[ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New 1.2.3 Fork block 92000

[tricass]

Fix the damn 1.0.2 wallet so I don't have to copy and paste in my 12 word code every time.  It is too much effort.

I want it to remember my login.  

Right now, there are only full blocks found by miners, no partials as in a pool?

I've been mining for a day and a half now, have found no blocks from my 20 GB hard drive allocation.

From my open wallet file, the last line reads  2014-08-18 17:46:57 INFO: nxt.apiServerEnforcePOST = "true" .

Is this right?  Am I properly mining?

i do not have good news for you, with 20 GB you will get 1 block every 70 days on average

Well I am on vacation right now, and 20 GB is all the free space I have on my laptop.  When I get home I can make bigger files on other computers.

if you're running windows based pcs take a look at teamviewer for remote access to your machines. it's free, simple and works like a charm.

Don't use it more than one PC, because they will warn you that you are using it for non-personal usage. This happened to me when I was running 3 rigs with it.

my pc rebooted on me while plotting was only half way through. is it safe to launch it again and it auto resumes from where it last finished? anyone tried this or had this happened? don't want to throw away the effort if it can be reused.

It will just start the plot over from the beginning.

thanks. good to know.

edit: also, i'm sure this was asked earlier but can't recall the answer but can one miner read multiple plot files for the same plotted address but diff nounce ranges?

yes

cool. thanks!

[SpeedDemon13]

Time for an observation on this coin and mining method, I'd like your input.

After a few days of reading on it, it seems that the only real mining equipment needed is some multi-TB hard drives, otherwise any old computer can eventually make the plot files and be good enough to mine on.

But therein lies a problem.  Cost of entry is low.  It won't be long before someone with huge storage capacity jacks the difficulty into the stratosphere.

You've seen what happened when ASICs came out for Bitcoin, and then for Scrypt coins.  Difficulty went sky high, everyone got less, and it takes a ton of money to even be a low level player.

So how long will it be before 100 TB worth of hard drives gets you one block per week?  Of an unknown, untested, unproven alt coin that could price crash at any time?

At least with BTC ASICs, their high price slowed the addition of them a bit.  Any jackhole here can call up Tiger Direct and order 100 4 TB drives at any time, and then we could see a run on large hard drives like what happened with GPUs last winter.

So part of me wants to get in on it, and part of me wants to say the hell with it, it's not worth the effort to be playing catch up and adding TBs of storage every few weeks.

And hard drives do not have good resale value.

And we are all solo mining now!  How long before Petabyte pools start on this coin?

What say you?

just mine with what you have and even if the petabyte miners come along and drive up difficulty wouldn't that translate into higher price for the burst that you mined and held from the beginning. i think you're putting the cart before the horse with all this worrying.

Those Peta, maybe even Exa, miners are inevitable if this coin really hit's off. But that would be a good thing because it would drive up demand and supply would slow down, which should increase the prices.

it would be funny if we could use the NSA's exabyte storage facility to mine this coin

Someone will eventually mine with Peta or higher, depending how popular this coin gets.

That would never happen with the NSA...lol

[abctc]

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[Sy]

Time for an observation on this coin and mining method, I'd like your input.

After a few days of reading on it, it seems that the only real mining equipment needed is some multi-TB hard drives, otherwise any old computer can eventually make the plot files and be good enough to mine on.

But therein lies a problem.  Cost of entry is low.  It won't be long before someone with huge storage capacity jacks the difficulty into the stratosphere.

You've seen what happened when ASICs came out for Bitcoin, and then for Scrypt coins.  Difficulty went sky high, everyone got less, and it takes a ton of money to even be a low level player.

So how long will it be before 100 TB worth of hard drives gets you one block per week?  Of an unknown, untested, unproven alt coin that could price crash at any time?

At least with BTC ASICs, their high price slowed the addition of them a bit.  Any jackhole here can call up Tiger Direct and order 100 4 TB drives at any time, and then we could see a run on large hard drives like what happened with GPUs last winter.

