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[coinermang]

If I deposit and get the 100% bonus can i withdraw winnings if I haven't dipped into my bonus funds yet? so let's say i deposit 500 and get 500 bonus. my total is 1000 and my first slot spin i win 500. could i withdraw 1500 and just the 500 bonus is taken out, so i would have a total withdraw of 1000?

I think you missed another important rule to read. In FJ site if you want to withdraw then you have to wager at least 2X times of your deposited amount.

That means - if you deposit $500 then you must wager at least $1000 before you can withdraw even your deposited amount.

For the bonus amount, I think you need to read the promotion page for the wagering requirement because I don't think the site will allow you to withdraw bonus amount just for 1X wagering.

Yes, this is indeed true, but usually every site have their own wagering requirement towards their bonus withdrawal and here what FortuneJack saying on their terms of service in case you guys do not know it

the rollover requirement for the bonus 
will be 40x.

I've never experienced the wagering requirement without a bonus because I usually play a lot before I withdraw. That doesn't seem right either. I like fortunejack though so will continue to play there, but their bonuses seem sketchy.

They seem to do things differently with bonuses than any other casino I've played at. I took a bonus with them once and I played for hours and was up a bunch and then look and see that I had completed 0 wagering requirements for the bonus. I'm still not completely sure this is how it works because it seems so crazy to me, but I guess as long as you use real money to play, it doesn't go towards the wagering requirements. And the casino uses all your real money before it uses your bonus funds.

So if you deposit and get a 100% bonus, you have to lose half your money before you can start contributing to the wagering. Which means if you deposit with a bonus and go on a winning streak, you'll never see that money... unless you can withdraw your winnings just minus the bonus funds.

Let's say you deposit 100 and get a 100% bonus so you have 200 to play with. You start playing and winning and never dip below 100 into your bonus funds, and now you're up to 2000. No matter how much you play, you can't withdraw until your balance goes below 100. Only then will the wagering requirements start. So you'd have to go from 2000 to 100, then play with 30x wagering before you can withdraw.

The terms say that if you cancel a bonus, all winnings made using bonus funds would also be removed, but if I'm still playing on my money before dipping into the bonus funds I assume those winnings wouldn't be removed? If this is how it works I am okay with it, but if you can't do that, and also don't start meeting wagering requirements until you lose all of your real money, then it is definitely never worth it to take a bonus there. Taking a bonus would be equivalent to not taking a bonus but deciding to impose 30x wagering requirements on your deposit just for fun.

[panjul07]

I've never experienced the wagering requirement without a bonus because I usually play a lot before I withdraw. That doesn't seem right either. I like fortunejack though so will continue to play there, but their bonuses seem sketchy.

They seem to do things differently with bonuses than any other casino I've played at. I took a bonus with them once and I played for hours and was up a bunch and then look and see that I had completed 0 wagering requirements for the bonus. I'm still not completely sure this is how it works because it seems so crazy to me, but I guess as long as you use real money to play, it doesn't go towards the wagering requirements. And the casino uses all your real money before it uses your bonus funds.

So if you deposit and get a 100% bonus, you have to lose half your money before you can start contributing to the wagering. Which means if you deposit with a bonus and go on a winning streak, you'll never see that money... unless you can withdraw your winnings just minus the bonus funds.

Let's say you deposit 100 and get a 100% bonus so you have 200 to play with. You start playing and winning and never dip below 100 into your bonus funds, and now you're up to 2000. No matter how much you play, you can't withdraw until your balance goes below 100. Only then will the wagering requirements start. So you'd have to go from 2000 to 100, then play with 30x wagering before you can withdraw.

The terms say that if you cancel a bonus, all winnings made using bonus funds would also be removed, but if I'm still playing on my money before dipping into the bonus funds I assume those winnings wouldn't be removed? If this is how it works I am okay with it, but if you can't do that, and also don't start meeting wagering requirements until you lose all of your real money, then it is definitely never worth it to take a bonus there. Taking a bonus would be equivalent to not taking a bonus but deciding to impose 30x wagering requirements on your deposit just for fun.

