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[smooth]

Maybe ask around what older users think of Feathercoin

I am an older user, but I don't follow every bit of altcoin drama, and I never followed Feathercoin at all.

If you want to explain what you're making all these vague references about, I'm all ears.

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[nutildah]

Maybe it's time to admit everything has been said and done on this thread. Post a picture of Hitler and call it a day.

This. This and only this.

[Este Nuno]

Maybe ask around what older users think of Feathercoin

I remember when it came out it was just Litecoin with 1 minute block times. Has it changed?

[5w00p]

[cornfeedhobo]

Absolutely love how short memories are, and how much this thread has devolved.

[TheFascistMind]

If your intention is to imply that BCX's opinion counts (as anything except possibly to the contrary), I am flabbergasted.

As if your opinion has been anything better?

You told everyone Bitcoin was going to the moon, told them buy & hold all the way down since at least $700, you started a thread which emphatically declared that $500 was the bottom, etc.. I disagreed with you every time, and I have been correct every single time. So if anything, users should be listening to me, not you.

I don't dislike you as a person. In fact, I have fond memories. Your ethics are exquisite. I am not patronizing. These are facts to the best of my knowledge having known you before when you were a private speculator before you anointed yourself His Majesty of Altcoins.

I am entirely against this new role you have anointed for yourself. If you are in support of bettering the world with crypto, and thus will support new technology quietly without trying to herd the community politically, I will be your ally. If you continue to create this political angst and surety (which the Bible clearly states is wrong), this only motivates me that much more to do anything in my programming ability to overcome what you have done in order to restore freedom of innovation in the altcoin space unfettered by the herding of the n00bs.

One sign that you are sincere about not harming the community, would be to stop proclaiming that you can read the future of technology. You don't even understand the technology.

The prior two paragraphs are not some idle threat. They are based on inside knowledge I have, which you are not aware of. I am trying to warn you to please not get caught again making proclamations that are going to very likely end up being incorrect.

What the guy said has not come true, so in my books whatever he says from then on, is just air.

That seems to be true. And all your public predictions were too. Even the XMR price is lower than when you told everyone to buy it.

Speaking of that, BBR's price may have seen the first air escaping from the pump. Expect more to follow.

Unfortunately I can not disagree about the long-term future of the BBR price (I have a very specific reason which I will not reveal). The short-term could see another potentially very significant bounce, depending on what jl777 does. Nevertheless, I don't see the point of you doing this? It is very disruptive to the community spirit. Why can't you let investors make their own decisions and so we don't get into these political herding camps and wars?

I still symphatisize for BBR. When the price goes to sustainable level, the only thing hindering me from buying it is the community (or the lack thereof).

That reads like feigned patronizing as a veil to ridicule its community and developers.

If XMR cannot make it despite the dream team,

Watch the best of XMR devs jump ship when they realize the paradigm can be defeated and there is nothing they can do about it.

Yes there are some very smart people who develop for XMR, but they are not the only smart people in the world. Also the smartest of them want to see success in crypto-currency more than they want to be locked into some groupthink, otherwise they aren't smart.

As much as XMR has going for it technically, you are causing a lot of political problems which are killing the spirit. I was thinking before that you could learn to be a lovable angel investor touching the community with morsels of investment to spur on the paradigm shifts we need. But it seems you think the way to organize success is top-down structures, voting, politics, herding, talking to yourself in an echo chamber, etc..

I mean as much as I appreciate your 2 BTC gift (although you never paid the 2.50 BTC bounty on time which is a sin in the Bible), I can't bring myself to agree with your paradigm of organization. Sorry I wish I could. If that means you will regret helping me, that is very unfortunate because I am the one who can change the world with crypto. You will hopefully soon see. Why me? Well not because I am smarter than smooth et al, but I am smart enough and I am very creative with ideas. But mostly because my hands are not tied by groupthink.

I give very small chances for BBR making it either. And if XMR does make it, BBR will wither away or become a community coin for privacy-conscious people that for a reason or another hate XMR (a little bit like LTC vs. BTC).

BBR's big bet for grandeur is the SuperNet. Unless they have something else up their sleeve, their future depends on the SuperNet outcome.

