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October 09, 2014, 02:18:16 AM
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In reply to a concerned citizen gentleman,

UBERcoin ANNouncement
Launching the latest and last cryptomoney

Total emission: 1337 coins.

I have forked UBERcoin to fix your category errors and take into account the 666/Pi^100 Great Collapsing Hrung problem as predicted by Martin Armstrong.

UBERcoin's Hrung will inevitably collapse due to reasons that I cannot explain but you must believe because I am the authority because I once made a popular web page before the web was popular.

VaporCoin introduces the revolutionary and derivative concept of RingShuffle

RingShuffle uses three blockchains.  The outer application layer is the same as any CN coin.  The two-ply inner transportation system is used by nodes to accomplish both on and off chain mixing.  The middle layer is a mini-blockchain account tree that tracks the balance of mixing daemons.  Mixing daemons are ephemeral and each Vapor node spawns random number of them with random lifespans.  Mixing daemons use the inner layer's blockchain to shuffle coins using one-time-ring-signatures. 

This arrangement keeps bloat off off the permanent user-facing blockchain and restricts transaction noise (AKA helpful entropy) to temporary prunable ring sigs, while the minichain-based global account tree keeps transport daemons synchronized and mitigates the threat of hostile/dishonest Sybil nodes.

RingShuffle = (CN blockchain ((Miniblockchain(prunable CN blockchain)))

We are already in discussion with SuperNet, and are now taking pre-orders for our Stargoat+ FPGASIC, which is the only hardware capable of mining VaporCoins .


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October 09, 2014, 02:19:59 AM
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In reply to a concerned citizen gentleman,

UBERcoin ANNouncement
Launching the latest and last cryptomoney

Total emission: 1337 coins.

I have forked UBERcoin to fix your category errors and take into account the 666/Pi^100 Great Collapsing Hrung problem as predicted by Martin Armstrong.

UBERcoin's Hrung will inevitably collapse due to reasons that I cannot explain but you must believe because I am the authority because I once made a popular web page before the web was popular.

VaporCoin introduces the revolutionary and derivative concept of RingShuffle

RingShuffle uses three blockchains.  The outer application layer is the same as any CN coin.  The two-ply inner transportation system is used by nodes to accomplish both on and off chain mixing.  The middle layer is a mini-blockchain account tree that tracks the balance of mixing daemons.  Mixing daemons are ephemeral and each Vapor node spawns random number of them with random lifespans.  Mixing daemons use the inner layer's blockchain to shuffle coins using one-time-ring-signatures. 

This arrangement keeps bloat off off the permanent user-facing blockchain and restricts transaction noise (AKA helpful entropy) to temporary prunable ring sigs, while the minichain-based global account tree keeps transport daemons synchronized and mitigates the threat of hostile/dishonest Sybil nodes.

RingShuffle = (CN blockchain ((Miniblockchain(prunable CN blockchain)))

We are already in discussion with SuperNet, and are now taking pre-orders for our Stargoat+ FPGASIC, which is the only hardware capable of mining VaporCoins .

do you own the annoymint account   Cheesy
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October 09, 2014, 02:40:53 AM
Last edit: October 09, 2014, 02:55:48 AM by YouWillBeProvenWrong
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smooth has a point and I do too. Bottom line is we don't know if CN rings are orthogonal to off chain factors. I doubt it. Maybe smooth is more confident they are.

Are we contented with that statement of a compromise?

Can I exit stage left now?

Edit: my experience with trying to design a computer language and semantic model for modularity taught me that chaos (entropy) can not be cordoned. Thus I would be dumbfounded (my understanding of the universe would crumble) if CN rings were entirely orthogonal to offchain de-anonymization. My model of chaos is the only things that are 100% orthogonal are those which never interact, i.e. don't exist.
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October 09, 2014, 02:52:35 AM
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do you own the annoymint account   Cheesy

Stop forcing me unscramble my password with a quantum computer from the future just to respond to such provocations.

VaporCoin shunts possibly incriminating information from the user/application level outer blockchain to an inner temporary hybrid account tree which uses a middle data layer facilitated by a miniblockchain account tree combined with an innermost Cryptonote transport layer.  Thus only clean data is preserved in the outer chain while the noisy cleansing process is restricted to temporary mechanisms.

To be clear: RingShuffle = {SUPERnet hype layer [(CN application layer (MBC data layer|CN transport layer))]}.


Now I must go degrade my already precarious health by eating a dozen rotten duck fetuses, so I can further my Munchhausen syndrome driven attention whoring with more illnesses to publicly complain about.

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October 09, 2014, 02:57:58 AM
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How can we not? Lol.  Cry

Oh yeah I remember, the Ignore button.

Done.

(some here are so childish. I remember 5 year olds throwing sand in the sand box.)
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October 09, 2014, 02:59:45 AM
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Oh yeah I remember, the Ignore button.

Done.


LOOK AT ME!!!!  I'M USING THE IGNORE BUTTON!!! ISN'T THAT SPECIAL???


LOOK AT ME!!!!  I'M USING THE IGNORE BUTTON!!! ISN'T THAT SPECIAL???


LOOK AT ME!!!!  I'M USING THE IGNORE BUTTON!!! ISN'T THAT SPECIAL???


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October 09, 2014, 03:04:02 AM
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Because of Bluemeanie1's  (Moneroman88) involvement in Monero, I am pulling out.  I thought the Monero community had higher standards than to associate with thieves.

