[XMR] Monero Speculation

[prabakharras]

Robinhood Crypto announced today. Starts with BTC and ETH no-fee trades, but starts with market data for XMR and a few others, so expect RC to do no-fee order flow on more tickers soon-ish.

And: tighter capital controls will always be very very good for Monero.

Anyone else think that Coinbase's new competition from Robinhood Crypto may prompt them to hastily add more coins (e.g. Monero)?

They should be watching carefully.  But isn't Robinhood being rolled out in only a few US states as of now?  And they will also only trade BTC and ETH so far?

No fees from robinhood but nothing making them not charge higher premium into the coin

[Nathan047]

Take care, a phone has a lot of vulnerabilities when compared to best practices.  Use with burnable amounts.  But ya, it's an awesome app.  I've been used to using mymonero.com for such purposes, and this much easier and more convenient.  Add a hardware wallet for topping up, you are safe and versatile.  Soon^TM

Actually an Android phone is probably mores secure that a Windows PC because it runs all apps in a virtual machine. Of course though there's always the risk of your phone being stolen and went through if you don't have a password or gave the password to the person who decided to go through your phone.

[konflikkastil]

monero is very good and continues to grow, if you still hold this coin then hold it because this will greatly benefit you, I think the future of monero will still skyrocket

[devis]

I was at a crypto conference in San Fran about two weeks ago and a guy said during his talk said that XMR will be most likely be used for drug money so it's probably worth buying some hahaha. I don't know what the future price will be but I feel good about XMR.

[explorer]

Take care, a phone has a lot of vulnerabilities when compared to best practices.  Use with burnable amounts.  But ya, it's an awesome app.  I've been used to using mymonero.com for such purposes, and this much easier and more convenient.  Add a hardware wallet for topping up, you are safe and versatile.  Soon^TM

Actually an Android phone is probably mores secure that a Windows PC because it runs all apps in a virtual machine. Of course though there's always the risk of your phone being stolen and went through if you don't have a password or gave the password to the person who decided to go through your phone.

Well that goes without saying.  Windows is self described as malware, if you read the fine print.  Nowhere will you find Windows included in ''best practices' 

[Globb0]

Take care, a phone has a lot of vulnerabilities when compared to best practices.  Use with burnable amounts.  But ya, it's an awesome app.  I've been used to using mymonero.com for such purposes, and this much easier and more convenient.  Add a hardware wallet for topping up, you are safe and versatile.  Soon^TM

Actually an Android phone is probably mores secure that a Windows PC because it runs all apps in a virtual machine. Of course though there's always the risk of your phone being stolen and went through if you don't have a password or gave the password to the person who decided to go through your phone.

Well that goes without saying.  Windows is self described as malware, if you read the fine print.  Nowhere will you find Windows included in ''best practices' 

But who knows what that app you downloaded to put monkey lips on pictures of your family? you gave it file access. Maybe it will just grab any wallet . dat files etc. too.


Who can realy call any phone safe?

[Red_Sanford]

Take care, a phone has a lot of vulnerabilities when compared to best practices.  Use with burnable amounts.  But ya, it's an awesome app.  I've been used to using mymonero.com for such purposes, and this much easier and more convenient.  Add a hardware wallet for topping up, you are safe and versatile.  Soon^TM

Actually an Android phone is probably mores secure that a Windows PC because it runs all apps in a virtual machine. Of course though there's always the risk of your phone being stolen and went through if you don't have a password or gave the password to the person who decided to go through your phone.

Well that goes without saying.  Windows is self described as malware, if you read the fine print.  Nowhere will you find Windows included in ''best practices' 

But who knows what that app you downloaded to put monkey lips on pictures of your family? you gave it file access. Maybe it will just grab any wallet . dat files etc. too.


Who can realy call any phone safe?

That's what I was thinking. This is why there are no games or such on my phone. They want access to everything. files/Pictures/contacts ...We all know about the clipboard weakness as well. I always think of my phone as being a very weak link.

