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Author Topic: [ANN][SLR] SolarCoin | PoW to PoS v. 2.0 | Solar Proof of Generation (§1 = 1MWh)  (Read 432485 times)
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June 23, 2015, 06:31:41 AM
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Attention bot owners:

I've effectively set your bots' ASKs to their lowest set range limits - by simply repeatedly "tagging" them with a small sell amount at every new position they go to.

Here, see for yourself:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/t5y4nwem71l8zov/BADsoftware.JPG?dl=0

Personally, I do NOT think this is how good bots should operate! This way anyone can cheat them into selling as low as possible. Is that what YOU need them to do? Sell for you as low as cheated into, thus bringing your profits to zero or negative on a trendy market..."market" or whatever...

If you tell me there is no way for the software to know who is a cheating buyer and who is a genuine seller - then I will tell you - the software you are using is BAD and the software limits it has are creating problems for both you and this project.

Please get these set correctly, or get better software; or if you can't do that - go play somewhere else. Decisions are made by people, not software.

Thanks you!
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June 23, 2015, 01:20:12 PM
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You are a true gentleman and scholar.

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June 23, 2015, 02:33:15 PM
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You are a true gentleman and scholar.

Don't know about that, but now by looking at the newly showing 3k x 300k, I may actually bring in 700k, put them on the 300k, so that we can squeeze out even faster every single SLR at the best selling price from the bot trying to sell before us (us being both cheating buyers apparently, in one way or another).

https://www.dropbox.com/s/plxmmxxo1dpz44s/PoorBot.JPG?dl=0

Hmmm.... Poor bot!

AI-based bots coming any time soon? 'Cause this particular one - I wouldn't use!

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June 23, 2015, 03:55:54 PM
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When POST come on board people will not have coins sitting on an exchange not earning interest that when the fun really starts...

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June 23, 2015, 05:36:30 PM
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When POST come on board people will not have coins sitting on an exchange not earning interest that when the fun really starts...

Expecting that eagerly, like everyone else here  Smiley
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June 23, 2015, 05:44:36 PM
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You are a true gentleman and scholar.

Don't know about that, but now by looking at the newly showing 3k x 300k, I may actually bring in 700k, put them on the 300k, so that we can squeeze out even faster every single SLR at the best selling price from the bot trying to sell before us (us being both cheating buyers apparently, in one way or another).

https://www.dropbox.com/s/plxmmxxo1dpz44s/PoorBot.JPG?dl=0

Hmmm.... Poor bot!

AI-based bots coming any time soon? 'Cause this particular one - I wouldn't use!

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Yes, I will really try that out now, within the hour, with some variations Wink ... Let's see if whoever is interested reads this forum, so that they get wise and remove their losing sells in time... I don't need your cheap SLRs guys. We just need this project to move on.
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June 23, 2015, 06:17:22 PM
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Thank you for the giveaway.
Will use it wisely.
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June 24, 2015, 10:07:48 AM
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You are a true gentleman and scholar.

Don't know about that, but now by looking at the newly showing 3k x 300k, I may actually bring in 700k, put them on the 300k, so that we can squeeze out even faster every single SLR at the best selling price from the bot trying to sell before us (us being both cheating buyers apparently, in one way or another).

https://www.dropbox.com/s/plxmmxxo1dpz44s/PoorBot.JPG?dl=0

Hmmm.... Poor bot!

AI-based bots coming any time soon? 'Cause this particular one - I wouldn't use!

 Lips sealed





Yes, I will really try that out now, within the hour, with some variations Wink ... Let's see if whoever is interested reads this forum, so that they get wise and remove their losing sells in time... I don't need your cheap SLRs guys. We just need this project to move on.
you may not understand the bot completely.. but i can tell you it is a quite a good tool.. it helps to stable the price.. and gives profit to me.. it buys at low prices and sells and high prices..
i started investing 0.2 BTC in SLR just 7 days ago..
now i still have 0.2 BTC in SLR, and have additional 0.12 BTC profit ..

mainly because it adjusted the price really fast on the pump..

price amount sum
06/20/2015 03:25:56 Limit Buy 0.00003166 17.37207833 -0.00055136
06/20/2015 06:15:30 Limit Sell 0.00011466 3303.94305107 0.37788304
06/20/2015 06:59:16 Limit Buy 0.00005250 2045.90496161   -0.10767853


maybe you can see the pattern here.. the bot is part of every price movement.. is there anything you can do against this?

