[ANN] Syscoin- FINAL 2.0 LAUNCHED! *ENCRYPTION, MARKETPLACE, BTC INTEGRATION*

[snipsnoop]

i agree. the devs are removing constructive critism and pretend it never exist. but it does even if they delete.
WE NEED twiter promoters.. IMO! and dev need stop delete posts. they delete this post from me:
"delete fud wont make go away.... better to try and do better is the only way to silence them... u spend to much time here to litle on code or hire ppl f or code and arketing.."
AND I SAY NOTHING WRONG! i only mean we need marketing and hire people with monies, instead of stay in thread and delete all post. make smtj good instead fud. u are only agravate me now, you listen commenuty?

We have said multiple times that we will delete crap to keep the thread clean. From the OP "Please note: this is a moderated post. Any replies that resort to name calling, unnecessary use of large fonts/color or posting of misinformation will be deleted. Repeat violators will be reported to forum admins."
That includes quoting crap which it was. There is nothing constructive about replying with "bla bla bla" . So no I wont stop moderating FUD and crap posts.

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[vicvelcro]

I've seen that article before (the one you previously referenced) and it bases itself on opinion of the author as well as assumptions the author has made, which are not substantiated within the article or anywhere else that I can find.

Due to the above, I decided to withhold my reflex-reply out of courtesy to you and your point of view.

I am very familiar with Myriad (I like it very much), and read as many articles related to Myriad as I can find. I have also done my own due diligence in regard to merge mining.

The issue of merge mining in relation to the trend of coin prices can not be proven. Yet, one can observe that the price of most coins decreases during the months of July and especially August (use charts such as bitcoinwisdom and change the scaling to show a longer time-frame). It has been speculated that this is due to people cashing in to buy school supplies for their kids and pay tuitions for the college bound (among other things).

Also, since your pitch looks like you are spamming to promote a coin that has no relation to Sys, you shouldn't be surprised that you were overlooked.

Well I have to admit I'm a bit disappointed no one, especially one of the devs here, took any time to look at an innovative solution to the current imbalance of merge mining that I attempted to share with this community.

[n00bnoxious]

I've held loyally for a long time and helped where possible, but I just sold... I'm not seeing anything that makes me think positively at all about the team. The tech's great, but the professionalism is purely nonexistent. Sorry guys, too much

[neurorit]

I've seen that article before (the one you previously referenced) and it bases itself on opinion of the author as well as assumptions the author has made, which are not substantiated within the article or anywhere else that I can find.

Due to the above, I decided to withhold my reflex-reply out of courtesy to you and your point of view.

I am very familiar with Myriad (I like it very much), and read as many articles related to Myriad as I can find. I have also done my own due diligence in regard to merge mining.

The issue of merge mining in relation to the trend of coin prices can not be proven. Yet, one can observe that the price of most coins decreases during the months of July and especially August (use charts such as bitcoinwisdom and change the scaling to show a longer time-frame). It has been speculated that this is due to people cashing in to buy school supplies for their kids and pay tuitions for the college bound (among other things).

Also, since your pitch looks like you are spamming to promote a coin that has no relation to Sys, you shouldn't be surprised that you were overlooked.

Well I have to admit I'm a bit disappointed no one, especially one of the devs here, took any time to look at an innovative solution to the current imbalance of merge mining that I attempted to share with this community.

Well a Myriad dev came up with the idea, but that doesn't mean you have to use Myriad's platform to implement it. Especially if you have scrypt as the merge mined algorithm. That would allow any scrpyt coin to add hash to the Sys network.

While it is true that a correlation between price decrease and auxPoW can't be proven, it is true that that is the general perceptions which is just as important in terms of price. Price is largely based on perception.

Even if we remove the downward selling pressure argument from this discussion, multi-vPoW seems to me to be superior in terms of security and decentralization when compared to a mono AuxPoW blockchain. That alone seems to add value to Syscoin.

Anyway, I apologize for coming off as spammy. That was not my intent. I'm only trying to help.

[snipsnoop]

You honestly cant win.. One portion wants a clean thread (Got tons of PM's about this). And then you have people who just wants to fill up the thread with random noise.

[snipsnoop]

I've seen that article before (the one you previously referenced) and it bases itself on opinion of the author as well as assumptions the author has made, which are not substantiated within the article or anywhere else that I can find.

Due to the above, I decided to withhold my reflex-reply out of courtesy to you and your point of view.

I am very familiar with Myriad (I like it very much), and read as many articles related to Myriad as I can find. I have also done my own due diligence in regard to merge mining.

The issue of merge mining in relation to the trend of coin prices can not be proven. Yet, one can observe that the price of most coins decreases during the months of July and especially August (use charts such as bitcoinwisdom and change the scaling to show a longer time-frame). It has been speculated that this is due to people cashing in to buy school supplies for their kids and pay tuitions for the college bound (among other things).