[aminorex]

Pixel XL with CopperheadOS with microG is interesting now, Librem5 later.  Keep one phone as a crypto/wallet/banking/trading/2fa ghetto, with signal for comms, and a separate one for running various other apps, making calls and taking photos, whatever.  Different colors at least can help keep them straight.  It's a nice hot accessory for your cooler hardware wallet.  I find gps spoofers and orbot essential.  Mostly you need to develop habits which insure compartmentalization and protect against  exogenous linking metadata and endogenous info leakage between compartments .

[explorer]

Pixel XL with CopperheadOS looks interesting now, Librem5 later.

Waiting for a Librem is an art form.  Not to worry, there's plenty of time and other models to practice with

[Hueristic]

Well, Well, well...

https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/7smm8r/friedman_llp_website_no_longer_lists_bitfinex_as/

[Hueristic]

Pixel XL with CopperheadOS looks interesting now, Librem5 later.

Waiting for a Librem is an art form.  Not to worry, there's plenty of time and other models to practice with

So does Purism have Meldown and Spectre patches yet?

[explorer]

Pixel XL with CopperheadOS looks interesting now, Librem5 later.

Waiting for a Librem is an art form.  Not to worry, there's plenty of time and other models to practice with

So does Purism have Meldown and Spectre patches yet?

https://puri.sm/posts/purism-patches-meltdown-and-spectre-variant-2-both-included-in-all-new-librem-laptops/

Unfortunately, at the moment, patching Spectre variant 2 requires applying a proprietary CPU microcode update from Intel.

Not ideal, but presumably not stopping there.

[Hueristic]

Pixel XL with CopperheadOS looks interesting now, Librem5 later.

Waiting for a Librem is an art form.  Not to worry, there's plenty of time and other models to practice with

So does Purism have Meldown and Spectre patches yet?

https://puri.sm/posts/purism-patches-meltdown-and-spectre-variant-2-both-included-in-all-new-librem-laptops/

Unfortunately, at the moment, patching Spectre variant 2 requires applying a proprietary CPU microcode update from Intel.

Not ideal, but presumably not stopping there.

I thought the performance hit for the patches was just cpu but I guess it's really hitting random writes hard (at least on intels). Looks like all the Intel bios patches have been pulled, there have been some really bad reports from the manufacturers on those patches. I'm really looking forward to Zen2, glad I ended up having to hold off even though Zen and Zen+ are barely effected.

[solias]

Hello! Who can intelligibly explain what pushes the price of a coin? Is it worth it to sit on the longevity, or fix the profit and exit it? Are there fundamental events in 2018?

A. Supply and demand.

B. If the estimated return distribution over time fits your goals better than any alternative allocation, you should not adjust your allocation.

C. Some expected fundamental events in 2018:  

* The everything bubble - stocks, bonds, real estate - stops inflating as China slows or (ZOMG!!) reverses US sovereign bond flows.

* Oil price rises as ROEI declines, dragging hard money prices up with it, and retarding the global productivity curve.

* Crypto correction hits BTC first, later ETH.  BTC snaps back with Lightning.  

* XMR demand rises with improvements to:

1. Ease of use (e.g. native iOS wallet, multisig in core GUI, hardware wallets);

2. access (direct USD exchange);

3. privacy (Kovri);

4. scalability (bullet proofs); and,

5. further market penetration and expanding transaction volume (Globee, DNMs).

* XMR supply drops with increasing difficulty, reduced rewards, rising reserve demand.

But the real wild card is the potential for a hyperinflation crisis in the FX majors.  This becomes much more likely if strategic polarization or nationalism break the central banking quid pro quo balance.  The Chinese bond flow news could be the first big crack in the dam, or not.

listing of COIN?

[Nevermind344]

XMR its a one of most anonymous currencies with a scaling system and other vital features for crypto competition in 2018. Also Monero have a high block revard (0.3 XMR) that makes it profitable for miners. XMR, with no doubt, will reach 1000$-1500$ this year.

