Bitcoin Forum
May 04, 2024, 07:51:06 AM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 27.0 [Torrent]
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Pages: « 1 ... 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 [330] 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 ... 2248 »
  Print  
Author Topic: KanoPool since 2014 🐈 - PPLNS and Solo 0.5% fee - Worldwide - 2435 blocks  (Read 5350145 times)
This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic. (50 posts by 3+ users deleted.)
kano (OP)
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 4480
Merit: 1800


Linux since 1997 RedHat 4


View Profile
December 25, 2015, 07:15:09 AM
 #6581

Merry Christmas everyone!

Since mining with kano.is, I have decided in investing 6 more s7s and with my current 4 x S7s I am seeing the benefits and I think I am really happy here.

I have newbie question and would like to confirm my logic...

Let's say, I have 10 x S7 now mining x BTCs per period of time

Come 07-19-2016 - BTC reward block halving...

Would I see only 50% of x BTC per period of time?

To get back the 100% x BTC per period of time, would I then need 2 x (10 x S7) = 20 x S7s?

Why I am asking is a fellow miner was comparing maximum pool payout between kano.is and the rest, and advised me to not to put all my S7s "in one basket" because his logic was "every miner should try to get maximum BTC payout from now to July 19th, 2016" before its not worth mining anymore (ie. rewards are less than expense, electricity etc). He also advised me not to chase that dream of getting more s7s after July 19th because the difficulty level at that stage will be too high.

Comments?

I am sorry if I am posting an awkward question here, but I would like to hear expert views from the forum.
If you are expecting to get an ROI on hardware greater than cost and running expenses, then more hardware will mean better ROI.
If you are expecting to get a negative total ROI then more hardware means more loss.

But that's up to you to calculate based on expected return, your own costs and the cost of the hardware - and any resale value it 'might' have later.

One point to note is that there is no exact date when bitcoin will hit block 420,000. Anyone saying a date is just estimating it.

Once bitcoin reaches block 420,000, the coinbase per block will be half, 12.5BTC
The transaction fees may be the same, higher or lower.
By then the difficulty per block will of course be expected to be higher.
How much higher? No body knows for sure.

No answers as such, since there are 4 unknowns:
1) When block 420,000 will be
2) Network difficulty between now and then
3) Pool Luck between now and then
and
4) The price of bitcoin then

--

Mining at multiple pool will reduce your variance
i.e. expect to make a "below expected reward" closer up to expected and ...
expect to make an "above expected reward" closer down to expected

Luck is fickle so it may make it better or worse, it's just expected to reduce variance.

If you mine at 2 pools with different proven rewards, then the expected result is to end up between the two pools.

The trick is finding another pool with a good track record meeting their expected reward.
... though if you want to discuss any particular other pools, do that at the other pools Smiley

Pool: https://kano.is - low 0.5% fee PPLNS 3 Days - Most reliable Solo with ONLY 0.5% fee   Bitcointalk thread: Forum
Discord support invite at https://kano.is/ Majority developer of the ckpool code - k for kano
The ONLY active original developer of cgminer. Original master git: https://github.com/kanoi/cgminer
Transactions must be included in a block to be properly completed. When you send a transaction, it is broadcast to miners. Miners can then optionally include it in their next blocks. Miners will be more inclined to include your transaction if it has a higher transaction fee.
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction.
1714809066
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1714809066

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1714809066
Reply with quote  #2

1714809066
Report to moderator
1714809066
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1714809066

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1714809066
Reply with quote  #2

1714809066
Report to moderator
dmwardjr
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1302
Merit: 1318


Technical Analyst/Trader


View Profile
December 25, 2015, 08:29:59 AM
 #6582

Merry Christmas to all.

Finally, got my son's Santa Clause gifts under the tree.  I'm exhausted.  We have a big day tomorrow with family.

I hope everyone here has a great day spending time with family and friends.

David

Follow me on Trading View for excellent signals in Bitcoin/US dollar - Bitstamp - https://www.tradingview.com/u/WyckoffMode/.  You can follow me on Twitter at https://twitter.com/ModeWyckoff My YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8IbhpQwrTD6BozJPWnyAHA  My Discord Invite Link: https://discord.com/invite/3EJYTytaTT  My Website is in LIVE BETA: https://wyckoffmode.com/
citronick
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1834
Merit: 1080


---- winter*juvia -----


View Profile
December 25, 2015, 08:51:44 AM
 #6583

Merry Christmas everyone!
...
If you are expecting to get an ROI on hardware greater than cost and running expenses, then more hardware will mean better ROI.
If you are expecting to get a negative total ROI then more hardware means more loss.

But that's up to you to calculate based on expected return, your own costs and the cost of the hardware - and any resale value it 'might' have later.

One point to note is that there is no exact date when bitcoin will hit block 420,000. Anyone saying a date is just estimating it.

Once bitcoin reaches block 420,000, the coinbase per block will be half, 12.5BTC
The transaction fees may be the same, higher or lower.
By then the difficulty per block will of course be expected to be higher.
How much higher? No body knows for sure.

