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January 07, 2016, 10:36:12 PM |
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kano actually has a calculator published but I can't find the link it's buried in cgminer thread and this one too. Maybe kano could add a link to it in post 1 of this thread.
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January 07, 2016, 10:56:21 PM |
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kano actually has a calculator published but I can't find the link it's buried in cgminer thread and this one too. Maybe kano could add a link to it in post 1 of this thread.
That will be great. How do you guys fare on the Kano pool vs mining calculators? |
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January 07, 2016, 11:07:31 PM
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kano actually has a calculator published but I can't find the link it's buried in cgminer thread and this one too. Maybe kano could add a link to it in post 1 of this thread.
That will be great. How do you guys fare on the Kano pool vs mining calculators? Kano gives you about 100% , that is good and it is honest. The calculators are mostly wrong, and the longer prediction the more wrong. We bought 6 copys of S7 1 month ago just for fun, i had not done it today. We got free electricity, i don´t even want to know what that cost. The problem for us was that the calculators had done to happy calculations, and it´s a big deal when a calculated 9% is 11% in reality. Yes, we where stupid - but we have done some mining before some years ago and we did not care so much either. But, we bought them from Europe, price was quite high. Can you buy them cheaper like directly from Bitmaintech now the Batch8 or Batch9 then i think you will have the money back in 6 month or a little more. |
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kano (OP)
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January 07, 2016, 11:14:05 PM |
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kano actually has a calculator published but I can't find the link it's buried in cgminer thread and this one too. Maybe kano could add a link to it in post 1 of this thread.
http://tradebtc.net/bitcalc.phpReasonably simple, but also allows you to take guesses at how diff may change and get a reasonable, longer than 1 week, estimate. At the bottom it allows you to estimate you electricity cost also and show the overall result. It also puts the current kano.is pool hash rate in there when you first view the page  |
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January 07, 2016, 11:16:27 PM |
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I used my Rewards thing on http://ckpoolmonitor.zachmonroe.com to get: 2015-12-08 to 2016-01-07 Average Hashrate = 16.243 TH/s Total BTC = 3.04847623 I used https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/calculatorI put in : Difficulty Increment = 20% Electricity Cost = 0 Pool Fee = 0.9% Hashrate = 16.243 TH/s Hardware Cost = 0 Power = 0 Start Date = -30 Total BTC as of Today = 2.973 Tomorrow = 3.051 So I would say that is pretty close. |
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January 07, 2016, 11:38:32 PM |
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I like it  |
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gnu123
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January 07, 2016, 11:47:21 PM |
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It was good ! Almost all miners in list cost more electricity to run than what they produce in worth of BTC. Even my own S7 takes about 50% of the profit in electricity cost. |
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January 07, 2016, 11:53:49 PM |
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play around with setting like doubling and halving bitcoin value. i weakly justify my S5 with solar, fun and bitcoin support. mainly solar to bitcoin  , when dealing with WAF. |
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gnu123
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January 07, 2016, 11:59:28 PM |
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I feel somewhat traumatized since I started to mine here and already suffered through two blocks of about 250%, that said, Isn't it a good timesaving idea to write out the duration for every finished block on the Pool/Blocks page ?
I know I can calculate it myself, but with all this trauma after those devilblocks it´s not that easy.
... has a very good "recent blocks" page :
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Startingtime just as kano but also the Duration which I think is good.
