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August 16, 2023, 03:38:12 PM
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So as a conclusion, if you want someday to withdraw you may have problems. In my opinion, stay away from Bitsler
Maybe the problem is on you, not on Bitsler. Thousands of people are using Bitsler without any issues. Where your account was limited on other popular betting platform like Sportsbet and Stake. Perhaps, there is something wrong with your betting activity. I think your issue isn't going to affect the ratings of Bitsler here.

@Peeps Place, you have made a spelling mistake for Bitsler. You typed 'Bistler' everywhere instead of Bitsler.

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August 16, 2023, 04:20:59 PM
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So as a conclusion, if you want someday to withdraw you may have problems. In my opinion, stay away from Bitsler
Maybe the problem is on you, not on Bitsler. Thousands of people are using Bitsler without any issues. Where your account was limited on other popular betting platform like Sportsbet and Stake. Perhaps, there is something wrong with your betting activity. I think your issue isn't going to affect the ratings of Bitsler here.

@Peeps Place, you have made a spelling mistake for Bitsler. You typed 'Bistler' everywhere instead of Bitsler.

Ok you are right it is not because I have a bad experience that's everyone will have the same. My only observation is that I have been blocked once I asked for a withdraw. I find it a little inappropriate it sounds like ok you are winning and withdrawing some funds, we stop you. And you are right Bitsler is not the only casino acting like this, but I think people should know.
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August 16, 2023, 05:31:09 PM
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So as a conclusion, if you want someday to withdraw you may have problems. In my opinion, stay away from Bitsler
Maybe the problem is on you, not on Bitsler. Thousands of people are using Bitsler without any issues. Where your account was limited on other popular betting platform like Sportsbet and Stake. Perhaps, there is something wrong with your betting activity. I think your issue isn't going to affect the ratings of Bitsler here.

@Peeps Place, you have made a spelling mistake for Bitsler. You typed 'Bistler' everywhere instead of Bitsler.

Thanks Mahdirakib, it's been corrected.


So as a conclusion, if you want someday to withdraw you may have problems. In my opinion, stay away from Bitsler
Maybe the problem is on you, not on Bitsler. Thousands of people are using Bitsler without any issues. Where your account was limited on other popular betting platform like Sportsbet and Stake. Perhaps, there is something wrong with your betting activity. I think your issue isn't going to affect the ratings of Bitsler here.

@Peeps Place, you have made a spelling mistake for Bitsler. You typed 'Bistler' everywhere instead of Bitsler.

Ok you are right it is not because I have a bad experience that's everyone will have the same. My only observation is that I have been blocked once I asked for a withdraw. I find it a little inappropriate it sounds like ok you are winning and withdrawing some funds, we stop you. And you are right Bitsler is not the only casino acting like this, but I think people should know.

It looks like you're flagged as a winning gambler. Some sites limit players and/or ask for KYC faster than others. I'd assume that's why you ran into problems with Stake, Sportsbet and Bitsler. Thanks for bringing your experience to the thread.

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August 16, 2023, 05:48:28 PM
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It looks like you're flagged as a winning gambler. Some sites limit players and/or ask for KYC faster than others. I'd assume that's why you ran into problems with Stake, Sportsbet and Bitsler. Thanks for bringing your experience to the thread.

I have never heard of such a practice. If anything, limiting players for winning too much sounds like something which should be banned under regulation laws for online gambling casinos. Because that sounds very messed up, and if anyone can prove they do that then I imagine a lawsuit would not be far off. But I am no lawyer so perhaps I am wrong.

But what I do know is that if you are planning on gambling on a KYC casino then it is smarter to do KYC before you even deposit funds into your account. That way they cannot withhold your winnings from you for a long time on any verification grounds. Otherwise they can "verify" your documents for ages and you could not do anything about it because there are no rules on the time limits of how long KYC must take.

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August 16, 2023, 05:58:42 PM
Last edit: August 16, 2023, 06:15:56 PM by Peeps Place
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It looks like you're flagged as a winning gambler. Some sites limit players and/or ask for KYC faster than others. I'd assume that's why you ran into problems with Stake, Sportsbet and Bitsler. Thanks for bringing your experience to the thread.

I have never heard of such a practice. If anything, limiting players for winning too much sounds like something which should be banned under regulation laws for online gambling casinos. Because that sounds very messed up, and if anyone can prove they do that then I imagine a lawsuit would not be far off. But I am no lawyer so perhaps I am wrong.

But what I do know is that if you are planning on gambling on a KYC casino then it is smarter to do KYC before you even deposit funds into your account. That way they cannot withhold your winnings from you for a long time on any verification grounds. Otherwise they can "verify" your documents for ages and you could not do anything about it because there are no rules on the time limits of how long KYC must take.

