[ANN] Syscoin- FINAL 2.0 LAUNCHED! *ENCRYPTION, MARKETPLACE, BTC INTEGRATION*

[mwheeleruk]

Also guys (community). Another tool we need is a community driven rating system for the marketplace. Until this is built into the blockchain, i feel one of us not on the dev team could get it started.

If anyone has the know and time to do it, lets talk else Ill try to get something worked up. I imagine we could even use a google doc even to keep a trusted list of buyers/sellers.

@Dev, how would you recommend to go about this? We need to be able to confirm certain buyers/sellers actually are who they say they are (for one) and then us as a community could actually keep record of it all.

Hope im making sense here lol

Edit: Seems with the way it works, we just need to be able to confirm/rate sellers. Could simply recommend to send am encrypted message that would require a simple answer and wait for a response from the alleged known seller. Im imagining whats if a seller was pretending to be from the dev team? If dev team had their PGP public and responded to an encrypted message accurately, that'd work

An idea would be to gown the avenue of adding a rating system onto the profiles at Syscoin.org just much like the rating system, on here. Within the marketplace area on the forum people can post direct links to there listings and obviously you can see any feedback on that users profile.

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[sphericon]

For feedback/trust rating there could be link in listing to ebay feedback or coinpayments.net feedback (buyer could verify that items match or contact seller independently to verify). This assumes seller doesn't mind being pseudonymous though. Photos and description fields need be working. Some items would need 2 or 3 pics. Also if some one buys two items is there option for shipping discount?

The feedback system could be based upon a syscoin address, so as long as that address is unknown, it would seem that the seller could still remain anonymous.

[helloge]

Thanks for the update. Great news!

yeah, no news is good news, it's good for not comment,now.
but we have hopes.

[kamronk]

Also guys (community). Another tool we need is a community driven rating system for the marketplace. Until this is built into the blockchain, i feel one of us not on the dev team could get it started.

If anyone has the know and time to do it, lets talk else Ill try to get something worked up. I imagine we could even use a google doc even to keep a trusted list of buyers/sellers.

@Dev, how would you recommend to go about this? We need to be able to confirm certain buyers/sellers actually are who they say they are (for one) and then us as a community could actually keep record of it all.

Hope im making sense here lol

Edit: Seems with the way it works, we just need to be able to confirm/rate sellers. Could simply recommend to send am encrypted message that would require a simple answer and wait for a response from the alleged known seller. Im imagining whats if a seller was pretending to be from the dev team? If dev team had their PGP public and responded to an encrypted message accurately, that'd work

An idea would be to gown the avenue of adding a rating system onto the profiles at Syscoin.org just much like the rating system, on here. Within the marketplace area on the forum people can post direct links to there listings and obviously you can see any feedback on that users profile.

How does one go about making a profile at syscoin.org?

[kamronk]

For feedback/trust rating there could be link in listing to ebay feedback or coinpayments.net feedback (buyer could verify that items match or contact seller independently to verify). This assumes seller doesn't mind being pseudonymous though. Photos and description fields need be working. Some items would need 2 or 3 pics. Also if some one buys two items is there option for shipping discount?

The feedback system could be based upon a syscoin address, so as long as that address is unknown, it would seem that the seller could still remain anonymous.

This is very true, is the address an available peice of info on the marketplace side?

[arcticlava]

Why not put the Syscoin Marketplace ranking system right on the Syscoin blockchain using data aliases? 

Syscoin data aliases  have some unique and powerful features. Data on the blockchain is essentially “broadcast” to the entire network in one confirmation, with the “dataupdate” command in the console, and viewable by all using the “datainfo” command.

Yet control of the data is restricted to one syscoin address at a time.

This makes for some potentially elegant solutions to some thorny problems, such as this one - how to publicly rank merchants in the marketplace, but authenticate the data and prevent spam.

Let us say I purchase a widget from sphericon and want to submit a ranking of that transaction. I can update my ranking data alias (lets call it “my_reviews”) with the buyer’s and seller’s addressees, the transaction ID, and my ranking score for that transaction.  This is done right in the marketplace client. If a sufficient number of buyers did this after each purchase, the client would be able to query the blockchain to both authenticate the validity of the scores submitted, and display the score next to the seller in the client.

[kamronk]

Why not put the Syscoin Marketplace ranking system right on the Syscoin blockchain using data aliases? 

Syscoin data aliases  have some unique and powerful features. Data on the blockchain is essentially “broadcast” to the entire network in one confirmation, with the “dataupdate” command in the console, and viewable by all using the “datainfo” command.

Yet control of the data is restricted to one syscoin address at a time.

This makes for some potentially elegant solutions to some thorny problems, such as this one - how to publicly rank merchants in the marketplace, but authenticate the data and prevent spam.