There ain't no Revolution like a NEMolution.  The only solution is Bitcoin's dissolution! NEM!
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October 09, 2014, 03:04:59 AM
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Did somebody say post something since my prior post?

Nananana. Yo motha yo phadr yo ankul yo.

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October 09, 2014, 03:07:02 AM
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Because of Bluemeanie1's  (Moneroman88) involvement in Monero, I am pulling out.  I thought the Monero community had higher standards than to associate with thieves.



I am quite puzzled by him and his involvement in Monero.  However I think his moneroman88 had something to do with jl777.  Maybe he was trying to draw jl777 name out of the shadows?  Or maybe create drama to keep the spotlight off him since he stole all those nxt?
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October 09, 2014, 03:11:31 AM
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Nananana. Yo motha yo phadr yo ankul yo.



I knew you would be jealous of VaporCoin's innovation, because my brilliant RingShuffle concept makes your UBERcoin obsolete trash in the dump of history.


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October 09, 2014, 03:13:08 AM
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really getting tired of the trolling around here  Roll Eyes
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October 09, 2014, 03:20:13 AM
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Because of Bluemeanie1's  (Moneroman88) involvement in Monero, I am pulling out.  I thought the Monero community had higher standards than to associate with thieves.

Because of the lunar eclipse tomorrow night I'm switching projects from Monero to Darknote. Please join my new project on our official thread.
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Because of Bluemeanie1's  (Moneroman88) involvement in Monero, I am pulling out.  I thought the Monero community had higher standards than to associate with thieves.

Because of the lunar eclipse tomorrow night I'm switching projects from Monero to Darknote. Please join my new project on our official thread.

You are delusional, it was noic's fortune cookie that caused yourRisto'sthe moon'sSomething'sNothing's spontaneous combustion.
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October 09, 2014, 04:11:24 AM
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LOL I thought TFM had scrambled his password, I even said goodbye.

this forum is clown-town.

Thank you for saying good bye. I took all of those to heart and that I was sufficient for me (I didn't care about smoothie's taunts).

I really want to leave and I will. Smooth made a very strong point that needs an equally informed rebuttal.

Cryptonote is probably the best we've got for now of what exists for anonymity. DRK is not well specified mathematically.

I don't want to attack your investments. Please understand I want to attack the global 666 currency plan underway.

I'd also like to make some money, and I hope all of you can make some money too.

I don't think we are nemesis. All of us here in cryptoland want essentially the same idealism (well not all perhaps but many of us).

If we think of the larger pie out there, all of us can benefit more by working towards that, then tearing each other down and letting Suckerberg and Thail take all the large scale outcomes.

Peace.

(hell I don't know if I will ever get any coin released or not. Others read my posts and go work on things. For example, you can be sure the DRK folks are reading all my posts carefully and scheming. So please don't accuse me of being the only person capable of implementing CoinJoin convincingly with math proofs. I do wonder why no extremely capable developer has offered to work with me, because my designs and maths go far beyond what I've shared in public).

Sure seems like you took them to heart. Actions always speak louder.

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October 09, 2014, 04:15:27 AM
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Thank you for saying good bye. I took all of those to heart and that I was sufficient for me (I didn't care about smoothie's taunts).

I really want to leave and I will.

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Peace.

Sure seems like you took them to heart. Actions always speak louder.

Scrambling password now...
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October 09, 2014, 04:27:02 AM
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Because of Bluemeanie1's  (Moneroman88) involvement in Monero, I am pulling out.  I thought the Monero community had higher standards than to associate with thieves.

Because of the lunar eclipse tomorrow night I'm switching projects from Monero to Darknote. Please join my new project on our official thread.


jeezuz christ after all the spamming and never ending god damn drama your switching projects ? AHHAHHAHAH

oh and thanks for the heads up about the eclipse thing Smiley

and good luck with your project guy Wink

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October 09, 2014, 04:30:08 AM
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I would be dumbfounded (my understanding of the universe would crumble) if CN rings were entirely orthogonal to offchain de-anonymization. My model of chaos is the only things that are 100% orthogonal are those which never interact, i.e. don't exist.

They are not orthogonal.  Perfection cannot be achieved, good enough for the majority of use cases is a commendable goal, iterative improvement thereafter.

RingShuffle

If you put that in an OP with an ICO people would buy it.  People always buy things they don't understand when they're described with words they don't understand.

Has anybody tried making a whitepaper full of technical nonsense and running an IPO/ICO?  Seems like somebody could make money doing it!


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October 09, 2014, 04:48:55 AM
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RingShuffle

Don't give them ideas, didn't we had enough with IPO/ICO scams? Sad

VaporCoin [ANN] coming SoonTM.  Now with 50% more Bogons!


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RingShuffle

Don't give them ideas, didn't we had enough with IPO/ICO scams? Sad

VaporCoin [ANN] coming SoonTM.  Now with 50% more Bogons!

Who's doing VaporCoinDark with DarkRing tech?

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October 09, 2014, 04:56:28 AM
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Thank you for saying good bye. I took all of those to heart and that I was sufficient for me (I didn't care about smoothie's taunts).

I really want to leave and I will.

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Peace.

Sure seems like you took them to heart. Actions always speak louder.

Scrambling password now...

lol....you will be back I'm going to guess...but for now run away.  Tongue

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