But what good does it do for you to predict what they have up their sleeve? Do you think you can predict what I have up my sleeve?

All this accomplishes is animosity.

P.S. the likely reason the BBR price crashed was Zoid's mistake of stating he wasn't receiving enough development income. How many times am I going to say you are crazy if you develop a coin and don't take a small premine to fund yourself and pay bounties. If you have something unique and you demonstrate you are the better developer on your code than any arseholes who try to fork your project, then your premine is not a negative, it is a positive.

[nutildah]

If you have something unique and you demonstrate you are the better developer on your code than any arseholes who try to fork your project, then your premine is not a negative, it is a positive.

Yeah just like Satoshi's premine. Oh wait a minute thats right there's no such thing.

You should do your project out of the love for it.

If you do it for any other reason, people will see through it and you will fail.

[pa]

If your intention is to imply that BCX's opinion counts (as anything except possibly to the contrary), I am flabbergasted.

As if your opinion has been anything better?

You told everyone Bitcoin was going to the moon, told them buy & hold all the way down since at least $700, you started a thread saying $500 was the bottom, etc.. I disagreed with you every time, and I have been correct every single time. So if anything, users should be listening to me, not you.

I don't dislike you as a person. In fact, I have fond memories. Your ethics are exquisite. I am not patronizing. These are facts to the best of my knowledge having known you before when you were a private speculator before you anointed yourself His Majesty of Altcoins.

I am entirely against this new role you have anointed for yourself. If you are in support of bettering the world with crypto, and thus will support new technology quietly without trying to herd the community politically, I will be your ally. If you continue to create this political angst and surety (which the Bible clearly states is wrong), this only motivates me that much more to do anything in my programming ability to overcome what you have done in order to restore freedom of innovation in the altcoin space unfettered by the herding of the n00bs.

One sign that you are sincere about not harming the community, would be to stop proclaiming that you can read the future of technology. You don't even understand the technology.

The prior two paragraphs are not some idle threat. They are based on inside knowledge I have, which you are not aware of. I am trying to warn you to please not get caught again making proclamations that are going to very likely end up being incorrect.

What the guy said has not come true, so in my books whatever he says from then on, is just air.

That seems to be true. And all your public predictions were too. Even the XMR price is lower than when you told everyone to buy it.

Speaking of that, BBR's price may have seen the first air escaping from the pump. Expect more to follow.

Unfortunately I can not disagree about the long-term future of the BBR price (I have a very specific reason which I will not reveal). The short-term could see another potentially very significant bounce, depending on what jl777 does. Nevertheless, I don't see the point of you doing this? It is very disruptive to the community spirit. Why can't you let investors make their own decisions and so we don't get into these political herding camps and wars?

I still symphatisize for BBR. When the price goes to sustainable level, the only thing hindering me from buying it is the community (or the lack thereof).

That reads like feigned patronizing as a veil to ridicule its community and developers.

If XMR cannot make it despite the dream team,

Watch the best of XMR devs jump ship when they realize the paradigm can be defeated and there is nothing they can do about it.

Yes there are some very smart people who develop for XMR, but they are not the only smart people in the world. Also the smartest of them want to see success in crypto-currency more than they want to be locked into some groupthink, otherwise they aren't smart.

As much as XMR has going for it technically, you are causing a lot of political problems which are killing the spirit. I was thinking before that you could learn to be a lovable angel investor touching the community with morsels of investment to spur on the paradigm shifts we need. But it seems you think the way to organize success is top-down structures, voting, politics, herding, talking to yourself in an echo chamber, etc..

I mean as much as I appreciate your 2 BTC gift (although you never paid the 2.50 BTC bounty on time which is a sin in the Bible), I can't bring myself to agree with your paradigm of organization. Sorry I wish I could. If that means you will regret helping me, that is very unfortunate because I am the one who can change the world with crypto. You will hopefully soon see. Why me? Well not because I am smarter than smooth et al, but I am smart enough and I am very creative with ideas. But mostly because my hands are not tied by groupthink.

I give very small chances for BBR making it either. And if XMR does make it, BBR will wither away or become a community coin for privacy-conscious people that for a reason or another hate XMR (a little bit like LTC vs. BTC).

