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February 08, 2017, 12:38:49 AM |
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I just want to say I play binary options, not dice games, and your system have delay time with a transaction has 20k shatoshis fee, and it showed my bet after 1 confirmation. this shit can make my prediction become wrong, but thank god, I still won. You guys can see it here. and of course if I lose they will refuse my ask  It doesn't matter what miner fee you use, your bet starts to take effect once its relayed on the network. Even if it takes 24 hours to confirm. Either you've sent it using an unreliable node or they had some server issues at the time and it didn't get registered until much later. Try taking another, smaller bet and you will see it should get registered within 2-3 seconds of you hitting send. do not reply my post , please. I'm not newbie or new player in here so I know what is this problem and I read a lot of your post in theard, all of it was no value to solve the problem of players. I just warning for new player about some issue still exist on this site to they refer before deciding to play or not i think your bet was suspected double-spending, but your transaction did not double spending. on our site, if some transaction doubt double-spending, during you bet, the the transaction is supposed to process after 1 confirmation . you can see this part on "Suspicious transactions" of http://secondstrade.com/notice.html. thank you. |
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Itsmylife
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February 08, 2017, 01:49:54 AM |
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I just want to say I play binary options, not dice games, and your system have delay time with a transaction has 20k shatoshis fee, and it showed my bet after 1 confirmation. this shit can make my prediction become wrong, but thank god, I still won. You guys can see it here. and of course if I lose they will refuse my ask It doesn't matter what miner fee you use, your bet starts to take effect once its relayed on the network. Even if it takes 24 hours to confirm. Either you've sent it using an unreliable node or they had some server issues at the time and it didn't get registered until much later. Try taking another, smaller bet and you will see it should get registered within 2-3 seconds of you hitting send. do not reply my post , please. I'm not newbie or new player in here so I know what is this problem and I read a lot of your post in theard, all of it was no value to solve the problem of players. I just warning for new player about some issue still exist on this site to they refer before deciding to play or not on our site, if some transaction doubt double-spending, during you bet, the the transaction is supposed to process after 1 confirmation . you can see this part on "Suspicious transactions" of http://secondstrade.com/notice.html. thank you. this is your think and this is the the reason you using to refuse refund for players. If I lose , will you refund me? of course you will refuse although it was your fault. you said a transaction with 20k satoshis fee is double-spending, lol ! so how much fee I must use to your f*cking system recognize that it is not double-spending ? 100k satoshi or higher? |
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February 08, 2017, 02:34:15 AM |
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February 08, 2017, 04:40:21 AM |
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this is your think and this is the the reason you using to refuse refund for players. If I lose , will you refund me? of course you will refuse although it was your fault.
you said a transaction with 20k satoshis fee is double-spending, lol ! so how much fee I must use to your f*cking system recognize that it is not double-spending ? 100k satoshi or higher?
this is not a refund case. we have already noticed that it can be bet after 1 confirmation. |
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crazydeadmoth
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February 08, 2017, 05:55:51 AM |
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hi ? everyone?
After this time, we will refuse payouts or refund requests of all newbie, jr,mebmer, negative trust member.
We have been advertising only on bitcointalk.org for three years.
Therefore, most of our customers on our site are mostly customers who have used bitcointalk.org for a long time.
However, recent transactions that do not automatically pay out are due to our own double-spending prevention system. Most of them are newbie.
We will soon open a service that will completely prevent this double spending.
Until then, every payout or refund requests of all newbie, jr,mebmer, negative trust member will be rejected.
Above newbie,jr,mebmer, negative trust member are defined as one of the member classifications of bitcointalk.org.
thank you.
I don't get your idea, so you think all newbie rank or jr member people are double-spender? It is illogical sir, you need to implement your system to deposit system, not on-chain betting, account deposit&withdraw system can avoid double spend attack. |
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bitbitnomi
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February 08, 2017, 06:18:27 AM |
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Secondstrade, please read the message i sent you.
