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i had to admit im a little bet angry for i am asking for a payout, yes at the earlier part of that same bets involved.
and as i am requesting for refunds at the end on my messages and quotes, im being replied telling me not to have payouts. i let go with that payout disputes and currently requested admin for the return of my bitcoins.
you're always right that ill should have to do this in a nice way.
ADMIN PLEASE, I BEG YOU TO HAVE MY BITCOINS BACK. I WILL PATIENTLY WAIT OF
THAT REQUESTED AMOUNT HAPPILY.
THANKS TO FEW MEMBERS THAT ACTIVELY PARTICIPATED.
I have no idea why you are complaining when you clearly have DOUBLE SPEND transactions linked to your address. Jan 12th you posted this message: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=813554.msg17478254#msg17478254Which says bradoortalla81
wallet address 16eENXi71JwATTCxoeg6qE4pBuxZRX6xoP On Dec 8th, you sent 2 transactions a few minutes apart from each other. First 140b081c7fc8f47eb5c37989ed7c88bc0e0e12ab651b617d29970399edb97e9b Which NEVER CONFIRMED because you used a VERY VERY small fee of 4 Sats/Byte, which is like 1000 Sats miner fee, which wouldn't of even confirmed back in 2012. Then 15 minutes later you've sent the same input 0.20228252 with 7fd4827b243c299a748868a87f5409fd16d67688ae1de7d6c2b983beae48234e This one has a VERY LARGE miner fee of 116 Sats/byte which will confirm for sure while the other one will get lost. You've sent this money to 1JsrGwYQGRDAKEyk2TqinnBaeLmXHzYUPz What I'm I missing here? you miss a lot of things! you miss to respect brando's right to make requests, to be refunded was his last. instead you are accusing him to a double spend transaction you explained. you might want to expose and advertise the ways on how to do the fraudelent acts and attempts to cheat by letting this man to explain how or why. never to consider that he might no know whats going on previously. if you really were following from the original post to latest quotes and reply, you miss again. remember that you have to prove to us according to txid's not by strong ,expressive out of relevance, wrong accusations. 1HTjJ7Ri6LNvbu8GEAeArkFcmTWrb8zqVA, that was the one you miss to connect proving b posting the txid which if you clicked of that link will redirect to a deposit from his wallet address you mentioned above. lets consider the one transaction of zero confirmation from address 16eENXi71JwATTCxoeg6qE4pBuxZRX6xoP, you then miss for the third time to include on your so called detailed sending sequence and each fees, your historical and very dramatic story of events were there before the first txid from 16eENXi71JwATTCxoeg6qE4pBuxZRX6xoP (brado's wallet) and 1HTjJ7Ri6LNvbu8GEAeArkFcmTWrb8zqVA (admins wallet). you miss to stay relevant stop triggering anybody to show each others btc addresses suspicious wallets with txids proving and promoting double spending like this non sense of yours .if you want to learn how or why or whatever using forum and same sites, you can open a thread away from this portion. brado and gambling site, two parties involve of a dispute. if you wont continue listening to me, and stop reading might just leave away, you finally to miss the entire summary according what i studied on brando's suspicious accusations. quick review: 1. wallet receives about 20 cents 2. emptied the wallet, txid do contain outputs w/ 0 confirmations 3 deposited 30 cents 4 involved betting secondstrade with six desired safe number confirmations 5 send to different addresses to check then 6 promised by bet display on site to have payouts in 1 confimation 7 he ask instead a refund on ow bitcoins thats simple. Yes but the evidence points that bradoortalla81 wallet is clearly 16eENXi71JwATTCxoeg6qE4pBuxZRX6xoP and with the first transaction he sent exactly 0.20 BTC to 15Mq1cQUBNa9ukTqZrydDCan5AQAPUiuRW. We have no idea who is 15Mq1cQUBNa9ukTqZrydDCan5AQAPUiuRW however it appears to be someone else who he tried to scam because that transaction happened at Thursday, December 8th 2016, 22:45:03 and the latter happened at Thursday, December 8th 2016, 23:40:54 -07:00, about an hour later ( i had a mistake prior). So its possible that bradoortalla81 was a newbie and sent it with a very small fee, however if that was the case, he would have to wait a few days or a week for the transaction to get cancelled and he could resend it somewhere else. Not an hour later. 15Mq1cQUBNa9ukTqZ... is not betting address, I see no reason to doublespend. I think this was mistake with low fee. |
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January 19, 2017, 09:08:03 AM |
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i had to admit im a little bet angry for i am asking for a payout, yes at the earlier part of that same bets involved.
and as i am requesting for refunds at the end on my messages and quotes, im being replied telling me not to have payouts. i let go with that payout disputes and currently requested admin for the return of my bitcoins.
you're always right that ill should have to do this in a nice way.
ADMIN PLEASE, I BEG YOU TO HAVE MY BITCOINS BACK. I WILL PATIENTLY WAIT OF
THAT REQUESTED AMOUNT HAPPILY.
