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September 23, 2014, 01:53:33 PM |
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No sir, I disagree. By refusing to obey authority, you are descending to the era before the flood, when the Earth was so full of violence that God had to destroy it.
Quote me a scripture. I posit your theological interpretation is incorrect. But let me reserve my conclusion until after I read what you've got in mind. There is certainly a place for law enforcement, and when the current ones upon Earth become too corrupted, we will have to start our own. We are not there yet, so we humbly submit to the earthly authorities concerning actual crimes, while upholding our rights and freedoms.
Mark 12:17 King James Bible And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marvelled at him. In the millennial kingdom, "righteousness reigns", and it will come about by every person submitting to Jesus' authority. Unless I misunderstood your meaning of the bottom-up, I would say I have to disagree.
Bottom-up is submitting to the only King. I am nearly certain you are conflating.
"Then God said to Noah, "The end of all flesh has come before Me; for the earth is filled with violence because of them; and behold, I am about to destroy them with the earth."
"The LORD was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart.
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TheFascistMind
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September 23, 2014, 01:54:00 PM |
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He was posting that as evidence that everything was running as planned, not trying to make false claims.
It is sad that this thread has turned to be worship of me, but since the matter has surfaced: The Haikko conference for me was more like a dream. Dream that I would some day be able to own a hotel and a nice car and have Bitcoin people coming to me and we would have a nice time. Less than a year from taking that picture I already owned a manor in all respects larger than Haikko, and a car nicer than the one pictured. Even while writing this, I am having guests here starting the Bitcoin conference in these surroundings. I am a happy man because this dream has come true. Every time you post the picture I am feeling so grateful when I remember that back then I was having that as a mirage, a rented service, but now I have it in reality. With my friends. Congratulations to you sir (or friend). I pray you and your love ones are enjoying the gifts God has bestowed upon you. You worked hard for many years to reach the success you attained. |
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September 23, 2014, 01:56:20 PM |
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"Then God said to Noah, "The end of all flesh has come before Me; for the earth is filled with violence because of them; and behold, I am about to destroy them with the earth."
"The LORD was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart.
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Because they didn't follow the 10 Commandments. One of which is have no other King or idol. Read 1 Samuel 8 to know what the Lord thought of government. We get a government because we can't follow the 10 Commandments. Thus we need to build our collective hell. |
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September 23, 2014, 02:00:48 PM |
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I'm really, truly disappointed with BCX. I've been following this story the entire time, and DDOSing an exchange(Poloniex) along with extorting people(Monero devs) is illegal. This behavior is really childish and sad...
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September 23, 2014, 02:00:54 PM |
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"Then God said to Noah, "The end of all flesh has come before Me; for the earth is filled with violence because of them; and behold, I am about to destroy them with the earth."
"The LORD was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart.
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your god made a mistake ? what makes him a god then ? didn't he see that coming ? |
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September 23, 2014, 02:02:17 PM |
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I'm really, truly disappointed with BCX. I've been following this story the entire time, and DDOSing an exchange(Poloniex) along with extorting people(Monero devs) is illegal. This behavior is really childish and sad...
Don't worry he's bluffing. |
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September 23, 2014, 02:07:12 PM |
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"Then God said to Noah, "The end of all flesh has come before Me; for the earth is filled with violence because of them; and behold, I am about to destroy them with the earth."
"The LORD was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart.
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your god made a mistake ? what makes him a god then ? didn't he see that coming ? I don't neccesarily believe in it quote on quote. However, many chapters of the early bible, are symbolic. For ex: those quotes put emphasis on how much man has strayed from goodness and god, and God reinforces that belief by "grieving" and threatening to destoy them. It could be that god told Noah those things, to instill faith in Noah, that he(and family) out of everyone else on Earth was the only man to stay good and not stray from god(That faith that god was happy with Noah would reinforce Noah's faith in god as well). It has a psychological effect, think about it from that perspective. I'm really, truly disappointed with BCX. I've been following this story the entire time, and DDOSing an exchange(Poloniex) along with extorting people(Monero devs) is illegal. This behavior is really childish and sad...
Don't worry he's bluffing. I'm sorry for making assumptions so quickly @BCX. It appears that there are people impersonating him on exchanges(Poloniex). My faith in him is restored. There are so many trolls on here, even I have a somewhat challenging time determing what's fact and fiction. |
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September 23, 2014, 02:08:01 PM |
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I'm really, truly disappointed with BCX. I've been following this story the entire time, and DDOSing an exchange(Poloniex) along with extorting people(Monero devs) is illegal. This behavior is really childish and sad...
Don't worry he's bluffing. I tend to agree, why expend energy on DDosing, when you are supposed to be able to destroy its bloodflow (XMR). |
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September 23, 2014, 02:08:48 PM |
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September 23, 2014, 02:11:09 PM |
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Quoting for info: BCX, was that you in the polo chat under a different name?