Let us say I purchase a widget from sphericon and want to submit a ranking of that transaction. I can update my ranking data alias (lets call it “my_reviews”) with the buyer’s and seller’s addressees, the transaction ID, and my ranking score for that transaction.  This is done right in the marketplace client. If a sufficient number of buyers did this after each purchase, the client would be able to query the blockchain to both authenticate the validity of the scores submitted, and display the score next to the seller in the client.

But in this model, who is to say (what is guarunteeing) that the listing saying "from sphericon" is actually coming from sphericon?

[sphericon]

Why not put the Syscoin Marketplace ranking system right on the Syscoin blockchain using data aliases? 

Syscoin data aliases  have some unique and powerful features. Data on the blockchain is essentially “broadcast” to the entire network in one confirmation, with the “dataupdate” command in the console, and viewable by all using the “datainfo” command.

Yet control of the data is restricted to one syscoin address at a time.

This makes for some potentially elegant solutions to some thorny problems, such as this one - how to publicly rank merchants in the marketplace, but authenticate the data and prevent spam.

Let us say I purchase a widget from sphericon and want to submit a ranking of that transaction. I can update my ranking data alias (lets call it “my_reviews”) with the buyer’s and seller’s addressees, the transaction ID, and my ranking score for that transaction.  This is done right in the marketplace client. If a sufficient number of buyers did this after each purchase, the client would be able to query the blockchain to both authenticate the validity of the scores submitted, and display the score next to the seller in the client.

But in this model, who is to say (what is guarunteeing) that the listing saying "from sphericon" is actually coming from sphericon?

It doesn't matter who it comes from, all that matters is that the address that is the "seller" has a good reputation. That's the whole point of the decentralized marketplace, anonymity. You need to reshape how you think about selling goods.

[kamronk]

Why not put the Syscoin Marketplace ranking system right on the Syscoin blockchain using data aliases? 

Syscoin data aliases  have some unique and powerful features. Data on the blockchain is essentially “broadcast” to the entire network in one confirmation, with the “dataupdate” command in the console, and viewable by all using the “datainfo” command.

Yet control of the data is restricted to one syscoin address at a time.

This makes for some potentially elegant solutions to some thorny problems, such as this one - how to publicly rank merchants in the marketplace, but authenticate the data and prevent spam.

Let us say I purchase a widget from sphericon and want to submit a ranking of that transaction. I can update my ranking data alias (lets call it “my_reviews”) with the buyer’s and seller’s addressees, the transaction ID, and my ranking score for that transaction.  This is done right in the marketplace client. If a sufficient number of buyers did this after each purchase, the client would be able to query the blockchain to both authenticate the validity of the scores submitted, and display the score next to the seller in the client.

But in this model, who is to say (what is guarunteeing) that the listing saying "from sphericon" is actually coming from sphericon?

It doesn't matter who it comes from, all that matters is that the address that is the "seller" has a good reputation. That's the whole point of the decentralized marketplace, anonymity. You need to reshape how you think about selling goods.

If the address of a listing is available then that would make all the difference in legitimacy. Is that included for each listing when browsing the marketplace?

[sphericon]

If the address of a listing is available then that would make all the difference in legitimacy. Is that included for each listing when browsing the marketplace?

Yep, you gave me a nice segue into announcing...

SysMarket v0.5.2 Alpha is out! Now with pictures and Amazon integration!!

New Features in v0.5.2 Alpha:

• Added a product detail button to product display portion *including address*
• Added feature: product detail dialog display
• Added feature: Amazon ASIN field available when listing product. It now links to Amazon page of the product in the user's default browser
• Added feature: Product listings can now contain 3 pictures, uploaded from the lister's desktop to imgur and saved in the blockchain.

Windows binary located here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/f0nzgklvkgfj3fb/sysmarket-v0.5.2-alpha.zip?dl=0 [edit] had to patch a bug I missed, new incremental release

Code on Github: https://github.com/spherico/sysmarket-win32

[danosphere]

If the address of a listing is available then that would make all the difference in legitimacy. Is that included for each listing when browsing the marketplace?

Yep, you gave me a nice segue into announcing...

SysMarket v0.5 Alpha is out! Now with pictures and Amazon integration!!

New Features in v0.5 Alpha:

• Added a product detail button to product display portion *including address*
• Added feature: product detail dialog display
• Added feature: Amazon ASIN field available when listing product. It now links to Amazon page of the product in the user's default browser
• Added feature: Product listings can now contain 3 pictures, uploaded from the lister's desktop to imgur and saved in the blockchain.

