Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s

[GPK260]

To be Honest  I dont really care where they are from - I'm married to an estonian so location means nothing to me - There has been stirring in the  Press as one of the leaders of a political party did state he wouldn't want one living next door to  him.... Personally I would love it.... I'd could just pop round and make sure we get our refunds.

In truth you get good and bad everywhere in the world - Just in thi scase they are Romanian but the could easily be british,  French, etc etc

The police were more interested in him having a prior in Romania rather an being romania with it being part of the EU - Makes it eaiser for them.

I had a chat with Daniel this morning they actually bothered to ring me ( jumbley did ask them too ) I explained to him when i visited the police i gave them his details and his company - He todl me he was just a supplier of theres and is BA is not  his company - I had to explain that not many suppliers let other companies take payments for them and "help Out" at trade shows!

We'll see what happens I put everything in an email and he will speak to the managers - I'm not holding my breath. He said they had sorted out the problem with the psu's. but again i've been fed so many lies over the  last 10 months or so.

Police investigation of course stays open so we'll see where that takes us all.

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[DebitMe]

To be Honest  I dont really care where they are from - I'm married to an estonian so location means nothing to me - There has been stirring in the  Press as one of the leaders of a political party did state he wouldn't want one living next door to  him.... Personally I would love it.... I'd could just pop round and make sure we get our refunds.

In truth you get good and bad everywhere in the world - Just in thi scase they are Romanian but the could easily be british,  French, etc etc

The police were more interested in him having a prior in Romania rather an being romania with it being part of the EU - Makes it eaiser for them.

I had a chat with Daniel this morning they actually bothered to ring me ( jumbley did ask them too ) I explained to him when i visited the police i gave them his details and his company - He todl me he was just a supplier of theres and is BA is not  his company - I had to explain that not many suppliers let other companies take payments for them and "help Out" at trade shows!

We'll see what happens I put everything in an email and he will speak to the managers - I'm not holding my breath. He said they had sorted out the problem with the psu's. but again i've been fed so many lies over the  last 10 months or so.

Police investigation of course stays open so we'll see where that takes us all.

So as soon as you open a police report they decide to open channels of communication with you, sounds like they are trying to cover their own asses.

I will check out the police report and add what I can.  Would also love for BA to open communication with me, should be interesting to talk about their lies.

[GPK260]

Indeed very strange although it took jumbley to actually bring it to their attention as they banned me and my posts.....

you can open and should open a case on line - you dont have to be in the  UK

 I checked the online version all out after visting and will take you no more than 15- 20 minutes depending on how much information you give - You can list  three people  in the case so i listed BA and there address china / hong kong / Alex and his address in the UK and Daniel and his Company address as He has / is taking Black arrow's payments through his  company ( not exactly legal Daniel ) and he has been to shows on BA's behalf. You can then add more it says if and when needed.

If you do open a case be sure to list my Crime number and also notbatans's crimenumber if the information section os they can link everything together.

[notbatman]

"The entire Balkan peninsula was annexed by the Ottoman Empire. However, Moldavia and Wallachia (extending to Dobruja and Bulgaria) were allowed a certain degree of temporary autonomy." -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanians

Maybe all these scam ASIC companies are an ISIS funding operation and economic warfare tactic all-in-one?

[notbatman]

Gotta love the miracle of Bitcoin, everybody can follow the money. An honest system of account if their ever was one.

[breakingcode]

"The entire Balkan peninsula was annexed by the Ottoman Empire. However, Moldavia and Wallachia (extending to Dobruja and Bulgaria) were allowed a certain degree of temporary autonomy." -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanians

Maybe all these scam ASIC companies are an ISIS funding operation and economic warfare tactic all-in-one?

Someone should contact the Department of Homeland Defense.

[notbatman]

"The entire Balkan peninsula was annexed by the Ottoman Empire. However, Moldavia and Wallachia (extending to Dobruja and Bulgaria) were allowed a certain degree of temporary autonomy." -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanians

Maybe all these scam ASIC companies are an ISIS funding operation and economic warfare tactic all-in-one?

Someone should contact the Department of Homeland Defense.

Obviously it's a giant leap to say these guys were running this part of the world centuries ago to these guys are trying to re-build their fallen empire via ISIS and funding their operations in-part with Bitcoin scams. The image of these guys as all dark skinned camel riding rag-heads may be a bit off. Eastern Europe has a dark history and the residents are fair skinned.

I'm just putting out some wild speculation at this point.

[raskul]

meanwhile, back in may...

just call the police in berkshire. let them deal with it. do it ASAP.

you're welcome.

[notbatman]

meanwhile, back in may...

just call the police in berkshire. let them deal with it. do it ASAP.

you're welcome.

 

I contacted my local commonwealth authorities back in May to be fair.

[notbatman]

"UV radiation in conjunction with enhanced melanocyte activation can lead to dark eumelanin production which can about affect the race of your anglo." -- Peptide Pros on eCoin Talk

This is the most up to date information on the status of my order I can find.

[Pentax]

"UV radiation in conjunction with enhanced melanocyte activation can lead to dark eumelanin production which can about affect the race of your anglo." -- Peptide Pros on eCoin Talk

This is the most up to date information on the status of my order I can find.

Radiation of heat to surrounding objects can lead to fire, which will burn your house down and affect the lifespan of your anglo.

I couldn't give a shit about my order.  I'll never earn anything on these pieces of crap and a large percentage are defective right out of the box, and even more crap out within days, so even the most optimistic calculations are likely well short in most cases.  If it malfunctions the shipping to China makes it cost prohibitive to get it fixed, as if we should be responsible for that also.  There is actually no warranty if you think about it, which is just another mini-scam in the pile of scams that it is this project.

