[ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New 1.2.3 Fork block 92000

[burstcoin]

fixed that now I get no valid shared to submit to pool after it says error reading file.  Wish I hadn't wiped my plots for this pool now....

Thats fine. the read error is just because the plot is still generating, and a 'valid share' is a share with a deadline less than 50000. Don't expect to get a valid share every block, and just let it run.

Hey, it's working for me now, and i have found a valid share, but not received any burst.....how long should it take? Am i missing something?

The next time the pool finds a block you will be paid.

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[omgbossis21]

can I pool mine and solo mine with the new plots?

[crowetic]

I just updated to JRE 64bit, wow, it's MUCH nicer. way more flexible, I should have done this a long time ago.

[eon89]

I am looking at the pool miner for the first time and 2 questions.

1. Where do I put the address generated at the pool site?

2. How do I make the plots for the pool?

[dogtor]

80k burst for sale. pm please!

[Vorksholk]

I am looking at the pool miner for the first time and 2 questions.

1. Where do I put the address generated at the pool site?

2. How do I make the plots for the pool?

Enter your address into the pool, pool will give you a numerical representation of an address the pool owns the private key to. Use this public address number to generate plots for, as if you were creating normal solo mining plots. When done, move the plots over to the pocminer_pool_v1 folder.

[Vorksholk]

can I pool mine and solo mine with the new plots?

Nope, the pool plots with the current protocol are only usable for mining to the pool you are generating them for. However, with an upcoming protocol addition, you will be able to 'sign away' blocks to a pool, allowing you to use private plots for pool mining.

I don't know how the dev plans to manage pool transition, but if he somehow gives the private keys to the pool mining addresses to their respective owners, those plots could be reused. However, this would be a logistical nightmare.

[Sglasio]

can help me?

Tell me pls... why blockchain not downloaded on 2 PC from work and home.... internet is good
in "recent block" 2700 block is last... 30 minutes ago... nothing.
In bottom right corner, wallet show me "blockchain downloading" ((((
Wallet 1.0.2

[burstcoin]

can help me?

Tell me pls... why blockchain not downloaded on 2 PC from work and home.... internet is good
in "recent block" 2700 block is last... 30 minutes ago... nothing.
In bottom right corner, wallet show me "blockchain downloading" ((((
Wallet 1.0.2

Try this:
shut down the wallet
delete the burst_db folder from the wallet's folder
start the wallet again, and see if it fully syncs.

[neite99]

can help me?

Tell me pls... why blockchain not downloaded on 2 PC from work and home.... internet is good
in "recent block" 2700 block is last... 30 minutes ago... nothing.
In bottom right corner, wallet show me "blockchain downloading" ((((
Wallet 1.0.2

Try this:
shut down the wallet
delete the burst_db folder from the wallet's folder
start the wallet again, and see if it fully syncs.

This guy (the Dev) knows his stuff. Try that.

[omgbossis21]

after pool plots are generated you have to move them?   so you cant mine while your plotting??

[burstcoin]

after pool plots are generated you have to move them?   so you cant mine while your plotting??

You can mine while plotting, but I just didn't include all the .bats in the poc pool zip, so either make a generate bat like pocminer except change pocminer.jar to pocminer_pool.jar, and pocminer.POCMiner to pcominer_pool.POCMiner, or just dump both regular and pool pocminer in the same folder and generate like usual, or even link the directories, anything that causes the plots to be generated where pocminer_pool is looking will work.

can help me?

Tell me pls... why blockchain not downloaded on 2 PC from work and home.... internet is good
in "recent block" 2700 block is last... 30 minutes ago... nothing.
In bottom right corner, wallet show me "blockchain downloading" ((((
Wallet 1.0.2

Try this:
shut down the wallet
delete the burst_db folder from the wallet's folder
start the wallet again, and see if it fully syncs.

This guy (the Dev) knows his stuff. Try that.

Well I already knew it was possible this might happen to someone. The difficulty is calculated locally when saving each block(it is not sent between peers), but it is never validated afterwards, just loaded and used. So if someone didn't upgrade before block 2700 they could have a correct block 2700 in the database with a wrong difficulty attached to it, so if they copied the database over to 1.0.2 and loaded it up, 1.0.2 would be loading the wrong difficulty and not know it, and reject valid 2701, effectively getting stuck. There's no easy way to just drop 2700 from the db, so resync is easiest fix at this time.

[tian9818]

WTS BURST 10K=0.03BTC  pm
I have 50K

[Sglasio]

can help me?

Tell me pls... why blockchain not downloaded on 2 PC from work and home.... internet is good
in "recent block" 2700 block is last... 30 minutes ago... nothing.
In bottom right corner, wallet show me "blockchain downloading" ((((
Wallet 1.0.2

Try this:
shut down the wallet
delete the burst_db folder from the wallet's folder
start the wallet again, and see if it fully syncs.

thx!!! Working!! ))

[CryptoSurfer]

Plan for v2 pools:

Now that we have basic pooling to allow new and/or lower hashrate users to mine, I'll be moving on to my original plan of version 2 pools.

A new transaction type will be added that will allow users to declare an alternate address which will receive block rewards instead of them, and sign blocks for them(just blocks, they won't be able to make transactions). New api calls will be added for sending that type of transaction, checking if an address is set for rewards to go elsewhere, and retrieving all address that point to an address.