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06/24/2015 13:38:26   Limit Sell   0.00003028   0.00000000   18.16380449   0.00000000   0.00054862   

06/24/2015 13:37:13   Limit Sell   0.00003012   0.00000000   18.26029216   0.00000000   0.00054862   

06/24/2015 13:35:55   Limit Sell   0.00002996   0.00000000   18.35781041   0.00000000   0.00054862   

06/24/2015 13:34:36   Limit Sell   0.00002980   0.00000000   18.45637584   0.00000000   0.00054863   

06/24/2015 13:33:18   Limit Sell   0.00002964   0.00000000   18.55600540   0.00000000   0.00054863   

06/24/2015 13:33:58   Limit Buy   0.00002931   0.00000000   18.76492665   0.00000000   0.00055138   

06/24/2015 13:35:16   Limit Buy   0.00002915   0.00000000   18.86792453   0.00000000   0.00055138   

06/24/2015 13:36:36   Limit Buy   0.00002899   0.00000000   18.97205933   0.00000000   0.00055137   

06/24/2015 13:37:50   Limit Buy   0.00002883   0.00000000   19.07734998   0.00000000   0.00055137   

06/24/2015 13:39:03   Limit Buy   0.00002867   0.00000000   19.18381584   0.00000000   0.00055138   

so again: this leads to a more stable price. if the bot had very much volume, then it would work against every rising price and also work against every falling price. so in my eyes it is a really fair tool that leads to market stability. you can also check https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_maker
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June 24, 2015, 01:34:56 PM
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You are a true gentleman and scholar.

Don't know about that, but now by looking at the newly showing 3k x 300k, I may actually bring in 700k, put them on the 300k, so that we can squeeze out even faster every single SLR at the best selling price from the bot trying to sell before us (us being both cheating buyers apparently, in one way or another).

https://www.dropbox.com/s/plxmmxxo1dpz44s/PoorBot.JPG?dl=0

Hmmm.... Poor bot!

AI-based bots coming any time soon? 'Cause this particular one - I wouldn't use!

 Lips sealed





Yes, I will really try that out now, within the hour, with some variations Wink ... Let's see if whoever is interested reads this forum, so that they get wise and remove their losing sells in time... I don't need your cheap SLRs guys. We just need this project to move on.
you may not understand the bot completely.. but i can tell you it is a quite a good tool.. it helps to stable the price.. and gives profit to me.. it buys at low prices and sells and high prices..
i started investing 0.2 BTC in SLR just 7 days ago..
now i still have 0.2 BTC in SLR, and have additional 0.12 BTC profit ..

mainly because it adjusted the price really fast on the pump..

price amount sum
06/20/2015 03:25:56 Limit Buy 0.00003166 17.37207833 -0.00055136
06/20/2015 06:15:30 Limit Sell 0.00011466 3303.94305107 0.37788304
06/20/2015 06:59:16 Limit Buy 0.00005250 2045.90496161   -0.10767853


maybe you can see the pattern here.. the bot is part of every price movement.. is there anything you can do against this?

Quote
06/24/2015 13:38:26   Limit Sell   0.00003028   0.00000000   18.16380449   0.00000000   0.00054862   

06/24/2015 13:37:13   Limit Sell   0.00003012   0.00000000   18.26029216   0.00000000   0.00054862   

06/24/2015 13:35:55   Limit Sell   0.00002996   0.00000000   18.35781041   0.00000000   0.00054862   

06/24/2015 13:34:36   Limit Sell   0.00002980   0.00000000   18.45637584   0.00000000   0.00054863   

06/24/2015 13:33:18   Limit Sell   0.00002964   0.00000000   18.55600540   0.00000000   0.00054863   

06/24/2015 13:33:58   Limit Buy   0.00002931   0.00000000   18.76492665   0.00000000   0.00055138   

06/24/2015 13:35:16   Limit Buy   0.00002915   0.00000000   18.86792453   0.00000000   0.00055138   

06/24/2015 13:36:36   Limit Buy   0.00002899   0.00000000   18.97205933   0.00000000   0.00055137   

06/24/2015 13:37:50   Limit Buy   0.00002883   0.00000000   19.07734998   0.00000000   0.00055137   

06/24/2015 13:39:03   Limit Buy   0.00002867   0.00000000   19.18381584   0.00000000   0.00055138   

so again: this leads to a more stable price. if the bot had very much volume, then it would work against every rising price and also work against every falling price. so in my eyes it is a really fair tool that leads to market stability. you can also check https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_maker

"so again: this leads to a more stable price."

