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November 15, 2014, 09:17:52 PM
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luck seems quite good --- makes me wonder about some larger pools and if they are being 'attacked' with selfish mining/block witholding.....

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November 15, 2014, 09:33:04 PM
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luck seems quite good --- makes me wonder about some larger pools and if they are being 'attacked' with selfish mining/block witholding.....

It's mathematically impossible to get more than 100% over a long period of time.  It is incredibly lucky that this pool is doing so well ... at some point luck will turn.  

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EDIT: That's assuming someone didn't find a way to magically find blocks.  That's highly unlikely (presumably impossible), of course.  If so, it's the end of Bitcoin as we know it.

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November 15, 2014, 09:36:02 PM
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luck seems quite good --- makes me wonder about some larger pools and if they are being 'attacked' with selfish mining/block witholding.....

It's mathematically unlikely to get more than 100% over a long period of time.  It is incredibly lucky that this pool is doing so well ... at some point luck will turn.  

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EDIT: That's assuming someone didn't find a way to magically find blocks.  That's highly unlikely (presumably impossible), of course.  If so, it's the end of Bitcoin as we know it.

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November 15, 2014, 09:38:59 PM
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luck seems quite good --- makes me wonder about some larger pools and if they are being 'attacked' with selfish mining/block witholding.....

It's mathematically impossible to get more than 100% over a long period of time.  It is incredibly lucky that this pool is doing so well ... at some point luck will turn.  

EDIT: That's assuming someone didn't find a way to magically find blocks.  That's highly unlikely (presumably impossible), of course.  If so, it's the end of Bitcoin as we know it.
Well I wrote all the mining code in ckpool and it's all available for public download. The code we're running is identical to what's on git (though usually an older form since we minimise the number of restarts to not affect miners). I can tell you we're not doing anything magical

Yes we have been lucky but there is nothing that will guarantee we can maintain that. We will have bad luck in the future, it is guaranteed, but things always even out over time and that's no reason not to enjoy the runs of luck.

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November 15, 2014, 09:40:40 PM
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Also, how often will the "Workers" menu update to see each rigs stats (Hash rate, etc.)?
Currently, hash rate updates about once every 10 minutes (that will change to 1m in the future)
Everything else is instantaneous e.g. you'll notice that "Last Share" can say 0s.

An observation ... moved some S3's over to the pool earlier today, and it's taken about 3 hours before they are showing their correct individual hash rate.

However, my expected combined total hash rate shown was pretty spot on after 30 minutes.

Spondoolies miners show their correct individual hash rate much quicker.

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November 15, 2014, 09:46:34 PM
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^ same here(3 hours in).... my hashrate keeps going up and then way down(pool side). I guess it will stable within 24 hours.

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November 15, 2014, 10:19:19 PM
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Yep - that's why the change is needed, Con has already done the ckpool changes in a branch, for me to just use his worker level stats (which is more accurate than the way I add the userstats info together), so I'll catch up with the ckdb changes soon.

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November 15, 2014, 10:25:47 PM
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^ you guys are great!!!

Listen: meat beat manifesto ~ Edge of no control (pt.1)
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November 15, 2014, 11:31:27 PM
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My machines are at MiningRigRentals dot com - And I rent there too for Kano pool, no problems so far.
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November 16, 2014, 04:23:24 AM
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luck seems quite good --- makes me wonder about some larger pools and if they are being 'attacked' with selfish mining/block witholding.....

It's mathematically impossible to get more than 100% over a long period of time.  It is incredibly lucky that this pool is doing so well ... at some point luck will turn.  

M

EDIT: That's assuming someone didn't find a way to magically find blocks.  That's highly unlikely (presumably impossible), of course.  If so, it's the end of Bitcoin as we know it.

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    You can send 500th of dead hash (due to poorly written code) at a pool and hurt it.
  Was done to btcguild  was supposed to be an accident.  So if I was a huge attacker I could attack the bigger pools with false hash.  This would benefit the pools I don't attack.  Thus if I had 100ph of false hash on the network right now spread between every pool but kano's kano would have great luck.  Would cost me a fortune to do unless I have  a better hashing machine then anyone in the world.  I don't .
 The only true protection against this attack is to solo mine.
 
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November 16, 2014, 07:42:39 AM
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I've added another section in the opening post:

Transactions
The pool will mine any and all transactions that the standard bitcoind will accept.
The relevant setting I currently use in bitcoin.conf is:
 blockmaxsize=850000
I do not currently change the default on any other of the txn control options, I do not blacklist addresses, I do not prioritise transactions for any companies.
If this should ever change, I will post the full details when I do the change with the reasons why.

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November 16, 2014, 02:05:21 PM
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My hashrate stabilized to correct ghs after the first 6 hours. All looks great.

I do have something for the suggestion box(or I may be doing something wrong) we need some type of cookie or something for the dashboard so I don't have to keep putting my username and password in every time I want to check my stats. I use android only(other than pi's) and made a shortcut like I do with my other pools, but still have to log in ckpool almost every time.