Everyone gets profiled. Sometimes the odds providers determine the limits of each player and at other times it's the individual casino. There have been lawsuits through the years and it was determined that casinos do have the right to set limits for each individual. I don't like the practice either.

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Add 0x.bet to NR.

Edit, deleted from NR since they accept fiat.

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Update:

SportsBooks |
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"A" rated books
Nitrobetting|
A+
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2013
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Costa Rica
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1
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Racebook, Poker, Sports Bonus
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Betcoin|
A+
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2013
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Curacao
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1
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Racebook and Two Books
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MBet|
A-
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2017
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Cyprus
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Racebook
     
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"B" rated books
Stake|
B  
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2019
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Curacao
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4
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opened as casino 2014
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Bitsler|
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2015
 
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Curacao
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2
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Fortune Jack|
B-
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2019
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Curacao
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2
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"C" rated books
Betfury|
C+
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2020
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Curacao
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3
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Cloudbet|
C+
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2013
 
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Curacao
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3
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Sports Bonus
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Roobet|
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2019
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Curacao
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5
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C
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2020
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Curacao
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Sportsbet|
C
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2016
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Curacao
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3
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Racebook
         
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Maverickgames|
C
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2020
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5
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Owl|
C
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2021
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Curacao
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Rollbit|
C
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Curacao
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Curacao
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August 27, 2023, 08:12:43 AM
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Betcoin many scam reports, why still A rated?
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Betcoin many scam reports, why still A rated?

Here are some things that are unique or infrequent at other books.

1. Betcoin is the safest book out of all because they agree to third party arbitration and let the player pick the arbiter.
2. No KYC if you aren't using a VPN. Whenever they have done KYC they agree to arbitration and have won every case.
3. Two books in one.
4. The most modern book of all. They have the legacy version for those that like things simple. Then there is the new version with all the bells and whistles.
5. Social gaming with PBR coin.
6. Sports jackpot worth over $25k now USD.
7. All sportsbook rating sites with a presence at bitcointalk such as cryptogamingrevu and 100bookies have Betcoin 1 or 2. The same with threads by posters although old. Listed as "other sources" first page. The same can be said about the other "A" book Nitrobetting.
8. They are consistently improving with site updates. They just added a new addition https://new.betcoin.ag/.
9. They have horse racing, harness and greyhound.

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August 27, 2023, 11:30:44 AM
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This is very impressive rating card so far. The criteria that is used for rating the casinos from A-C is very nice and tailored to fit most of sportsbook around forum. However I was thinking how about you can also refer to the other reviewing websites around the internet but only choosing the most trusted and best type of reviewer. I am not sure how popular is trustpilot in your region but that can also be added as “reference” just to increase the confidence in the whole rating process.

Rest is definitely very nicely tailored.

You are also maintaining the tables properly so I’m sure you have been working very hard on this. Good luck for further developments.
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This is very impressive rating card so far. The criteria that is used for rating the casinos from A-C is very nice and tailored to fit most of sportsbook around forum. However I was thinking how about you can also refer to the other reviewing websites around the internet but only choosing the most trusted and best type of reviewer. I am not sure how popular is trustpilot in your region but that can also be added as “reference” just to increase the confidence in the whole rating process.

Rest is definitely very nicely tailored.

You are also maintaining the tables properly so I’m sure you have been working very hard on this. Good luck for further developments.

Thanks so98nn. Most of the time I only post A-C, but on page 1 there are D, F, Not rated yet, Exchanges, Prediction Markets, Mutual Betting and Brokers. I didn't want to pick and choose rating guides so I posted all with a presence at BCT that rate sportsbooks. It's listed under other sources on page 1.

Other sources:

Current rating guide by cryptogamingrevu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5419723.0 https://cryptogamingrevu.com/
Current rating guide by 100bookies https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5158369.0 https://100bookies.com/cryptocurrency-sportsbooks-eng/
Ratings by Bitedge https://bitedge.com/crypto-sportsbook-reviews/#top-crypto-sportsbooks
Old rating thread by RyanK https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577102.0
Old rating thread by Frue Greeds https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1820529.0
Withdrawal fees by Pmalek https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5333602.0
Licences  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5381143.0


The other A rated book is Nitrobetting. Here are some things that are unique or infrequent at Nitrobetting.

