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July 14, 2015, 01:03:29 PM
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 song seems to be back up on cryptopia   Cheesy

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July 14, 2015, 01:14:03 PM
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 song seems to be back up on cryptopia   Cheesy

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Well will ya look at that?

Some good news for a change Smiley

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July 14, 2015, 05:55:21 PM
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 song seems to be back up on cryptopia   Cheesy

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Excellent -- do you know if they are using the new wallet?

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July 14, 2015, 07:25:03 PM
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 song seems to be back up on cryptopia   Cheesy

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Excellent -- do you know if they are using the new wallet?



 idk about their software but i sent some coin just after i posted, and they seem to be arriving on target - 1 conf to go  Smiley

[edit] i think it was about 10 hrs, tx compleated successfully   Smiley

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July 15, 2015, 06:06:57 AM
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Finally it looks like this transition might work :-)

Hash-to-Coins.com says that their pool is updated as well.

The big thing is how to get someone to mine this coin to block 80000.  The value is just so so low.  Right now there is only .2 BTC worth of buy orders and over 7 BTC of sell orders.

Funny - I always see a big manic buy-sell thing go on every few days in the blink of an eye on C-Cex.  It must be someone trading with themselves to keep the volume up, as there is never a demand to buy the coins. 

I've tested buying at 160 to 180 sats, but somehow the brief manic trading always happens 1 or 2 sats higher than what I offer and again it happens in the blink of an eye - lol.  I guess it is called coin survival. It keeps an artificial volume on C-Cex and doesn't cost much to do it (just trading fees).

Cryptopia dropped the coin due to the initial KGW transition fiasco recently.  That just leaves C-Cex.  I've tried to get Bittrex to list it, but they won't due to the large pre-mine.

Also, I wonder if we will hit another crazy (low difficulty) period before the switch to KGW ?? -- as I haven't been keeping track.

If you want the mining to move faster -- there needs to be incentive.  Unfortunately, right now mining SONG is worth 5% of using the same hash to mine LTC.



Yes I agree there's some pain here at the moment.

All I can say is that when we (I) eventually mine to the KGW changeover point then things will get a lot better.

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July 15, 2015, 06:40:49 PM
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So why is the pre-mine shrinking by 100k SONG every few days?

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July 16, 2015, 03:58:37 AM
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So why is the pre-mine shrinking by 100k SONG every few days?



Thanks HD given all the associated controversy I'm selling it to help pay for the mining. 

Then I'm hoping to buy back in as well as accumulate coins back with the mining.  So far I've mined about 10,000 on the way to the re-target point.

Figure this is the best thing to do.

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July 16, 2015, 01:55:20 PM
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 Propably interesting for you Dave

http://www.coindesk.com/berklee-report-blockchain-royalty-network-musicians/


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July 16, 2015, 06:43:34 PM
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As I mentioned before - I'm willing to sell you hash for SONG (directly from my miners).

I assume you are buying the hash from Nicehash / Westhash?  That is the cheapest route -- but the price fluctuates a lot (right now it is about .25 Gh/s but two days ago it was .35 Gh/s and a week ago it was .55 Gh/s).

If everything is ready for the KGW change-over then I would knock this out fast with 1 Gh/s or 2 Gh/s while prices are low -- and just to spare you the pain.

If you want - I can provide hash (minimum 500 Mh/s) up to the 80k mark for a certain number of SONG.

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July 16, 2015, 10:51:27 PM
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Well there are a lot of buy and sell orders on the table -- so the key question is:

Are they from different people?  Or just one person?

So there needs to be a daily volume of .2 BTC for not just the next 2 weeks, but the previous 2 weeks as well.  So one would need to assume .4 BTC per day for the next 2 weeks just to be safe I guess. 

Is there a way to see the daily volumes for a coin on C-Cex?

Curious -- how smart is C-Cex in spotting fake buy and sells from the same person?  Do you think they at least track orders from the same IP address?

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Well there are a lot of buy and sell orders on the table -- so the key question is:

Are they from different people?  Or just one person?

So there needs to be a daily volume of .2 BTC for not just the next 2 weeks, but the previous 2 weeks as well.  So one would need to assume .4 BTC per day for the next 2 weeks just to be safe I guess. 

Is there a way to see the daily volumes for a coin on C-Cex?

Curious -- how smart is C-Cex in spotting fake buy and sells from the same person?  Do you think they at least track orders from the same IP address?



By my opinion C-cex is only take care of profit


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July 17, 2015, 01:15:22 AM
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Well there are a lot of buy and sell orders on the table -- so the key question is:

Are they from different people?  Or just one person?

So there needs to be a daily volume of .2 BTC for not just the next 2 weeks, but the previous 2 weeks as well.  So one would need to assume .4 BTC per day for the next 2 weeks just to be safe I guess. 

Is there a way to see the daily volumes for a coin on C-Cex?

Curious -- how smart is C-Cex in spotting fake buy and sells from the same person?  Do you think they at least track orders from the same IP address?



Thanks HD,

Just a matter of survival until we get to 80K.  I've already told you I'm selling the pre-mine that you've referred to on numerous occasions as a survival nemesis for the coin.  So instead of running everything down could you please find it within yourself to lend a hand instead of constantly undermining every effort?

That would be greatly appreciated.

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WARNING: C-CEX is Delisting Songcoin on 30th of July. Please withdraw your trading coins from the exchange and transfer them to:






Thanks to C-CEX for their support over the last eight months and thank you to Cryptopia for welcoming us into the fold.






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So you are giving up on C-Cex?  Because you don't want to keep up the volume?

