[ANN][UPDATE][NEOS]Neos v2.1- Blowfish, 2FA, Theft Recovery, Decoy System

[CrowdWhale]

I think it would be better to have the alias fees be destructive, rather than a lottery.

[Altcoin4life]

I think it would be better to have the alias fees be destructive, rather than a lottery.

This may be better for scarcity longterm yes, also Auto Monkey's ideas for in wallet betting are def good ones. If you don't gamble just don't use the feature easy to solve

[yak]

I think it would be better to have the alias fees be destructive, rather than a lottery.

This may be better for scarcity longterm yes, also Auto Monkey's ideas for in wallet betting are def good ones. If you don't gamble just don't use the feature easy to solve

putting betting into a wallet opens up quite a bit of legal issues for developers of it.
also to address your blockchain betting, while something like that is technically 'possible' its also very costly as to the blockchain itself, if enough people were doing it it would bloat the blockchain and cause a lot of issues (see the satoshi dice issues with bitcoin). while its a novel concept (not saying that the blockchain doesn't have its uses in something like this), you need to be careful to not use the blockchain for things that might not need to be, keep in mind the blockchain is forever, so only things that need to be logged forever really need to be in there

[figgyUK]

I think it would be better to have the alias fees be destructive, rather than a lottery.

This may be better for scarcity longterm yes, also Auto Monkey's ideas for in wallet betting are def good ones. If you don't gamble just don't use the feature easy to solve

Being a non-gambler I would like to *not* see this in the wallet - so if this happens can we have the option to hide or turn it off so save annoyance. Other users may want this too if they've had a problem with online gambling and don't want temptation!!

[yak]

if you were to say maybe that each *POT* was put into the blockchain.. while still a little 'bloaty' that might be something a little more interesting

[yak]

I think it would be better to have the alias fees be destructive, rather than a lottery.

This may be better for scarcity longterm yes, also Auto Monkey's ideas for in wallet betting are def good ones. If you don't gamble just don't use the feature easy to solve

Being a non-gambler I would like to *not* see this in the wallet - so if this happens can we have the option to hide or turn it off so save annoyance. Other users may want this too if they've had a problem with online gambling and don't want temptation!!

i would propose it being a separate application all together, for legal reasons as well as other reasons. having it tie INTO the wallet however would be interesting.. if sites could just use say an api key and secret in order for you to start playing.. or you could sign up/register/login using your neos wallet address, so your payouts would go to that wallet... then that would be something
but to have it *IN* the wallet itself.. i don't see the reason.

[Altcoin4life]

I think it would be better to have the alias fees be destructive, rather than a lottery.

This may be better for scarcity longterm yes, also Auto Monkey's ideas for in wallet betting are def good ones. If you don't gamble just don't use the feature easy to solve

Being a non-gambler I would like to *not* see this in the wallet - so if this happens can we have the option to hide or turn it off so save annoyance. Other users may want this too if they've had a problem with online gambling and don't want temptation!!

i would propose it being a separate application all together, for legal reasons as well as other reasons. having it tie INTO the wallet however would be interesting.. if sites could just use say an api key and secret in order for you to start playing.. or you could sign up/register/login using your neos wallet address, so your payouts would go to that wallet... then that would be something
but to have it *IN* the wallet itself.. i don't see the reason.

Plus the games don't have to be super graphic and complicated, just simple ones like dice/blackjack alone would be nice to have. Obviously yAK must know about the legal side a bit so let's just avoid stepping into a bad spot and do it the best way.

[yak]

I think it would be better to have the alias fees be destructive, rather than a lottery.

This may be better for scarcity longterm yes, also Auto Monkey's ideas for in wallet betting are def good ones. If you don't gamble just don't use the feature easy to solve

Being a non-gambler I would like to *not* see this in the wallet - so if this happens can we have the option to hide or turn it off so save annoyance. Other users may want this too if they've had a problem with online gambling and don't want temptation!!

i would propose it being a separate application all together, for legal reasons as well as other reasons. having it tie INTO the wallet however would be interesting.. if sites could just use say an api key and secret in order for you to start playing.. or you could sign up/register/login using your neos wallet address, so your payouts would go to that wallet... then that would be something
but to have it *IN* the wallet itself.. i don't see the reason.