Their "recent blocks" page is terrible IMO. It hides all the information about stale/orphan/rejected blocks that are very important to know about with any pool. It has no useful statistical analysis of the pool's performance. If you look on there you'll see only luck%, no diff% ... and in the past week there's 35.9%, 32.4%, 23.4%, 34.3% luck% Do those numbers matter? No idea, you'd have to convert them to useful data and then maybe do something useful like a CDF[Erl] on them. Firstly, looking at those numbers you should actually wonder is everything ok there? ... what they mean in Diff% is: 278%, 308%, 427%, 291% ... Their CDF[Erl] for the last 25 blocks is 0.878721941 ... pretty high ... I wonder what that is for larger block counts ... they don't want you know ... -- Anyway, back to the kano.is page The time length of a single block is not really relevant since it is directly dependent upon the pool's hash rate. Go way down the bottom to the first blocks and that will show a good example. Block #2 took over 12 days, but everyone who mined that full block and got paid by that block got a bit over 12 days worth of pay, it's easy to see that coz the Diff% is less than 100% i.e. it took less shares than expected. Block #3 took 1 day 17hrs, but that one was even better since the number that matters, Diff%, was only 42% and that means that eveyone mining for that 1 day 17hrs got paid more than double since less than half the work needed was sent. The Diff% is actually the number that is used in all valid statistical calculations for blocks for all pools. The CDF[Erl] is actually the most relevant number there on the page. So, since the blocks page is short on space, there's really not a lot of space to throw in yet another field. I'll add it onto my "galaxy far far away" todo list Ok, when you explain and put it that way, technically you are right. But for me it was not so much about what´s right in this case, more about suffering and feeling.  Wanted to easily be able to look back at a devilblock and remember how it did feel, just not to get spoiled and forget about it But what you write about stale, orphan and rejected is very interesting. Where can i learn much more about that ? I guess that´s quite important if not all poolowners are honest. |
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wikkidtt
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January 08, 2016, 12:11:29 AM |
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Need more blocks 3 a day I'll be happy
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January 08, 2016, 12:26:28 AM |
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Anyone watching the price of BTC today? Bit of a rally going on, and that's making us more profitable!
Time for a Block-tacular!
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I don't believe in superstition because it's bad luck: 13thF1oor6CAwyzyxXPNnRvu3nhhYeqZdc
These aren't the Droids you're looking for: S5 & S7 (Sold), R4B2, R4B4 (RIP), 2x S9 obsolete, 2xS15-28, S17-56, S17-70
Pushing a whopping 1/5 PH! Oh The SPEED!!!
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January 08, 2016, 12:55:28 AM |
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10.3PH................WOWOWOWOWWOWO, must be my new S7 that put us over the top. YUP!
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Just "Mining" my own business.
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January 08, 2016, 01:19:07 AM |
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10.3PH................WOWOWOWOWWOWO, must be my new S7 that put us over the top. YUP!
You said that and it dropped to 8.2ph |
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January 08, 2016, 01:26:16 AM |
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10.3PH................WOWOWOWOWWOWO, must be my new S7 that put us over the top. YUP!
You said that and it dropped to 8.2ph Seems to be a bug with the stats right now? What sticks out to me is the drop to 8.2, and especially luckyant at an unwavering 2,725.00THs is odd. Should be fluctuating. |
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kano (OP)
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January 08, 2016, 01:28:11 AM |
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Payout 392129 sent fcea54009a18b3e4aa5d318705ab109a201d77655612d33d4a4c144b4db2b769 and confirmed -- 10.3PH................WOWOWOWOWWOWO, must be my new S7 that put us over the top. YUP!
You said that and it dropped to 8.2ph That's common, it's a failover from somewhere I know where, while they restart/update their ckpool code. It got over 12PH the other day but yeah it drops all out again soon enough. |
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January 08, 2016, 01:28:26 AM |
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Missing some big players including Canaan. That's almost 1PH just Canaan alone, plus I just turn off 1 of my S3. That definitely put a huge dent into the Hashing power of the pool. =)
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kano (OP)
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January 08, 2016, 01:28:54 AM |
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10.3PH................WOWOWOWOWWOWO, must be my new S7 that put us over the top. YUP!
You said that and it dropped to 8.2ph Seems to be a bug with the stats right now? What sticks out to me is the drop to 8.2, and especially luckyant at an unwavering 2,725.00THs is odd. Should be fluctuating. stats don't drop instantly. They take some time to go back to zero. |
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January 08, 2016, 01:39:30 AM |
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Sold 12 Modded S3+ on Amazon and purchased 2 S7's batch 9 and put a little money in the bank
Don't like selling on Amazon but can get $190 per unit compared to $80-100 on here. Plus I just bought coin with the money.
So another 9.4th soon enough. Migh have to buy another 2. Like to wait on my purchases as Christmas and buying a new house is killing my funds
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January 08, 2016, 01:51:25 AM |
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What mod did you do? That's some very nice coins for S3+. All mine are S3+ plus I'm seeing them selling on Ebay for $120 shipped now.
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