THANKS TO FEW MEMBERS THAT ACTIVELY PARTICIPATED.
I have no idea why you are complaining when you clearly have DOUBLE SPEND transactions linked to your address. Jan 12th you posted this message: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=813554.msg17478254#msg17478254Which says bradoortalla81
wallet address 16eENXi71JwATTCxoeg6qE4pBuxZRX6xoP On Dec 8th, you sent 2 transactions a few minutes apart from each other. First 140b081c7fc8f47eb5c37989ed7c88bc0e0e12ab651b617d29970399edb97e9b Which NEVER CONFIRMED because you used a VERY VERY small fee of 4 Sats/Byte, which is like 1000 Sats miner fee, which wouldn't of even confirmed back in 2012. Then 15 minutes later you've sent the same input 0.20228252 with 7fd4827b243c299a748868a87f5409fd16d67688ae1de7d6c2b983beae48234e This one has a VERY LARGE miner fee of 116 Sats/byte which will confirm for sure while the other one will get lost. You've sent this money to 1JsrGwYQGRDAKEyk2TqinnBaeLmXHzYUPz What I'm I missing here? you miss a lot of things! you miss to respect brando's right to make requests, to be refunded was his last. instead you are accusing him to a double spend transaction you explained. you might want to expose and advertise the ways on how to do the fraudelent acts and attempts to cheat by letting this man to explain how or why. never to consider that he might no know whats going on previously. if you really were following from the original post to latest quotes and reply, you miss again. remember that you have to prove to us according to txid's not by strong ,expressive out of relevance, wrong accusations. 1HTjJ7Ri6LNvbu8GEAeArkFcmTWrb8zqVA, that was the one you miss to connect proving b posting the txid which if you clicked of that link will redirect to a deposit from his wallet address you mentioned above. lets consider the one transaction of zero confirmation from address 16eENXi71JwATTCxoeg6qE4pBuxZRX6xoP, you then miss for the third time to include on your so called detailed sending sequence and each fees, your historical and very dramatic story of events were there before the first txid from 16eENXi71JwATTCxoeg6qE4pBuxZRX6xoP (brado's wallet) and 1HTjJ7Ri6LNvbu8GEAeArkFcmTWrb8zqVA (admins wallet). you miss to stay relevant stop triggering anybody to show each others btc addresses suspicious wallets with txids proving and promoting double spending like this non sense of yours .if you want to learn how or why or whatever using forum and same sites, you can open a thread away from this portion. brado and gambling site, two parties involve of a dispute. if you wont continue listening to me, and stop reading might just leave away, you finally to miss the entire summary according what i studied on brando's suspicious accusations. quick review: 1. wallet receives about 20 cents 2. emptied the wallet, txid do contain outputs w/ 0 confirmations 3 deposited 30 cents 4 involved betting secondstrade with six desired safe number confirmations 5 send to different addresses to check then 6 promised by bet display on site to have payouts in 1 confimation 7 he ask instead a refund on ow bitcoins thats simple. Yes but the evidence points that bradoortalla81 wallet is clearly 16eENXi71JwATTCxoeg6qE4pBuxZRX6xoP and with the first transaction he sent exactly 0.20 BTC to 15Mq1cQUBNa9ukTqZrydDCan5AQAPUiuRW. We have no idea who is 15Mq1cQUBNa9ukTqZrydDCan5AQAPUiuRW however it appears to be someone else who he tried to scam because that transaction happened at Thursday, December 8th 2016, 22:45:03 and the latter happened at Thursday, December 8th 2016, 23:40:54 -07:00, about an hour later ( i had a mistake prior). So its possible that bradoortalla81 was a newbie and sent it with a very small fee, however if that was the case, he would have to wait a few days or a week for the transaction to get cancelled and he could resend it somewhere else. Not an hour later. 15Mq1cQUBNa9ukTqZ... is not betting address, I see no reason to doublespend. I think this was mistake with low fee. Yes you might be right however most Bitcoin Core clients don't let you cancel the transaction and let you resend another one an hour later. I haven't used the newer Bitcoin Core versions due to the > 100GB blockchain size but I am pretty sure it won't let you send a transaction with a fee so low because its NEVER GOING TO CONFIRM. That and it usually takes a few days for the transaction to get dropped from the nodes and sent back to the OP wallet. |
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January 21, 2017, 06:05:23 PM |
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OP, the site says 90% payouts but people here are saying 75%. Which is it for forex pairs?
Also are the fees still at 0.2 mBTC per kB rounded up to the next 0.2 mBTC?
payout depend on the expiry of the bet as below. 1~4min: 175%,5~29min: 185%,30~1440min: 190% and fee is as below. 0~1kB : 0.0002 btc 1~2kb : 0.0004 btc 2~3kb : 0.0006 btc thank you. I noticed the website now says 1~4min: 172%,5~29min: 180%,30~1440min: 185%. Care to explain? |
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January 22, 2017, 10:02:25 AM |
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OP, the site says 90% payouts but people here are saying 75%. Which is it for forex pairs?
