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February 09, 2018, 09:09:14 PM
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0.03 is the new 0.02!
Yes, and all the people that are patient enough can say in maybe 1-2 years that "0.1 ist the new 0.09".

I am extremely optimistic about legit anon currencies mid/long term.

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February 10, 2018, 01:01:48 AM
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I'm not going to trust Trex due to them shutting down US and the fact I think the market will become rational soon and it will go Gox when USDT goes boom.



I *think* you are confusing Bittrex and Bitfinex?
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February 10, 2018, 02:26:33 AM
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0.03 is the new 0.02!

I think similar. If you look at the chart you can see that Monero is trying to leave 0.02 btc areas behind and looking for 0.03-0.04 area without turning back again. I think the upcoming MoneroV fork will help Monero value increase and will not see below 0.03 again. Current status in coinmarketcap is under top 10, and Monero definitely needs to be in top 10 with its popularity and daily usage

monero is in the top ten.

filter non-mineable, then filter scam coins.

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February 10, 2018, 02:47:14 AM
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I'm not going to trust Trex due to them shutting down US and the fact I think the market will become rational soon and it will go Gox when USDT goes boom.



I *think* you are confusing Bittrex and Bitfinex?

I think you are correct! Smiley

AFA Bittrex, I saw quite a few issues with withdrawals when checking them out so never rechecked. Has that been addressed or am I misremebering that as well? Cheesy

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February 10, 2018, 03:12:39 AM
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I'm not going to trust Trex due to them shutting down US and the fact I think the market will become rational soon and it will go Gox when USDT goes boom.



I *think* you are confusing Bittrex and Bitfinex?

I think you are correct! Smiley

AFA Bittrex, I saw quite a few issues with withdrawals when checking them out so never rechecked. Has that been addressed or am I misremebering that as well? Cheesy
Well... its purely anecdotal but I have had exactly ZERO problems with Bittrex.  To be honest I am not sure why they don't have more volume.  Verified accounts can withdraw 100BTC at a time.

But seriously YMMV... I have done very little volume with them.
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February 10, 2018, 04:31:26 AM
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0.03 is the new 0.02!
XMR will slowly beat the shit out of DASH in valuation, XMR has no FOMO but only true development. I am just waiting for the next updates from foundation.

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I'm not going to trust Trex due to them shutting down US and the fact I think the market will become rational soon and it will go Gox when USDT goes boom.



I *think* you are confusing Bittrex and Bitfinex?

I think you are correct! Smiley

AFA Bittrex, I saw quite a few issues with withdrawals when checking them out so never rechecked. Has that been addressed or am I misremebering that as well? Cheesy
Well... its purely anecdotal but I have had exactly ZERO problems with Bittrex.  To be honest I am not sure why they don't have more volume.  Verified accounts can withdraw 100BTC at a time.

But seriously YMMV... I have done very little volume with them.
When I was about to sign up there, I read the user agreement.  NEVER do that lol!  Scared me away.
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February 10, 2018, 05:02:15 AM
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0.03 is the new 0.02!
XMR will slowly beat the shit out of DASH in valuation, XMR has no FOMO but only true development. I am just waiting for the next updates from foundation.

there's a Monero Foundation?


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Ok I'm a couple of paragraphs into this MoneroV-Roadmap and I can say with certainty this is complete fud.

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Unfortunately, Monero has suffered from several drawbacks.
Please continue. Lets hear about all these drawbacks.


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For example, Monero's infinite coin supply
Bullshit. The tail emission is useful. It's a great feature. It means that there will always be a reward for miners and if you look at the amount that is being produced it will never create significant inflation and so never negatively impact users except to the extent which they are paying for the necessary service of securing the blockchain.


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the centralization of decision making that prevents the implementation of new features
This is wrong on multiple levels. It's like an onion. It has layers of wrong. First of all the decision making is not centralized. Has anyone ever submitted a useful pull request and had it denied by some sort of monero overlord? Second if monero were centralized that would ASSIST in the smooth implementation of new features. One could argue that it wouldn't be worth the cost but it would help new features be implemented more easily. And finally, monero has no problem implementing new features. Our dev team implements new features all the time.


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The scaling issue of a bloated blockchain, the high transaction fees
This problem is hard. Lets see you guys go solve it so easly. You say you are going to. Well I'll believe it when I see it. And you have to do it without breaking any of the existing core features. That means RingCT must remain intact. Better get to work.


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and the growing hash rate that is mainly based on mass usage of botents and unsuspected browser based miners that prevents genuine miners to compete.
First of all, who the hell cares where hashing power comes from? Who are you to judge that a botnet isn't "a genuine miner". What they are doing may be unethical but it doesn't make their hashrate contribution not genuine. And how are you going to solve this anyway? It is a natural outgrowth of the fact that one of moneros useful and good features is that cpu's are competitive with gpu's and it is ASIC resistant.


