GAW ZenCloud ZenPool Hashlet - does it really exist? ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-)

[crashoveride54902]

This topic should be renamed as "ALWAYS LOSE MONEY" because none of my 20 hashlets are not making any for sure  

Device Name MultiHashlet 1 (MultiHashlet)
Power 1 MH
BTC Payout 0.00023193 BTC
Maintenance Fee -0.00023192 BTC

Device Name CleverHashlet 1 (CleverHashlet)
Power 1 MH
BTC Payout 0.00029321 BTC
Maintenance Fee -0.00023192 BTC

Device Name Hashlet Genesis 100 (Hashlet Genesis)
Power 100 GH
BTC Payout 0.00132252 BTC
Maintenance Fee -0.00057980 BTC

Device Name CleverHashlet 1 (CleverHashlet)
Power 6 MH
BTC Payout 0.00174035 BTC
Maintenance Fee -0.00139152 BTC

I dont know which is worse seeing those results or seeing the miners for sale havent been bought yet.

have to have new btc or mined btc for miners to be bought...I doubt there is much left

[alienesb]

..snip..
Instead, we now have a large delay in which no payouts need to be made (in anything convertible to BTC), but promises of EXTREME RICHES! to all that hold through it. In an ingenious move, GAW makes money from each skeptic selling to an incoming sheep as the marketplace fleeces them for 10% (in BTC converted to USD, not Hashpoints).
..snip..

Don't forget:

3.12 GAW as defined herein  is not engaged in providing investment products, regulated commodities, or financial products of any type or kind.  GAW is not registered as a securities broker-dealer or an investment adviser either with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (“SEC”) or with any state securities regulatory authority, and does not offer any product or service based upon the sale or acquisition of securities or derivative based products or services. GAW is neither licensed nor qualified to provide investment advice and you are specifically and adamantly advised not to rely upon anything posted/communicated/implied or expressed by GAW.

That bold part wtf??? That's some real CYA right there.

[suchmoon]

Hi all

Can somebody tell me if zencloud change the power display on the prime hashlet ?? I mean do they include now the power you use when you boost or when you double mine ?

It's showing double rate for me. Not sure if that's because of double dip. I think there is a double-hash promotion going on too, maybe that's what we're seeing.

[suchmoon]

have to have new btc or mined btc for miners to be bought...I doubt there is much left

People are still borrowing on BTCjam to put money into hashlets/hashcoins. Claiming 15-day ROI or something like that. I'm sure there is a healthy flow of new cash.

[knowhow]

since he have a timeline most users start to prepare and credit card running for sure to invest on gaw project ,with the interest off 4 dollars become and be 20 dollars worth soo no way to 5X the investment anywhere i know this wont stand or even being possible to hold as there are a lot of hascoins with users already and mining till we all be able to buy atleast 1 unit i guess wont be any limit otherwise somepeople will get the hascoin entire and then sell it in small parts.

Im online incomeR a while to know this looks like cyclers and shares incomes,as this kind of places have a lifetime of 1 month... the magic of double tripler or cycle out is being online on the time it starts when the money get in after 3 days start slow down till stop and all money froozen till the admin run website out soo.

I really hope gaw has a great plan to stand and stay because there is a much more to loose then to win currently too many features and short time to make it happen.

As i said before i had joined btc late as i were away from this i were a ptc user making some cents... when btc appears even after it reach 1000dollars i dont remember to see and advertise from btc on ptc websites.... maybe im wrong but i dont remember to see it,and well ptc industry moves bilions of money nowadays .

I am forced to believe and stay with hashbase promise to be able to ROI since i am one of the users that bought primes as others haslets after the raise from 16 to 40 i could had sold my prime since market reached it ,but my others haslets already dropped around 25% from what i had paid soo no deal to loose money and i wont left gaw until end year as i see i can be able to roi without sell my miners and chill out later as ROI ,for sure all wanna it.

[chmick]

I have a doubt on something ?

Can anybody post two screenshots of the genesis hash market (one sort by price , the other one sort by unit price , both with the smallest first) ??