1. Sports bonus. Most casinos only have bonuses for casinos.
2. Sports rebate for the NFL.
3. Poker
4. Horse racing, harness and greyhound.
5. No KYC if you don't use a VPN.
6. Great odds.
7. All sportsbook rating sites with a presence at bitcointalk such as cryptogamingrevu and 100bookies have Nitrobetting 1 or 2. The same with threads by posters although old. Listed as "other sources" first page.
8. Rebates for horse racing.
9. Games that don't exist at other books such as Survivor Pools.
10. No scam accusations in all of 2023.
11. The oldest sportsbook still in business.

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If you already added clickable links to all other threads and sites in the quoted part of your post, I think it's only fair to do the same for Mahdirakib's Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements as well. I am slightly confused why the link isn't clickable in your post, but now when I quoted it, it changes to a clickable link.

The other A rated book is Nitrobetting. Here are some things that are unique or infrequent at Nitrobetting.
Nitrobetting is connected to Nitrogen Sports, which has a bad reputation on this forum. I don't consider it a good idea to put special highlight on such sites and suggest that the community use them and not some other casinos.

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Why is sportsbet on C list? I was using them few years ago like a charm  Huh
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Why is sportsbet on C list? I was using them few years ago like a charm  Huh
Most people take his ratings with a grain of salt  Wink

When was the last time you saw Nitrogen, Betcoin or Mbet do a sponsorship with a Premier League club?
Or any sponsorship for that matter?

Newcastle United has announced a multi-year partnership with Sportsbet.io, a leading online sports technology and betting platform.

Sportsbet.io, part of Yolo Group, has established itself as a digital innovator in the sports industry, bringing its members close to the action through incisive content, analytics and incentives such as cryptocurrency betting.

Speaking of the partnership, Newcastle United's Chief Commercial Officer, Peter Silverstone, commented: "Sportsbet.io is a digital innovator and shares the club's desire to unlock new ways of engaging with supporters and those who love sport.

"Having the digital expertise of Sportsbet.io as part of our Newcastle United family will help us to work together to create content and incentives that will benefit our fans in territories around the world.

"Having previously worked with Sportsbet.io, I have seen first-hand how they engage with supporters, breaking boundaries to activate new ideas. Sportsbet.io is a great addition to our growing family of partners and a one which will excite our global fan base."

Tim Heath, founder of Yolo Group, added: "We are absolutely delighted to partner with Newcastle United - a milestone moment for both organisations.

"This partnership represents an incredible opportunity to connect with fans not just locally, but across the globe. We share a common vision to push the boundaries of digital innovation in the sports industry and we are thrilled to work hand in hand with the club to create unforgettable moments for these dedicated supporters worldwide.

"This is a great partnership for everybody involved and we thank Kalus Kenny Intelex and ISG for their invaluable contributions in making this a reality."

For more information and to see a number of free promotions, please visit www.sportsbet.io (18+).

https://www.nufc.co.uk/news/latest-news/newcastle-united-welcomes-sportsbetio-as-new-club-partner/

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August 28, 2023, 05:56:24 PM
Last edit: August 28, 2023, 06:31:01 PM by Peeps Place
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Why is sportsbet on C list? I was using them few years ago like a charm  Huh
Most people take his ratings with a grain of salt  Wink

When was the last time you saw Nitrogen, Betcoin or Mbet do a sponsorship with a Premier League club?
Or any sponsorship for that matter?

Newcastle United has announced a multi-year partnership with Sportsbet.io, a leading online sports technology and betting platform.

Sportsbet.io, part of Yolo Group, has established itself as a digital innovator in the sports industry, bringing its members close to the action through incisive content, analytics and incentives such as cryptocurrency betting.

Speaking of the partnership, Newcastle United's Chief Commercial Officer, Peter Silverstone, commented: "Sportsbet.io is a digital innovator and shares the club's desire to unlock new ways of engaging with supporters and those who love sport.

"Having the digital expertise of Sportsbet.io as part of our Newcastle United family will help us to work together to create content and incentives that will benefit our fans in territories around the world.

"Having previously worked with Sportsbet.io, I have seen first-hand how they engage with supporters, breaking boundaries to activate new ideas. Sportsbet.io is a great addition to our growing family of partners and a one which will excite our global fan base."

Tim Heath, founder of Yolo Group, added: "We are absolutely delighted to partner with Newcastle United - a milestone moment for both organisations.

"This partnership represents an incredible opportunity to connect with fans not just locally, but across the globe. We share a common vision to push the boundaries of digital innovation in the sports industry and we are thrilled to work hand in hand with the club to create unforgettable moments for these dedicated supporters worldwide.

"This is a great partnership for everybody involved and we thank Kalus Kenny Intelex and ISG for their invaluable contributions in making this a reality."