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Some critical flaws that cannot be fixed rapidly due to Monero's voluntary donation based development process has deterred Monero’s widespread adoption.
Oh yea let me tell you. It's such a problem that no one premined monero. That's just what we need. Some brave soul to fix that problem for us.


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Due to these circumstances, it is better to create a hard-fork split that will indefinitely fix these problems.
Oh someone is going to fall on that sword for us! Chivalry isn't dead.


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MoneroV adheres to core Austrian school of economics principles and caps the total amount of XMV coins that can be created to 256 million
Right because the Austrians dont support a gold standard or anything, and gold doesn't have, oh lets see, a tail emission. GTFO.


That's it guys. I think I'm going to lose my lunch if I go any further. This is far enough.

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February 10, 2018, 05:46:33 AM
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Ok I'm a couple of paragraphs into this MoneroV-Roadmap and I can say with certainty this is complete fud.

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Unfortunately, Monero has suffered from several drawbacks.
Please continue. Lets hear about all these drawbacks.


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For example, Monero's infinite coin supply
Bullshit. The tail emission is useful. It's a great feature. It means that there will always be a reward for miners and if you look at the amount that is being produced it will never create significant inflation and so never negatively impact users except to the extent which they are paying for the necessary service of securing the blockchain.


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the centralization of decision making that prevents the implementation of new features
This is wrong on multiple levels. It's like an onion. It has layers of wrong. First of all the decision making is not centralized. Has anyone ever submitted a useful pull request and had it denied by some sort of monero overlord? Second if monero were centralized that would ASSIST in the smooth implementation of new features. One could argue that it wouldn't be worth the cost but it would help new features be implemented more easily. And finally, monero has no problem implementing new features. Our dev team implements new features all the time.


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The scaling issue of a bloated blockchain, the high transaction fees
This problem is hard. Lets see you guys go solve it so easly. You say you are going to. Well I'll believe it when I see it. And you have to do it without breaking any of the existing core features. That means RingCT must remain intact. Better get to work.


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and the growing hash rate that is mainly based on mass usage of botents and unsuspected browser based miners that prevents genuine miners to compete.
First of all, who the hell cares where hashing power comes from? Who are you to judge that a botnet isn't "a genuine miner". What they are doing may be unethical but it doesn't make their hashrate contribution not genuine. And how are you going to solve this anyway? It is a natural outgrowth of the fact that one of moneros useful and good features is that cpu's are competitive with gpu's and it is ASIC resistant.


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Some critical flaws that cannot be fixed rapidly due to Monero's voluntary donation based development process has deterred Monero’s widespread adoption.
Oh yea let me tell you. It's such a problem that no one premined monero. That's just what we need. Some brave soul to fix that problem for us.


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Due to these circumstances, it is better to create a hard-fork split that will indefinitely fix these problems.
Oh someone is going to fall on that sword for us! Chivalry isn't dead.


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MoneroV adheres to core Austrian school of economics principles and caps the total amount of XMV coins that can be created to 256 million
Right because the Austrians dont support a gold standard or anything, and gold doesn't have, oh lets see, a tail emission. GTFO.


That's it guys. I think I'm going to lose my lunch if I go any further. This is far enough.

So  you didn't get to the part where they are keeping 10% of the coins off the top for themselves?  ROFL 
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Some critical flaws that cannot be fixed rapidly due to Monero's voluntary donation based development process has deterred Monero’s widespread adoption.
Oh yea let me tell you. It's such a problem that no one premined monero. That's just what we need. Some brave soul to fix that problem for us.


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Due to these circumstances, it is better to create a hard-fork split that will indefinitely fix these problems.
Oh someone is going to fall on that sword for us! Chivalry isn't dead.
So  you didn't get to the part where they are keeping 10% of the coins off the top for themselves?  ROFL  

No but I did correctly assume.

You know I said the following earlier.

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What is their gripe with the current leadership? What pull request were they unable to get merged?

Turns out we found their gripe. It appears the problem is that the dev team wouldn't give them 10% of the currency supply! Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy No but seriously... I know that feeling. I have that same problem!

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February 10, 2018, 09:22:47 AM
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Ok I'm a couple of paragraphs into this MoneroV-Roadmap and I can say with certainty this is complete fud.

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Unfortunately, Monero has suffered from several drawbacks.
Please continue. Lets hear about all these drawbacks.