Also, since your pitch looks like you are spamming to promote a coin that has no relation to Sys, you shouldn't be surprised that you were overlooked.

Well I have to admit I'm a bit disappointed no one, especially one of the devs here, took any time to look at an innovative solution to the current imbalance of merge mining that I attempted to share with this community.

Well a Myriad dev came up with the idea, but that doesn't mean you have to use Myriad's platform to implement it. Especially if you have scrypt as the merge mined algorithm. That would allow any scrpyt coin to add hash to the Sys network.

While it is true that a correlation between price decrease and auxPoW can't be proven, it is true that that is the general perceptions which is just as important in terms of price. Price is largely based on perception.

Even if we remove the downward selling pressure argument from this discussion, multi-vPoW seems to me to be superior in terms of security and decentralization when compared to a mono AuxPoW blockchain. That alone seems to add value to Syscoin.

Anyway, I apologize for coming off as spammy. That was not my intent. I'm only trying to help.

It is a valid enough point and I would not consider it spammy. We are open to any suggestions/ideas and it is something we will have a chat about.

[danosphere]

I've held loyally for a long time and helped where possible, but I just sold... I'm not seeing anything that makes me think positively at all about the team. The tech's great, but the professionalism is purely nonexistent. Sorry guys, too much

Yep and marketing that tech takes time and planning as we've stated multiple times is happening. No other coin has these problems because no other coins have real features to market like this. We are deleting posts that just continue to say the same thing over and over to which we're replied (over and over). People looking for real information have asked us to keep this thread clean and focused on what is going on and that is what we're doing. Your repeatedly posting the same thing about PR doesn't accomplish anything nor provide any more info to people looking for it- actually it does the opposite- burying my reply stating what we are doing in a litany of duplicate posts.

We have already clarified several times there are plans for focused PR and development campaigns around each service. We realize some people don't care about network instability but as a product team we do. Now that the network is stable, we can focus on the forward moving PR items. Please note I have said we are ramping up PR several times now and there will be more news on this tonight.

[danosphere]

I've seen that article before (the one you previously referenced) and it bases itself on opinion of the author as well as assumptions the author has made, which are not substantiated within the article or anywhere else that I can find.

Due to the above, I decided to withhold my reflex-reply out of courtesy to you and your point of view.

I am very familiar with Myriad (I like it very much), and read as many articles related to Myriad as I can find. I have also done my own due diligence in regard to merge mining.

The issue of merge mining in relation to the trend of coin prices can not be proven. Yet, one can observe that the price of most coins decreases during the months of July and especially August (use charts such as bitcoinwisdom and change the scaling to show a longer time-frame). It has been speculated that this is due to people cashing in to buy school supplies for their kids and pay tuitions for the college bound (among other things).

Also, since your pitch looks like you are spamming to promote a coin that has no relation to Sys, you shouldn't be surprised that you were overlooked.

Well I have to admit I'm a bit disappointed no one, especially one of the devs here, took any time to look at an innovative solution to the current imbalance of merge mining that I attempted to share with this community.

Well a Myriad dev came up with the idea, but that doesn't mean you have to use Myriad's platform to implement it. Especially if you have scrypt as the merge mined algorithm. That would allow any scrpyt coin to add hash to the Sys network.

While it is true that a correlation between price decrease and auxPoW can't be proven, it is true that that is the general perceptions which is just as important in terms of price. Price is largely based on perception.

Even if we remove the downward selling pressure argument from this discussion, multi-vPoW seems to me to be superior in terms of security and decentralization when compared to a mono AuxPoW blockchain. That alone seems to add value to Syscoin.

Anyway, I apologize for coming off as spammy. That was not my intent. I'm only trying to help.

It is a valid enough point and I would not consider it spammy. We are open to any suggestions/ideas and it is something we will have a chat about.

Def not spam and a valid point. Will be reviewing this and thanks for some useful input.

[n00bnoxious]

You repeatedly posting the same thing about PR

I haven't. I've been supporting you for a long time. Listen to your investors more. Done with you.

[vicvelcro]

I'm not sure I am reading you correctly - if you are trying to say Myriad came up with the idea of merged mining, you are mistaken. Merged mining has been going on since before Myriad existed.

Well a Myriad dev came up with the idea, but that doesn't mean you have to use Myriad's platform to implement it.

Well, I do see this as a positive thing.

Especially if you have scrypt as the merge mined algorithm. That would allow any scrpyt coin to add hash to the Sys network.

Consider that Sys hasn't been around long enough for anyone to have a sufficient data sample for establishing any possible price connection with merged mining. I could say the same for most of the other coins that are merge mined. Just not a large enough sample for establishing any trend analysis.