You get it right already, Fortunejack is indeed has a different terms on their bonus compared to other casinos as you have to lose your initial deposit first before your bets is started to be counted towards wagering requirement. As per terms, only wagering using bonus funds will count towards wagering requirement while in other hand once you claim a bonus then your initial deposit will be used first. It means that it will be useless if you win big with the initial deposit as you need to lose it first. In the case you win big with the initial deposit then you want to forfeit the bonus, I think your winning will be removed as well.

[chris200x9]

Let's say you deposit 100 and get a 100% bonus so you have 200 to play with. You start playing and winning and never dip below 100 into your bonus funds, and now you're up to 2000. No matter how much you play, you can't withdraw until your balance goes below 100. Only then will the wagering requirements start. So you'd have to go from 2000 to 100, then play with 30x wagering before you can withdraw.

You mean to say you can't even withdraw your winnings, not bonus amount? What I knew is you just need to wager 2X amount to withdraw your deposit amount and profit.

If you already made so much profit (from $100 to $2000) then why one need to worry about bouns amount?

Your gambling to make money then whether it comes from bouns amount or your deposit amount doesn't matter right?

[cazkooo]

Let's say you deposit 100 and get a 100% bonus so you have 200 to play with. You start playing and winning and never dip below 100 into your bonus funds, and now you're up to 2000. No matter how much you play, you can't withdraw until your balance goes below 100. Only then will the wagering requirements start. So you'd have to go from 2000 to 100, then play with 30x wagering before you can withdraw.

You mean to say you can't even withdraw your winnings, not bonus amount? What I knew is you just need to wager 2X amount to withdraw your deposit amount and profit.

If you already made so much profit (from $100 to $2000) then why one need to worry about bouns amount?

Your gambling to make money then whether it comes from bouns amount or your deposit amount doesn't matter right?

I could say with certainty that You are definitely not reading at all at all, if he cant clear the wagering requirement then he wont be able to withdraw anything at all. It is not a matter about making $2000 out of $100 deposits. Once you take the deposit bonus or some sort of bonus from a gambling site then you will need to clear a wagering requirement before being able to withdraw

[coinermang]

Let's say you deposit 100 and get a 100% bonus so you have 200 to play with. You start playing and winning and never dip below 100 into your bonus funds, and now you're up to 2000. No matter how much you play, you can't withdraw until your balance goes below 100. Only then will the wagering requirements start. So you'd have to go from 2000 to 100, then play with 30x wagering before you can withdraw.

You mean to say you can't even withdraw your winnings, not bonus amount? What I knew is you just need to wager 2X amount to withdraw your deposit amount and profit.

If you already made so much profit (from $100 to $2000) then why one need to worry about bouns amount?

Your gambling to make money then whether it comes from bouns amount or your deposit amount doesn't matter right?

I don't know if this is the case, this is what I am wondering. Am I able to withdraw winnings if I don't gamble with any bonus funds? It should be yes but I have a feeling it is a no. It is a stupid setup with bonuses and makes me not take any.

[chris200x9]

Let's say you deposit 100 and get a 100% bonus so you have 200 to play with. You start playing and winning and never dip below 100 into your bonus funds, and now you're up to 2000. No matter how much you play, you can't withdraw until your balance goes below 100. Only then will the wagering requirements start. So you'd have to go from 2000 to 100, then play with 30x wagering before you can withdraw.

You mean to say you can't even withdraw your winnings, not bonus amount? What I knew is you just need to wager 2X amount to withdraw your deposit amount and profit.

If you already made so much profit (from $100 to $2000) then why one need to worry about bouns amount?

Your gambling to make money then whether it comes from bouns amount or your deposit amount doesn't matter right?

I could say with certainty that You are definitely not reading at all at all, if he cant clear the wagering requirement then he wont be able to withdraw anything at all. It is not a matter about making $2000 out of $100 deposits. Once you take the deposit bonus or some sort of bonus from a gambling site then you will need to clear a wagering requirement before being able to withdraw

I never wagered with bonus amount so don't know how it works. I didn't know that once claim bonus then must meet those requirement to withdraw even our deposited amount.

If that is the case then it is better to gamble with your money instead of going for the bonus unless one just want to gamble for fun and not worried about the deposited money then they will get additional funds to play a game for more time.

