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[skip60]

Ryno has coded shadowsend v2, and open sourced it.  It is now currently in the phase where that code is being peer reviewed and also compared with competitor solutions.  This is currently in process by qualified persons.  

And yes, Ryno deserves a Christmas break.  If you only knew how many hours he put into ZK.  He probably slept 8 hours for every 72 hours the last month.  Skip60, you contribute nothing to this project except negativity... you selling out would be a plus for shadow from my perspective.

Let the weak hands sell.  

compared to your quoted post above, this post of you is more mature

better you delete the previous one...you keep on showing shadow community's kiddish face to any negative comments written about the coin

[battbot]

Ryno has coded shadowsend v2, and open sourced it.  It is now currently in the phase where that code is being peer reviewed and also compared with competitor solutions.  This is currently in process by qualified persons.  

And yes, Ryno deserves a Christmas break.  If you only knew how many hours he put into ZK.  He probably slept 8 hours for every 72 hours the last month.  Skip60, you contribute nothing to this project except negativity... you selling out would be a plus for shadow from my perspective.

Let the weak hands sell.  

compared to your quoted post above, this post of you is more mature

better you delete the previous one...you keep on showing shadow community's kiddish face to any negative comments written about the coin

The only "kiddish face" I see is yours.  And I'm fairly confident everyone reading agrees. 

[dadon]

My wallet won't SYNC any ideas? i have like 12 connections but will not SNYC.

What version? You should be on 1.3.0.6.

yes im on the latest downloaded the bootstrap it was all working until yesterday

Obviously u tried restarting the wallet? And your PC maybe?

Launched my wallet a few mins ago and synced up fine. No probs here.

I always try to fix problems myself before asking, that is always the last option, yes i tried restarting my computer and my wallet.

[skip60]

Ryno has coded shadowsend v2, and open sourced it.  It is now currently in the phase where that code is being peer reviewed and also compared with competitor solutions.  This is currently in process by qualified persons.  

And yes, Ryno deserves a Christmas break.  If you only knew how many hours he put into ZK.  He probably slept 8 hours for every 72 hours the last month.  Skip60, you contribute nothing to this project except negativity... you selling out would be a plus for shadow from my perspective.

Let the weak hands sell.  

compared to your quoted post above, this post of you is more mature

better you delete the previous one...you keep on showing shadow community's kiddish face to any negative comments written about the coin

The only "kiddish face" I see is yours.  And I'm fairly confident everyone reading agrees. 

better we cut it here, what i see u deleted that post

[dadon]

My wallet won't SYNC any ideas? i have like 12 connections but will not SNYC.

What version? You should be on 1.3.0.6.

yes im on the latest downloaded the bootstrap it was all working until yesterday

I did request a noob friendly maintenance mode that would do some of these things so i assume it will come down in a furtur update.

try this in the Help>Debug Window>Console

Code:

rewindchain <number>

Note: replace "<number>" and put the amount of blocks you want to rewind. I would try going back a 100 blocks to start with. Then restart.

Code:

rewindchain 100

Thanks mate will do.

[MedaR]

l would like to see some PDF file about zero implementation and shadow coin features..with all those fancy graphics..
In details shadow to sdc , sdc to shadow ...
presentation or pdf ..if it is possible?
thanks..

[Pline]

Don't worry about price guys.  Stop panicking.  I have been watching the market on bittrex, and it really seems like mostly one large holder keeps dumping.  Maybe its a few different people, but I think it might be one guy.  Hes been waiting for larger buy orders and filling them all at once with like 25,000-30,000 SDC sells at once.  Its been happening for days. Seems like they have several hundred thousand SDC or maybe even millions.  Several hundred thousands of SDC have been dumped.

Just hold tight and don't worry though.  People are scooping up these cheap coins.  Do you realize how little liquidity is in this market? I am not sure exactly how much is needed, but possibly all it takes is like a 20 bitcoin market order to send the price to new highs.  All it takes is one whale to come in and look to buy a bunch of SDC.  Just hold tight, this project is going to get the attention it deserves.