While it is true that a correlation between price decrease and auxPoW can't be proven,

That pretty much applies to the weak minded, weak handed, and those with short attention span. It does not apply to people who invest for the mid to long term with appreciable amounts of capital. Day traders are not the same thing as investors. Day traders are subject to FUD campaigns and basing their buys and sells on Twitter influenced perception. The big money pretty much knows to ignore all of that.

... it is true that that is the general perceptions which is just as important in terms of price. Price is largely based on perception.

Perhaps I wasn't careful enough with my choice of wording. I don't accuse you of spamming. If I came across that way, I owe you an apology for being careless with my verbiage.

What I meant to convey is that there are many here who think 5 words is TL:DR and only skim the very most recent post instead of reading the earlier submissions in the thread or bothering to read the entire contents of ANY post. Those people would see that your format and the length fit a good comparison to the formatting of spam posts and would therefore make an incorrect assumption about your post - without actually reading it to see what it even contained. As you said earlier, perception matters.

Consider it constructive criticism, not a put-down. Preview your longer posts before submitting. If it looks like spam, change the format.

Anyway, I apologize for coming off as spammy. That was not my intent. I'm only trying to help.

[danosphere]

You repeatedly posting the same thing about PR

I haven't. I've been supporting you for a long time. Listen to your investors more. Done with you.

Syscoin is not some clone with a roadmap. Its a coin with completed features that yes- require proper marketing. This takes planning before barreling into and the community is well aware of the initial launch issues which we HAD to resolved before starting a real marketing effort. Why would we start a serious marketing effort when everything wasn't working correctly?

Now that things are all working 100% marketing will kick on very hard- but in a planned way. We can't just market this like other coins where we talk a lot about the features we are GOING to make- we need to do this entirely differently where we market and DEMO the features we already have. This takes planning and a different approach than other clone coins with vaporware roadmaps. Some presale buyers aren't comfortable waiting for this to be done right or feel that is the wrong way to go about things. We do listen to the majority voice of the community and this strategy is in line with their requests.

If people feel we are deleting posts that should remain we welcome you to start a new thread (or add to that other one that was started...) where your posts can be free from our deletions and won't bury actual news. You can even leave a link here and we won't remove it, but we won't continue to let this thread turn into a new version of the old thread. This is about features and plans- questions we have NOT already answered and we have answered the PR/Marketing questions several times.

[danosphere]

I need to add
# is there a full-time dev working on this project? for 1500 btc there should be at least one, because it still looks like some hobby coin full of
ambition but lack of improvement

yes but we need marketing around feature specific advantages. Not more dev (at the moment).

# i tried all wallet versions already but none of them worked on win8, and also my wallet got corrupted with nice bunch of coins, i'm still patient and try to not push and can wait for stable wallet version but this is already getting funny...no working wallet

Please contact us. No one else has reported such issues on the 0.1.4c wallet. Please PM or reach out to us on IRC, we're always around.

what date have you started to code the wallet? few months ago?

Well over 6months ago. Wallet and QT UI are 2 very different things, I think you're referring to QT here?

[neurorit]

I'm not sure I am reading you correctly - if you are trying to say Myriad came up with the idea of merged mining, you are mistaken. Merged mining has been going on since before Myriad existed.

Well a Myriad dev came up with the idea, but that doesn't mean you have to use Myriad's platform to implement it.

Sorry, maybe I wasn't clear. I meant that neuroMode from Myriad came up with the idea of block tipping (mutli-vPoW is the temporary name) not merge mining itself.


Anyway, I get what you're saying about too long to read. I tend to do that when expressing myself on these forums. Either way, I'm glad I got your guys' attention about this as I feel this concept would compliment what you guys' have already accomplished in terms of functionality. Decentralization is really important and any way that it can be increased/ensured is a win in my book.

[SparkedDev]

This looks like a nice coin maybe ill try mining it.

[neurorit]

This looks like a nice coin maybe ill try mining it.

If you want to mine it I recommend mining on one of Myriad's p2pool's. The scypt p2pools are presently merge mining Sys along with 4 other  auxPoW coins, so you get a lot more bang for your hash rate. I'm presently getting about 25-40% more revenue a day w/ my scrypt rigs than other scrypt pools. 

http://myriad.p2pool.geek.nz/merge

[Momimaus]

Hey users. If you want talk without getting deleted come here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=767188.0

[danosphere]

Hey users. If you want talk without getting deleted come here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=757255.new#new

No problem at all with that.. Check the link though, its just linking here.

[BBmodBB]

/\-*-SYS-*-@300!!!!!!!!  GOGOGOGOGGOOGOGOO

[asboxi]

merge mining with what?

[RJF]

You honestly cant win.. One portion wants a clean thread (Got tons of PM's about this). And then you have people who just wants to fill up the thread with random noise.

In the end, it's really about what you, as a Developer, feel is good for SysCoin. Personally, I agree with a moderated thread in a carnival like atmosphere such as these forums have become. So, please, keep on deleting....