For more information and to see a number of free promotions, please visit www.sportsbet.io (18+).

https://www.nufc.co.uk/news/latest-news/newcastle-united-welcomes-sportsbetio-as-new-club-partner/

1xbet sponsored Chelsea FC and Liverpool. Heavy advertising can lead to a huge player base that may cover up the deficiencies or security of a book. Betcoin's former sister book, Playbtr sponsored Paris Saint-Germaine (PSG) for three years. Sportsbet should not be included in the ratings guide since they are the only book that accepts fiat. An exception was made because of their popularity at BCT. The rating criteria is on page one.

No one will totally agree with any rating's guide. I feel secure in having Nitrobetting and Betcoin #1 and #2 since all the rating guides at BCT have them #1 and #2. Links to those guides are on page one.

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August 28, 2023, 06:12:30 PM
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Sportsbet should not be included in the ratings guide since the are the only book that accepts fiat.

You do realise Stake accepts fiat, right?

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August 28, 2023, 06:13:39 PM
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Sportsbet should not be included in the ratings guide since the are the only book that accepts fiat.

You do realise Stake accepts fiat, right?

Stake and Sportsbet both have a huge presence here at BCT.

Other sources:

Current rating guide by cryptogamingrevu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5419723.0 https://cryptogamingrevu.com/
Current rating guide by 100bookies https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5158369.0 https://100bookies.com/cryptocurrency-sportsbooks-eng/
Ratings by Bitedge https://bitedge.com/crypto-sportsbook-reviews/#top-crypto-sportsbooks
Old rating thread by RyanK https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577102.0
Old rating thread by Frue Greeds https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1820529.0
Withdrawal fees by Pmalek https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5333602.0
Licences  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5381143.0

Take a look at the scam accusations here for the last 90 days. Nitrobetting, Betcoin and mBet have 0 accustaions while Stake has 4.


100bookies ranks Sportbet 9th.


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Take a look at the scam accusations here for the last 90 days. Nitrobetting, Betcoin and mBet have 0 accustaions while Stake has 4.
Nitrobetting and mBet have absolutely no activity in their ANNs, and I doubt many people on Bitcointalk use them. Hence, it's only logical that you won't find scam accusations against a site with very few active Bitcointalk players. If you take a look at their ANNs, the only posts are those from their forum representatives. Betcoin is almost the same. The last 3 pages are almost exclusive to match previews and promotions posted by their forum account.

Stake, on the other hand, has a lot of activity. I haven't looked at the content of those scam accusations you mentioned, but take any scam accusation you see with a grain of salt. I visit the scam accusation board occasionally. There are valid accusations but not as many as you would think. There are many fake ones posted by abusers of all kinds who are angry they got caught and would like to see the world burn. Some accusations are totally baseless or don't share a single piece of evidence.   

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August 28, 2023, 06:33:21 PM
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Take a look at the scam accusations here for the last 90 days. Nitrobetting, Betcoin and mBet have 0 accustaions while Stake has 4.
Nitrobetting and mBet have absolutely no activity in their ANNs, and I doubt many people on Bitcointalk use them. Hence, it's only logical that you won't find scam accusations against a site with very few active Bitcointalk players. If you take a look at their ANNs, the only posts are those from their forum representatives. Betcoin is almost the same. The last 3 pages are almost exclusive to match previews and promotions posted by their forum account.

Stake, on the other hand, has a lot of activity. I haven't looked at the content of those scam accusations you mentioned, but take any scam accusation you see with a grain of salt. I visit the scam accusation board occasionally. There are valid accusations but not as many as you would think. There are many fake ones posted by abusers of all kinds who are angry they got caught and would like to see the world burn. Some accusations are totally baseless or don't share a single piece of evidence.    

I agree with you since Stake has a huge player base there will be a lot of accusations, some aren't warranted. There is a case going on now with Stake where a players funds have been frozen for more than 3 months. But having 0 accusations does say something no matter the player base.

If you go outside of BCT, Nitrobetting and Betcoin are considered the better books. There is heavy advertising here for Stake. Many signatures are Stake's. This isn't to say that Stake is a bad book, it just says that advertising is heavy here.

You did a nice job with withdrawal fees. It's a great source and linked on page 1.. I'll throw up another one. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5333602.0

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August 28, 2023, 06:40:00 PM
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Sportsbet should not be included in the ratings guide since the are the only book that accepts fiat.

You do realise Stake accepts fiat, right?

Stake and Sportsbet both have a huge presence here at BCT.
You literally just said Sportsbet is the ONLY book that accepts fiat.
Which I just proved to be 100% false.

100bookies ranks Sportbet 9th.

They also haven't updated their site since 2021 when Messi played for Barça.
So who really cares what they think?

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