[alyssa85]

Rumour of a "merger" between Monero and Litecoin:

https://bitcoinist.com/possible-litecoin-monero-merger-steps-closer-reality/

Charlie Lee admits his ambition to work with Monero in a series of tweets he posted yesterday, claiming that Litecoin’s liquidity would be a good fit for Monero’s anonymity and fungibility.

Monero (XMR) creator Riccardo Spagni and Litecoin (LTC) creator Charlie Lee would appear to be taking tentative baby steps in potentially bringing their two coins closer. Spagni posted the following tweet yesterday, which first bandied the idea of a possible merger between the two cryptocurrencies:

"Such a productive few days, finally got to sit down with @SatoshiLite and talk about a possible merger between the Litecoin Enterprise Alliance and the Monero Enterprise Alliance, which we’d obviously call the LAMEA. #blessed #justblockchainthings"

Lee, who has professed a desire for increased anonymity in the past with regard to Litecoin,  was quick to respond in his own indomitable manner with his own series of tweets:

"Although @fluffypony was kidding here, I think it would be good for Litecoin and Monero (2 of the top non-scam coins 😄) to work together. A while back, I proposed to him that we work on making it easy for people to do on-chain atomic swaps of LTC and XMR in a decentralized way."

[cAPSLOCK]

Rumour of a "merger" between Monero and Litecoin:

https://bitcoinist.com/possible-litecoin-monero-merger-steps-closer-reality/

Charlie Lee admits his ambition to work with Monero in a series of tweets he posted yesterday, claiming that Litecoin’s liquidity would be a good fit for Monero’s anonymity and fungibility.

Monero (XMR) creator Riccardo Spagni and Litecoin (LTC) creator Charlie Lee would appear to be taking tentative baby steps in potentially bringing their two coins closer. Spagni posted the following tweet yesterday, which first bandied the idea of a possible merger between the two cryptocurrencies:

"Such a productive few days, finally got to sit down with @SatoshiLite and talk about a possible merger between the Litecoin Enterprise Alliance and the Monero Enterprise Alliance, which we’d obviously call the LAMEA. #blessed #justblockchainthings"

Lee, who has professed a desire for increased anonymity in the past with regard to Litecoin,  was quick to respond in his own indomitable manner with his own series of tweets:

"Although @fluffypony was kidding here, I think it would be good for Litecoin and Monero (2 of the top non-scam coins ) to work together. A while back, I proposed to him that we work on making it easy for people to do on-chain atomic swaps of LTC and XMR in a decentralized way."

Lol, fluffiy is a freaking master troll.  I hope someday to have a beer with him.

That said, I believe deepening the relationship between XMR and LTC would be super positive.  And for LTC to be able to claim to have performed both the first ever atomic swap AND the first ever atomic swap with a non BTC codebase crypto would be killer.  And I think the liquidity a LTC/XMR atomic connection would provide mixed with it's novelty would benefit both communities.

[Hueristic]

Rumour of a "merger" between Monero and Litecoin:

https://bitcoinist.com/possible-litecoin-monero-merger-steps-closer-reality/

Charlie Lee admits his ambition to work with Monero in a series of tweets he posted yesterday, claiming that Litecoin’s liquidity would be a good fit for Monero’s anonymity and fungibility.

Monero (XMR) creator Riccardo Spagni and Litecoin (LTC) creator Charlie Lee would appear to be taking tentative baby steps in potentially bringing their two coins closer. Spagni posted the following tweet yesterday, which first bandied the idea of a possible merger between the two cryptocurrencies:

"Such a productive few days, finally got to sit down with @SatoshiLite and talk about a possible merger between the Litecoin Enterprise Alliance and the Monero Enterprise Alliance, which we’d obviously call the LAMEA. #blessed #justblockchainthings"

Lee, who has professed a desire for increased anonymity in the past with regard to Litecoin,  was quick to respond in his own indomitable manner with his own series of tweets:

"Although @fluffypony was kidding here, I think it would be good for Litecoin and Monero (2 of the top non-scam coins ) to work together. A while back, I proposed to him that we work on making it easy for people to do on-chain atomic swaps of LTC and XMR in a decentralized way."