BBR's big bet for grandeur is the SuperNet. Unless they have something else up their sleeve, their future depends on the SuperNet outcome.

But what good does it do for you to predict what they have up their sleeve? Do you think you can predict what I have up my sleeve?

All this accomplishes is animosity.

P.S. the likely reason the BBR price crashed was Zoid's mistake of stating he wasn't receiving enough development income. How many times am I going to say you are crazy if you develop a coin and don't take a small premine to fund yourself and pay bounties. If you have something unique and you demonstrate you are the better developer on your code than any arseholes who try to fork your project, then your premine is not a negative, it is a positive.

I truly hope you succeed in your quest to create the ultimate cryptocurrency. If such a thing can be done, I am all for it. But your public attacks on Risto, whom you call your friend, are really ungenerous. He's not "herding" anyone and not "anointing" himself to anything, except perhaps with tongue-in-cheek. He's a fan of Monero and wishes to create a community of Monero fans. The rest is in your imagination.

[TheFascistMind]

I truly hope you succeed in your quest to create the ultimate cryptocurrency. If such a thing can be done, I am all for it.

I hope it can be done. I will never publicly attach myself to such a coin.

But your public attacks on Risto, whom you call your friend, are really ungenerous. He's not "herding" anyone and not "anointing" himself to anything, except perhaps with tongue-in-cheek. He's a fan of Monero and wishes to create a community of Monero fans. The rest is in your imagination.

I am not hallucinating about him attacking BBR above, thus fostering a war between two camps of supporters.

I am entirely against creating a community of fanboiz (the iPhone boiz at the altar are annoying as snot). This has nothing to do with the immense task in front of us to save the world. We need users of currency, not soap opera in BitTalkLand.

I will soon scramble my forum password hopefully for the last time (if God could only grant me discipline!).

If anybody has anything they want to say to me, please say it now.

[Come-In-Behind]

If your intention is to imply that BCX's opinion counts (as anything except possibly to the contrary), I am flabbergasted.

As if your opinion has been anything better?

You told everyone Bitcoin was going to the moon, told them buy & hold all the way down since at least $700, you started a thread saying $500 was the bottom, etc.. I disagreed with you every time, and I have been correct every single time. So if anything, users should be listening to me, not you.

I don't dislike you as a person. In fact, I have fond memories. Your ethics are exquisite. I am not patronizing. These are facts to the best of my knowledge having known you before when you were a private speculator before you anointed yourself His Majesty of Altcoins.

I am entirely against this new role you have anointed for yourself. If you are in support of bettering the world with crypto, and thus will support new technology quietly without trying to herd the community politically, I will be your ally. If you continue to create this political angst and surety (which the Bible clearly states is wrong), this only motivates me that much more to do anything in my programming ability to overcome what you have done in order to restore freedom of innovation in the altcoin space unfettered by the herding of the n00bs.

One sign that you are sincere about not harming the community, would be to stop proclaiming that you can read the future of technology. You don't even understand the technology.

The prior two paragraphs are not some idle threat. They are based on inside knowledge I have, which you are not aware of. I am trying to warn you to please not get caught again making proclamations that are going to very likely end up being incorrect.

What the guy said has not come true, so in my books whatever he says from then on, is just air.

That seems to be true. And all your public predictions were too. Even the XMR price is lower than when you told everyone to buy it.

Speaking of that, BBR's price may have seen the first air escaping from the pump. Expect more to follow.

Unfortunately I can not disagree about the long-term future of the BBR price (I have a very specific reason which I will not reveal). The short-term could see another potentially very significant bounce, depending on what jl777 does. Nevertheless, I don't see the point of you doing this? It is very disruptive to the community spirit. Why can't you let investors make their own decisions and so we don't get into these political herding camps and wars?

I still symphatisize for BBR. When the price goes to sustainable level, the only thing hindering me from buying it is the community (or the lack thereof).

That reads like feigned patronizing as a veil to ridicule its community and developers.

If XMR cannot make it despite the dream team,

Watch the best of XMR devs jump ship when they realize the paradigm can be defeated and there is nothing they can do about it.

Yes there are some very smart people who develop for XMR, but they are not the only smart people in the world. Also the smartest of them want to see success in crypto-currency more than they want to be locked into some groupthink, otherwise they aren't smart.