[panjul07]

Let's say you deposit 100 and get a 100% bonus so you have 200 to play with. You start playing and winning and never dip below 100 into your bonus funds, and now you're up to 2000. No matter how much you play, you can't withdraw until your balance goes below 100. Only then will the wagering requirements start. So you'd have to go from 2000 to 100, then play with 30x wagering before you can withdraw.

You mean to say you can't even withdraw your winnings, not bonus amount? What I knew is you just need to wager 2X amount to withdraw your deposit amount and profit.

If you already made so much profit (from $100 to $2000) then why one need to worry about bouns amount?

Your gambling to make money then whether it comes from bouns amount or your deposit amount doesn't matter right?

I don't know if this is the case, this is what I am wondering. Am I able to withdraw winnings if I don't gamble with any bonus funds? It should be yes but I have a feeling it is a no. It is a stupid setup with bonuses and makes me not take any.

You have the point but indeed there is no clear terms about your main concern. It is only being stated on their terms:

Requesting a withdrawal of funds before wagering requirements have been met will lead to bonus money being forfeited and all funds won using the bonus money being lost.

Players are using real balance first and having chance to win big using the real balance (not using bonus). If this case happen and there is no terms about winning using real balance will be forfeited if we request withdrawal before meeting the requirement, so logically your winning wont be lost as per terms only winning amount using bonus money will be lost.
Fortunejack should make it clear, so there wont be confusion and accusation because of this unclear terms about the bonus.

[marlboroza]

Let's say you deposit 100 and get a 100% bonus so you have 200 to play with. You start playing and winning and never dip below 100 into your bonus funds, and now you're up to 2000. No matter how much you play, you can't withdraw until your balance goes below 100. Only then will the wagering requirements start. So you'd have to go from 2000 to 100, then play with 30x wagering before you can withdraw.

I asked support months ago about this and that should be correct.

You have to lose bonus balance first and then wager remaining funds. I never used bonus because of this rule as I don't see point of such bonus, unless support didn't inform me well, which I doubt or they changed something in ToS, which I also doubt.

[BTCevo]

Players are using real balance first and having chance to win big using the real balance (not using bonus). If this case happen and there is no terms about winning using real balance will be forfeited if we request withdrawal before meeting the requirement, so logically your winning wont be lost as per terms only winning amount using bonus money will be lost.
Fortunejack should make it clear, so there wont be confusion and accusation because of this unclear terms about the bonus.

I think that it is pretty common thing and players usually already know that on everytime they use the bonus code, their game will start using the real money first before the bonus as well. And it can't be forfeit because you start from your balance instead of the bonus. Some of them even try to forfeit it because they can't finish what they start and they are starting to make nonsense thing which is really absurd thing

[panjul07]

Players are using real balance first and having chance to win big using the real balance (not using bonus). If this case happen and there is no terms about winning using real balance will be forfeited if we request withdrawal before meeting the requirement, so logically your winning wont be lost as per terms only winning amount using bonus money will be lost.
Fortunejack should make it clear, so there wont be confusion and accusation because of this unclear terms about the bonus.

I think that it is pretty common thing and players usually already know that on everytime they use the bonus code, their game will start using the real money first before the bonus as well. And it can't be forfeit because you start from your balance instead of the bonus. Some of them even try to forfeit it because they can't finish what they start and they are starting to make nonsense thing which is really absurd thing

Indeed it is a common thing if we talk about which balance to be used first, but it is the only site where wagering requirement is started to count when players using bonus balance only. AFAIK other sites does not do the same thing, means that once players start to wager no matter using real balance or bonus balance then it will be counted towards wagering requirement.
This is why above users asking about winning using real balance while at other hand he need to lose his real balance first in order to complete wagering requirement. In short, once players take a bonus then there is no chance to win big with the real balance as even if they win big then they need to lose it first.

[BTCevo]

Players are using real balance first and having chance to win big using the real balance (not using bonus). If this case happen and there is no terms about winning using real balance will be forfeited if we request withdrawal before meeting the requirement, so logically your winning wont be lost as per terms only winning amount using bonus money will be lost.
Fortunejack should make it clear, so there wont be confusion and accusation because of this unclear terms about the bonus.