Also are the fees still at 0.2 mBTC per kB rounded up to the next 0.2 mBTC?
payout depend on the expiry of the bet as below. 1~4min: 175%,5~29min: 185%,30~1440min: 190% and fee is as below. 0~1kB : 0.0002 btc 1~2kb : 0.0004 btc 2~3kb : 0.0006 btc thank you. I noticed the website now says 1~4min: 172%,5~29min: 180%,30~1440min: 185%. Care to explain? It seems that OP decreased the pay rate of 5-29m, 30-1440m, and so does the signature campaign, maybe there is some operation pressure, wish them good luck  |
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adaseb
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January 22, 2017, 10:39:52 AM |
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OP, the site says 90% payouts but people here are saying 75%. Which is it for forex pairs?
Also are the fees still at 0.2 mBTC per kB rounded up to the next 0.2 mBTC?
payout depend on the expiry of the bet as below. 1~4min: 175%,5~29min: 185%,30~1440min: 190% and fee is as below. 0~1kB : 0.0002 btc 1~2kb : 0.0004 btc 2~3kb : 0.0006 btc thank you. I noticed the website now says 1~4min: 172%,5~29min: 180%,30~1440min: 185%. Care to explain? For the Forex Pairs they lowered the win percentage a little because a few months ago someone found some exploit and won like 99% of all the bets on BTC/USD, it hurt them pretty bad and they caught it too late. So you can't really bet on BTCUSD unless you are betting on the 720 minutes, so its no good for scalping. |
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January 22, 2017, 01:48:57 PM |
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the payout have been already sent . after 1 confirmation, the payout is supposed to be sent on our site. thank you. |
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January 22, 2017, 07:06:15 PM |
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The tx fee of 0.0002 ate all your profits and more. |
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January 23, 2017, 12:14:41 PM |
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The tx fee of 0.0002 ate all your profits and more. Our fees 0.0001 only. |
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January 23, 2017, 04:15:19 PM |
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January 23, 2017, 06:17:57 PM |
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Thank sdmin.
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January 24, 2017, 01:29:11 AM
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the payout was paid. thank you. |
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January 24, 2017, 11:14:18 AM |
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When will you guys get the commodities and energies working again on your site?
The Oil, Gold, S&P 500, Nasdaq 100, etc, etc all seem to be down for a few months now? Will you ever bring them back up?
Also can you increase the % win for the 1-2m options for the EURUSD GBPUSD USDJPY pairs, its very unfair at the moment.
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January 24, 2017, 11:17:25 AM |
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When will you guys get the commodities and energies working again on your site?
The Oil, Gold, S&P 500, Nasdaq 100, etc, etc all seem to be down for a few months now? Will you ever bring them back up?
Also can you increase the % win for the 1-2m options for the EURUSD GBPUSD USDJPY pairs, its very unfair at the moment.
Good idea, to increase the payout means more fiat traders come here to play, if they keep the current % win, people will not play, so if customers don't play, they will increase, because this is capital market. |
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January 25, 2017, 12:35:59 AM |
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When will you guys get the commodities and energies working again on your site?
The Oil, Gold, S&P 500, Nasdaq 100, etc, etc all seem to be down for a few months now? Will you ever bring them back up?
Also can you increase the % win for the 1-2m options for the EURUSD GBPUSD USDJPY pairs, its very unfair at the moment.
Good idea, to increase the payout means more fiat traders come here to play, if they keep the current % win, people will not play, so if customers don't play, they will increase, because this is capital market. The Oil, Gold, S&P 500, Nasdaq 100, etc can not be opened for now. and we will consider increasing the payout for Forex pairs . thank you for your good opinion. |
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January 26, 2017, 10:52:45 AM |
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When will you guys get the commodities and energies working again on your site?
The Oil, Gold, S&P 500, Nasdaq 100, etc, etc all seem to be down for a few months now? Will you ever bring them back up?
Also can you increase the % win for the 1-2m options for the EURUSD GBPUSD USDJPY pairs, its very unfair at the moment.
Good idea, to increase the payout means more fiat traders come here to play, if they keep the current % win, people will not play, so if customers don't play, they will increase, because this is capital market. The Oil, Gold, S&P 500, Nasdaq 100, etc can not be opened for now. and we will consider increasing the payout for Forex pairs . thank you for your good opinion. The problem with the forex is that its very difficult to make good wins on it and with the very low % reward, its too risky. You are just better off buying or selling forex pairs in the spot market. The S&P 500 and Nasdaq is much easier because the stock market is in a bull market and for the last few years it went up, so betting on that derivative is much easier and yields higher rewards. With forex its tough because the currencies usually trade sideways. Not much volatility and hence not good for binary options. |
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January 26, 2017, 12:59:26 PM |
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January 27, 2017, 01:56:55 AM |
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You have low change from the bet output, wait a confirm in 2 - 3 days. |
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