[ANN][SLR] SolarCoin | PoW to PoS v. 2.0 | Solar Proof of Generation (§1 = 1MWh)

[y_virtual]

FYI - 50 years - in Electronics:
http://spectrum.ieee.org/semiconductors/processors/the-multiple-lives-of-moores-law

[lfloorwalker]

FYI - 50 years - in Electronics:
http://spectrum.ieee.org/semiconductors/processors/the-multiple-lives-of-moores-law

Reading this article, I think we should be more excited about being able to measure SolarCoin generation from a small integrated measurement chips with Moore's law 3.0.
Similarly, Swanson's law http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swanson%27s_law applies to Solar Energy production costs in a similar way to how Moore's Law 1.0 and 2.0 worked.

[vipgelsi]

We are only 1 year in give it time just like bitcoin took years. Best part yet solar hasn't even had a pump and dump yet fun times ahead.

[mattwj44]

Do you want to know how you can raise the price of this coin without having to do anything drastic or make crazy changes to the coin itself?

>> DONATE SOME OF YOUR COINS BACK TO THE GENERATOR POOLS  << it is the only real way to publicly and verifiably burn/remove useless coins from the market, thus raising fiat pricing per coin left on the market.... this has only one outcome and that is to attract more public attention and resources.


Gen pool 1 address : 8Lv6jBL1AZ4Emdeaen8Q7aUp9XrJjChzRo
Gen pool 2 address : 8Kau7tve5QoGKNMHomDr2tHcAMmqUN2zYu


We all know that there have been about 33,000,000 coins handed out that have ZERO actual solar claims backing their existence… These coins are worth nothing and bring down the price because they don’t represent real value added to the system from real Solar participation as was intended by the coin's creators.

If all who read this decided to burn some of what they have mined/stored, prices would rise & that would solve MOST ISSUES >>>  decrease SLR supply = ^ price per coin = more claimants = more companies = more programmers = more media =  more actual public interest


Bottom line: Don’t be selfish, I have personally “burned” over 70k SLR in the gen pool to make up for what I mined and I know you can do the same. No one cares about anything but money so why not take some actions to raise the rarity of the coin and therefore bring more money to the table so others will get onboard instead of holding too many coins worth less than .004 cents each?

This is THE fastest and easiest way to attain growth, bar-none. Most other cryptos don't have this gen-pool option so it isn't something we see every day, but mark my words that if a large % of the mined coins were to end up back in the pool that would solve a lot of pricing issues and thus galvanize interest and growth. No one can steal or manipulate your coins if you donate to either of the authentic Solar Generator pools as those are public, those coins are just taken off the market and locked away for only Claimants to bring them out again through the proper 1MWH = 1SLR method... end of story!!!!


Got a better or more simple idea you can implement system-wide? I doubt it  

[vipgelsi]

Lets not and say we did.

[mattwj44]

Lets not and say we did.

Give me one good reason why people shouldn't do this? Oh because you dont want to give up a small % of your precious coin that isnt worth jack sh#t?   

[Jamil.Kamil]

Soler is the new revulsion in our latest technology systems...

[vipgelsi]

Lets not and say we did.

Give me one good reason why people shouldn't do this? Oh because you dont want to give up a small % of your precious coin that isnt worth jack sh#t?   

Its called capitalism.

[mattwj44]

Lets not and say we did.

Give me one good reason why people shouldn't do this? Oh because you dont want to give up a small % of your precious coin that isnt worth jack sh#t?   

Its called capitalism.

Explain to me how what I just described is not capitalistic? I just gave you a way to raise price thus making you money and also to eliminate coins which were distributed in a very non-capitalistic way in comparison with how the SLR coin is supposed to function.

Clearly you don't want to participate because you don't have the brass to do it just the same as most of the other people in this coin space, but that's okay just keep holding on to coins that you did not rightfully earned through caching solar and the value should magically appear on its own anyway right? 

[vipgelsi]

Burning coins is not going to raise the price. Buy some and see if that works.

I forgot talk is cheap that would cost $

[mattwj44]

Burning coins is not going to raise the price. Buy some and see if that works.

I forgot talk is cheap that would cost $

I believe you misunderstand me, I'm not suggesting that people buy coins off the market and burn them, rather that they take some of the supply which they mined into existence in burns that instead.

Also, if you don't think that removing coins from a market wouldn't increase the price per coin then you clearly do not understand economics as an increase in rarity is also followed by an increase in price in any situation.

The less coins there are on the market, the closer each coin will be to pricing at the marginal cost of 1 MWh of captured PV power which is intended in its value.



I'll tell you what is not capitalistic and will not raise price, A whole bunch of people holding onto coins that they are only supposed to have through capturing photovoltaic energy when in fact all they have done is paid a few dollars war turned a few computers to a specific mining pool.

Go read up on economics or study any type of monetary policy and you will see that everything I've said is very true and it is not easy to argue against it so good luck with that.

[user_fred]

Burning coins is not going to raise the price. Buy some and see if that works.

I forgot talk is cheap that would cost $

The less coins there are on the market,

Correct me if i am wrong, we are not supposed to distribute SLR  instead of reducing SLR What you suggest is to invert the goal of this project ; the 1st goal of this project is to support solar production , not to support solar investment, it s a plus for investors if it succeeds. This SLR coin is not like the other, i like it

[mattwj44]

Burning coins is not going to raise the price. Buy some and see if that works.