Yes! Exactly what I am saying! Now YOU said it! BUT stable price at this current level  is NOT what we need for SLR, we need to shift to a new higher price level which will be a major marketing tool for making PV owners interested to make the effort to claim their SLR!

The purpose of finishing of Phase 1 of this project (process started by decreasing award 100 times last October, then 2 times back in February) is to shift the price UP to a level closer to the §1 = 1MWh - that is something PV owners will take as a good incentive to start claiming their SLR.

Since this is NOT a real market as of now (no, I am NOT open for arguing on this any more - you can check my previous posts, and I am proving my point of view all the time by manipulating the price up, down, holding it, and personally having been able to do the pump almost ALONE, which says everything about the NON-market reality) - it is us - the participants in this project - including you as a SLR holder and trader - who must work it out together and do the TECHNICAL price shift to finish out Phase 1 as intended and synchronize that with the transition to POST. So go ahead, talk to your fellow traders, come back here with the details on how to execute the technical shift, and let's do it. Then you will be able to stabilize the price at the new, acceptable for the PV owners level.

Remember this - PoW output is right now 60-97% done by 1-2-3 miners who are NOT selling anytime soon. One of them is me, almost never going below the 60%. So who is selling? I will tell you who - bots playing against each other....stabilizing the price (Huh). Plus someone specific who knows who he is, who is still trying to use the push-down-to-buy-lower tactic of the past. This was so much needed and NECESSARY at active mining times to keep the price from the massive SLR discharges, I used it all the time and was actively promoting it (see my SolarCoin group posts from an year ago - PM me and I will tell you my FB nickname) - and it worked perfect and saved the project 2-3 times a week! But now this IS THE PAST and only hurts the project.

Anything unclear now?

Thanks!
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June 24, 2015, 02:41:56 PM
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POST Please  Undecided

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June 24, 2015, 07:01:43 PM
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Bloomberg Business (@business) tweeted at 3:01 PM on Wed, Jun 24, 2015:
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June 25, 2015, 07:12:58 PM
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.01 cent here we go!

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June 25, 2015, 07:40:36 PM
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.01 cent here we go!

Don't you lie to us  Wink
1 cent it is...
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June 26, 2015, 03:08:18 AM
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An affiliate site in Europe is in early stages.  The operating model is that the affiliate helps local solar energy generators claim coins. In return for providing local outreach, The SolarCoin foundation pays 10% of the first years claim from the genesis pool of coins to the Affiliate.  http://solarcoin.org/en/over-2m-in-claimable-solarcoin-available-globally/

This program is open to anyone who wishes to launch an affiliate website. the general terms are
  • an affiliate can not represent itself to be the SolarCoin foundation
  • an affiliate must abide by all local laws and regulations in the domains in which it operates.
  • an affiliate may not make false claims or garuntees about price, returns or value of SolarCoin or the affiliates services.
  • An affliate must be transparent in any fees it charges a claimant
  • An affilaite must allow a claimant to transfer their ongoing claims and balances at any time
  • An affiliate must not engage in, encourage or enable fraudulent claims


So here is the first affiliate http://solar.fx-1.net/ site.  Please contact them with feedback, ideas for improvement or offers to help.

Alternatively anyone can set up their own affiliate site and claim bounties for a local region, language or group.

Another group in the US is working on a server based hosted wallet that will allow for simple registration and claim filing.  Solar electricity producers, won't have to download a wallet or the blockchain. The technology will also allow for Android and IOS wallet capabilities.