So part of me wants to get in on it, and part of me wants to say the hell with it, it's not worth the effort to be playing catch up and adding TBs of storage every few weeks.

And hard drives do not have good resale value.

And we are all solo mining now!  How long before Petabyte pools start on this coin?

What say you?

just mine with what you have and even if the petabyte miners come along and drive up difficulty wouldn't that translate into higher price for the burst that you mined and held from the beginning. i think you're putting the cart before the horse with all this worrying.

Those Peta, maybe even Exa, miners are inevitable if this coin really hit's off. But that would be a good thing because it would drive up demand and supply would slow down, which should increase the prices.

it would be funny if we could use the NSA's exabyte storage facility to mine this coin

Someone will eventually mine with Peta or higher, depending how popular this coin gets.

That would never happen with the NSA...lol

You do reach certain limits though with blocktime, read speed and instances of miners to submit deadlines fast enough.

[yaoxin]

Well at this point I completely give up. After mining this on 3 different computers with 3 different harddrives (1.5 TB, 1TB & 500MB) for over 1 week i've found ZERO blocks and have nothing but wasted HDD space. How are you guys doing it? I've ran my computers this continuously for over 1 week. Nothing. I've plotted successfully, followed the directions of some members who took their time to PM me with instructions and I have nothing to show for it.

Sorry for the rant, but i'm going to now go out and buy myself a steak burrito to reward myself for a job not so well done.
Thanks all!  

 

at present , seems very difficult to mine ... I have not found any block after changing to the new wallet 1.02.
but  before block 2700 (old wallet miing) I found many blocks. don't know the reason.  I am mining with 1.5 T HDD

[HunterS]

Well at this point I completely give up. After mining this on 3 different computers with 3 different harddrives (1.5 TB, 1TB & 500MB) for over 1 week i've found ZERO blocks and have nothing but wasted HDD space. How are you guys doing it? I've ran my computers this continuously for over 1 week. Nothing. I've plotted successfully, followed the directions of some members who took their time to PM me with instructions and I have nothing to show for it.

Sorry for the rant, but i'm going to now go out and buy myself a steak burrito to reward myself for a job not so well done.
Thanks all!  

 

at present , seems very difficult to mine ... I have not found any block after changing to the new wallet 1.02.
but  before block 2700 (old wallet miing) I found many blocks. don't know the reason.  I am mining with 1.5 T HDD

i have found 2 blocks since update with about 1.8 T

[callmejack]

Time for an observation on this coin and mining method, I'd like your input.

After a few days of reading on it, it seems that the only real mining equipment needed is some multi-TB hard drives, otherwise any old computer can eventually make the plot files and be good enough to mine on.

But therein lies a problem.  Cost of entry is low.  It won't be long before someone with huge storage capacity jacks the difficulty into the stratosphere.

You've seen what happened when ASICs came out for Bitcoin, and then for Scrypt coins.  Difficulty went sky high, everyone got less, and it takes a ton of money to even be a low level player.

So how long will it be before 100 TB worth of hard drives gets you one block per week?  Of an unknown, untested, unproven alt coin that could price crash at any time?

At least with BTC ASICs, their high price slowed the addition of them a bit.  Any jackhole here can call up Tiger Direct and order 100 4 TB drives at any time, and then we could see a run on large hard drives like what happened with GPUs last winter.

So part of me wants to get in on it, and part of me wants to say the hell with it, it's not worth the effort to be playing catch up and adding TBs of storage every few weeks.

And hard drives do not have good resale value.

And we are all solo mining now!  How long before Petabyte pools start on this coin?