Thanks alot

[alienesb]

since he have a timeline most users start to prepare and credit card running for sure to invest on gaw project ,with the interest off 4 dollars become and be 20 dollars worth soo no way to 5X the investment anywhere i know this wont stand or even being possible to hold as there are a lot of hascoins with users already and mining till we all be able to buy atleast 1 unit i guess wont be any limit otherwise somepeople will get the hascoin entire and then sell it in small parts,i know and im online income a while to know thisc looks like cyclers and shares incomes,as this kind of places have a lifetime of 1 month... the magic of double tripler or cycle out is being online on the time it starts when the money get in after 3 days start slow down till stop and all money froozen till the admin run website out soo i really hope gaw has a great plan to stand and stay because there is a much more to loose then to win currently too many features and short time to make it happen,as i said before i had joined btc late as i were away from this i were a ptc user making some cents... when btc appears even after it reach 1000dollars i dont remember to see and advertise from btc on ptc websites.... maybe im wrong but i dont remember to see it,and well ptc industry moves bilions of money nowadays .
I am forced to believe and stay with hashbase promise to be able to ROI since i am one of the users that bought primes as others haslets after the raise from 16 to 40 i could had sold my prime since market reached it ,but my others haslets already dropped around 25% from what i had paid soo no deal to loose money and i wont left gaw until end year as i see i can be able to roi without sell my miners and chill out later as ROI ,for sure all wanna it.

It's Saturday, I've had a beer, I can't read this mess.

[Don007]

Hi all

Can somebody tell me if zencloud change the power display on the prime hashlet ?? I mean do they include now the power you use when you boost or when you double mine ?

It's showing double rate for me. Not sure if that's because of double dip. I think there is a double-hash promotion going on too, maybe that's what we're seeing.

Indeed, I saw a double rate too (without using the boost or Double dip). However, the total hashrate hasn't increased since, so I think it's just a way to mention that you're able to double-dip it.

I love that double-dip function .

However, I'm not sure how long I still am going to hold these hashlets. I'm over ROI by the way .

[bitcoinnoisseur]

since he have a timeline most users start to prepare and credit card running for sure to invest on gaw project ,with the interest off 4 dollars become and be 20 dollars worth soo no way to 5X the investment anywhere i know this wont stand or even being possible to hold as there are a lot of hascoins with users already and mining till we all be able to buy atleast 1 unit i guess wont be any limit otherwise somepeople will get the hascoin entire and then sell it in small parts,i know and im online income a while to know thisc looks like cyclers and shares incomes,as this kind of places have a lifetime of 1 month... the magic of double tripler or cycle out is being online on the time it starts when the money get in after 3 days start slow down till stop and all money froozen till the admin run website out soo i really hope gaw has a great plan to stand and stay because there is a much more to loose then to win currently too many features and short time to make it happen,as i said before i had joined btc late as i were away from this i were a ptc user making some cents... when btc appears even after it reach 1000dollars i dont remember to see and advertise from btc on ptc websites.... maybe im wrong but i dont remember to see it,and well ptc industry moves bilions of money nowadays .
I am forced to believe and stay with hashbase promise to be able to ROI since i am one of the users that bought primes as others haslets after the raise from 16 to 40 i could had sold my prime since market reached it ,but my others haslets already dropped around 25% from what i had paid soo no deal to loose money and i wont left gaw until end year as i see i can be able to roi without sell my miners and chill out later as ROI ,for sure all wanna it.

It's Saturday, I've had a beer, I can't read this mess.

You could have had 100 beers or not at all in your entire life and not have a single clue what the fuck he just wrote. That is the most poorly written unpunctuated rambling I've ever come across. I have to hope and pray he isn't American and has almost no schooling in English whatsoever.

[knowhow]

since he have a timeline most users start to prepare and credit card running for sure to invest on gaw project ,with the interest off 4 dollars become and be 20 dollars worth soo no way to 5X the investment anywhere i know this wont stand or even being possible to hold as there are a lot of hascoins with users already and mining till we all be able to buy atleast 1 unit i guess wont be any limit otherwise somepeople will get the hascoin entire and then sell it in small parts,i know and im online income a while to know thisc looks like cyclers and shares incomes,as this kind of places have a lifetime of 1 month... the magic of double tripler or cycle out is being online on the time it starts when the money get in after 3 days start slow down till stop and all money froozen till the admin run website out soo i really hope gaw has a great plan to stand and stay because there is a much more to loose then to win currently too many features and short time to make it happen,as i said before i had joined btc late as i were away from this i were a ptc user making some cents... when btc appears even after it reach 1000dollars i dont remember to see and advertise from btc on ptc websites.... maybe im wrong but i dont remember to see it,and well ptc industry moves bilions of money nowadays .
I am forced to believe and stay with hashbase promise to be able to ROI since i am one of the users that bought primes as others haslets after the raise from 16 to 40 i could had sold my prime since market reached it ,but my others haslets already dropped around 25% from what i had paid soo no deal to loose money and i wont left gaw until end year as i see i can be able to roi without sell my miners and chill out later as ROI ,for sure all wanna it.