As much as XMR has going for it technically, you are causing a lot of political problems which are killing the spirit. I was thinking before that you could learn to be a lovable angel investor touching the community with morsels of investment to spur on the paradigm shifts we need. But it seems you think the way to organize success is top-down structures, voting, politics, herding, talking to yourself in an echo chamber, etc..

I mean as much as I appreciate your 2 BTC gift (although you never paid the 2.50 BTC bounty on time which is a sin in the Bible), I can't bring myself to agree with your paradigm of organization. Sorry I wish I could. If that means you will regret helping me, that is very unfortunate because I am the one who can change the world with crypto. You will hopefully soon see. Why me? Well not because I am smarter than smooth et al, but I am smart enough and I am very creative with ideas. But mostly because my hands are not tied by groupthink.

I give very small chances for BBR making it either. And if XMR does make it, BBR will wither away or become a community coin for privacy-conscious people that for a reason or another hate XMR (a little bit like LTC vs. BTC).

BBR's big bet for grandeur is the SuperNet. Unless they have something else up their sleeve, their future depends on the SuperNet outcome.

But what good does it do for you to predict what they have up their sleeve? Do you think you can predict what I have up my sleeve?

All this accomplishes is animosity.

P.S. the likely reason the BBR price crashed was Zoid's mistake of stating he wasn't receiving enough development income. How many times am I going to say you are crazy if you develop a coin and don't take a small premine to fund yourself and pay bounties. If you have something unique and you demonstrate you are the better developer on your code than any arseholes who try to fork your project, then your premine is not a negative, it is a positive.

I truly hope you succeed in your quest to create the ultimate cryptocurrency. If such a thing can be done, I am all for it. But your public attacks on Risto, whom you call your friend, are really ungenerous. He's not "herding" anyone and not "anointing" himself to anything, except perhaps with tongue-in-cheek. He's a fan of Monero and wishes to create a community of Monero fans. The rest is in your imagination.

Or it may simply be that Rptiella expresses his enthusiasm differently than others, I can sort of see his perspective in this. Of course only he(and those he chooses to reveal to) can know his true thoughts.

Concerning development income:

I believe the XMR team should simply start something akin to the "dreaded Bitcoin Foundation". But, instead of all the slyness that the Bitcoin Foundation uses, they can simply calculate how much $ they'll need, along with other expenses(Rent, Food, w/e), and present it to the Monero community to give feedback on. Once the majority of the community agrees on how much should be raised for necessities, then a funding program can begin(With incentive such as "titles" and such). So it wouldn't be so much as a glorified foundation, instead as funding for necessities.

[vuduchyld]

I truly hope you succeed in your quest to create the ultimate cryptocurrency. If such a thing can be done, I am all for it.

I hope it can be done. I will never publicly attach myself to such a coin.

But your public attacks on Risto, whom you call your friend, are really ungenerous. He's not "herding" anyone and not "anointing" himself to anything, except perhaps with tongue-in-cheek. He's a fan of Monero and wishes to create a community of Monero fans. The rest is in your imagination.

I am not hallucinating about him attacking BBR above, thus fostering a war between two camps of supporters.

I am entirely against creating a community of fanboiz (the iPhone boiz at the altar are annoying as snot). This has nothing to do with the immense task in front of us to save the world. We need users of currency, not soap opera in BitTalkLand.

I will soon scramble my forum password hopefully for the last time.

If anybody has anything they want to say to me, please say it now.

I appreciate your contributions to the community as a whole.  Thank you.

[TheFascistMind]

If you have something unique and you demonstrate you are the better developer on your code than any arseholes who try to fork your project, then your premine is not a negative, it is a positive.

Yeah just like Satoshi's premine. Oh wait a minute thats right there's no such thing.

You should do your project out of the love for it.

If you do it for any other reason, people will see through it and you will fail.

You are entitled to your opinion and perhaps it is good for you that you will not invest in any altcoin with a premine, especially one with perpetual debasement which means the premine is forever diminishing.

But please allow me to point out an egregious flaw in your logic. Satoshi was mining when no one else was, so he got 100,000s of coins using only a few PCs to mine with. That is equivalent to a premine.