Lol, fluffiy is a freaking master troll.  I hope someday to have a beer with him.

That said, I believe deepening the relationship between XMR and LTC would be super positive.  And for LTC to be able to claim to have performed both the first ever atomic swap AND the first ever atomic swap with a non BTC codebase crypto would be killer.  And I think the liquidity a LTC/XMR atomic connection would provide mixed with it's novelty would benefit both communities.

Lol, that was a funny exchange! Decentralized LTC/XMR pair would kick some serious butt, but I though I read CT (or what was it/ shit forgot) makes xmr incompatible with atomic swaps unless the chain is locked?

[equipoise]

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That said, I believe deepening the relationship between XMR and LTC would be super positive.  And for LTC to be able to claim to have performed both the first ever atomic swap AND the first ever atomic swap with a non BTC codebase crypto would be killer.  And I think the liquidity a LTC/XMR atomic connection would provide mixed with it's novelty would benefit both communities.

The first ever 'atomic cross-chain transaction' was between Burst and Qora on May 17, 2015. Extremely efficient implementation was used, based on this AT Turing complete smart contracts implementation (2014, before Ethereum):

Automated Transactions (AT) is a technology created by CIYAM Developers which provides "Turing complete smart contracts" for any blockchain that implements it (http://ciyam.org/at).

Recently the AT developers produced a Crowdfund application that only requires 25 machine code steps (which is ridiculously small) and that is running on a blockchain now (the Burst blockchain). This is the most efficient Crowdfund application in existence - not only is it incredibly efficient but it is also 100% decentralised!

Although we are having troubles with getting any attention (hopefully some smart marketing people will notice this project and consider contacting us) we have already achieved "two world firsts" which we intend to follow up with more ground breaking ATs (which are under development now).

#1 - The world's first completely decentralised Lottery (i.e. no website and no central control) was launched in January 2015.

#2 - The world's first completely decentralised Crowdfunding application (i.e. no website and no central control) was launched in February 2015.

A couple of great tools for those keen to develop their own ATs can be found here (thanks to @burstcoin):

https://github.com/BurstProject/ATAssembler
https://github.com/BurstProject/ATDebugger

[explorer]

Rumour of a "merger" between Monero and Litecoin:

https://bitcoinist.com/possible-litecoin-monero-merger-steps-closer-reality/

Charlie Lee admits his ambition to work with Monero in a series of tweets he posted yesterday, claiming that Litecoin’s liquidity would be a good fit for Monero’s anonymity and fungibility.

Monero (XMR) creator Riccardo Spagni and Litecoin (LTC) creator Charlie Lee would appear to be taking tentative baby steps in potentially bringing their two coins closer. Spagni posted the following tweet yesterday, which first bandied the idea of a possible merger between the two cryptocurrencies:

"Such a productive few days, finally got to sit down with @SatoshiLite and talk about a possible merger between the Litecoin Enterprise Alliance and the Monero Enterprise Alliance, which we’d obviously call the LAMEA. #blessed #justblockchainthings"

Lee, who has professed a desire for increased anonymity in the past with regard to Litecoin,  was quick to respond in his own indomitable manner with his own series of tweets:

"Although @fluffypony was kidding here, I think it would be good for Litecoin and Monero (2 of the top non-scam coins 😄) to work together. A while back, I proposed to him that we work on making it easy for people to do on-chain atomic swaps of LTC and XMR in a decentralized way."

Never heard of bitcoinist.com, I assume it is a subsidiary of The Onion?  Anyone who either read the tweets or knows these guys' reputations, got a good laugh, I guess.  How long before Coindesk and CNN pick this up