Windows binary located here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/f0nzgklvkgfj3fb/sysmarket-v0.5.2-alpha.zip [edit] had to patch a bug I missed, new incremental release

Code on Github: https://github.com/spherico/sysmarket-win32

Very nice!! And as stated before we are working on getting 0.1.5.1 out before Monday which patches the issue that @sphericon is currently using a workaround for (cause he's sharp like that ). Unfortunately we were booked last week with legal process work which was mandatory.

We are going to have to delay Blockmarket's Beta release due to the legal roadblock we hit this Friday (and are now past and advancing to the next stage) but the work doesn't stop for us! We're still cracking on with Blockmarket, Mobile Apps, and the big thing is Syscoin Wallet V2. At the moment the next week is "clear" for us in terms of legal work distracting us from SYS development so we should be able to make up for lost time last week. We should be able to release the beta next week/end.

Blog post coming up before Monday, roadmap will be updated as well to reflect change caused by the hearing we had to prep for Friday 11/28. The bitcoins were NOT delivered per the order so we will be moving to full proceedings. Thanks again everyone for your patience and support! We appreciate every bit of it, we have real faith in digital currencies and want to see the future of them grow and not be stifled by incidents of huge losses that go unaccounted for, that's what our litigation is all about.

We have an official donation address in my signature, please don't be fooled by scammers trying to pretend they are collecting funds on our behalf! Also our legal fund it separate from the mintpaljustice.com fund but both cases speak to the same larger goal of accountability in the digital currency space.

[casinobitcoin]

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[syscoin-videopr]

Pictures and Vid from the new updates check it out!

http://s2.postimg.org/5wsrx4jq1/sys1.png
http://s30.postimg.org/hp2sixns1/sys2.png



Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzRcu0fxr24&feature=youtube_gdata

[sidhujag]

very nice sphericon.. so how does the payment flow work.. using rpc or uri scheme?

What does amazon integration get you? Would it autocreate an amazon listing when you create a syscoin listing?

[RiverBoatBTC]

very nice sphericon.. so how does the payment flow work.. using rpc or uri scheme?

What does amazon integration get you? Would it autocreate an amazon listing when you create a syscoin listing?

The amazon code just links to the product and information as far as I can tell. It needs a little tweaking right now and is being worked on.

[helloge]

Pictures and Vid from the new updates check it out!






Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzRcu0fxr24&feature=youtube_gdata

thanks for the update,
when will the syscoin come to normal?

[kamronk]

The good things just keep on coming Good work sphericon!

I put together a type of "beginners bundle" as far as trying to get a single download package together for new comers looking for the marketplace, or even existing sys users that aren't as advanced.

The bundle/package (w.e. you want to call it) can be found here:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59500178/Syscoin%20Decetralized%20Marketplace%20Package.zip

There is an exe there, as well as two hidden folders. The code for the exe can be found here:
https://github.com/kamronk/SyscoinMarketplaceInstallHelper

WARNING: This is not for advanced syscoin users that are using the syscoin.conf file of their %appdata% directory for anything more technical than common use.

It will check to see if syscoin is installed, if so, will create a shortcut in the bundle named "Your syscoin wallet"

It will then ask you to let it open, and try again.

Upon successful run, it will rewrite the syscoin.conf file, and the contained settings.inc file to correspond with eachother. See the following links for the contents that will be written to the files.
syscoin.conf
http://hastebin.com/aleponusek.ini
settings.inc
http://hastebin.com/ibeligitoh.ini

It will also (upon success) then create a shortcut named "The Marketplace" and prompt the user to delete the exe file they ran.

I can update this for folks as needed and as updates are released from the dev team and sphericon.

Do you guys think this will be helpful? I keep trying to think from a brand new users point of view as riverboat has mentioned a few times.

[sphericon]

very nice sphericon.. so how does the payment flow work.. using rpc or uri scheme?

What does amazon integration get you? Would it autocreate an amazon listing when you create a syscoin listing?

the payment flow executes multiple commands via RPC-everything is handled in the app. Currently the syscoin-qt client requires a user to run "offeraccept," wait for that to be added to the blockchain, then "offerpay."  The app handles this by putting items you have accepted to buy into the pending column on the main app window, then once they have a few confirmations, it will allow you to pay for them. The app will then automatically deduct the appropriate amount from your wallet as per the RPC command spec.

Amazon integration really just adds a link that will tell more about product reviews. To use this, just put the ASIN number of the item from amazon into the seller ASIN input box when listing an item.

[SirEGB]

Pictures and Vid from the new updates check it out!






Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzRcu0fxr24&feature=youtube_gdata

Wow, this is a huge update!  Is there an ETA for release?

[josephliton]

Pictures and Vid from the new updates check it out!






Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzRcu0fxr24&feature=youtube_gdata

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