Ryno seems like a cool guy, lay off him.  His job is to code, and not PR.  Look how much effort the devs have put into this coin.  That speaks for itself.  I believe the flu story, because the guy was probably working his arse off getting shadow send v2 ready and it takes a toll on your health when you don't sleep.

As for me, I am scooping some cheap coins.

[Pline]

l would like to see some PDF file about zero implementation and shadow coin features..with all those fancy graphics..
In details shadow to sdc , sdc to shadow ...
presentation or pdf ..if it is possible?
thanks..

CoolStoryTeller made something similar to this a few days ago.  I think its pretty good, check it out: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1yX2jN618Rnzs4g2ri_utdKdHbny6-xnRcPhOuhLNGB0/edit?pli=1#slide=id.g577a31a2a_086

[skip60]

Don't worry about price guys.  Stop panicking.  ..........  Its been happening for days. Seems like they have several hundred thousand SDC or maybe even millions.  Several hundred thousands of SDC have been dumped.

"Several hundred thousands of SDC have been dumped." you wrote it as if it is something good, are you serious man....

i am telling it again....

in order to prevent such sites, price moves which harms shadow, we need a market maker to stabilize the price...sell upon excessive demand to prevent hype and buy to prevent price push downs

big holders of shadow should organise that fund...what i see, shadow is not owned by strong investors who can punish such sites/people when needed...

now, shadow is like back garden of some people where they play anygame they want...

without stabilized price; marketplace, using shadow as a fiat, etc will be just dream

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Ryno seems like a cool guy, lay off him.  His job is to code, and not PR.  Look how much effort the devs have put into this coin.  That speaks for itself.  I believe the flu story, because the guy was probably working his arse off getting shadow send v2 ready and it takes a toll on your health when you don't sleep.

noone says, flue stroy is not real, we are talking about lack of communication which we have since the beginning

[svojoe]

I was around during the mining phase of SDC, I don't think anyone party ever obtained a million coins.    The most I had heard of anyone having was a few hundred thousand.  And that was a long time ago.  I doubt most of them held through our peaks into the mid 30's.     I think our distribution is improving by the day at these prices.   Granted I like I high price as much as anyone but this low price is helping to purify the large holders. Who knows if that is good.

[fearcoka]

I was around during the mining phase of SDC, I don't think anyone party ever obtained a million coins.    The most I had heard of anyone having was a few hundred thousand.  And that was a long time ago.  I doubt most of them held through our peaks into the mid 30's.     I think our distribution is improving by the day at these prices.   Granted I like I high price as much as anyone but this low price is helping to purify the large holders. Who knows if that is good.

The only problems I see with such distribution are the following.

-Large holders satisfied with 30-50% ROI. Using this to invest in other coins such as PayCoin who is hot right now.
-Those large holders keeping sell walls and pushing price down
-Not enough newcomers to invest into SDC therefore no buy support
-Those large holders sell off and do not rebuy into SDC.

-Downward spiral occurs unless we have a breakthrough in terms of media, articles and popularity.

[skip60]

I was around during the mining phase of SDC, I don't think anyone party ever obtained a million coins.    The most I had heard of anyone having was a few hundred thousand.  And that was a long time ago.  I doubt most of them held through our peaks into the mid 30's.     I think our distribution is improving by the day at these prices.   Granted I like I high price as much as anyone but this low price is helping to purify the large holders. Who knows if that is good.

you can not do the distributioan at low prices...

peak prices with very strong buy walls and strong uptreds are the good times for distribution...this is how it is done everywhere....not by pushing the price down...when price goes down, noone holds the falling blade

at sdc what is happening now and it will continue to happen unless there is a big news/miracle etc...

price will keep on going down...at some point, it will find support...from that support it will go up %30-40...then it will be dumped again to new bottom which is lover than the previous one...it will comtinue like that with new lower bottoms and lower spikes....

if some things doesnt change, we will all see what will be the price soon

[Coolstoryteller]

Hey Everyone,

Just spoke to Ryno he's had a nasty flu last few days.. He'll be on soon as he's on his feet to respond to inquiries.