Plus the games don't have to be super graphic and complicated, just simple ones like dice/blackjack alone would be nice to have. Obviously yAK must know about the legal side a bit so let's just avoid stepping into a bad spot and do it the best way.

as far as features for the wallet goes, what is it that you guys do right now with your bank accounts that maybe isn't in the wallet (or even in crypto really) yet?
because technically, thats what a crypto wallet is in some ways, a bank account

[Altcoin4life]

I think it would be better to have the alias fees be destructive, rather than a lottery.

This may be better for scarcity longterm yes, also Auto Monkey's ideas for in wallet betting are def good ones. If you don't gamble just don't use the feature easy to solve

Being a non-gambler I would like to *not* see this in the wallet - so if this happens can we have the option to hide or turn it off so save annoyance. Other users may want this too if they've had a problem with online gambling and don't want temptation!!

i would propose it being a separate application all together, for legal reasons as well as other reasons. having it tie INTO the wallet however would be interesting.. if sites could just use say an api key and secret in order for you to start playing.. or you could sign up/register/login using your neos wallet address, so your payouts would go to that wallet... then that would be something
but to have it *IN* the wallet itself.. i don't see the reason.

Plus the games don't have to be super graphic and complicated, just simple ones like dice/blackjack alone would be nice to have. Obviously yAK must know about the legal side a bit so let's just avoid stepping into a bad spot and do it the best way.

as far as features for the wallet goes, what is it that you guys do right now with your bank accounts that maybe isn't in the wallet (or even in crypto really) yet?
because technically, thats what a crypto wallet is in some ways, a bank account

What about these 2 ideas, set aside a savings account section of the wallet with a timer maybe? Forcing you to save (since no one hardly does in crypto). For example put 1k Neos into savings for X amount of days, will not be released till X day timer is up? OR option 2 is having some messaging or chat function in the wallet maybe? I know it's been done before but it is convenient.

[MickGhee]

its a BIG DEAL yay

[Automatic Monkey]

I think it would be better to have the alias fees be destructive, rather than a lottery.

This may be better for scarcity longterm yes, also Auto Monkey's ideas for in wallet betting are def good ones. If you don't gamble just don't use the feature easy to solve

Being a non-gambler I would like to *not* see this in the wallet - so if this happens can we have the option to hide or turn it off so save annoyance. Other users may want this too if they've had a problem with online gambling and don't want temptation!!

i would propose it being a separate application all together, for legal reasons as well as other reasons. having it tie INTO the wallet however would be interesting.. if sites could just use say an api key and secret in order for you to start playing.. or you could sign up/register/login using your neos wallet address, so your payouts would go to that wallet... then that would be something
but to have it *IN* the wallet itself.. i don't see the reason.

OK now I get that. Abuse of the blockchain and bloat of the wallet. I suppose the hash function could still be used to ensure people are connecting to a legitimate application. A host could run a special package with a wallet controlled by that package, and once the package and everything connecting to it are trusted the rest of the communication could be done with regular connections and coins only passed back to the players once, when they are done playing.

[Automatic Monkey]

I think it would be better to have the alias fees be destructive, rather than a lottery.

No way, there's no PoS so destroyed coins are gone and never replaced.

Eventually that could become a problem for all non-PoS coins; every time a hard drive crashes the money supply is permanently reduced.

[twoturtles]

We're taking everyone's ideas and thoughts into consideration.  We're definitely striving to offer the best of what we can =).

[ereborltc]

theres no words for how impressed i am with you twoturtles!! if this is what the first update looks like i can't even imagine what V2.1 will have in store for us... just the fact that your willing to spend 20k$ on gaming applications shows how serious and transparent you are in using the ipo money for neos... I'm thinking maybe hold off on gaming.. we can put that money to better use in the near future I'm sure for more innovating techs... of course if the community absolutely wants games then it should be done ,but i think 20k can buy us some serious tech,PR etc...

anyhow keep up the unbelievable work and updates!