One would think it would be best to have two exchanges to trade on -- not just one -- plus Cryptopia is definitely a tier 3 exchange.  Not very well known and with much less overall volume.  Over the last year Cryptopia had practically no activity for SONG and then they froze trading for several weeks.

You've got to keep SONG listed on C-Cex.  It only takes .2 BTC of volume per day to make them happy.

Losing C-Cex is just another nail in the coffin for SONG.  A big one.

There are at least 12 more days to get the volume back up to speed.  No reason to say "Goodbye" to C-Cex this early.

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So you are giving up on C-Cex?  Because you don't want to keep up the volume?

One would think it would be best to have two exchanges to trade on -- not just one -- plus Cryptopia is definitely a tier 3 exchange.  Not very well known and with much less overall volume.  Over the last year Cryptopia had practically no activity for SONG and then they froze trading for several weeks.

You've got to keep SONG listed on C-Cex.  It only takes .2 BTC of volume per day to make them happy.

Losing C-Cex is just another nail in the coffin for SONG.  A big one.

There are at least 12 more days to get the volume back up to speed.  No reason to say "Goodbye" to C-Cex this early.



Thanks HD,

I wouldn't like anyone to lose their coins because I've failed to notify them of the impending delist. 

Also, since when has it been the sole responsibility of the dev to ensure sufficient trading volumes on exchanges?  I'm selling the pre-mine and making volume this way.  If that's significant to keep C-CEX happy then good.  If not then move over to Cryptopia.  There's no difference I can see in fact Cryptopia has a greater array of coins to trade as well as other features unavailable on C-CEX.

It's interesting, I also buy Goldcoin from Cryptsy on occasion and noted the low volumes there do not make the coin subject to delisting.  I guess this is because C-CEX sees itself as an incubator of new coins so there's a high turnover of new and dead coins etc.

Unfortunately that doesn't explain all the untraded coins on C-CEX immune to the delist rule.  I can only see trading for about 40% of all the coins listed on the exchange.  Anyway I'm very grateful to C-CEX for giving us a shot, it's a pretty good exchange and their customer service is excellent.

Personally I can't wait until the 80k slog is over so we can move ahead with the other plans and leave all the technical problems behind us.

Cheers

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Well with C-Cex anyone can buy their way onto the exchange these days -- very quickly (for less than 1 BTC).  They take all types of coins -- especially those with pre-mines.

Cryptsy is much more selective in what they take -- and I believe those with pre-mines are rare if nonexistent.

No - it is not the developers responsibility to do anything really.  LOL  This coin has no purpose at the moment and no plan.  Right now it is just fighting to exist.  In my opinion -- being delisted from C-Cex will make it much harder to survive as I doubt they will take you back in the future.

Bittrex has already said no -- due to the pre-mine. 

You are the one that has by far the most money to lose or gain with SONG.  For the rest of us -- it is just a BTC or so.  Most likely for many -- very little.

There's nothing special about SONG -- no new technology -- no plan -- nothing.  Honestly it is probably just a handful of people that are keeping this coin afloat and we are all most likely trading with each other.  LOL

To me -- this seems to be a critical point.  You have the new KGW implemented -- at block 80000.  If anything -- this is the time to stay on C-Cex as you will need all the help you can get in order to get through the hard blocks.  This is the time to spend money or make partnerships to get this coin to the new starting line.

It would be bad if you had no backup if Cryptopia folded or delisted SONG.  Just my opinion.

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Well with C-Cex anyone can buy their way onto the exchange these days -- very quickly (for less than 1 BTC).  They take all types of coins -- especially those with pre-mines.

Cryptsy is much more selective in what they take -- and I believe those with pre-mines are rare if nonexistent.

No - it is not the developers responsibility to do anything really.  LOL  This coin has no purpose at the moment and no plan.  Right now it is just fighting to exist.  In my opinion -- being delisted from C-Cex will make it much harder to survive as I doubt they will take you back in the future.

Bittrex has already said no -- due to the pre-mine. 

You are the one that has by far the most money to lose or gain with SONG.  For the rest of us -- it is just a BTC or so.  Most likely for many -- very little.

There's nothing special about SONG -- no new technology -- no plan -- nothing.  Honestly it is probably just a handful of people that are keeping this coin afloat and we are all most likely trading with each other.  LOL

To me -- this seems to be a critical point.  You have the new KGW implemented -- at block 80000.  If anything -- this is the time to stay on C-Cex as you will need all the help you can get in order to get through the hard blocks.  This is the time to spend money or make partnerships to get this coin to the new starting line.

It would be bad if you had no backup if Cryptopia folded or delisted SONG.  Just my opinion.




It depends what the pre-mine is intended for.  We've always been transparent about this, that it's mainly intended for associated coin development.  So selling it to finance this painful mining phase is a pretty good example.  It's not desperation stage though, I wouldn't care if we were out in the cold without an exchange for a while, there's new exchanges and alternate exchange mechanisms coming along to support the industry.

Also Cryptopia seem to be giving it a really good shot and they want us there.

HD, if you expended as much mental energy supporting the coin instead of highlighting every negative everyone involved would be better off.

Just my opinion though and I do appreciate your input however painful at times.







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 I can bring  Song to best service ever,i think i will not problem with that

Now thay have dalays with intagrating cryptocurrencys,i will try song to be added in first round

Will write you pm abut them,if not today than tomorrow
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July 20, 2015, 01:17:27 PM
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 I can bring  Song to best service ever,i think i will not problem with that

Now thay have dalays with intagrating cryptocurrencys,i will try song to be added in first round

Will write you pm abut them,if not today than tomorrow
P

Awesome thanks Pab

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