For the record I did not DDOS Poloniex. If I did I promise you I would have told you. I have nothing against Poloniex and have no interest bothering them. As was pointed out by a few other posters, this is not my style. More than likely some poser that was going to try and get some coins out of you. None of this meant to be a hostile action, I just want to see if XMR can fix their holes.Anyone can knock down a coin by hitting an exchange. No fun in that. Believe what you want to believe but anybody that has been here for any time knows, that wasn't me. ~BCX~ |
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September 23, 2014, 02:11:13 PM |
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 ~BCX~ back peddling.... Yup.. expect announcement anytime now. |
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September 23, 2014, 02:12:07 PM |
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For non-Christians, replace "Lord", "Jesus" or "only King" with the "Laws of nature". So you don't think I am getting irrational here.
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September 23, 2014, 02:15:44 PM |
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For non-Christians, replace "Lord", "Jesus" or "only King" with the "Laws of nature". So you don't think I am getting irrational here.
And replace things like "He had made man" with "big bang of spontaneous generation". |
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September 23, 2014, 02:20:20 PM |
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Hashpower is very very helpful, but I understand they also have something more in mind.
Something new.
Something that may end this sort of TW threat for all nascent coins, forever, if they follow XMR's lead on it.
I don't want to say much about it yet as it is still in review, and discussion on feasibility.
Occasionally necessity is the mother of invention after all... when he father is dedicated brilliance.
Can someone please point me to a resource which explains the TW attack in more detail? I've seen ArtForz's post showing how the timestamps can be backed up in time for coins which don't overlap the retarget of difficulty. Is there still a TW vulnerability for coins that overlap their difficulty retarget windows? I understand CN's difficulty retarget throws away 20% of the "outliers". That is probably a vulnerability. |
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September 23, 2014, 02:22:56 PM |
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Hashpower is very very helpful, but I understand they also have something more in mind.
Something new.
Something that may end this sort of TW threat for all nascent coins, forever, if they follow XMR's lead on it.
I don't want to say much about it yet as it is still in review, and discussion on feasibility.
Occasionally necessity is the mother of invention after all... when he father is dedicated brilliance.
Can someone please point me to a resource which explains the TW attack in more detail? I've seen ArtForz's post showing how the timestamps can be backed up in time for coins which don't overlap the retarget of difficulty. Is there still a TW vulnerability for coins that overlap their difficulty retarget windows? I understand CN's difficulty retarget throws away 20% of the "outliers". That is probably a vulnerability. This was posted last night in the #monero-dev channel: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0By1apSyL4S49UDFIczlFc1RHem8/editAll credits go to NewLiberty |
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September 23, 2014, 02:28:57 PM |
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For non-Christians, replace "Lord", "Jesus" or "only King" with the "Laws of nature". So you don't think I am getting irrational here.
Thank you. Much appreciated. |
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September 23, 2014, 02:29:44 PM
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as far as XMR goes, even its supposed untraceability is being questioned, due to the linkability of transactions.
i am hopeful that these issues will be worked out, but i am not naive enough to believe that i can remain guy fawkes with my money just yet, nor do i do anything online or elsewhere that violates laws.
Anonymity will never be 100% absolute. It will always be probabilistic. This is why my recent contribution to CN could possibly be slightly helpful, if to any extent it can help quantify the anonymity we have with CN. Afaik Everyone sees everything PIR (e.g. Bitmessage) is the only theoretically absolute anonymity (assuming infinite recipients and all messages same size), but it can be DDOS'ed with message spam (Bitmessage being forced to abandon it now due to message spam). Zerocash is ontologically PIR if viewed from a certain representation transformation, except that the creator of the masterkey is not equal to all others. |
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September 23, 2014, 02:37:20 PM |
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I understand CN's difficulty retarget throws away 20% of the "outliers". That is probably a vulnerability.
It is both a defense and a liability (for problem recovery). |
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September 23, 2014, 02:42:56 PM |
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September 23, 2014, 02:52:31 PM |
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as far as XMR goes, even its supposed untraceability is being questioned, due to the linkability of transactions.
i am hopeful that these issues will be worked out, but i am not naive enough to believe that i can remain guy fawkes with my money just yet, nor do i do anything online or elsewhere that violates laws.
Anonymity will never be 100% absolute. It will always be probabilistic. This is why my recent contribution to CN might be important, as it can help quantify the anonymity we have with CN. Everyone sees everything PIR (e.g. Bitmessage) is the only absolute anonymity, but it can be DDOS'ed with message spam (Bitmessage being forced to abandon it now due to message spam). Zerocash is ontologically PIR if viewed from a certain representation transformation, except that the creator of the masterkey is not equal to all others. QFT 50 signatures of grey. |
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