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December 13, 2017, 02:51:54 AM
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Is there some reason the payouts per block are so low right now?

Im barely making .25 XMG per DAY and the stats dont look overloaded to me.
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December 13, 2017, 03:16:38 AM
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CPU mining can be dangerous because of botnets.
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December 13, 2017, 03:39:20 AM
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CPU mining can be dangerous because of botnets.

But the net hashrate isn't crazy high, its almost right where it needs to be.
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December 13, 2017, 09:21:24 AM
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CPU mining can be dangerous because of botnets.

But the net hashrate isn't crazy high, its almost right where it needs to be.

I see suprnova 91 Mh/s, minerclaim 74 Mh/s, zpool 42 Mh/s
Total over 200 Mh/s.  (without solo miners)
link : https://poolinfo.systms.org/#magi
The optimum lays around 40-50 Mh/s, for as far as I know.
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December 13, 2017, 09:24:41 AM
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CPU mining can be dangerous because of botnets.

But the net hashrate isn't crazy high, its almost right where it needs to be.

I see suprnova 91 Mh/s, minerclaim 74 Mh/s, zpool 42 Mh/s
Total over 200 Mh/s.  (without solo miners)
The optimum lays around 40-50 Mh/s, for as far as I know.
I buy XMG coin at 0.63$ then its suddenly dumps 0.42$.Can this coin pump again?
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December 13, 2017, 09:43:50 AM
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CPU mining can be dangerous because of botnets.

But the net hashrate isn't crazy high, its almost right where it needs to be.

I see suprnova 91 Mh/s, minerclaim 74 Mh/s, zpool 42 Mh/s
Total over 200 Mh/s.  (without solo miners)
The optimum lays around 40-50 Mh/s, for as far as I know.
I buy XMG coin at 0.63$ then its suddenly dumps 0.42$.Can this coin pump again?
Magi (team) has no influence on pumps or dumps.
For us the future of Magi is more important.
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bitcoin: bc1qyadvvyv29z08ln2ta7g3uqwzkscr7wq4p09wuz
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December 13, 2017, 10:50:02 AM
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I buy XMG coin at 0.63$ then its suddenly dumps 0.42$.Can this coin pump again?

Just HOLD them for awhile.
Our famous ninja pumper comes around almost every week.
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December 13, 2017, 11:03:23 AM
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I buy XMG coin at 0.63$ then its suddenly dumps 0.42$.Can this coin pump again?

Just HOLD them for awhile.
Our famous ninja pumper comes around almost every week.
I feel i lost my coins because maybe its not pump further......
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December 13, 2017, 11:15:22 AM
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I buy XMG coin at 0.63$ then its suddenly dumps 0.42$.Can this coin pump again?

Just HOLD them for awhile.
Our famous ninja pumper comes around almost every week.
I feel i lost my coins because maybe its not pump further......
Magi will reach much higher levels, even without that stupid pumper.
Just HOLD and you will see, or maybe even better, I buy more at this very low btc price.
I'm in with Magi from the start and still holding my coins.
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December 13, 2017, 11:20:43 AM
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I buy XMG coin at 0.63$ then its suddenly dumps 0.42$.Can this coin pump again?

Just HOLD them for awhile.
Our famous ninja pumper comes around almost every week.
I feel i lost my coins because maybe its not pump further......
Magi will reach much higher levels, even without that stupid pumper.
Just HOLD and you will see, or maybe even better, I buy more at this very low btc price.
I'm in with Magi from the start and still holding my coins.
Can you tell me how many days it can grow? This give me some peace.....
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December 13, 2017, 11:52:51 AM
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Can you tell me how many days it can grow? This give me some peace.....

well in my experience...  I started with magi 2 months ago bought 50xmg when the price was $0.21
it's now around $0.45

So keep calm and stake them or stuff them in cold storage for a while...
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December 13, 2017, 07:05:15 PM
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Can anyone share the math for figuring mining rewards for a given hashrate? I worked something out earlier and I think my numbers are coming out wrong.
I used the formula for BTC (B=(h*r*t*)/(2^32*D)) (which I suspect may be the issue) to figure the est. earnings per block for the last 14 days, then took that and averaged it out to come up with a "long term" estimate. Exact math as follows, using block 1592129 as an example:

dif. = 0.0102
reward = 0.11453505
time = 86400 (1 day in seconds)
hash = 100,000 (100kh in hash)

0.11453505/(2^32*0.0102) = 0.000000002614438178 (this is done for every block, independent of hashrate/time so the calculator works with different values)
0.000000002614438178*(100*1000)*86400 (values for hash and time can be changed to suit other needs, hour/day/week, etc. and for hashrates other than 100)

The basic break down is that the first part is done for every block, then this number is averaged for every block. Then, the other aspect that remains constant (hashrate) and the duration (time) are calculated after. Shouldn't matter that these come after because order of operations, if I'm not mistaken.

For the last 2 weeks, all 19195 blocks, the first part average is 0.000000001290530053. When appropriate values are added for time (in this case one day, 86400 seconds) and hashrate (in this case 100kh, 100000h), the "average" earning per day would be around 15.61 XMG a day, which seems far too high, especially given my mining and observations. Which leads me to believe there is a problem with my methods.

Is this just a case of "I have the wrong formula"? Have I accidentally done something wrong with my math? Could this have to do with pool mining vs. solo? Have I missed the point? Is XMG really this awesome and I've just been mining wrong?

