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September 23, 2014, 07:10:22 AM
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Crytpocurrencies are still a very grey area in the United States.  Most crimes have a law that specifically states, "If ......... does......... then they will go to jail for ............ or pay ........... fine".  But as far as crypto goes, there just isn't any laws in the books about that (yet).  And if BCX is not based in the US, he definitely won't care.  

I suggest that you read 18 USC 1030.  My lawyer tells me it is 5 years federal time - more if there are confounds - but there are no mandatory minimums.  Destroying millions of dollars of value - regardless of its format - is likely to involve the maximum.

Give a man a fish and he eats for a day.  Give a man a Poisson distribution and he eats at random times independent of one another, at a constant known rate.
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September 23, 2014, 07:24:35 AM
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Why does anyone give a shit about this "FUD"?

If there is any exploit in Monero, the coin will be forked again and the hole plugged, this will all be forgotten in a week.

He'll show his cards and that's that.

BcX is just a lonely bored wanker with nothing better to do than cash in on his Hero profile super-FUD for cheap XMR.


I am not afraid of forking.
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September 23, 2014, 07:25:14 AM
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Some folks are saying he's been doxxed (Danny Maddox aka BCX). He might wanna leave the country, lest the Feds swat team his crib in San Fran

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September 23, 2014, 07:34:40 AM
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This is gettin good!!

Haven't seen threats like this in a while... But then again I stopped visiting the ANN section.

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September 23, 2014, 07:35:03 AM
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I've heard nothing about lowering the bounty, not sure where that even came from.

Only from my paranoid mind. Apologies. I've had a rough life, and have been backstabbed so many times in life...
In my mind, regardless of the outcome of simulations, the fact that you found a new attack vector has earned my 5 BTC bounty. PM me your BTC address

I thank you for the hard work, especially under the stressful conditions and so many skeptics. I always knew you would find something

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September 23, 2014, 07:37:54 AM
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This is gettin good!!

Haven't seen threats like this in a while... But then again I stopped visiting the ANN section.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=97381.0

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September 23, 2014, 08:36:01 AM
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No one believe a word you say, you piece of crap, first you said you have nothing against Monero then you said you were going to kill it, there are logs with the same nick you used when you tried to bet 500 btc against Risto, if you try anything against Polo they will go after you, whatever you kill Monero or not.
spoken like a desperate bag holder. Stomp your feet and threaten with the FBI but it's not going to save (or kill) Monero

You can't have a trust-less decentralized open source cryptocurrency and expect it to be protected by governments like it's a centralized bank or corporation. Either the coin is secure or it's not. If it's not secure it's laughable to expect the government to protect your insecure crypto.


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September 23, 2014, 09:04:14 AM
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After the Poloniex attack I have a feeling that it's over now. Considering someone just executed a cyberattack on a legit American company, it's probably going to derail this whole drama.

Either BCX made a huge error and was behind the attack and made it known publicly.

OR

Someone knew that imitating BCX and attacking Poloniex publicly would be enough to potentially get US law enforcement involved. Which would be an incredibly smart play to at least buy a good amount of time and force BCX to cool down for at least the short term.

Unless Poloniex has evidence that it was the attack was clearly not orchestrated by BCX, even if he's actually innocent(quite possible) he would still be viewed as a suspect regardless putting him under scrutiny in the short term.

I have no affiliation with Monero or any CN currencies but I think that's probably how it's going to play out. Funny thing is that it's also possible that BCX going through with the attack would actually benefit XMR in the long run, as many have speculated. So this might not actually be the best outcome for XMR. There are lots of unknowns at work here though, so this is all loose speculation at best.

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September 23, 2014, 09:08:55 AM
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if in the end to depart complaints
the FBI should not be in the protection of Monero
but it would take the case seriously
because in addition to a ddos evidence that has been BCX
"the nickname of polo has been confirmed by him a few days ago"
if it proceeds
and steal the coin wallett
then this is a robbery
and since we know who it was by his own admission
for the fbi
will find it as a game
the fbi will move because this is a robbery
not to protect monerocoin
as examples, you can take
the latest news outlet recently
that person who cheated in 2012
several users who had bitcoin
because the FBI intervened ??
for the money
not for bitcoin
, then that suits us or abroad in
little change
will be taken
if not always goes first
one who has lost many XMR
and shoot at BCX
Who knows what can happen
There are many in this story
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September 23, 2014, 09:21:38 AM
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I don't see any reason why BCX should attack Poloniex. The Poloniex attack might have been a smart move by the Monero team. In this way, they can scare BCX, any law intervention would put BCX on the suspect list. He may cool down a little and give MEW more time to figure something out.

I personally conclude MEW have found a hole in their system, and are trying to buy time to implement a fix, or the worst is the hole is not fixable, and they are trying to build evidence in case of the attack and reduce BCX's incentive to launch the attack.
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September 23, 2014, 09:27:59 AM
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I don't see any reason why BCX should attack Poloniex. The Poloniex attack might have been a smart move by the Monero team. In this way, they can scare BCX, any law intervention would put BCX on the suspect list. He may cool down a little and give MEW more time to figure something out.