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For example, Monero's infinite coin supply
Bullshit. The tail emission is useful. It's a great feature. It means that there will always be a reward for miners and if you look at the amount that is being produced it will never create significant inflation and so never negatively impact users except to the extent which they are paying for the necessary service of securing the blockchain.


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the centralization of decision making that prevents the implementation of new features
This is wrong on multiple levels. It's like an onion. It has layers of wrong. First of all the decision making is not centralized. Has anyone ever submitted a useful pull request and had it denied by some sort of monero overlord? Second if monero were centralized that would ASSIST in the smooth implementation of new features. One could argue that it wouldn't be worth the cost but it would help new features be implemented more easily. And finally, monero has no problem implementing new features. Our dev team implements new features all the time.


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The scaling issue of a bloated blockchain, the high transaction fees
This problem is hard. Lets see you guys go solve it so easly. You say you are going to. Well I'll believe it when I see it. And you have to do it without breaking any of the existing core features. That means RingCT must remain intact. Better get to work.


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and the growing hash rate that is mainly based on mass usage of botents and unsuspected browser based miners that prevents genuine miners to compete.
First of all, who the hell cares where hashing power comes from? Who are you to judge that a botnet isn't "a genuine miner". What they are doing may be unethical but it doesn't make their hashrate contribution not genuine. And how are you going to solve this anyway? It is a natural outgrowth of the fact that one of moneros useful and good features is that cpu's are competitive with gpu's and it is ASIC resistant.


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Some critical flaws that cannot be fixed rapidly due to Monero's voluntary donation based development process has deterred Monero’s widespread adoption.
Oh yea let me tell you. It's such a problem that no one premined monero. That's just what we need. Some brave soul to fix that problem for us.


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Due to these circumstances, it is better to create a hard-fork split that will indefinitely fix these problems.
Oh someone is going to fall on that sword for us! Chivalry isn't dead.


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MoneroV adheres to core Austrian school of economics principles and caps the total amount of XMV coins that can be created to 256 million
Right because the Austrians dont support a gold standard or anything, and gold doesn't have, oh lets see, a tail emission. GTFO.


That's it guys. I think I'm going to lose my lunch if I go any further. This is far enough.

Thanks for dealing with this, I read it a day or two back and was fuming, too.

But if the information is disseminating, a proper critique is good to have on record.  

On the upside imitation is the sincerest form of flattery - so for a fork to happen does actually confer status on Monero, shit coins are not often forked, just good ones.   Yes, it's annoying, but it will not hurt Monero, just increase awareness.  It cannot be better, but it can increase the value (and price) of the coin it poorly imitates.

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February 10, 2018, 09:34:30 AM
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good time to buy
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February 10, 2018, 09:35:23 AM
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Fork is at least starting at the point of monero.

The lazier scams were even just monero "token" shit.

Bold claims.


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February 10, 2018, 09:52:50 AM
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Fork is at least starting at the point of monero.

The lazier scams were even just monero "token" shit.

Bold claims.



No, it is a regressed and twisted starting point.  Extrapolating out, it should be similar to bytecoin before Monero gets bullet proofs.  If it lasts that long.
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Ok I'm a couple of paragraphs into this MoneroV-Roadmap and I can say with certainty this is complete fud.

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For example, Monero's infinite coin supply

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MoneroV adheres to core Austrian school of economics principles and caps the total amount of XMV coins that can be created to 256 million

Ha, this is the funniest part, calling Moneros supply infinite and then having such a high supply. When will Monero supply reach 256 million? In the year 100 million?  Cheesy

But all these forks really put Monero up there with BTC even more, now that we get our own line of scam forks.  Smiley
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February 10, 2018, 11:16:48 AM
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good time to buy
Yes, better get in before we see the anon flippening becoming real. This is not an investment advise, only my personal view of things.

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Ok I'm a couple of paragraphs into this MoneroV-Roadmap and I can say with certainty this is complete fud.

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For example, Monero's infinite coin supply

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MoneroV adheres to core Austrian school of economics principles and caps the total amount of XMV coins that can be created to 256 million

Ha, this is the funniest part, calling Moneros supply infinite and then having such a high supply. When will Monero supply reach 256 million? In the year 100 million?  Cheesy

But all these forks really put Monero up there with BTC even more, now that we get our own line of scam forks.  Smiley


Yes.  this is a great point.  10 Merit sent! Wink

In the year 2100 there would be 31,456,000 XMR  vs ~8 times as many  MCASH (MoneroV haha).

Even in the year 3500 there would still be less XMR than "XMV".
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February 10, 2018, 02:56:44 PM
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good time to buy
Yes, better get in before we see the anon flippening becoming real. This is not an investment advise, only my personal view of things.
What do you mean by anon flippening?
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What is the real deal behind monero lately. It was going great for few months last year?
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