I think that it is pretty common thing and players usually already know that on everytime they use the bonus code, their game will start using the real money first before the bonus as well. And it can't be forfeit because you start from your balance instead of the bonus. Some of them even try to forfeit it because they can't finish what they start and they are starting to make nonsense thing which is really absurd thing

Indeed it is a common thing if we talk about which balance to be used first, but it is the only site where wagering requirement is started to count when players using bonus balance only. AFAIK other sites does not do the same thing, means that once players start to wager no matter using real balance or bonus balance then it will be counted towards wagering requirement.
This is why above users asking about winning using real balance while at other hand he need to lose his real balance first in order to complete wagering requirement. In short, once players take a bonus then there is no chance to win big with the real balance as even if they win big then they need to lose it first.

Im sorry for missing that part then, so you are saying whenever players take the bonus code, it is a must to lose your initial balance before you can get the wagering counted? So nothing will be counted when you are still playing on your real balance? Then is it better not to use the bonus code, I mean people use that bonus because they want to try their luck and complete the requirement but if they only counted from the bonus then will it just be a pointless thing to get the bonus?

[coinermang]

Players are using real balance first and having chance to win big using the real balance (not using bonus). If this case happen and there is no terms about winning using real balance will be forfeited if we request withdrawal before meeting the requirement, so logically your winning wont be lost as per terms only winning amount using bonus money will be lost.
Fortunejack should make it clear, so there wont be confusion and accusation because of this unclear terms about the bonus.

I think that it is pretty common thing and players usually already know that on everytime they use the bonus code, their game will start using the real money first before the bonus as well. And it can't be forfeit because you start from your balance instead of the bonus. Some of them even try to forfeit it because they can't finish what they start and they are starting to make nonsense thing which is really absurd thing

Indeed it is a common thing if we talk about which balance to be used first, but it is the only site where wagering requirement is started to count when players using bonus balance only. AFAIK other sites does not do the same thing, means that once players start to wager no matter using real balance or bonus balance then it will be counted towards wagering requirement.
This is why above users asking about winning using real balance while at other hand he need to lose his real balance first in order to complete wagering requirement. In short, once players take a bonus then there is no chance to win big with the real balance as even if they win big then they need to lose it first.

Im sorry for missing that part then, so you are saying whenever players take the bonus code, it is a must to lose your initial balance before you can get the wagering counted? So nothing will be counted when you are still playing on your real balance? Then is it better not to use the bonus code, I mean people use that bonus because they want to try their luck and complete the requirement but if they only counted from the bonus then will it just be a pointless thing to get the bonus?

Yes that is how the bonuses work. But if you win big using the real money balance, can you cash everything out, just minus the bonus amount? The terms say yes but like said earlier it just needs to be stated more clearly.

Requesting a withdrawal of funds before wagering requirements have been met will lead to bonus money being forfeited and all funds won using the bonus money being lost.

[FortuneJack]

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- a bit from recent publication on our publishing channels.

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[Lucky7btc]

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FJ seems to be stalling on paying a legit winner. This has been going on since June. As your customer service agent, Robert is horrible. He takes forever to respond to chat or emails and he allows withdrawals to just pend forever.

[Zer0ttt]

Fortunejack support have such little ability to solve anything of importance in a timely manner. This is a management problem and needs fixing. High rollers don't want their time wasted.

My deposit has a problem
there is a technical issue
Lily avatar
and funds will be credited within some hours
the race is almost over
can you get this done now!
I was one of the first to contact about it, because I was told there was no problem
Lily avatar
unfortunately, I am not able to speed up this issue
why not?
Lily avatar
because it needs time
My transfer has 48 confirmations
Lily avatar
and support agent is not able to affect on the process
it's not a small amount of money
Lily avatar
I understand
who can?
is there a VIP contact you can give that can action this?
Lily avatar
but please understand that technical issues may happen and it needs time to be fixed
I want to play with my money now
there must be someone that can update my account
Lily avatar
I understand but...
as your casino has my funds
I would like to file a complaint
please make sure this is heard by managment
you can send it at support@fortunejack.com
Lily avatar
okay , I can make it sure
aren't you support?
is there anyone else I can speak to?
i contacted FJ about this many hours ago and was told it's not a issue
I had to keep pushing until something was done
yes, I am support and at the moment you can talk only with me
Lily avatar
I can assure you that your funds are secure
my understanding is the transaction has 48 confirmations it should be a easy manual adjustment to get the funds
Lily avatar
it just needs time to be fixed
why time?
you seem so sure that this is what's needed
Lily avatar
Usually, technical issues needs time for fixing
but it should take a few secondsfor someone with the ability
I have deposited over 7 BTC to your casino
I want priority when I contact you about a issue
I understand you can't do anything
but I want you to find someone who can