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November 16, 2014, 04:15:50 PM
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My hashrate stabilized to correct ghs after the first 6 hours. All looks great.

I do have something for the suggestion box(or I may be doing something wrong) we need some type of cookie or something for the dashboard so I don't have to keep putting my username and password in every time I want to check my stats. I use android only(other than pi's) and made a shortcut like I do with my other pools, but still have to log in ckpool almost every time.
Yeah it's a php session timeout - on the server I've got it at the php/apache default of 24 minutes.
If you access the web page less than 24 minutes between each time, the php session in the browser should still be alive.
I see that happen all the time myself also, but don't think it's a good idea to have it much longer.

I can extend the session time to 1hr if no one has any objections, but I'm not really keen to have it much longer.

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November 16, 2014, 04:48:12 PM
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^ Oh no, if it's security related, I don't mind signing back in. 24 minutes is fine.

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November 16, 2014, 05:40:59 PM
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My hashrate stabilized to correct ghs after the first 6 hours. All looks great.

I do have something for the suggestion box(or I may be doing something wrong) we need some type of cookie or something for the dashboard so I don't have to keep putting my username and password in every time I want to check my stats. I use android only(other than pi's) and made a shortcut like I do with my other pools, but still have to log in ckpool almost every time.
Yeah it's a php session timeout - on the server I've got it at the php/apache default of 24 minutes.
If you access the web page less than 24 minutes between each time, the php session in the browser should still be alive.
I see that happen all the time myself also, but don't think it's a good idea to have it much longer.

I can extend the session time to 1hr if no one has any objections, but I'm not really keen to have it much longer.

No real reason to be so short most polls leave you logged in for 24 hours.
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November 16, 2014, 05:53:07 PM
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My hashrate stabilized to correct ghs after the first 6 hours. All looks great.

I do have something for the suggestion box(or I may be doing something wrong) we need some type of cookie or something for the dashboard so I don't have to keep putting my username and password in every time I want to check my stats. I use android only(other than pi's) and made a shortcut like I do with my other pools, but still have to log in ckpool almost every time.
Yeah it's a php session timeout - on the server I've got it at the php/apache default of 24 minutes.
If you access the web page less than 24 minutes between each time, the php session in the browser should still be alive.
I see that happen all the time myself also, but don't think it's a good idea to have it much longer.

I can extend the session time to 1hr if no one has any objections, but I'm not really keen to have it much longer.

No real reason to be so short most polls leave you logged in for 24 hours.

I use 99999 minutes on the forum..

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November 16, 2014, 06:06:07 PM
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No, it's not a forum Tongue
It's an account that gives the ability to direct large sums of money to bitcoin addresses - which of course if a payout is made it is irreversible.

Check your bank's timeout. There's a reason they don't make it very long either Smiley

I don't mind putting it up to 1hr, but certainly no more.

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November 16, 2014, 06:44:21 PM
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No, it's not a forum Tongue
It's an account that gives the ability to direct large sums of money to bitcoin addresses - which of course if a payout is made it is irreversible.

Check your bank's timeout. There's a reason they don't make it very long either Smiley

I don't mind putting it up to 1hr, but certainly no more.
kano- I exhort you, please go with your gut, instead of catering to the masses (I include myself in this group) who don't quite understand some of the intricacies and nuances that you and CK do concerning mining pools and bitcoin mining in general. This is not meant to be disrespectful to anyone in this thread who has made suggestions, I just want to remind everyone that this pool is run by the developers of cgminer, and I really don't think that there are too many people out there who have more knowledge on how to run the most efficient, secure pool, which is why I have dedicated 100% of my hashing power to this pool (when it's not being leased out on MRR, which should be rather rare now that I've increased the BTC/MH/DAY). Prior to discovering this pool within the last week, I exclusively mined with Eligius, which IMHO was probably the best option out of the "big" mining pools, up until now Smiley.
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November 16, 2014, 07:27:38 PM
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No, it's not a forum Tongue
It's an account that gives the ability to direct large sums of money to bitcoin addresses - which of course if a payout is made it is irreversible.

Check your bank's timeout. There's a reason they don't make it very long either Smiley

I don't mind putting it up to 1hr, but certainly no more.

You are correct.  I missed the implications.  We use 20 minutes where I work, and our customers complain about it all the time, but that's what we're told we have to set it to.

Thanks.

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November 16, 2014, 07:37:56 PM
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No, it's not a forum Tongue
It's an account that gives the ability to direct large sums of money to bitcoin addresses - which of course if a payout is made it is irreversible.

Check your bank's timeout. There's a reason they don't make it very long either Smiley

I don't mind putting it up to 1hr, but certainly no more.

You are correct.  I missed the implications.  We use 20 minutes where I work, and our customers complain about it all the time, but that's what we're told we have to set it to.

Thanks.

M

It would we really easy to add an option for us to pick if we want to stay logged in or not. You need a password to change the address and if someone has your password, well it doesn't really matter how long or short session ends.
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