It's Saturday, I've had a beer, I can't read this mess.

sorry my englisht isnt the best i will try to point all :

with a timeline the users are investing deeply because the dream of 5x with hascoin...

then ptc industry always makes ads from everything from cyclers cyclers or another ptc or other thing i didnt catch any ads from btc before i joined i just joined because i found this forum and i were curios to give a try

to make it clear who had invested only at primes can try to sell them because as me some new users bought it at 40 dollars instead the old 16 dollars soo who doesnt wanna wait to see the new coin can sell to atleast jump out,from other hand who bough various of haslets as zen multi clever saw the price drops around 25% from what they paid soo have to stand and wait to try ROI or get part of the investment made

[suchmoon]

I have a doubt on something ?

Can anybody post two screenshots of the genesis hash market (one sort by price , the other one sort by unit price , both with the smallest first) ??


Thanks alot

Here you go:

http://i.snag.gy/WIeaC.jpg
http://i.snag.gy/MujNU.jpg

[knowhow]

since he have a timeline most users start to prepare and credit card running for sure to invest on gaw project ,with the interest off 4 dollars become and be 20 dollars worth soo no way to 5X the investment anywhere i know this wont stand or even being possible to hold as there are a lot of hascoins with users already and mining till we all be able to buy atleast 1 unit i guess wont be any limit otherwise somepeople will get the hascoin entire and then sell it in small parts,i know and im online income a while to know thisc looks like cyclers and shares incomes,as this kind of places have a lifetime of 1 month... the magic of double tripler or cycle out is being online on the time it starts when the money get in after 3 days start slow down till stop and all money froozen till the admin run website out soo i really hope gaw has a great plan to stand and stay because there is a much more to loose then to win currently too many features and short time to make it happen,as i said before i had joined btc late as i were away from this i were a ptc user making some cents... when btc appears even after it reach 1000dollars i dont remember to see and advertise from btc on ptc websites.... maybe im wrong but i dont remember to see it,and well ptc industry moves bilions of money nowadays .
I am forced to believe and stay with hashbase promise to be able to ROI since i am one of the users that bought primes as others haslets after the raise from 16 to 40 i could had sold my prime since market reached it ,but my others haslets already dropped around 25% from what i had paid soo no deal to loose money and i wont left gaw until end year as i see i can be able to roi without sell my miners and chill out later as ROI ,for sure all wanna it.

It's Saturday, I've had a beer, I can't read this mess.

You could have had 100 beers or not at all in your entire life and not have a single clue what the fuck he just wrote. That is the most poorly written unpunctuated rambling I've ever come across. I have to hope and pray he isn't American and has almost no schooling in English whatsoever.

dont need to hit me i speak the hardest languange on the world that is PORTUGUESE soo i try english as we speak the english people write is different from what we speak ex:

gas station
in portuguese station gas....

[suchmoon]

dont need to hit me i speak the hardest languange on the world that is PORTUGUESE soo i try english as we speak the english people write is different from what we speak ex:

gas station
in portuguese station gas....

Word of advice. Use short sentences. Use punctuation.

[chmick]

I have a doubt on something ?

Can anybody post two screenshots of the genesis hash market (one sort by price , the other one sort by unit price , both with the smallest first) ??


Thanks alot

Here you go:

http://i.snag.gy/WIeaC.jpg
http://i.snag.gy/MujNU.jpg

Thanks .

I think zencloud add extra fee to the price we decide to sell for. So they win twice : once by taking a fee on your sell , once by adding another fee to the sell price .  Am I correct ?

[crashoveride54902]

I have a doubt on something ?

Can anybody post two screenshots of the genesis hash market (one sort by price , the other one sort by unit price , both with the smallest first) ??


Thanks alot

Here you go:

http://i.snag.gy/WIeaC.jpg
http://i.snag.gy/MujNU.jpg

Thanks .

I think zencloud add extra fee to the price we decide to sell for. So they win twice : once by taking a fee on your sell , once by adding another fee to the sell price .  Am I correct ?

yes this has been known already...they take 10%....5% for each side

[suchmoon]

I have a doubt on something ?