[Lucky7btc]

Fortunejack support have such little ability to solve anything of importance in a timely manner. This is a management problem and needs fixing. High rollers don't want their time wasted.

My deposit has a problem
there is a technical issue
Lily avatar
and funds will be credited within some hours
the race is almost over
can you get this done now!
I was one of the first to contact about it, because I was told there was no problem
Lily avatar
unfortunately, I am not able to speed up this issue
why not?
Lily avatar
because it needs time
My transfer has 48 confirmations
Lily avatar
and support agent is not able to affect on the process
it's not a small amount of money
Lily avatar
I understand
who can?
is there a VIP contact you can give that can action this?
Lily avatar
but please understand that technical issues may happen and it needs time to be fixed
I want to play with my money now
there must be someone that can update my account
Lily avatar
I understand but...
as your casino has my funds
I would like to file a complaint
please make sure this is heard by managment
you can send it at support@fortunejack.com
Lily avatar
okay , I can make it sure
aren't you support?
is there anyone else I can speak to?
i contacted FJ about this many hours ago and was told it's not a issue
I had to keep pushing until something was done
yes, I am support and at the moment you can talk only with me
Lily avatar
I can assure you that your funds are secure
my understanding is the transaction has 48 confirmations it should be a easy manual adjustment to get the funds
Lily avatar
it just needs time to be fixed
why time?
you seem so sure that this is what's needed
Lily avatar
Usually, technical issues needs time for fixing
but it should take a few secondsfor someone with the ability
I have deposited over 7 BTC to your casino
I want priority when I contact you about a issue
I understand you can't do anything
but I want you to find someone who can

They suck so bad with CS it's a shame. I have gone back to old fashion casinos. FJ and Bitcasino have really fumbled the ball.

[Zer0ttt]

They suck so bad with CS it's a shame. I have gone back to old fashion casinos. FJ and Bitcasino have really fumbled the ball.

I have asked management to contact me to discuss how their support can be improved. I wait for contact. Hopefully something is done or I will also leave.

[FortuneJack]

"Online Casinos that are blockchain based will have an advantage over those that are not."

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What do you think, how much crypto and gambling are bonded?
read a new post on https://fortunejack.com/blog/article/how-blockchain-will-disrupt-gambling and don't be shy to share your thoughts in comments

[shield132]

To be fair I have never interested in blockchain based gambling websites but I am a huge fan of blockchain technology because it's really amazing, it's future. But I can't agree you in one task: A Casino that integrates crypto isn't more progressive to new technologies than others who doesn't. Usually owners do this because there are less opponents in crypto market, they are more anonymous and they have one payment way which is pretty easy to handle.

[Theb]

To be fair I have never interested in blockchain based gambling websites but I am a huge fan of blockchain technology because it's really amazing, it's future. But I can't agree you in one task: A Casino that integrates crypto isn't more progressive to new technologies than others who doesn't. Usually owners do this because there are less opponents in crypto market, they are more anonymous and they have one payment way which is pretty easy to handle.

The article stayed true to how the gambling sites are benefiting to the blockchain technology but mainly the point being is because of the use of cryptocurrencies as the main mode of betting. The cryptocurrency market opened up a lot of convenience to a lot of people. First of their are people who want to enjoy the casino but they are too lazy to go, there are people where they don't have e-games sites on their country, there are people who don't want to be members in casinos, cryptocurrency gambling sites offer a way for them and it use up not their money but just their cryptocurrency which is more convenient compared to paying up with Paypal or your credit card.