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December 18, 2014, 12:21:59 AM
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???Automatic???...It might as well have 4 doors! Cheesy
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December 18, 2014, 12:33:57 AM
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???Automatic???...It might as well have 4 doors! Cheesy

I would rather have an automatic so I can keep my hand on the real lady sitting in the passenger seat.

Don't mind this hater!

It can have 10 doors if we get some block action.
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December 18, 2014, 01:54:45 AM
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Sorry, didn't mean to derail the thread....

Automatic because I'm a 50 year old and don't want to be tempted with a stick.  Besides, it comes off the line just fine Smiley
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December 18, 2014, 02:03:32 AM
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Sorry, didn't mean to derail the thread....

Automatic because I'm a 50 year old and don't want to be tempted with a stick.  Besides, it comes off the line just fine Smiley
Heh almost the same age here Smiley
Was always a manual - car and bike - driver until a truck took me out on a motorcycle many years ago (17).
Now I'm older and lazier and an automatic (2.5L) car is just fine Smiley
... and with that I'll finish the car discussions ...

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December 18, 2014, 02:47:00 PM
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Went to move my S3 back to this pool, and it's stopped hashing.  Red LED on constant, no mining. Sad  Can connect to the web interface fine, but it's just not doing the do.

Typical, it ran for two months pretty much solid, now it dies just before I go off on holiday.
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December 18, 2014, 07:21:52 PM
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That is what I am talking about, welcome back lightsword and thanks for the hash!!
Let's knock some blocks out.

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December 18, 2014, 09:20:05 PM
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Yeah we're over 2PH at the moment ... not sure for how long but anyway Smiley
Edit: OK it's quite variable - we'll see where it ends up ... it was 2PH for the past 3 hours but it's now dropping again.

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December 18, 2014, 09:32:26 PM
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Yeah we're over 2PH at the moment ... not sure for how long but anyway Smiley
Edit: OK it's quite variable - we'll see where it ends up ... it was 2PH for the past hour but it's now dropping again.

I was just going to ask you what was going on, we were 2.2 ph for awhile there. Antminer was even back for awhile.

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December 18, 2014, 09:35:37 PM
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Yeah we're over 2PH at the moment ... not sure for how long but anyway Smiley
Edit: OK it's quite variable - we'll see where it ends up ... it was 2PH for the past hour but it's now dropping again.

I was just going to ask you what was going on, we were 2.2 ph for awhile there. Antminer was even back for awhile.
Yeah I only woke up shortly before my post - he's rearranging his setup - it may be a little while yet until it's all sorted.

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December 19, 2014, 12:19:26 AM
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Yeah we're over 2PH at the moment ... not sure for how long but anyway Smiley
Edit: OK it's quite variable - we'll see where it ends up ... it was 2PH for the past hour but it's now dropping again.

I was just going to ask you what was going on, we were 2.2 ph for awhile there. Antminer was even back for awhile.
Yeah I only woke up shortly before my post - he's rearranging his setup - it may be a little while yet until it's all sorted.

is lightsword dropping in and out?
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December 19, 2014, 02:48:01 AM
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Yeah we're over 2PH at the moment ... not sure for how long but anyway Smiley
Edit: OK it's quite variable - we'll see where it ends up ... it was 2PH for the past hour but it's now dropping again.

I was just going to ask you what was going on, we were 2.2 ph for awhile there. Antminer was even back for awhile.
Yeah I only woke up shortly before my post - he's rearranging his setup - it may be a little while yet until it's all sorted.

is lightsword dropping in and out?
Seems it was temporary.

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December 19, 2014, 03:04:08 AM
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Yeah we're over 2PH at the moment ... not sure for how long but anyway Smiley
Edit: OK it's quite variable - we'll see where it ends up ... it was 2PH for the past hour but it's now dropping again.

I was just going to ask you what was going on, we were 2.2 ph for awhile there. Antminer was even back for awhile.
Yeah I only woke up shortly before my post - he's rearranging his setup - it may be a little while yet until it's all sorted.

is lightsword dropping in and out?
Seems it was temporary.

Another pool that sells out your hash dropped my miners earlier so I bet the same thing happened to him and his miner most likely failed over back to this pool. Prices are dropping fast and I would think a lot of miners will be moving back to BTC mining pools soon.
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December 19, 2014, 03:32:21 AM
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Yeah we're over 2PH at the moment ... not sure for how long but anyway Smiley
Edit: OK it's quite variable - we'll see where it ends up ... it was 2PH for the past hour but it's now dropping again.

I was just going to ask you what was going on, we were 2.2 ph for awhile there. Antminer was even back for awhile.
Yeah I only woke up shortly before my post - he's rearranging his setup - it may be a little while yet until it's all sorted.

is lightsword dropping in and out?