Can anybody post two screenshots of the genesis hash market (one sort by price , the other one sort by unit price , both with the smallest first) ??


Thanks alot

Here you go:

http://i.snag.gy/WIeaC.jpg
http://i.snag.gy/MujNU.jpg

Thanks .

I think zencloud add extra fee to the price we decide to sell for. So they win twice : once by taking a fee on your sell , once by adding another fee to the sell price .  Am I correct ?

Yes. If you list for $40, they add 5% and list it at $42. Then when it's sold they take 5% from your price as well and you get $38. Roughly 9.5% total.

[knowhow]

dont need to hit me i speak the hardest languange on the world that is PORTUGUESE soo i try english as we speak the english people write is different from what we speak ex:

gas station
in portuguese station gas....

Word of advice. Use short sentences. Use punctuation.

main problem here is i dont like to write them i always use ....will try to use them 

[chmick]

I have a doubt on something ?

Can anybody post two screenshots of the genesis hash market (one sort by price , the other one sort by unit price , both with the smallest first) ??

Thanks alot

Here you go:

http://i.snag.gy/WIeaC.jpg
http://i.snag.gy/MujNU.jpg

Thanks .

I think zencloud add extra fee to the price we decide to sell for. So they win twice : once by taking a fee on your sell , once by adding another fee to the sell price .  Am I correct ?

yes this has been known already...they take 10%....5% for each side

Thanks for the confirmation.


By the way , are you married to acidburn ?? ;-)

[bitcoinnoisseur]

since he have a timeline most users start to prepare and credit card running for sure to invest on gaw project ,with the interest off 4 dollars become and be 20 dollars worth soo no way to 5X the investment anywhere i know this wont stand or even being possible to hold as there are a lot of hascoins with users already and mining till we all be able to buy atleast 1 unit i guess wont be any limit otherwise somepeople will get the hascoin entire and then sell it in small parts,i know and im online income a while to know thisc looks like cyclers and shares incomes,as this kind of places have a lifetime of 1 month... the magic of double tripler or cycle out is being online on the time it starts when the money get in after 3 days start slow down till stop and all money froozen till the admin run website out soo i really hope gaw has a great plan to stand and stay because there is a much more to loose then to win currently too many features and short time to make it happen,as i said before i had joined btc late as i were away from this i were a ptc user making some cents... when btc appears even after it reach 1000dollars i dont remember to see and advertise from btc on ptc websites.... maybe im wrong but i dont remember to see it,and well ptc industry moves bilions of money nowadays .
I am forced to believe and stay with hashbase promise to be able to ROI since i am one of the users that bought primes as others haslets after the raise from 16 to 40 i could had sold my prime since market reached it ,but my others haslets already dropped around 25% from what i had paid soo no deal to loose money and i wont left gaw until end year as i see i can be able to roi without sell my miners and chill out later as ROI ,for sure all wanna it.

It's Saturday, I've had a beer, I can't read this mess.

You could have had 100 beers or not at all in your entire life and not have a single clue what the fuck he just wrote. That is the most poorly written unpunctuated rambling I've ever come across. I have to hope and pray he isn't American and has almost no schooling in English whatsoever.

dont need to hit me i speak the hardest languange on the world that is PORTUGUESE soo i try english as we speak the english people write is different from what we speak ex:

gas station
in portuguese station gas....

Portugese is NOT the most difficult language to learn. It is one of the easiest.

The easiest languages — including Spanish, French, Portuguese and Italian — require just 23-24 weeks of study, or 575-600 class hours, to achieve proficiency, and are the easiest because of their closeness to English.

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-hardest-languages-to-learn-2014-5

AND Why dont you just use a translator???

[chmick]

dont need to hit me i speak the hardest languange on the world that is PORTUGUESE soo i try english as we speak the english people write is different from what we speak ex:

gas station
in portuguese station gas....

Portugese is NOT the most difficult language to learn. It is one of the easiest.

The easiest languages — including Spanish, French, Portuguese and Italian — require just 23-24 weeks of study, or 575-600 class hours, to achieve proficiency, and are the easiest because of their closeness to English.

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-hardest-languages-to-learn-2014-5

AND Why dont you just use a translator???

You should take into consideration than the dfficulty come also from your birth language . It's probably more difficult for a danish to learn spanish than for a french or an italian . Due to some common roots in the language .

Anyway you are right , punctuation is mandatory, as well as paragraphs .

And google translate can help a bit .


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