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February 24, 2019, 11:13:22 AM
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Did they give you any reason why it took 4 days to get your money ? I had the same issue with somewhere else as well and I feel like this late withdrawals are getting more common. I don't think any casino has given us a reason why but it has been constantly happening for the past 2-3 weeks so far, they always delay their withdrawals, not just here don't get me wrong, among many many casinos and for each amount, not just small or big ones.

They are random as well, some people get it in 30 minutes but some people get it in 2 days. Considering this is getting more common in all of casino and has no pattern at all, I kinda can't stop wondering what happened a month ago that made all casinos randomly select few withdrawals to delay. I don't the reason but I would love to hear it.

People just don't listen when I try to tell them FJ is a rigged and rogued casino. But they are so happy to just continue to troll for them. Here is a complaint just been filed by someone who says they have proof their dice game is rigged!

I used to submitted a complaint about Fortunejack dice scam, you told me I don't have enough data to prove it, now I have it. But Fortunejack team only sent me my lastest 2000 rolls, and refused to provided more. As a sample, I count and ananysis the data and found the issue.
The chart in this email shows clearly that the higher you bet, the higher the chance you lose.
To put it another way, your bet amount will influence the roll.
I'll list some data here: I played with payout 1.5-1.6, win chance 66-61.87%. The overall win chance of my lastest 2000 rolls is 65.3%, well, this is fine. But the win chance decrease while the bet amount is doubled:
Bet amount 0.001, win chance 65.5% (>65.3%)
Bet amount 0.002, win chance 66.8% (>65.3%),
---here is where the trick comes in---
Bet amount 0.004, win chance 65.0% (<65.3%),
Bet amount 0.008, win chance 63.4% (<65.3%),
Bet amount 0.032, win chance 64.3% (<65.3%),
Bet amount 0.064, win chance 55.6% (<65.3%).
See? The higher the bet, the lower the win chance!
We can see clearly the trend from 2000 rolls, the trend will be more clearer if the Fortunejack team can provide all my history.
If you insist the data is not enough, the Fortunejack should be obliged to provide enough data against my proof and conclusion.


But yet FJ refuses to provide this player with the remaining data that they asked for to further prove his case, and they also refused to even comment on his complaint (thus far)
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February 25, 2019, 08:42:36 PM
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Why does FJ require my phone number just to receive a bonus, when I've had my account there for probably 5 years now?  I've never had a casino ask for my phone number to receive a bonus - that's absurd.

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February 25, 2019, 08:47:25 PM
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Did they give you any reason why it took 4 days to get your money ? I had the same issue with somewhere else as well and I feel like this late withdrawals are getting more common. I don't think any casino has given us a reason why but it has been constantly happening for the past 2-3 weeks so far, they always delay their withdrawals, not just here don't get me wrong, among many many casinos and for each amount, not just small or big ones.

They are random as well, some people get it in 30 minutes but some people get it in 2 days. Considering this is getting more common in all of casino and has no pattern at all, I kinda can't stop wondering what happened a month ago that made all casinos randomly select few withdrawals to delay. I don't the reason but I would love to hear it.

People just don't listen when I try to tell them FJ is a rigged and rogued casino. But they are so happy to just continue to troll for them. Here is a complaint just been filed by someone who says they have proof their dice game is rigged!

I used to submitted a complaint about Fortunejack dice scam, you told me I don't have enough data to prove it, now I have it. But Fortunejack team only sent me my lastest 2000 rolls, and refused to provided more. As a sample, I count and ananysis the data and found the issue.
The chart in this email shows clearly that the higher you bet, the higher the chance you lose.
To put it another way, your bet amount will influence the roll.
I'll list some data here: I played with payout 1.5-1.6, win chance 66-61.87%. The overall win chance of my lastest 2000 rolls is 65.3%, well, this is fine. But the win chance decrease while the bet amount is doubled:
Bet amount 0.001, win chance 65.5% (>65.3%)
Bet amount 0.002, win chance 66.8% (>65.3%),
---here is where the trick comes in---
Bet amount 0.004, win chance 65.0% (<65.3%),
Bet amount 0.008, win chance 63.4% (<65.3%),
Bet amount 0.032, win chance 64.3% (<65.3%),
Bet amount 0.064, win chance 55.6% (<65.3%).
See? The higher the bet, the lower the win chance!
We can see clearly the trend from 2000 rolls, the trend will be more clearer if the Fortunejack team can provide all my history.
If you insist the data is not enough, the Fortunejack should be obliged to provide enough data against my proof and conclusion.