Bear in mind, this isn't supposed to be a calculator for the future, rather a good, long term example that can be used as an estimate for the future. If over the period of the last week a consistent 100kh/s will net 15 XMG, then I feel safe assuming that earnings for the next week would be around 15, with what level of variance I'm not sure, but it's a start and to me much more applicable than the "current block estimate" calculator in the wallet. That said, is there any reason why this WOULDN'T work, even in the slightest, due to something I've missed in XMG's POW II system?
If someone smarter than me wants to help me out that would be great!  Smiley There is a reason I'm not a math major, after all.
If someone wants to comment on if this applicable/waste of time, useful or just interesting data, that too would be well appreciated! After all, there is probably something really dumb that I'm missing.

Last note, all data was taken from https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xmg/
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December 13, 2017, 10:02:14 PM
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Dev's please add https://tradesatoshi.com/Exchange?market=XMG_BTC to the list of exchanges

and

maybe it will be apear in https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/magi/#markets
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December 13, 2017, 10:27:43 PM
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Dev's please add https://tradesatoshi.com/Exchange?market=XMG_BTC to the list of exchanges

and

maybe it will be apear in https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/magi/#markets

He coolestcool, is that a new exchange for Magi?

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December 13, 2017, 10:28:21 PM
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Another new webpage for Magi here:

https://coincheckup.com/coins/magi/analysis

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December 13, 2017, 10:34:22 PM
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Dev's please add https://tradesatoshi.com/Exchange?market=XMG_BTC to the list of exchanges

and

maybe it will be apear in https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/magi/#markets

He coolestcool, is that a new exchange for Magi?

Its a trading platform an Exchange.... and it has Magi for trade in it, Amigo
https://tradesatoshi.com

PD: hablas español?
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December 13, 2017, 10:40:46 PM
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Dev's please add https://tradesatoshi.com/Exchange?market=XMG_BTC to the list of exchanges

and

maybe it will be apear in https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/magi/#markets

He coolestcool, is that a new exchange for Magi?

Its a trading platform an Exchange.... and it has Magi for trade in it, Amigo
https://tradesatoshi.com

PD: hablas español?
Ah ok thanks amigo. No i don't speek Spanish.
There are some people in Magi's telegram group speeking Spanish.

https://t.me/joinchat/GVNlf0KUl9wA2xZosHEVQw

bitcoin: bc1qyadvvyv29z08ln2ta7g3uqwzkscr7wq4p09wuz
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December 13, 2017, 10:48:49 PM
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Dev's please add https://tradesatoshi.com/Exchange?market=XMG_BTC to the list of exchanges

and

maybe it will be apear in https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/magi/#markets

He coolestcool, is that a new exchange for Magi?

Its a trading platform an Exchange.... and it has Magi for trade in it, Amigo
https://tradesatoshi.com

PD: hablas español?
Ah ok thanks amigo. No i don't speek Spanish.
There are some people in Magi's telegram group speeking Spanish.

https://t.me/joinchat/GVNlf0KUl9wA2xZosHEVQw

Great ill check it out
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December 14, 2017, 12:18:53 AM
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Can anyone share the math for figuring mining rewards for a given hashrate? I worked something out earlier and I think my numbers are coming out wrong.
I used the formula for BTC (B=(h*r*t*)/(2^32*D)) (which I suspect may be the issue) to figure the est. earnings per block for the last 14 days, then took that and averaged it out to come up with a "long term" estimate. Exact math as follows, using block 1592129 as an example:

dif. = 0.0102
reward = 0.11453505
time = 86400 (1 day in seconds)
hash = 100,000 (100kh in hash)

0.11453505/(2^32*0.0102) = 0.000000002614438178 (this is done for every block, independent of hashrate/time so the calculator works with different values)
0.000000002614438178*(100*1000)*86400 (values for hash and time can be changed to suit other needs, hour/day/week, etc. and for hashrates other than 100)

The basic break down is that the first part is done for every block, then this number is averaged for every block. Then, the other aspect that remains constant (hashrate) and the duration (time) are calculated after. Shouldn't matter that these come after because order of operations, if I'm not mistaken.

For the last 2 weeks, all 19195 blocks, the first part average is 0.000000001290530053. When appropriate values are added for time (in this case one day, 86400 seconds) and hashrate (in this case 100kh, 100000h), the "average" earning per day would be around 15.61 XMG a day, which seems far too high, especially given my mining and observations. Which leads me to believe there is a problem with my methods.

Is this just a case of "I have the wrong formula"? Have I accidentally done something wrong with my math? Could this have to do with pool mining vs. solo? Have I missed the point? Is XMG really this awesome and I've just been mining wrong?

Bear in mind, this isn't supposed to be a calculator for the future, rather a good, long term example that can be used as an estimate for the future. If over the period of the last week a consistent 100kh/s will net 15 XMG, then I feel safe assuming that earnings for the next week would be around 15, with what level of variance I'm not sure, but it's a start and to me much more applicable than the "current block estimate" calculator in the wallet. That said, is there any reason why this WOULDN'T work, even in the slightest, due to something I've missed in XMG's POW II system?
If someone smarter than me wants to help me out that would be great!  Smiley There is a reason I'm not a math major, after all.
If someone wants to comment on if this applicable/waste of time, useful or just interesting data, that too would be well appreciated! After all, there is probably something really dumb that I'm missing.

Last note, all data was taken from https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xmg/

I dont think you can forecast XMG with any type of accuracy do to the way it is designed. The more hashrate is thrown at the blockchain then the less  XMG that will come out of the current block. Over the last week we've had 45+ XMG block payouts and we've had <1 XMG payouts. Since people mining XMG wont maintain speed limits to maximize coins from a block, your calculation would need to involve some kind of average range, since a single average is pretty much impossible to calculate.
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December 14, 2017, 02:31:22 AM
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I'm in with Magi from the start and still holding my coins.

I am with magi all the way too. have not sold a single coin since i got a hold of it 2 years ago... Smiley

(and i am still newbie in the forum... lol)
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