No answers as such, since there are 4 unknowns:
1) When block 420,000 will be
2) Network difficulty between now and then
3) Pool Luck between now and then
and
4) The price of bitcoin then

--

Mining at multiple pool will reduce your variance
i.e. expect to make a "below expected reward" closer up to expected and ...
expect to make an "above expected reward" closer down to expected

Luck is fickle so it may make it better or worse, it's just expected to reduce variance.

If you mine at 2 pools with different proven rewards, then the expected result is to end up between the two pools.

The trick is finding another pool with a good track record meeting their expected reward.
... though if you want to discuss any particular other pools, do that at the other pools Smiley

Thanks Kano for giving me a different angle to the matter and the 4 unknowns above is enough for me to hang on to kano.is!

Now where is that elusive Chirstmas Day block(s)?!

If I provided you good and useful info or just a smile to your day, consider sending me merit points to further validate this Bitcointalk account ~ useful for future account recovery...
baazju
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 98
Merit: 10


View Profile
December 25, 2015, 02:57:10 PM
 #6584

Hey guys new here. Have an S7 on the way (first week of January should be hopefully). Pretty excited to start hashing, just sold off my USB miners so a bit bored waiting for the S7 to come in. Have a lowly 3GH/s Avalon Nano running right now Wink

Beware of scammers.
os2sam
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3578
Merit: 1090


Think for yourself


View Profile
December 25, 2015, 03:08:02 PM
 #6585

Hey guys new here. Have an S7 on the way (first week of January should be hopefully). Pretty excited to start hashing, just sold off my USB miners so a bit bored waiting for the S7 to come in. Have a lowly 3GH/s Avalon Nano running right now Wink

Well, get to mining!

Merry Christmas.

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?
vh
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 699
Merit: 666


View Profile
December 25, 2015, 03:11:12 PM
 #6586

that last christmas block may have taken the site down with it.    miner still humming along though.

d57heinz
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1453
Merit: 1011


Bitcoin Talks Bullshit Walks


View Profile
December 25, 2015, 03:13:02 PM
 #6587

that last christmas block may have taken the site down with it.    miner still humming along though.

Ok good i thought it was just me.. Miners still chuggin along tho..

http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/kano.is

edit nvm  miners just failed over back to slush Undecided

best Regards
d57heinz

As in nature, all is ebb and tide, all is wave motion, so it seems that in all branches of industry, alternating currents - electric wave motion - will have the sway. ~Nikola Tesla~
torepia
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 140
Merit: 100


View Profile
December 25, 2015, 03:14:24 PM
 #6588

that last christmas block may have taken the site down with it.    miner still humming along though.

Ok good i thought it was just me.. Miners still chuggin along tho..

http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/kano.is

eidt nvm  miners just failed over back to slush Undecided

best Regards
d57heinz

The easier version: http://isup.me/kano.is  Tongue
edonkey
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1150
Merit: 1004



View Profile
December 25, 2015, 03:14:53 PM
 #6589

It's not just the web interface that's down. My miners indicate that kano.is is dead and have switched to a backup pool.

I hope this isn't a Christmas DDOS...

Was I helpful?   BTC: 3G1Ubof5u8K9iJkM8We2f3amYZgGVdvpHr
sloopy
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 700
Merit: 501


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=905210.msg


View Profile
December 25, 2015, 03:18:31 PM
 #6590

Merry Christmas to all.

Finally, got my son's Santa Clause gifts under the tree.  I'm exhausted.  We have a big day tomorrow with family.

I hope everyone here has a great day spending time with family and friends.

David
Merry Christmas to you and your family David. I stayed up all night the night before finishing the shopping and wrapping presents. The kids woke up just as I was finishing the last one. Since they are almost adults now it isn't as though I hide much from them except the contents so... I won. Smiley
Of course this morning they are acting like 6 and 9 year olds Smiley

Merry Christmas to everyone!
I hope we all get a block in our stockings.

Transaction fees go to the pools and the pools decide to pay them to the miners. Anything else, including off-chain solutions are stealing and not the way Bitcoin was intended to function.
Make the block size set by the pool. Pool = miners and they get the choice.
d57heinz
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1453
Merit: 1011


Bitcoin Talks Bullshit Walks


View Profile
December 25, 2015, 03:19:14 PM
 #6591

It's not just the web interface that's down. My miners indicate that kano.is is dead and have switched to a backup pool.

I hope this isn't a Christmas DDOS...

whats odd is it happened right after the block was created.. I just checked the site prior at like 188% cdf and it was working alright.. maybe a config change kano just did isnt happy:)

Best regards
d57heinz


that last christmas block may have taken the site down with it.    miner still humming along though.

Ok good i thought it was just me.. Miners still chuggin along tho..

http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/kano.is

eidt nvm  miners just failed over back to slush Undecided

best Regards
d57heinz

The easier version: http://isup.me/kano.is  Tongue

Thanks for that.. Much easier to type in google  Grin
Best regards
d57heinz

As in nature, all is ebb and tide, all is wave motion, so it seems that in all branches of industry, alternating currents - electric wave motion - will have the sway. ~Nikola Tesla~
sky_g
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 167
Merit: 100


View Profile
December 25, 2015, 03:20:21 PM
 #6592

It's not just the web interface that's down. My miners indicate that kano.is is dead and have switched to a backup pool.