But yet FJ refuses to provide this player with the remaining data that they asked for to further prove his case, and they also refused to even comment on his complaint (thus far)
That's because you're both idiots.  That isn't "proof", is an obscure data chunk that just happens to loosely follow his uninformed hypothesis.  That's not how roll outcome generation works.  The only things used to calculate roll outcomes are client seed, server seed, and nonce.  If they tried to influence it somehow using your balance or bet amounts, then you wouldn't be able to verify your rolls because they'd come back as false (in which case, then you could call it rigged).

It's always the people that don't understand Provably Fair that cry scam and rigged all the time.
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February 25, 2019, 09:02:57 PM
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Why does FJ require my phone number just to receive a bonus, when I've had my account there for probably 5 years now?  I've never had a casino ask for my phone number to receive a bonus - that's absurd.


Afaik most of their bonuses is indeed only for accounts that are verified already, verified here means mobile phone number verification. It is your own right to choose buddy, take it or leave it.  Smiley

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February 25, 2019, 09:32:20 PM
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I'll list some data here: I played with payout 1.5-1.6, win chance 66-61.87%. The overall win chance of my lastest 2000 rolls is 65.3%, well, this is fine. But the win chance decrease while the bet amount is doubled:
Bet amount 0.001, win chance 65.5% (>65.3%)
Bet amount 0.002, win chance 66.8% (>65.3%),
---here is where the trick comes in---
Bet amount 0.004, win chance 65.0% (<65.3%),
Bet amount 0.008, win chance 63.4% (<65.3%),
Bet amount 0.032, win chance 64.3% (<65.3%),
Bet amount 0.064, win chance 55.6% (<65.3%).
See? The higher the bet, the lower the win chance!
We can see clearly the trend from 2000 rolls, the trend will be more clearer if the Fortunejack team can provide all my history.
If you insist the data is not enough, the Fortunejack should be obliged to provide enough data against my proof and conclusion.

This is not proof. This is just some data about some rolls that were made in the last 2000 bets.
If  (for example) you bet with lower risk at smaller amounts, and higher risk at larger amounts, it makes sense that the higher bet amount as a a lower win percentage in the end.
Also, I would assume that less bets were made with the high value, so it is a tiny sample. You would need a way bigger sample to provide proof.

Lastly, Kiritsugu already explained that the fact that you can verify the rolls already makes it impossible to be rigged.
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February 25, 2019, 11:36:53 PM
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Why does FJ require my phone number just to receive a bonus, when I've had my account there for probably 5 years now?  I've never had a casino ask for my phone number to receive a bonus - that's absurd.


Afaik most of their bonuses is indeed only for accounts that are verified already, verified here means mobile phone number verification. It is your own right to choose buddy, take it or leave it.  Smiley

i did post & ask the same thing about the phone verification (after update) , no reply or feedback given . not sure is it still the same like previous for withdrawal (email verified) does it need to be verified (phone verification) before you can make withdrawal .
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February 26, 2019, 10:38:08 AM
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Why does FJ require my phone number just to receive a bonus, when I've had my account there for probably 5 years now?  I've never had a casino ask for my phone number to receive a bonus - that's absurd.



It's not just Fortunejack but the whole cryptogambling industry, except for some rare exceptions,  is doing everyday a step in the opposite direction of anonimity : seems like the initial idea of gambling anonimously, that fascinated me long ago, is going to die  Sad .

I guess in this case they ask to prevent multiaccounting players from taking advantage of bonus. Sometimes is to prevent illegal gambling , sometimes the reasons are other but everyday we can see with more frequency players asked some form of identification.

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February 26, 2019, 10:49:17 AM
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Did they give you any reason why it took 4 days to get your money ? I had the same issue with somewhere else as well and I feel like this late withdrawals are getting more common. I don't think any casino has given us a reason why but it has been constantly happening for the past 2-3 weeks so far, they always delay their withdrawals, not just here don't get me wrong, among many many casinos and for each amount, not just small or big ones.

They are random as well, some people get it in 30 minutes but some people get it in 2 days. Considering this is getting more common in all of casino and has no pattern at all, I kinda can't stop wondering what happened a month ago that made all casinos randomly select few withdrawals to delay. I don't the reason but I would love to hear it.

People just don't listen when I try to tell them FJ is a rigged and rogued casino. But they are so happy to just continue to troll for them. Here is a complaint just been filed by someone who says they have proof their dice game is rigged!