A new pool will be made that simply supplies an address to declare your rewards to go to instead of registering. Users will then be able to use plots made for their own account(solo mining plots) on that pool. The pool will be able to tell from the api which accounts are pointed at it. The pool will be able to announce blocks on behalf of its users and collect the reward to distribute.

If a user wants to change pools, they will simply have to make a new reward declaration transaction to a new pool, wait for it to confirm, and then they can point their miners there.

 

Most fantastic solution. Great work dev.

[abctc]

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..

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[callmejack]

Plan for v2 pools:

Now that we have basic pooling to allow new and/or lower hashrate users to mine, I'll be moving on to my original plan of version 2 pools.

A new transaction type will be added that will allow users to declare an alternate address which will receive block rewards instead of them, and sign blocks for them(just blocks, they won't be able to make transactions). New api calls will be added for sending that type of transaction, checking if an address is set for rewards to go elsewhere, and retrieving all address that point to an address.

A new pool will be made that simply supplies an address to declare your rewards to go to instead of registering. Users will then be able to use plots made for their own account(solo mining plots) on that pool. The pool will be able to tell from the api which accounts are pointed at it. The pool will be able to announce blocks on behalf of its users and collect the reward to distribute.

If a user wants to change pools, they will simply have to make a new reward declaration transaction to a new pool, wait for it to confirm, and then they can point their miners there.

 

Most fantastic solution. Great work dev.

i like the idea of this approach.
is it possible to split the reward to several receipients to privately pool resources with other users?
this way someone could also create a burst asset and develop a toolset to lend plotfile resources for a fee in future.
everything would be stored in the blockchain ;-)
i think of a asset which warrants for a nonce range for a defined period of time to mine.
something like 100 assets exist, one asset is worth 200gb plotfiles for 1 month starting at date x for the nonce range 1-81810000 of the mining address.

[Sglasio]

i found bug on this site
http://burst.cryptoport.io


java -Xmx2048m -cp pocminer.jar:lib/*:lib/akka/*:lib/jetty/* pocminer.POCMiner generate

but java not working, becouse cmd line must be

java -Xmx2048m -cp pocminer.jar;lib/*;lib/akka/*;lib/jetty/* pocminer.POCMiner generate

[tibolt]

i think shares that under 50k has value 1 is wrong.
there must be different value for lower shares.
example:
40k-50k=1
30k-40k=2
20k-30k=3
10k-20k=4
5k-10k=5
0-5k=10

Because find 49k easier than 5k

Also a miner that have 8x500gb plots separately can generate under 50k block easily. between two block this miner's shares value total 8. other miner that have 3x5tb plots separately can generate lower shares but count will be 3 or 5. when block found lower plot owner can get more coins because of higher share rate. i think this is wrong.

Plan for v2 pools:

Now that we have basic pooling to allow new and/or lower hashrate users to mine, I'll be moving on to my original plan of version 2 pools.

A new transaction type will be added that will allow users to declare an alternate address which will receive block rewards instead of them, and sign blocks for them(just blocks, they won't be able to make transactions). New api calls will be added for sending that type of transaction, checking if an address is set for rewards to go elsewhere, and retrieving all address that point to an address.

A new pool will be made that simply supplies an address to declare your rewards to go to instead of registering. Users will then be able to use plots made for their own account(solo mining plots) on that pool. The pool will be able to tell from the api which accounts are pointed at it. The pool will be able to announce blocks on behalf of its users and collect the reward to distribute.

If a user wants to change pools, they will simply have to make a new reward declaration transaction to a new pool, wait for it to confirm, and then they can point their miners there.

[callmejack]

i think shares that under 50k has value 1 is wrong.
there must be different value for lower shares.
example:
40k-50k=1
30k-40k=2
20k-30k=3
10k-20k=4
5k-10k=5
0k-5k=10

Because find 49k easier than 5k

Plan for v2 pools:

Now that we have basic pooling to allow new and/or lower hashrate users to mine, I'll be moving on to my original plan of version 2 pools.

A new transaction type will be added that will allow users to declare an alternate address which will receive block rewards instead of them, and sign blocks for them(just blocks, they won't be able to make transactions). New api calls will be added for sending that type of transaction, checking if an address is set for rewards to go elsewhere, and retrieving all address that point to an address.

A new pool will be made that simply supplies an address to declare your rewards to go to instead of registering. Users will then be able to use plots made for their own account(solo mining plots) on that pool. The pool will be able to tell from the api which accounts are pointed at it. The pool will be able to announce blocks on behalf of its users and collect the reward to distribute.

If a user wants to change pools, they will simply have to make a new reward declaration transaction to a new pool, wait for it to confirm, and then they can point their miners there.

rating share values at pools was also with xpm a tough thing to do and resulted in many people leaving a pool for some time.
i think rating timeouts static during the share submission may work but the most fair way is to rate them after a block is found based on all submitted timeouts for this block and in relation to the final blocktime.
would have to be something like 5 million seconds timeouts were submitted in 300 shares.
average timeout 16.6k seconds. the effective blocktime may then be put somehow into this average share timeout as additional weighting.
shares above the average timeout get percentage based less reward and lower more.
sounds complex and is but gives low timeouts a advantage based on what the block really required.
the trouble with all this is that the idea of a pool is to share and distribute resources based on the work supplied and not how effective you supplied it in the current round.
if you want to get paid exactly for what you work on mine solo with one or more percent of the whole network size and get nothing if someone is faster than you.