What say you?

as you said used harddrives have no resell value cause they may break at anytime and you wont want to store important data on them.
companies replace disks almost every two years cause if drives in a raid start to fail it takes about two days to rebuild the raid even if there are hot spare drives in. cold or hot spare drives are useless after 2 years even if they were never used because you dont mix old with new hardware generations in production.
finally if you have the contacts you get 2tb sata disks for less than a few bucks. all you have to do is to connect them somehow.
the energy costs to run them including the computers for 1.5 pb is less than 10th of the latest sha asics require (excluding the plot generation).
the best difference compared to sha coins is that you can mine with regular hardware and that the only asic option for this coin is for plot generation.
in long term i could imagine a 1000$ usb3 plug which generates your plots at 30mb/s and becomes useless after a couple of days when the storage is filled up ;-)
i am pretty sure we will see a gpu plot generator very soon.
i hope someone starts to port the whole coin code away from java to c. otherwise i think it gets really hard for this coin to survive in long term.

[newuser01]

I keep getting this error when trying to create plots

Error: Could not find or load main class pocminer.POCMiner

And after I have tried it about 100000000 times it works, until I reboot

Can someone explain what the fuck is going on?

[sirdevil]

I keep getting this error when trying to create plots

Error: Could not find or load main class pocminer.POCMiner

And after I have tried it about 100000000 times it works, until I reboot

Can someone explain what the fuck is going on?

you need to change pocminer with pocminer_pool

[31049685]

Thanks for nxt gateway.i will buy more

[duncan_idaho]

I have plot 1.6 TB
My RAM is 3GB
Memory usage fluctuate between 35-70%

Once a day i have this error and miner stop mining.

ad.java:107)

java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space
        at pocminer.ScoopReader.readFile(ScoopReader.java:30)
        at pocminer.ScoopReader.onReceive(ScoopReader.java:18)
        at akka.actor.UntypedActor$$anonfun$receive$1.applyOrElse(UntypedActor.s
cala:167)
        at akka.actor.Actor$class.aroundReceive(Actor.scala:465)
        at akka.actor.UntypedActor.aroundReceive(UntypedActor.scala:97)
        at akka.actor.ActorCell.receiveMessage(ActorCell.scala:516)
        at akka.actor.ActorCell.invoke(ActorCell.scala:487)
        at akka.dispatch.Mailbox.processMailbox(Mailbox.scala:238)
        at akka.dispatch.Mailbox.run(Mailbox.scala:220)
        at akka.dispatch.ForkJoinExecutorConfigurator$AkkaForkJoinTask.exec(Abst
ractDispatcher.scala:393)
        at scala.concurrent.forkjoin.ForkJoinTask.doExec(ForkJoinTask.java:260)
        at scala.concurrent.forkjoin.ForkJoinPool$WorkQueue.runTask(ForkJoinPool
.java:1339)
        at scala.concurrent.forkjoin.ForkJoinPool.runWorker(ForkJoinPool.java:19
79)
        at scala.concurrent.forkjoin.ForkJoinWorkerThread.run(ForkJoinWorkerThre
ad.java:107)
java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space

What can i do with this ?

[unsoindovo]

WTS 100K BURST

pm me

[abctc]

Thanks for nxt gateway.i will buy more

 - you are welcome!  though it is not NXT, but BURST Gateway !

[dcct]

I have plot 1.6 TB
My RAM is 3GB
Memory usage fluctuate between 35-70%

Once a day i have this error and miner stop mining.

ad.java:107)

java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space
        at pocminer.ScoopReader.readFile(ScoopReader.java:30)
        at pocminer.ScoopReader.onReceive(ScoopReader.java:18)
        at akka.actor.UntypedActor$$anonfun$receive$1.applyOrElse(UntypedActor.s
cala:167)
        at akka.actor.Actor$class.aroundReceive(Actor.scala:465)
        at akka.actor.UntypedActor.aroundReceive(UntypedActor.scala:97)
        at akka.actor.ActorCell.receiveMessage(ActorCell.scala:516)
        at akka.actor.ActorCell.invoke(ActorCell.scala:487)
        at akka.dispatch.Mailbox.processMailbox(Mailbox.scala:238)
        at akka.dispatch.Mailbox.run(Mailbox.scala:220)
        at akka.dispatch.ForkJoinExecutorConfigurator$AkkaForkJoinTask.exec(Abst
ractDispatcher.scala:393)
        at scala.concurrent.forkjoin.ForkJoinTask.doExec(ForkJoinTask.java:260)
        at scala.concurrent.forkjoin.ForkJoinPool$WorkQueue.runTask(ForkJoinPool
.java:1339)
        at scala.concurrent.forkjoin.ForkJoinPool.runWorker(ForkJoinPool.java:19
79)
        at scala.concurrent.forkjoin.ForkJoinWorkerThread.run(ForkJoinWorkerThre
ad.java:107)
java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space