I personally conclude MEW have found a hole in their system, and are trying to buy time to implement a fix, or the worst is the hole is not fixable, and they are trying to build evidence in case of the attack and reduce BCX's incentive to launch the attack.

this is ridiculous now the Monero team is behind the attack on Polo?

Hi BCX socket-puppet acc.

it was the same nick as before, it was him, and he knew it was trouble doing that, thats why he denied here.

I just can't find why an attack on a cryptocurrency's blockchain should precede with a DDoS attack on an exchange. Seems weird. Maybe there is a third person involved, trying to profit and buy cheap.
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September 23, 2014, 09:31:49 AM
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I don't see any reason why BCX should attack Poloniex. The Poloniex attack might have been a smart move by the Monero team. In this way, they can scare BCX, any law intervention would put BCX on the suspect list. He may cool down a little and give MEW more time to figure something out.

I personally conclude MEW have found a hole in their system, and are trying to buy time to implement a fix, or the worst is the hole is not fixable, and they are trying to build evidence in case of the attack and reduce BCX's incentive to launch the attack.

this is ridiculous now the Monero team is behind the attack on Polo?

Hi BCX socket-puppet acc.

it was the same nick as before, it was him, and he knew it was trouble doing that, thats why he denied here.

I think he's just saying it could have been a smart chess move by someone with an interest in Monero to draw heat on BCX. No one is going to be making any real accusations here of course. If for example, this gets the FBI involved and they start to take a look at the situation, there's no doubt that we would likely see a chilling effect here on the drama.
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September 23, 2014, 09:34:54 AM
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It's also possible that Poloniex is run by people who would be politically opposed to involving the state in what they might see as their personal affairs too. I have no idea if that's the case and have no personal information either way related to Poloniex and their political views. It's just that it wouldn't be unheard of for someone in this community to be morally opposed to state involvement.

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And then there is the other scenario that they might feel a minor (D?)DoS attack simply might not be worth pursuing or involving the state. Where as they would otherwise if it was a more serious attack, or theft.
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September 23, 2014, 09:37:17 AM
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This is gettin good!!

Haven't seen threats like this in a while... But then again I stopped visiting the ANN section.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=97381.0

Whatever happened to bitlane the internet detective? New account?

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September 23, 2014, 09:39:43 AM
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Maybe there is a third person involved, trying to profit and buy cheap.

This aspect should not be forgotten. Basically, the price of 1 XMR was 361-366 before the attack. Before the debacle, it actually was around 400. Using these as a baseline, just evaluate what is the % risk that Monero suffers from the attack, and how much, or is there even the chance to emerge out stronger.

To further make the trading easy, the last 3 days seem to have the same volume-weighted average price of 316. That should be enough for successful trades. As usual, trading out of boredom only loses you fees and slippage.
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September 23, 2014, 09:40:06 AM
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well if I was Poloniex and I was really attacked I would go after whoever tried to take me down.

I think it is a punishable crime to attach a website or a service?
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September 23, 2014, 09:48:44 AM
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well if I was Poloniex and I was really attacked I would go after whoever tried to take me down.

I think it is a punishable crime to attach a website or a service?

Definitely is. Kids have gotten knocks on their doors from law enforcement for using the LOIC when they thought what they were doing was just 'for the lulz'.
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September 23, 2014, 10:16:05 AM
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It's also possible that Poloniex is run by people who would be politically opposed to involving the state in what they might see as their personal affairs too.

Since the MEW is also established today, I may quote the relevant part of what we believe is the right way to handle these.

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MEW has zero-tolerance on actual crimes, violence, deception, coercion, and scamming, in all their forms, by any individuals or groups. Members caught doing such things will be exposed and, if necessary, expelled.

These are the behavior that we acknowledge to be crimes. They are condemned.

MEW does not however have legal or practical jurisdiction to prosecute crimes against MEW or its members, except by other members who have bound themselves to such arbitration by joining MEW.

If actual crimes are committed against us, MEW may apply to outside LEO. After all, their purpose is to find and punish criminals, whereas MEW can effectively only find and expose them. In some cases exposing may not be enough. If we choose not to apply, the reason is more practical than ideological. LEO's do not have a great track record in solving cybercrimes in an equitable way.

So that nobody reads between the lines: It is absolutely too early to even suspect MEW of using dirty tricks, we currently have no such capability nor interest and if something happens now or later to anyone, it can in no way be our fault, because we do not do such things. We much like to remain the leader in fair altcoins and overall fair play, and since we are in no way all-in in this coin and have considerable resources outside of it, we can take much provocation, if someone thinks provoking us is wise and pays off.
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September 23, 2014, 10:29:52 AM
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This is the best challenge for the team of Monero to show the people of Bitcointalk what they really can do.
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September 23, 2014, 10:30:21 AM
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How much time until BCX's bluff is called?


This is the best challenge for the team of Monero to show the people of Bitcointalk what they really can do.

What if it turns out there was no challenge to begin with?
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