[twoturtles]

theres no words for how impressed i am with you twoturtles!! if this is what the first update looks like i can't even imagine what V2.1 will have in store for us... just the fact that your willing to spend 20k$ on gaming applications shows how serious and transparent you are in using the ipo money for neos... I'm thinking maybe hold off on gaming.. we can put that money to better use in the near future I'm sure for more innovating techs... of course if the community absolutely wants games then it should be done ,but i think 20k can buy us some serious tech,PR etc...

anyhow keep up the unbelievable work and updates!

$20k was just a figure thrown out in comparison to $10k that they wanted for run-of-the-mill games.  I'd *rather* buy $20k worth of half of the amount at double the quality is what I meant.  $20k right now on gaming would be a waste almost definitely.  As far as marketing, PR, etc. that's all going to show through after v2 is released.  We can either advertise the hell out of something we released in a hurry, or do it right on something we were allowed the time to put the proper care into.  Just our thoughts.

      Best regards,

syntaks

[Altcoin4life]

theres no words for how impressed i am with you twoturtles!! if this is what the first update looks like i can't even imagine what V2.1 will have in store for us... just the fact that your willing to spend 20k$ on gaming applications shows how serious and transparent you are in using the ipo money for neos... I'm thinking maybe hold off on gaming.. we can put that money to better use in the near future I'm sure for more innovating techs... of course if the community absolutely wants games then it should be done ,but i think 20k can buy us some serious tech,PR etc...

anyhow keep up the unbelievable work and updates!

$20k was just a figure thrown out in comparison to $10k that they wanted for run-of-the-mill games.  I'd *rather* buy $20k worth of half of the amount at double the quality is what I meant.  $20k right now on gaming would be a waste almost definitely.  As far as marketing, PR, etc. that's all going to show through after v2 is released.  We can either advertise the hell out of something we released in a hurry, or do it right on something we were allowed the time to put the proper care into.  Just our thoughts.

      Best regards,

syntaks

Has your team chosen a marketing team/person/company yet? If so who is it? If not then when? For a coin like this you have to be very picky as there is so much that sells itself already you need a really good marketing person to make it a huge hit. Just curious.

[twoturtles]

theres no words for how impressed i am with you twoturtles!! if this is what the first update looks like i can't even imagine what V2.1 will have in store for us... just the fact that your willing to spend 20k$ on gaming applications shows how serious and transparent you are in using the ipo money for neos... I'm thinking maybe hold off on gaming.. we can put that money to better use in the near future I'm sure for more innovating techs... of course if the community absolutely wants games then it should be done ,but i think 20k can buy us some serious tech,PR etc...

anyhow keep up the unbelievable work and updates!

$20k was just a figure thrown out in comparison to $10k that they wanted for run-of-the-mill games.  I'd *rather* buy $20k worth of half of the amount at double the quality is what I meant.  $20k right now on gaming would be a waste almost definitely.  As far as marketing, PR, etc. that's all going to show through after v2 is released.  We can either advertise the hell out of something we released in a hurry, or do it right on something we were allowed the time to put the proper care into.  Just our thoughts.

      Best regards,

syntaks

Has your team chosen a marketing team/person/company yet? If so who is it? If not then when? For a coin like this you have to be very picky as there is so much that sells itself already you need a really good marketing person to make it a huge hit. Just curious.

So far we've been having Vindyne handle marketing but we're always looking for more.  He does an excellent job and is very reliable =)

     Regards,

syntaks

[twoturtles]

Update of what else is coming in v2, thanks to CoinFinder! =)

http://www.verters.com/mining-breakdown/neoscoin

We'll be formatting it a bit differently, but it will be in there =)

     Best regards,

syntaks

[crazyearner]

Nice to see some updates coming along will be speaking to you more in detail on irc with a few plans and some improvements and ideas  I also have and would like to run by you too

[Chris001]

We got a solid eta for V2 yet?

It's going to really get things moving, I think the price will easily double.