I hope this isn't a Christmas DDOS...


For last 4 hrs it is showing no shares has been submitted i am not sure what is wrong ?

Is Kano interface is down or Pool is down
sloopy
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 700
Merit: 501


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=905210.msg


View Profile
December 25, 2015, 03:21:53 PM
 #6593

It's not just the web interface that's down. My miners indicate that kano.is is dead and have switched to a backup pool.

I hope this isn't a Christmas DDOS...
ck solo pool down as well.

With all of the alarms they have set I have zero doubts that they are jumping on the issue.

stratum8080.kano.is is up <- my apologies, the location I checked showed it as up, but had not refreshed.

Transaction fees go to the pools and the pools decide to pay them to the miners. Anything else, including off-chain solutions are stealing and not the way Bitcoin was intended to function.
Make the block size set by the pool. Pool = miners and they get the choice.
kano (OP)
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 4480
Merit: 1800


Linux since 1997 RedHat 4


View Profile
December 25, 2015, 03:23:35 PM
 #6594

Pool has been down since 3 minutes after we got the block.
Block is all ok.
Appears to be a ddos though not a very large one from looking at the network graph.
I'm awaiting a response from the data centre.

Pool: https://kano.is - low 0.5% fee PPLNS 3 Days - Most reliable Solo with ONLY 0.5% fee   Bitcointalk thread: Forum
Discord support invite at https://kano.is/ Majority developer of the ckpool code - k for kano
The ONLY active original developer of cgminer. Original master git: https://github.com/kanoi/cgminer
sky_g
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 167
Merit: 100


View Profile
December 25, 2015, 03:26:58 PM
 #6595

Pool has been down since 3 minutes after we got the block.
Block is all ok.
Appears to be a ddos though not a very large one from looking at the network graph.
I'm awaiting a response from the data centre.

Kano - Last 4 hrs your web interface shows no share has been submitted but the person with i am holding S7 thinks all is OK on his side.

I am not sure what who is correct here ?
sloopy
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 700
Merit: 501


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=905210.msg


View Profile
December 25, 2015, 03:34:23 PM
 #6596

Pool has been down since 3 minutes after we got the block.
Block is all ok.
Appears to be a ddos though not a very large one from looking at the network graph.
I'm awaiting a response from the data centre.

It is a good thing that negative Christmas Wishes do not come true or there would be some poor, lonely, soul, slowly bursting into flames at their PC right now over a Denial of Service attack on our pool.

Can they track it to the source since it is small any different than say a large Denial?

Transaction fees go to the pools and the pools decide to pay them to the miners. Anything else, including off-chain solutions are stealing and not the way Bitcoin was intended to function.
Make the block size set by the pool. Pool = miners and they get the choice.
VRobb
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 1610
Merit: 538

I'm in BTC XTC


View Profile
December 25, 2015, 03:37:55 PM
 #6597

I'm running on the solo pool right now.  Seems it just came up.

Nope, just died again

I don't believe in superstition because it's bad luck: 13thF1oor6CAwyzyxXPNnRvu3nhhYeqZdc
These aren't the Droids you're looking for: S5 & S7 (Sold), R4B2, R4B4 (RIP), 2x S9 obsolete, 2xS15-28, S17-56, S17-70
Pushing a whopping 1/5 PH!  Oh The SPEED!!!
d57heinz
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1453
Merit: 1011


Bitcoin Talks Bullshit Walks


View Profile
December 25, 2015, 03:39:12 PM
 #6598

Pool has been down since 3 minutes after we got the block.
Block is all ok.
Appears to be a ddos though not a very large one from looking at the network graph.
I'm awaiting a response from the data centre.

I hope this isnt backlash from the comment you made about bip 100 cpl days ago:Smiley  Lots of brats in this community unfortunately Undecided

Best Regards
d57heinz

As in nature, all is ebb and tide, all is wave motion, so it seems that in all branches of industry, alternating currents - electric wave motion - will have the sway. ~Nikola Tesla~
d57heinz
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1453
Merit: 1011


Bitcoin Talks Bullshit Walks


View Profile
December 25, 2015, 03:44:22 PM
 #6599

how crazy now solo ck just found a block.. Maybe santa is updating our server Grin

EDIT also noticed that they updated the bitcoind to accept a bit larger blocks.. thanks for that Kano

Best Regards
d57heinz

As in nature, all is ebb and tide, all is wave motion, so it seems that in all branches of industry, alternating currents - electric wave motion - will have the sway. ~Nikola Tesla~
clgrissom3
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1722
Merit: 1032


Carl, aka Sonny :)


View Profile
December 25, 2015, 03:44:34 PM
 #6600

The Solo CKPool hit a block about 4 minutes ago...something is working right there.
Pages: « 1 ... 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 [330] 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 ... 2248 »
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!