And developers who are not rich have to consider the opportunity cost of other work they could do, especially when they have serious financial needs, such as for example myself I need some very expensive health care in the near future. Also I don't know about you, but I am sort of tired of living like a cockroach and would like to have a nice life in my retirement (if I live that long).

[slapper]

If your intention is to imply that BCX's opinion counts (as anything except possibly to the contrary), I am flabbergasted.

As if your opinion has been anything better?

You told everyone Bitcoin was going to the moon, told them buy & hold all the way down since at least $700, you started a thread which emphatically declared that $500 was the bottom, etc.. I disagreed with you every time, and I have been correct every single time. So if anything, users should be listening to me, not you.

I don't dislike you as a person. In fact, I have fond memories. Your ethics are exquisite. I am not patronizing. These are facts to the best of my knowledge having known you before when you were a private speculator before you anointed yourself His Majesty of Altcoins.

I am entirely against this new role you have anointed for yourself. If you are in support of bettering the world with crypto, and thus will support new technology quietly without trying to herd the community politically, I will be your ally. If you continue to create this political angst and surety (which the Bible clearly states is wrong), this only motivates me that much more to do anything in my programming ability to overcome what you have done in order to restore freedom of innovation in the altcoin space unfettered by the herding of the n00bs.

One sign that you are sincere about not harming the community, would be to stop proclaiming that you can read the future of technology. You don't even understand the technology.

The prior two paragraphs are not some idle threat. They are based on inside knowledge I have, which you are not aware of. I am trying to warn you to please not get caught again making proclamations that are going to very likely end up being incorrect.

What the guy said has not come true, so in my books whatever he says from then on, is just air.

That seems to be true. And all your public predictions were too. Even the XMR price is lower than when you told everyone to buy it.

Speaking of that, BBR's price may have seen the first air escaping from the pump. Expect more to follow.

Unfortunately I can not disagree about the long-term future of the BBR price (I have a very specific reason which I will not reveal). The short-term could see another potentially very significant bounce, depending on what jl777 does. Nevertheless, I don't see the point of you doing this? It is very disruptive to the community spirit. Why can't you let investors make their own decisions and so we don't get into these political herding camps and wars?

I still symphatisize for BBR. When the price goes to sustainable level, the only thing hindering me from buying it is the community (or the lack thereof).

That reads like feigned patronizing as a veil to ridicule its community and developers.

If XMR cannot make it despite the dream team,

Watch the best of XMR devs jump ship when they realize the paradigm can be defeated and there is nothing they can do about it.

Yes there are some very smart people who develop for XMR, but they are not the only smart people in the world. Also the smartest of them want to see success in crypto-currency more than they want to be locked into some groupthink, otherwise they aren't smart.

As much as XMR has going for it technically, you are causing a lot of political problems which are killing the spirit. I was thinking before that you could learn to be a lovable angel investor touching the community with morsels of investment to spur on the paradigm shifts we need. But it seems you think the way to organize success is top-down structures, voting, politics, herding, talking to yourself in an echo chamber, etc..

I mean as much as I appreciate your 2 BTC gift (although you never paid the 2.50 BTC bounty on time which is a sin in the Bible), I can't bring myself to agree with your paradigm of organization. Sorry I wish I could. If that means you will regret helping me, that is very unfortunate because I am the one who can change the world with crypto. You will hopefully soon see. Why me? Well not because I am smarter than smooth et al, but I am smart enough and I am very creative with ideas. But mostly because my hands are not tied by groupthink.

I give very small chances for BBR making it either. And if XMR does make it, BBR will wither away or become a community coin for privacy-conscious people that for a reason or another hate XMR (a little bit like LTC vs. BTC).

BBR's big bet for grandeur is the SuperNet. Unless they have something else up their sleeve, their future depends on the SuperNet outcome.

But what good does it do for you to predict what they have up their sleeve? Do you think you can predict what I have up my sleeve?

All this accomplishes is animosity.

P.S. the likely reason the BBR price crashed was Zoid's mistake of stating he wasn't receiving enough development income. How many times am I going to say you are crazy if you develop a coin and don't take a small premine to fund yourself and pay bounties. If you have something unique and you demonstrate you are the better developer on your code than any arseholes who try to fork your project, then your premine is not a negative, it is a positive.