I used to submitted a complaint about Fortunejack dice scam, you told me I don't have enough data to prove it, now I have it. But Fortunejack team only sent me my lastest 2000 rolls, and refused to provided more. As a sample, I count and ananysis the data and found the issue.
The chart in this email shows clearly that the higher you bet, the higher the chance you lose.
To put it another way, your bet amount will influence the roll.
I'll list some data here: I played with payout 1.5-1.6, win chance 66-61.87%. The overall win chance of my lastest 2000 rolls is 65.3%, well, this is fine. But the win chance decrease while the bet amount is doubled:
Bet amount 0.001, win chance 65.5% (>65.3%)
Bet amount 0.002, win chance 66.8% (>65.3%),
---here is where the trick comes in---
Bet amount 0.004, win chance 65.0% (<65.3%),
Bet amount 0.008, win chance 63.4% (<65.3%),
Bet amount 0.032, win chance 64.3% (<65.3%),
Bet amount 0.064, win chance 55.6% (<65.3%).
See? The higher the bet, the lower the win chance!
We can see clearly the trend from 2000 rolls, the trend will be more clearer if the Fortunejack team can provide all my history.
If you insist the data is not enough, the Fortunejack should be obliged to provide enough data against my proof and conclusion.


But yet FJ refuses to provide this player with the remaining data that they asked for to further prove his case, and they also refused to even comment on his complaint (thus far)
That's because you're both idiots.  That isn't "proof", is an obscure data chunk that just happens to loosely follow his uninformed hypothesis.  That's not how roll outcome generation works.  The only things used to calculate roll outcomes are client seed, server seed, and nonce.  If they tried to influence it somehow using your balance or bet amounts, then you wouldn't be able to verify your rolls because they'd come back as false (in which case, then you could call it rigged).

It's always the people that don't understand Provably Fair that cry scam and rigged all the time.

First of all your mother is an idiot. Second yes FJ is rigged and a rogue. Third I'm only reposting one of many complaints that FJ doesn't address fully.
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February 26, 2019, 01:11:22 PM
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Why does FJ require my phone number just to receive a bonus, when I've had my account there for probably 5 years now?  I've never had a casino ask for my phone number to receive a bonus - that's absurd.



It's not just Fortunejack but the whole cryptogambling industry, except for some rare exceptions,  is doing everyday a step in the opposite direction of anonimity : seems like the initial idea of gambling anonimously, that fascinated me long ago, is going to die  Sad .

I guess in this case they ask to prevent multiaccounting players from taking advantage of bonus. Sometimes is to prevent illegal gambling , sometimes the reasons are other but everyday we can see with more frequency players asked some form of identification.
Ah, I totally forgot about them using it for preventing multi-account abuse.  That makes a lot more sense.  Thanks.
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February 26, 2019, 02:45:42 PM
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Why does FJ require my phone number just to receive a bonus, when I've had my account there for probably 5 years now?  I've never had a casino ask for my phone number to receive a bonus - that's absurd.


Afaik most of their bonuses is indeed only for accounts that are verified already, verified here means mobile phone number verification. It is your own right to choose buddy, take it or leave it.  Smiley

i did post & ask the same thing about the phone verification (after update) , no reply or feedback given . not sure is it still the same like previous for withdrawal (email verified) does it need to be verified (phone verification) before you can make withdrawal .

I believe withdrawal still can be made without phone verification. Imho, the phone verification applies for their promotion only as it is a way to avoid abuse especially promotions which good for players (+EV). Regarding withdrawal, we need to verify email in case when we change address only IIRC. If we use the same address as usual then the withdrawal will be sent without email verification.

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I just signed up at https://www.casino-review.com/fortunejack/ but didn't received my free spins. Anyone have the same problem?
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Why does FJ require my phone number just to receive a bonus, when I've had my account there for probably 5 years now?  I've never had a casino ask for my phone number to receive a bonus - that's absurd.



It's not just Fortunejack but the whole cryptogambling industry, except for some rare exceptions,  is doing everyday a step in the opposite direction of anonimity : seems like the initial idea of gambling anonimously, that fascinated me long ago, is going to die  Sad .

I guess in this case they ask to prevent multiaccounting players from taking advantage of bonus. Sometimes is to prevent illegal gambling , sometimes the reasons are other but everyday we can see with more frequency players asked some form of identification.
Ah, I totally forgot about them using it for preventing multi-account abuse.  That makes a lot more sense.  Thanks.
Ugh, I verified my phone number now and now they're saying the 0.005 no-deposit bonus email I got from them (and their Message system on-site) doesn't exist on my account...
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I just signed up at https://www.casino-review.com/fortunejack/ but didn't received my free spins. Anyone have the same problem?