An X-3 earns maybe, what 1500, back if you're lucky before these tick over to net losers vs. maybe burning your house down and killing your wife, children, dogs, whatever.  It's not worth running it at this point.

They can take that piece of shit and shove it up their ass.  Doing that myself would be worth anything I'd actually earn from this piece of crap, so if Sovu will volunteer to allow me to shove an X-3 directly up his ass he can keep it.  I'll meet him at the next BTC conference and we can do it in their booth.  The world's first in-vitro BTC miner.

[Pentax]

Remember this, BlackArrow?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=294197.msg3215902#msg3215902

"Yes, you are guaranteed to get a price 25% below the market price ($/ghash) at the time of shipment.
And yes, we will keep our prices below every other company.

Bottom line is, whoever trusts us now, we promise that will help them to mine profitably after February as well. If you keep supporting other companies who have ripped you off until now, you'll barely get your ROI back.


Unless Bitcoin mining stops because it becomes unprofitable for everybody else in February, our customers WILL make profit.”

[notbatman]

February is only a few months away I don't think Black Arrow will make their target shipping date of February 24th at all.

[greenlion]

Remember this, BlackArrow?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=294197.msg3215902#msg3215902

"Yes, you are guaranteed to get a price 25% below the market price ($/ghash) at the time of shipment.
And yes, we will keep our prices below every other company.

Bottom line is, whoever trusts us now, we promise that will help them to mine profitably after February as well. If you keep supporting other companies who have ripped you off until now, you'll barely get your ROI back.


Unless Bitcoin mining stops because it becomes unprofitable for everybody else in February, our customers WILL make profit.”

Their loophole on this one is that while they still accept orders, they do not publicly publish prices anymore. You have to contact them to find out privately how much it's going to cost to have the privilege of perpetuating their Ponzi.

[notbatman]

The last official post on the Black Arrow website.

"Please stop using all X3s immediately!" -- Date added: 08 Sep 2014

NOT A PROBLEM AS I NEVER RECEIVED MY X3.

[Pentax]

Remember this, BlackArrow?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=294197.msg3215902#msg3215902

"Yes, you are guaranteed to get a price 25% below the market price ($/ghash) at the time of shipment.
And yes, we will keep our prices below every other company.

Bottom line is, whoever trusts us now, we promise that will help them to mine profitably after February as well. If you keep supporting other companies who have ripped you off until now, you'll barely get your ROI back.


Unless Bitcoin mining stops because it becomes unprofitable for everybody else in February, our customers WILL make profit.”

Their loophole on this one is that while they still accept orders, they do not publicly publish prices anymore. You have to contact them to find out privately how much it's going to cost to have the privilege of perpetuating their Ponzi.

True, although all someone has to do is go to bitmain's site and pull the price on the S4, which I think is about 1250 for a 2TH/s unit.  "We will keep our prices below every other company"

If they refunded the difference, I'd be fine with that.  If they matched the $/Gh, I'd also be fine with that.  If they came within shouting distance of either I'd probably be fine with that.  If it looked like they were making an effort to do anything whatsoever except swallow our money and screw us up the ass I might be fine with that.

They've decided to act as if that promise was never made.  I'm not so fine with that.  If that's not a gigantic 'fuck you' to their customers then I don't know what is.  It's fraud, IMO, plain and simple.

And maybe they'll ship a 1Th/s module as compensation, without a power supply.  I say maybe as I don't think they will.  If they'd been planning on that I think they'd have been shipping them with the other units to save on the shipping cost.  It makes no sense that I can see to do it this way, as it costs them more money.  They're nothing if not penny-pinching assholes, so that, to me, is pretty indicative of the possibility that they don't intend to ever do it and never did.

Kind of like price matching and refunds.  Promised them all along and when it came time to deliver, boom, fuck you customers.

To this point they've made many promises to the aggregate customers.  I can't think of one they've actually kept when it came time to deliver on it.  Not a single one.  Lying cocksuckers to the core as far as I'm concerned.  

[notbatman]

They're total parasites.

[notbatman]

I think the blame should fall equally on Nemesis for this, without Russian technical assistance they would not have got the quantity of orders they did. Those not-in-stock Bitfury boards were the lure to the site for me trying to buy them. Funny how they're all in-stock (used) now for cheap eh.

[notbatman]

"UV radiation in conjunction with enhanced melanocyte activation can lead to dark eumelanin production which can about affect the race of your anglo." -- Peptide Pros on eCoin Talk

This is the most up to date information on the status of my order I can find.

A word from Manu "Mathew" Keeram Panal the Indian subcontractor sourced to issue this latest Black Arrow weekly production update:

"Hi Users, I would like inform you that this domain [manu.pw] is owned by a single person, not an organization. I made this website from an already existing framework. I'm not a great programmer like the one who owns Google, Microsoft, Facebook, etc. I made this site to show them the real meaning of social networking. Now I'm seeing that I'm getting failed due to all who uses this website by insulting humanity. I myself maintaining this website. I'm not asking anyone to help me with some money and all. All I ask you all is to use it properly so that I could show Facebook, Google+, etc. with the real meaning of social networking. Also I request you all to be part of my movement by using it properly and by requesting your friends to join here. Manu"

[greenlion]

I think the blame should fall equally on Nemesis for this, without Russian technical assistance they would not have got the quantity of orders they did. Those not-in-stock Bitfury boards were the lure to the site for me trying to buy them. Funny how they're all in-stock (used) now for cheap eh.

This asshole aka Alexey A. is literally the only person at Black Arrow I've ever been able to talk to, but basically all he does is troll and threaten you.