in this case). To get the full bonus reward, I think it is nearly impossible, the rollover is so high, they assume that you will lose everything before.

That's crazy lowering the stakes that much. Almost a bait and switch since the rollover is so tough to meet.


https://888starz.bet/

A sub-site of 1xbet and a real scumbag of a bookie.

I place a lot of valuebets, of which there are always plenty at this book, because they have no clue on how to set the odds.
After 60 odd bets they were onto me and decided to give me odds way below the normal offer.



The image shows an example of the odds on offer when you go to the site, and then the odds after I login lolz.

No problems, this is pretty standard for crappy books like this outfit. They don't want serious bettors for clientele.

The scummy part is that they wont let me withdraw my deposit because I haven't turned it over once. So they don't want me as a customer, but they do want me to complete the turnover at the criminal odds on offer. Absolutely atrocious.
Customer support is awful as well. you never get any answer to any sort of question, just retarded copy-paste responses that don't address anything you ask about.



Same happened to me. Luckily I was paid but I got a second set of lines.


Can't believe a thread like is maintained for almost 9 years.  I have a few things to say though,

1- I don't know stake is given "B" when they have the biggest limits in sports betting and even influencers like Drake who bet on NBA there.

2- Sportsbet.io should be "B" instead of "C" according to me because they have a nice spotsbook with lots of bonuses and promotions.

Bitsler has improved a lot lately and even introduced cash-outs on betting so maybe they can be upgraded to "B".

I was going to do some upgrades and downgrades after the World Cup but extended it to the Super Bowl. We've seen a lot of books come and go these past 9 years and want to make sure everyone gets paid after the Super Bowl.




Thanks to all for their input and helping to make this a one stop shop where we can discuss all books to get opinions from everyone.

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January 14, 2023, 08:31:29 AM
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https://888starz.bet/

A sub-site of 1xbet and a real scumbag of a bookie.

I place a lot of valuebets, of which there are always plenty at this book, because they have no clue on how to set the odds.
After 60 odd bets they were onto me and decided to give me odds way below the normal offer.



The image shows an example of the odds on offer when you go to the site, and then the odds after I login lolz.

No problems, this is pretty standard for crappy books like this outfit. They don't want serious bettors for clientele.

The scummy part is that they wont let me withdraw my deposit because I haven't turned it over once. So they don't want me as a customer, but they do want me to complete the turnover at the criminal odds on offer. Absolutely atrocious.
Customer support is awful as well. you never get any answer to any sort of question, just retarded copy-paste responses that don't address anything you ask about.



Just wager it on roulette or blackjack then. Then you will lose less than with their shit sport odds.
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January 14, 2023, 03:10:08 PM
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Guys, is bc.game paying or not?
Not promoting them nor recommending you to play there but they have actually developed into a decent casino lately. They have almost matched stake in terms of bonuses monthly and weekly (they send on Friday I think as opposed to stake's Saturday)

The only thing I don't like at bc game is their sportsbook which is quite shitty in both the layout and the functioning. You have to refresh every 20 mins else it says timed out when you place a bet. Their odds provider is shit as well because when the odds went up they accept the bet on the same odds and if the odds go down they just reject the bet which is lowkey scammy.

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January 18, 2023, 05:58:15 AM
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"A" rated books

nitrobetting.eu A+ (2013 Nitrogensports)
betcoin.ag A+ (2013)    
playbetr.com A- (2019)        

"B"rated books
mBet.io B (2017) Horse racing..
stake.com B- (2019) sportsbook, (2014) casino.

"C" rated books
Bitsler.com C+ (2015)
fortunejack.com C+ (2019) sportsbook, (2014) casino.
anonibet.com  C (2011)
sportsbet.io  C (2016)
cloudbet.com C (2013)
Bitgame.com C- (2015)    
Loot.bet  C- (2016)
maverickgames.com C- (2020)
Owl.games C- (2021)
parlayplus.com C- (2019)
Rollbit.com C- (2021)
roobet.com C- (2019)
Trustdice.win C- (2019)

"D" rated books
Betnomi.com D+ (2020)
Betonbit.com D+ (2019)
Latinbet24.com D+ (2020)
Mint.io D+ (2021)
Moonbet.io D+ (2022)
Rocketpot.io D+ (2019)
sportbet.one D+ (2019)
Wolf.bet D+ (2019)
Bet365crypto.net D (2021)
Action247.ag
aidibets.io/sport D- (2022)
bit555.io D- (2022)
csgo500.com D-  
Decibet.com (2022)
mysticbets.io D- (2022)
Punt.com D- (2022)
Wintomato.com D- (2021)
Yas.bet D- (2022)


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January 18, 2023, 06:53:31 AM
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So I wanted to give an update on Chips.gg casino:

I joined November 26th and all went well. Smooth website, quick navigating and nice layout. Lot of casino and sports games to play and good and friendly support in the livechat.
I got to level 117 of the loyalty because I placed quite a lot of NBA bets. All bets I placed were on NBA (I guess about 200 in total) and a couple on NFL. And a little bit on casino games but only about $1000 stake in total.