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February 26, 2019, 05:01:41 PM
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It is insane that people think just 2000 bets would somehow "show the real odds in fortunejack" while not realizing there is a luck chance involved in shorter amount of bets so you would need to play thousands of hands to make it possible to determine the reality, maybe even a million.

You can't just gamble 2 thousand times and expect that everything will be exactly the same, there are tough luck times and there are lucky times, its all about the timing, if you want the house edge to get into affect you would have to look at so much more bets that in the end you should be tired even if its autobet. Companies with high cpu power do auto betting for hundreds of millions of times in order to determine if a casino is legit or not for white hack security purposes, your 2 thousand is funny compared to that.
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February 26, 2019, 09:38:50 PM
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It is insane that people think just 2000 bets would somehow "show the real odds in fortunejack" while not realizing there is a luck chance involved in shorter amount of bets so you would need to play thousands of hands to make it possible to determine the reality, maybe even a million.

You can't just gamble 2 thousand times and expect that everything will be exactly the same, there are tough luck times and there are lucky times, its all about the timing, if you want the house edge to get into affect you would have to look at so much more bets that in the end you should be tired even if its autobet. Companies with high cpu power do auto betting for hundreds of millions of times in order to determine if a casino is legit or not for white hack security purposes, your 2 thousand is funny compared to that.

The man said FJ would NOT give him his complete history but only 2000. So based on the 2000 he was able to obtain its shows that the game is indeed rigged.
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February 27, 2019, 05:42:24 PM
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Fortunejack doesn't have to give him anything, that is not their responsibility, why would fortunejack take in more responsibility for something a gambler wants to do. If you want to prove a casino is rigged instead of blaming the casino for not providing data, go out there and collect it yourself. When you gamble with your money you get the result back don't you? You either lose it or win more and that is your result. Well, do that a million times and give us the report.

Believe me when I say this no casino would even attempt to scam their customers in this rigged way because saying "we got hacked" and taking all the money customers have and leaving is faster anyway so why would they risk getting caught over few measly coins.

If the blamer wants to prove me and fortunejack wrong, just go out there and instead of asking anything from fortunejack and putting the workload on them, calculate it yourself. Because 2000 is no different than playing 10 games and making assumptions in my eye and wouldn't believe anything under 1 million bets.
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February 27, 2019, 05:52:54 PM
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Fortunejack doesn't have to give him anything, that is not their responsibility, why would fortunejack take in more responsibility for something a gambler wants to do. If you want to prove a casino is rigged instead of blaming the casino for not providing data, go out there and collect it yourself. When you gamble with your money you get the result back don't you? You either lose it or win more and that is your result. Well, do that a million times and give us the report.

Believe me when I say this no casino would even attempt to scam their customers in this rigged way because saying "we got hacked" and taking all the money customers have and leaving is faster anyway so why would they risk getting caught over few measly coins.

If the blamer wants to prove me and fortunejack wrong, just go out there and instead of asking anything from fortunejack and putting the workload on them, calculate it yourself. Because 2000 is no different than playing 10 games and making assumptions in my eye and wouldn't believe anything under 1 million bets.

Dude, you sound like a complete damn idiot. A player has a right to their game history. Have a good day dumb ass
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February 27, 2019, 10:15:48 PM
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Withdrawal seems to be delayed, it is a bit strange imho because my current (2 withdrawals) is less(not even a half) than what I made few days back. I use  the same address as usual but it needs security check? OK hopefully it wont be that long to wait as I'm going to request one more withdrawal from my sports betting winning.

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March 02, 2019, 03:02:21 PM
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A player doesn't have a "right" for their betting history ? What type of world do you live in, you can ask for it, they can share it but in no manner it is a "right". Do you know what a right is ? "Having rights" are usually either imposed with a law (have the right to carry a gun, having a right to vote etc etc) and those are "rights" for a person (changes from country to country and from law to law), in no way or shape anyone has a "right" to know their betting history, it makes no sense.

It is a privilege that if you ask for your betting history they would share anything more than your latest bet, its common sense that they share at least 2000 of them because they want to be competitive and do not want you to go to another website, but if they were to deny you to get even the last 50 bets they could if they wanted to, they just expand that to 2000 to keep you there that is all.

Having a "right" to get all of your betting history should be in the law in order to be a "right" and I bet there is absolutely NO laws requiring casinos to share that information at all. Do not mistake "moral rights" with having a right, it is your own moral compass that suggest "it should be available because its the right thing to do" and even if you are correct that doesn't make it a right, it just makes it a decent thing to do.
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