What can i do with this ?

increase -Xmx in your mine.bat/.sh a little

[Wulfcastle]

I have plot 1.6 TB
My RAM is 3GB
Memory usage fluctuate between 35-70%

Once a day i have this error and miner stop mining.

ad.java:107)

java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space
        at pocminer.ScoopReader.readFile(ScoopReader.java:30)
        at pocminer.ScoopReader.onReceive(ScoopReader.java:18)
        at akka.actor.UntypedActor$$anonfun$receive$1.applyOrElse(UntypedActor.s
cala:167)
        at akka.actor.Actor$class.aroundReceive(Actor.scala:465)
        at akka.actor.UntypedActor.aroundReceive(UntypedActor.scala:97)
        at akka.actor.ActorCell.receiveMessage(ActorCell.scala:516)
        at akka.actor.ActorCell.invoke(ActorCell.scala:487)
        at akka.dispatch.Mailbox.processMailbox(Mailbox.scala:238)
        at akka.dispatch.Mailbox.run(Mailbox.scala:220)
        at akka.dispatch.ForkJoinExecutorConfigurator$AkkaForkJoinTask.exec(Abst
ractDispatcher.scala:393)
        at scala.concurrent.forkjoin.ForkJoinTask.doExec(ForkJoinTask.java:260)
        at scala.concurrent.forkjoin.ForkJoinPool$WorkQueue.runTask(ForkJoinPool
.java:1339)
        at scala.concurrent.forkjoin.ForkJoinPool.runWorker(ForkJoinPool.java:19
79)
        at scala.concurrent.forkjoin.ForkJoinWorkerThread.run(ForkJoinWorkerThre
ad.java:107)
java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space

What can i do with this ?

It looks like the Java VM ran out of available memory to use. You must have mis-configured it to only use around 60% of available RAM instead of utilizing all available RAM. With that being said VM's require a lot of RAM to run intensive tasks, therefore I'd recommend adding more RAM to your setup, between 6GB-8GB and you should be fine.

[dcct]

It looks like the Java VM ran out of available memory to use. You must have mis-configured it to only use around 60% of available RAM instead of utilizing all available RAM. With that being said VM's require a lot of RAM to run intensive tasks, therefore I'd recommend adding more RAM to your setup, between 6GB-8GB and you should be fine.

If its too little system memory, the error looks like this:

java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: request <size> bytes for <reason>. Out of swap space?

In his case its just Heap Space - increase it and its ok.

[duncan_idaho]

Its not possible it 32bit machine so 3-4Gb is max. How can i reconfigure it to use 60% of RAM ?

[duncan_idaho]

What do you mean increase heap space ? The Xmx parameter in .bat file ?

[tricass]

It looks like the Java VM ran out of available memory to use. You must have mis-configured it to only use around 60% of available RAM instead of utilizing all available RAM. With that being said VM's require a lot of RAM to run intensive tasks, therefore I'd recommend adding more RAM to your setup, between 6GB-8GB and you should be fine.

If its too little system memory, the error looks like this:

java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: request <size> bytes for <reason>. Out of swap space?

In his case its just Heap Space - increase it and its ok.

this is correct. but sometimes you're constrained by what else is running on your system so you can't necessarily allocate too much mem which is happening in my case as i'm using the same pc to mine a cryptonote coin with the gpus. if you can increase the amount of physical mem that would help which is what i'm planning to do tonight, 4gb to 8bg.

[dcct]

What do you mean increase heap space ? The Xmx parameter in .bat file ?

Yes. Give it 200M extra and you'll be fine.