I forgot talk is cheap that would cost $

The less coins there are on the market,

Correct me if i am wrong, we are not supposed to distribute SLR  instead of reducing SLR What you suggest is to invert the goal of this project ; the 1st goal of this project is to support solar production , not to support solar investment, it s a plus for investors if it succeeds. This SLR coin is not like the other, i like it

I agree with you 100% that we should also be distributing coins to PV generators, however something tells me that there are already way too many coins on the market to simply fix this issue by distributing coins to those who claim solar.

I am NOT saying that we should simply burn coins, I am saying that we should add the burn strategy ALONG with re-distributing mined coins to those who actually capture solar energy.... This way the coins would increase in value, And also the number of individuals who hold the coins will increase as well and that would also increase the value. This isn't an all or nothing strategy, it is simply a short term fix to bump up the price a bit so we will have both solar investors AND solar users in the group because as of right now even the people I have talked to who own PV systems wouldn't care if I gave them 1,000,000 coins because the coins arent worth jack squat.


If you want to bring more claimants into the space the coin must be worth some money so the claimants will actually have a reason to claim, otherwise they will not care enough to even download the wallet or visit the website because it is a complete waste of time.

Everyone who cares about SLR should try to burn a few coins, distribute some coins to photovoltaic users, and also do a little bit of promotion as well... This would be a perfect trifecta to help skyrocket interest in general across the SLR space!!!   ( hope that makes sense  )

[lfloorwalker]

Hi all,

We have a lot going on under the hood for solcrypto.

Firstly, a way to make generators display that they have produced X many SLR. Talking to 2 manufacturers to be their distributers of these specialist pieces of equipment.
Secondly, making apps for the site.

Thirdly, SLUSH Asia pitching contest. http://asia.slush.org/ in Tokyo on April 24th. We will describe Solcrypto, but it also requires an amazing and easy to understand description of SolarCoin.

Community- we value your expert opinion so much: PLEASE send (1) useful (2) and timely suggestions for the slush asia pitch.

a) Current market size (global)
b) Future market size (global) and then per region (Europe, USA, Asia and ROTW)
c) Other ideas

Thanks,
yours in the light
-lfloorwalker

[vipgelsi]

Let it rain paper wallets with solarcoin in them to the crowd. It sounds funny but seriouse would be a good idea / Attention getter.

[nickgogerty]

Hi all,

We have a lot going on under the hood for solcrypto.

Firstly, a way to make generators display that they have produced X many SLR. Talking to 2 manufacturers to be their distributers of these specialist pieces of equipment.
Secondly, making apps for the site.

Thirdly, SLUSH Asia pitching contest. http://asia.slush.org/ in Tokyo on April 24th. We will describe Solcrypto, but it also requires an amazing and easy to understand description of SolarCoin.

Community- we value your expert opinion so much: PLEASE send (1) useful (2) and timely suggestions for the slush asia pitch.

a) Current market size (global)
b) Future market size (global) and then per region (Europe, USA, Asia and ROTW)
c) Other ideas

Thanks,
yours in the light
-lfloorwalker

Luke. firstly, super cool you are doing this.  Let us know how we can help.  Do you want solar installs? users? etc. Francois' and Marios' estimate 6m potential claimants, which is a number that is growing fast.  I have CC:d others building sites in N&S America and Europe who may provide their estimates for market sizing and their own goals. 

[Jamil.Kamil]

If aliens could find about our Solar certainly was gather to stock in....

[mattwj44]

Let it rain paper wallets with solarcoin in them to the crowd. It sounds funny but seriouse would be a good idea / Attention getter.

we could even get an SLR float in parades and hand out free coins with a paper wallet or something like that.. not a bad idea at all in some places where PV systems are known to be popular

[CryptoNick]

I just figured out a better way for liquidity to transpire and also make it so that no one can profit from the coin. Make the price .00000001 for each coin and then have claims available for a Quadrillion Coin. If the price goes up it just means people wanted to use the coin instead of claim it. Then you can only go up from there and everyone who buys in knows they could claim for free but would rather just buy in. This may be another example of why there is no Buy support other than people wanting to get rich off the coin. If profit takers are all you can rely on to buy out merchants it won't make the Merchants happy.

[mattwj44]

I just figured out a better way for liquidity to transpire and also make it so that no one can profit from the coin. Make the price .00000001 for each coin and then have claims available for a Quadrillion Coin. If the price goes up it just means people wanted to use the coin instead of claim it. Then you can only go up from there and everyone who buys in knows they could claim for free but would rather just buy in. This may be another example of why there is no Buy support other than people wanting to get rich off the coin. If profit takers are all you can rely on to buy out merchants it won't make the Merchants happy.

This makes no sense whatsoever, also I believe you have a very narrow minded view of what type of people will be available to buy the coin... This market will not only consists of people seeking to make a profit, I'm willing to bet there will be many people who use and hold onto SLR just because they believe in the cause in for many other reasons.

To say that people will only use the coin for one type of purpose is very narrow minded especially since we haven't even seen how the coin will react once it's market is primarily made up of claimants..... There will be plenty of buyers in plenty of buy support as soon as we can get people who have PV Systems to start claiming the coin at a larger rate and thus driving up the price as more true solar-backed coin enters the market