So all fine, made a total of 5 deposits and 1 withdrawal, which was processed very fast. So all very well and I have a lot of confidence in Chips.gg but when I submitted the verification some hickups happened. I submitted it on January 8th but it was rejected because I submitted a driving license and it had to be a passport instead. So, I did the verification again with my passport and it took quite long so I asked for an update in the livechat and now today I was told "Your account is undergoing an investigation due to your gameplay on sportsbook. Our team will finish the investigation and update you when possible, thank you and we apologize for the inconvenience."
And meanwhile ever since I needed to submit my documents for verification my withdrawal function has been disabled. Although I can still log in and place bets.

So this will be a nice test to see how trustable Chips.gg is. If this get resolved quickly and in a good manner I would like to nominate Chips for a good rating of at least B.

I did not break any rules so I expect no problems.

Will keep you updated about this.
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January 18, 2023, 12:43:24 PM
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So I wanted to give an update on Chips.gg casino:

I joined November 26th and all went well. Smooth website, quick navigating and nice layout. Lot of casino and sports games to play and good and friendly support in the livechat.
I got to level 117 of the loyalty because I placed quite a lot of NBA bets. All bets I placed were on NBA (I guess about 200 in total) and a couple on NFL. And a little bit on casino games but only about $1000 stake in total.

So all fine, made a total of 5 deposits and 1 withdrawal, which was processed very fast. So all very well and I have a lot of confidence in Chips.gg but when I submitted the verification some hickups happened. I submitted it on January 8th but it was rejected because I submitted a driving license and it had to be a passport instead. So, I did the verification again with my passport and it took quite long so I asked for an update in the livechat and now today I was told "Your account is undergoing an investigation due to your gameplay on sportsbook. Our team will finish the investigation and update you when possible, thank you and we apologize for the inconvenience."
And meanwhile ever since I needed to submit my documents for verification my withdrawal function has been disabled. Although I can still log in and place bets.

So this will be a nice test to see how trustable Chips.gg is. If this get resolved quickly and in a good manner I would like to nominate Chips for a good rating of at least B.

I did not break any rules so I expect no problems.

Will keep you updated about this.

That's a great review. Let us know about the withdrawal since ratings for all the NRs will go up after the Super Bowl.

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January 19, 2023, 12:00:46 AM
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I'm looking to deposit on Sportbet.one because I like their bonus but I'm a little hesitant due to the D+ rating, is there a specific reason for that? Also, if I make the deposit and win some money, will they pay out?
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January 19, 2023, 12:52:22 AM
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I'm looking to deposit on Sportbet.one because I like their bonus but I'm a little hesitant due to the D+ rating, is there a specific reason for that? Also, if I make the deposit and win some money, will they pay out?

They definitely aren't recommended. They accused one player of arbitrage betting. A wager won and Sportbet.one not only didn't pay the winnings, they counted it as a loss. Their odds (high margins) are bad. There are better books to play at.

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January 19, 2023, 04:32:25 AM
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So I wanted to give an update on Chips.gg casino:

I joined November 26th and all went well. Smooth website, quick navigating and nice layout. Lot of casino and sports games to play and good and friendly support in the livechat.
I got to level 117 of the loyalty because I placed quite a lot of NBA bets. All bets I placed were on NBA (I guess about 200 in total) and a couple on NFL. And a little bit on casino games but only about $1000 stake in total.

So all fine, made a total of 5 deposits and 1 withdrawal, which was processed very fast. So all very well and I have a lot of confidence in Chips.gg but when I submitted the verification some hickups happened. I submitted it on January 8th but it was rejected because I submitted a driving license and it had to be a passport instead. So, I did the verification again with my passport and it took quite long so I asked for an update in the livechat and now today I was told "Your account is undergoing an investigation due to your gameplay on sportsbook. Our team will finish the investigation and update you when possible, thank you and we apologize for the inconvenience."
And meanwhile ever since I needed to submit my documents for verification my withdrawal function has been disabled. Although I can still log in and place bets.

So this will be a nice test to see how trustable Chips.gg is. If this get resolved quickly and in a good manner I would like to nominate Chips for a good rating of at least B.

I did not break any rules so I expect no problems.

Will keep you updated about this.

That's a great review. Let us know about the withdrawal since ratings for all the NRs will go up after the Super Bowl.

Okay, their investigation was finished and nothing was wrong. My account is now verified. I requested a large 1.2 BTC payout and it was processed within 30 mins.
For me Chips.gg can definitely be trusted and should be rated as a B-book or at the very least C+.
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