I don't know but it is wreaking havoc on my projected payout. Don't want to bitch but my payout is down 30% plus from what it was this morning and we are back down to 164 TH. I appreciate the extra hash but need to build in some safe guards to prevent this hopping in and out.

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December 19, 2014, 04:02:01 AM
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Yeah we're over 2PH at the moment ... not sure for how long but anyway Smiley
Edit: OK it's quite variable - we'll see where it ends up ... it was 2PH for the past hour but it's now dropping again.

I was just going to ask you what was going on, we were 2.2 ph for awhile there. Antminer was even back for awhile.
Yeah I only woke up shortly before my post - he's rearranging his setup - it may be a little while yet until it's all sorted.

is lightsword dropping in and out?

I don't know but it is wreaking havoc on my projected payout. Don't want to bitch but my payout is down 30% plus from what it was this morning and we are back down to 164 TH. I appreciate the extra hash but need to build in some safe guards to prevent this hopping in and out.

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December 19, 2014, 04:12:09 AM
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I don't know but it is wreaking havoc on my projected payout. Don't want to bitch but my payout is down 30% plus from what it was this morning and we are back down to 164 TH. I appreciate the extra hash but need to build in some safe guards to prevent this hopping in and out.
Hopping is irrelevant with a PPLNS pool which this pool uses. I suggest you research pool pay schemes and the influence of hopping on them.

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December 19, 2014, 05:24:20 AM
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Yeah we're over 2PH at the moment ... not sure for how long but anyway Smiley
Edit: OK it's quite variable - we'll see where it ends up ... it was 2PH for the past hour but it's now dropping again.

I was just going to ask you what was going on, we were 2.2 ph for awhile there. Antminer was even back for awhile.
Yeah I only woke up shortly before my post - he's rearranging his setup - it may be a little while yet until it's all sorted.

is lightsword dropping in and out?
Seems it was temporary.
... and he's back in again.
Yep up and down and up and down and ... Smiley

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December 19, 2014, 06:00:48 AM
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Indeed hopping on may benefit those who have been with the pool not necessarly the person with large hash power who jumps on if a block is solved.


See here:

Bitcoin: PPLNS vs PPS

http://www.etcwiki.org/wiki/Bitcoin:_PPLNS_vs_PPS

Nice Visual that compares pool payout methods.

http://eligius.st/~luke-jr/samples/800MH-3/



I don't know but it is wreaking havoc on my projected payout. Don't want to bitch but my payout is down 30% plus from what it was this morning and we are back down to 164 TH. I appreciate the extra hash but need to build in some safe guards to prevent this hopping in and out.
Hopping is irrelevant with a PPLNS pool which this pool uses. I suggest you research pool pay schemes and the influence of hopping on them.

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December 19, 2014, 06:09:43 AM
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Indeed hopping on may benefit those who have been with the pool not necessarly the person with large hash power who jumps on if a block is solved.


See here:

Bitcoin: PPLNS vs PPS

http://www.etcwiki.org/wiki/Bitcoin:_PPLNS_vs_PPS

Nice Visual that compares pool payout methods.

http://eligius.st/~luke-jr/samples/800MH-3/



I don't know but it is wreaking havoc on my projected payout. Don't want to bitch but my payout is down 30% plus from what it was this morning and we are back down to 164 TH. I appreciate the extra hash but need to build in some safe guards to prevent this hopping in and out.
Hopping is irrelevant with a PPLNS pool which this pool uses. I suggest you research pool pay schemes and the influence of hopping on them.

RE: Nice Visual that compares pool payout methods.

Those were the days. 800MH could do 5BTC in 12 days.

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December 19, 2014, 07:13:38 AM
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Yeah except that graph is yet again another graph that doesn't understand or consider statistics.

Like for example, the pool that graph comes from has only had only 90% of expected luck over the last month.
So anyone mining there has been paid only something like 90% of PPS, which ... oddly enough ... doesn't match that graph either Smiley

Anyone using a historical hash rate to decide on a pools performance, needs to include:
the block luck if the time period is not long
explain why luck isn't 100% if the time period is long

Long means many months at 1% of the network and probably a couple of months at 10% of the network.

Let me expand on that ...
Ignoring luck, a PPLNS pool that charges a 0.9% fee will expect to average 99.1% of PPS ...
If it isn't, after removing luck from the calculation, then there's something wrong with the pool software, or the miner has been hopping off the pool during the PPLNS payout times.

A PPS pool with a 4% fee will expect to averate 96% of PPS always

There have been a few people running pool comparisons lately and I've yet to see one of them that understands statistics ...
They have all been based on the Gamber's Fallacy: historical luck will match future luck.
But luck is only a measure of the past, and applying it to the future means you don't understand what luck is.

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December 19, 2014, 07:21:28 AM
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I think Eleuthria gets it but most people don't hear it when he says the very same things.
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