"solarcoin price"


Solarcoin (§ SLR) are like airmiles. Each 1 Mhw generated gets you §1 free. Solarcoins can purchase what others will trade: USD,BTC, Soy candles..etc.
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An affiliate site in Europe is in early stages.  The operating model is that the affiliate helps local solar energy generators claim coins. In return for providing local outreach, The SolarCoin foundation pays 10% of the first years claim from the genesis pool of coins to the Affiliate.  http://solarcoin.org/en/over-2m-in-claimable-solarcoin-available-globally/

This program is open to anyone who wishes to launch an affiliate website. the general terms are
  • an affiliate can not represent itself to be the SolarCoin foundation
  • an affiliate must abide by all local laws and regulations in the domains in which it operates.
  • an affiliate may not make false claims or garuntees about price, returns or value of SolarCoin or the affiliates services.
  • An affliate must be transparent in any fees it charges a claimant
  • An affilaite must allow a claimant to transfer their ongoing claims and balances at any time
  • An affiliate must not engage in, encourage or enable fraudulent claims


So here is the first affiliate http://solar.fx-1.net/ site.  Please contact them with feedback, ideas for improvement or offers to help.

Alternatively anyone can set up their own affiliate site and claim bounties for a local region, language or group.

Another group in the US is working on a server based hosted wallet that will allow for simple registration and claim filing.  Solar electricity producers, won't have to download a wallet or the blockchain. The technology will also allow for Android and IOS wallet capabilities.

"solarcoin price"



Long wait - good news!  Smiley
Thank you! Will be setting up a local site soon!
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June 26, 2015, 07:37:31 AM
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No response from the bot owners yet... but I do have a suggestion for them!

Instead of their tools looking funny jumping around like crazy, why don't they take the 4 BTC they got from us just recently for their cheap SLR (and now apparently out of SLR to keep "stabilizing" the price a.k.a. making easy automatic profits), and buy UP to 7457, and start "stabilizing" there:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/x091u9nye3uojp3/DoTheMath.JPG?dl=0

Do the math! You, not the bots. They don't do that kind of math well... apparently  Wink

Other than that... I am really eager to sell 40000 at 3345.
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June 26, 2015, 09:59:26 AM
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i am not interested in changing the price. i furthermore don't close orders. i only open them and the free market decides to trade with me.
i am interested in buying and selling and the "real" price
so when you create your order of 0.00000001 SLR, this does not influence my concept.
it is furthermore an useful indicator: as long as the high buy order is still there, nobody sold coins. so the real price is above that order.
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June 26, 2015, 10:26:27 AM
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i am not interested in changing the price. i furthermore don't close orders. i only open them and the free market decides to trade with me.
i am interested in buying and selling and the "real" price
so when you create your order of 0.00000001 SLR, this does not influence my concept.
it is furthermore an useful indicator: as long as the high buy order is still there, nobody sold coins. so the real price is above that order.

OK then.
Stay delusional about the "reality" of this particular "market" at this particular moment. That's completely up to you to decide, who am I to judge anyway Wink  I've provided you with all the info and long-term observations (check your messages), you make your decisions. Your calculations at the end of this project phase, when the true free market kicks in, will show you the truth - but of course ONLY if you compare your actual profit/loss results to the possible profit/loss you would have made if you had considered the facts as they are.
Good luck!
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June 27, 2015, 09:30:06 AM
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An affiliate site in Europe is in early stages.  The operating model is that the affiliate helps local solar energy generators claim coins. In return for providing local outreach, The SolarCoin foundation pays 10% of the first years claim from the genesis pool of coins to the Affiliate.  http://solarcoin.org/en/over-2m-in-claimable-solarcoin-available-globally/

This program is open to anyone who wishes to launch an affiliate website. the general terms are
  • an affiliate can not represent itself to be the SolarCoin foundation
  • an affiliate must abide by all local laws and regulations in the domains in which it operates.
  • an affiliate may not make false claims or garuntees about price, returns or value of SolarCoin or the affiliates services.
  • An affliate must be transparent in any fees it charges a claimant
  • An affilaite must allow a claimant to transfer their ongoing claims and balances at any time
  • An affiliate must not engage in, encourage or enable fraudulent claims


So here is the first affiliate http://solar.fx-1.net/ site.  Please contact them with feedback, ideas for improvement or offers to help.

Alternatively anyone can set up their own affiliate site and claim bounties for a local region, language or group.

Another group in the US is working on a server based hosted wallet that will allow for simple registration and claim filing.  Solar electricity producers, won't have to download a wallet or the blockchain. The technology will also allow for Android and IOS wallet capabilities.

"solarcoin price"



Nick, one question here:
Can a country-specific affiliate website use the word "SolarCoin" in the domain name?
Like in www.solarcoin-country.com
Thanks!
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Price is looking healthy.  Smiley
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