Thanks all!

i am so fed up with huge lack of communication here, Ryno hardly writes something...

he published the whitepaper and then he didnt write a word  about it later on

there are lots of claims/critics/questions from other people about the zk release and whitepaper, but ryno keeps on being quite

because of his such behaviour; there are big questions in potential investors mind, there is lack of trust to coin, thread is full of garbage posts..... in the end it effects the price in negative way...investors will put money, but they will not get any info...they will be fully blind? if you can not gain trust of investors, then how come you increase/stabilize the price and have a mass adoption of the coin??? please answers me

core team members says that money is not important we dont care about the price, we deliver tech....if you keep on saying that price is not important we just care about the tech...then that is what you got in the end; you will be backgarden of some trade groups and scam websites...  no strong investors or traders comes to shadow...that is what you get

19k market price tells you what you will get in the end if you insist on that logic...it is better you wake up guys

dont tell me that it is christmas, new year, flu, etc...he always has the same behaviour, he did it before also...

dont tell me what i wrote makes people panic, what i am writing is the reality what lots of people sees but doesnt write

i have enough btc in my account to double my sdc amount, but i am done here

at the first uptrend, i will sell all my sdc..hopefully i find chance

Ryno has communicated here since the whitepaper release under 'Rynomster' his personal username. His lack of communication is due to the holiday period and his illness.. If you can't understand that then A) You've never been sick and B) You've never experienced a holiday

Skip60 what have you contributed to the project? The loudest one in the room tends to be the one not doing anything.

On the other hand, Ryno and the rest of the team has been slaving to complete ShadowSend since September and have delivered the best anon solution currently available. I think your criticism for developer absence is completely out of line and disrespectful for all the effort that has gone into the project. Constructive criticism is always welcome here but outright disrespect is not. Moving forward we could use people that actually appreciate the efforts our devs and team have put forth.

There was no pre-mine here and no ICO/IPO.. the devs here work because they like to build cool stuff, not deal with adolescent tantrums. The core product IS finished with minor improvements in the works.. We have anonymous transfers on the mainnet. It's the community's job here to spread the word in a respectful manner through various channels i.e. Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, article comments etc. AFAIK you have donated nothing to the project and you have contributed nothing to the project. Yet you speak to us as if we are your employees who have taken a leave of absence without notifying you. What gives you the right to be so disrespectful?

Our team has all the right in the world to take time off (given the hours they've put in) and spent it however they choose. Just like most of the developed world is on vacation right now or spending time with their families. Ryno on the other hand has been sick since last week.. Great vacation right? Work 18 hour days for 4 months straight and only take time off when you're sick..

Get a clue! The world doesn't revolve around you. Please do everyone a favor here and exit.

[oblox]

you can not do the distributioan at low prices...

peak prices with very strong buy walls and strong uptreds are the good times for distribution...this is how it is done everywhere....not by pushing the price down...when price goes down, noone holds the falling blade

Obviously distribution happens at market tops (and highs), but on the flip side there is accumulation which happens at lows and market bottoms. Just saying there are two sides to A&D. For every sell, there is an equal buy. I have no idea where SDC is in the cycle, nor do I care. Just wanted to address this.

[skip60]

Ryno has communicated here since the whitepaper release. His lack of communication is due to the holiday period and his illness..

i dont remember a promt clarification of ryno to fluffy and smooth who wrote at this thread maybe nonstop for 3-4 days

AFAIK you have donated nothing to the project and you have contributed nothing to the project. Yet you speak to us as if we are your employees who have taken a leave of absence without notifying you.

i keep on telling the same things since the beginning...it is not something i say due to his illness......even if i sell the coin, there will be time when i donate...and it will be a fair value, but i will donate to some people i chose...