Going to post this in the BBR thread. As a former supporter of XMR, I cannot express in any better way some of the strongest reasons for a rise in angst against XMR that I went through. That and the lack of scholarly/professional conduct from other figureheads who should have known better or at least be told by others in team to keep it "real".

Thank you for one of the best posts I have read in a long time.

[TheFascistMind]

There will never be a perfect coin because people want things different, so a perfect for some is not the same for other.

I am 100% in support of diversity of innovation.

I do think in the end we might end up with one dominant digital currency (most likely fiat although we are trying our best for it to be decentralized crypto-currency), because that is the way currencies behave because users want to be able to spend their currency every where i.e. fungability, not a fractured market.

However, with decentralized exchanges we could see instant conversion between currencies and thus diversity could proliferate without impinging on fungability. However the unit-of-account issue would remain, so I am still thinking one currency will become dominant over time.

Users of currency are not concerned about fluctuations in its value, because everything is priced in that currency (unit-of-account). Bitcoin is not a unit-of-account. National currencies are. That worked when everything people bought was local. Now as we move to global purchases (e.g. Alibaba and DHgate are international Amazons), users will want a global unit-of-account. We are in a race against Suckerberg and Thail, who work for the fiat overloads. That is why we don't have time to waste on these soap operas. Thus why I will scramble my forum password, lest I lose all the time for development to ego battles.

[matrix961]

I truly hope you succeed in your quest to create the ultimate cryptocurrency. If such a thing can be done, I am all for it.

I hope it can be done. I will never publicly attach myself to such a coin.

But your public attacks on Risto, whom you call your friend, are really ungenerous. He's not "herding" anyone and not "anointing" himself to anything, except perhaps with tongue-in-cheek. He's a fan of Monero and wishes to create a community of Monero fans. The rest is in your imagination.

I am not hallucinating about him attacking BBR above, thus fostering a war between two camps of supporters.

I am entirely against creating a community of fanboiz (the iPhone boiz at the altar are annoying as snot). This has nothing to do with the immense task in front of us to save the world. We need users of currency, not soap opera in BitTalkLand.

I will soon scramble my forum password hopefully for the last time (if God could only grant me discipline!).

If anybody has anything they want to say to me, please say it now.

Thank you for helping. It was interesting and informative following your posts. Sharing your ideas has been important.

[pa]

If anybody has anything they want to say to me, please say it now.

Thanks for you valuable insights to the Monero team, and I think you are wrong about Rptiella being a negative force, so far his contributions have been unmatched only by the Monero team themselves, that build Monero, the MEW is really well done and I think you take his views and opinions too harshly, its his views and I dont think anyone follows him by default but take his words in high regards when creating a opinion or taking actions, like the Monero devs took yours.
Also I dont think you are totally crazy anymore, just a bit narcissist like most genius. There will never be a perfect coin because people want things different, so a perfect for some is not the same for other.
Last, no one is forced to like or buy BBR or XMR, if someone chooses XMR is because they see its merits as more valuable.

Life is short, the Art long. Don't dissipate your energies on forum discussions. If you truly are capable of doing what you say (and I think you may be), then we need you scaling the heights to steal fire from the gods. I agree with you that we haven't much time left.

[TheFascistMind]

Don't dissipate your energies on forum discussions.

"So it shall be written, so it shall be done."

(I think we are almost done here. Thanks to all those who expressed understanding. To those I've offended, I know I have faults and apologies we rub each other the wrong way.)

[Cryptobro]

Wouldn't you at least like to stick around until the BCX deadline is reached?
It's only a couple of days from now I think isn't it.

[BitcoinEXpress]

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[TheFascistMind]

Wouldn't you at least like to stick around until the BCX deadline is reached?
It's only a couple of days from now I think isn't it.

Do you know how much code I can write in a couple of days if I am not constantly pressing reload in the browser?

Scrambling password now...

I said 22 days which is October 11-ish into early Oct 12 GMT

500 BTC challenge is still open to you

Let see just how sure you really are.


~BCX~

Oh my.