Please do everyone a favor here and exit.

you are one of the most communicative, responsive and helpfull person here...i respect your ideas and appriciate the effort you put

with 10-15 core people without having some real investors, the coin will be worthless even if it has the best tech...and investors doesnt like to be blind, they like to get response
you can not finance the coin when there is no price increase or noone to sell....investors and mass adoption is the reason for price increase
investor puts money,creates the demand and this increases the price...that is all they do, dont expect them to take active role beside putting more money...that is how price increases

[Longenecker]

[fearcoka]

Guys come on were a team here let's become more of a family

[Pline]

Is a pump group unethical?  What if we just decided to all pump the price to 40,000 satoshi on January 7th?  Hey it worked for paycoin they just claim their coin is going to be worth 20 dollar, and bam the market eats it up.

[Wheatclove]

Ryno has communicated here since the whitepaper release. His lack of communication is due to the holiday period and his illness..

i dont remember a promt clarification of ryno to fluffy and smooth who wrote at this thread maybe nonstop for 3-4 days

AFAIK you have donated nothing to the project and you have contributed nothing to the project. Yet you speak to us as if we are your employees who have taken a leave of absence without notifying you.

i keep on telling the same things since the beginning...it is not something i say due to his illness......even if i sell the coin, there will be time when i donate...and it will be a fair value, but i will donate to some people i chose...

Please do everyone a favor here and exit.

you are one of the most communicative, responsive and helpfull person here...i respect your ideas and appriciate the effort you put

with 10-15 core people without having some real investors, the coin will be worthless even if it has the best tech...and investors doesnt like to be blind, they like to get response
you can not finance the coin when there is no price increase or noone to sell....investors and mass adoption is the reason for price increase
investor puts money,creates the demand and this increases the price...that is all they do, dont expect them to take active role beside putting more money...that is how price increases

the developers will work on their own time, not yours. they have lives outside of the work they do on this coin.  

[Coolstoryteller]

Ryno has communicated here since the whitepaper release. His lack of communication is due to the holiday period and his illness..

i dont remember a promt clarification of ryno to fluffy and smooth who wrote at this thread maybe nonstop for 3-4 days

AFAIK you have donated nothing to the project and you have contributed nothing to the project. Yet you speak to us as if we are your employees who have taken a leave of absence without notifying you.

i keep on telling the same things since the beginning...it is not something i say due to his illness......even if i sell the coin, there will be time when i donate...and it will be a fair value, but i will donate to some people i chose...

Please do everyone a favor here and exit.

you are one of the most communicative, responsive and helpfull person here...i respect your ideas and appriciate the effort you put

with 10-15 core people without having some real investors, the coin will be worthless even if it has the best tech...and investors doesnt like to be blind, they like to get response
you can not finance the coin when there is no price increase or noone to sell....investors and mass adoption is the reason for price increase
investor puts money,creates the demand and this is h...that is all they do, dont expect them to take active role beside putting more money...that is how price increases

Sure I appreciate the recognition, but you're still missing the point. This is an open sourced community project, not a financed one. The correct term is called 'donationware' where the team works off of donations instead of salaries. Bitcoin is successful because it has tons of proactive holders, who in most cases have zero direct communication with the developers. Those proactive holders spread the word, build supporting services or get supporting services to support Bitcoin.

Rome wasn't built in a day.. Things take time to mature. We have everything lined up for a successful project. But there are phases the project needs to go through before maturity.. Since July-December (last week) the project has been in a speculation period on how it will achieve anonymity. Now that we have achieved unique anonymity the project has transitioned into a technical review phase. As you can tell by the new faces on the thread it's clear we are in that phase. The next phase is awareness, press and adoption. Each of the former compliments the latter. Complaining doesn't help anyone here.. contribution does.

Start looking at this as a for what it is: a real project which goes through the phases listed above, instead of a short term gain catalyst and you'll see where I'm coming from.