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February 08, 2017, 07:32:03 AM |
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shapeshiftscam
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February 08, 2017, 07:42:22 AM |
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OP, I recommend you could find your bugs and vulnerables by yourselves, not rely on players losses here. I want to bet on your site, but now I think you may confiscate my fund, why? You claim most bets are double-spends, do you know the current bitcoin network is very slow? And people wait one transaction with 24 hours even they have paid 0.0005 btc, if you use double-spend as an EXCUSE to non-payment, you will lose all customers very soon. |
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February 08, 2017, 11:29:51 AM |
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OP, I recommend you could find your bugs and vulnerables by yourselves, not rely on players losses here. I want to bet on your site, but now I think you may confiscate my fund, why? You claim most bets are double-spends, do you know the current bitcoin network is very slow? And people wait one transaction with 24 hours even they have paid 0.0005 btc, if you use double-spend as an EXCUSE to non-payment, you will lose all customers very soon. He doesn't call all transaction that don't confirm as double spends, only the ones with VERY small miner fees or the ones who a few seconds after the initial transaction, another one is made using the same input to another address with a higher fee. These days its not smart to run any type of gaming site which is anonymous like this because you bet by a bitcoin transaction because the double spend is a huge issue and very easy for many to perform. The bigger issue with this site is how almost all the bets are pretty much getting delayed because they require manual approval to release payment and that makes it very hectik for most since the website doesnt have any form of support and users are required to make a new account on Bitcointalk just to get their BTC back. |
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bitbitnomi
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February 08, 2017, 11:31:34 AM |
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Reply to the message I sent you.
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February 08, 2017, 12:48:56 PM |
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OP, I recommend you could find your bugs and vulnerables by yourselves, not rely on players losses here. I want to bet on your site, but now I think you may confiscate my fund, why? You claim most bets are double-spends, do you know the current bitcoin network is very slow? And people wait one transaction with 24 hours even they have paid 0.0005 btc, if you use double-spend as an EXCUSE to non-payment, you will lose all customers very soon. He doesn't call all transaction that don't confirm as double spends, only the ones with VERY small miner fees or the ones who a few seconds after the initial transaction, another one is made using the same input to another address with a higher fee. These days its not smart to run any type of gaming site which is anonymous like this because you bet by a bitcoin transaction because the double spend is a huge issue and very easy for many to perform. The bigger issue with this site is how almost all the bets are pretty much getting delayed because they require manual approval to release payment and that makes it very hectik for most since the website doesnt have any form of support and users are required to make a new account on Bitcointalk just to get their BTC back. I hope OP will update his system which is against double spends, otherwise the business is not easy, and many scam accusations. I don't know why this situation is always happening. |
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shapeshiftscam
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February 08, 2017, 12:52:18 PM |
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OP, I recommend you could find your bugs and vulnerables by yourselves, not rely on players losses here. I want to bet on your site, but now I think you may confiscate my fund, why? You claim most bets are double-spends, do you know the current bitcoin network is very slow? And people wait one transaction with 24 hours even they have paid 0.0005 btc, if you use double-spend as an EXCUSE to non-payment, you will lose all customers very soon. He doesn't call all transaction that don't confirm as double spends, only the ones with VERY small miner fees or the ones who a few seconds after the initial transaction, another one is made using the same input to another address with a higher fee. These days its not smart to run any type of gaming site which is anonymous like this because you bet by a bitcoin transaction because the double spend is a huge issue and very easy for many to perform. The bigger issue with this site is how almost all the bets are pretty much getting delayed because they require manual approval to release payment and that makes it very hectik for most since the website doesnt have any form of support and users are required to make a new account on Bitcointalk just to get their BTC back. I hope OP will update his system which is against double spends, otherwise the business is not easy, and many scam accusations. I don't know why this situation is always happening. The transactions he published above, the miner fee is 0.0002 btc, which is normal fee, this is low? I don't think so. I found his announcement, special written and is designed for newbies and jr.members, so hero and senior members won't double spend? The business logic is weird here. |
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February 08, 2017, 01:52:28 PM |
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OP, I recommend you could find your bugs and vulnerables by yourselves, not rely on players losses here. I want to bet on your site, but now I think you may confiscate my fund, why? You claim most bets are double-spends, do you know the current bitcoin network is very slow? And people wait one transaction with 24 hours even they have paid 0.0005 btc, if you use double-spend as an EXCUSE to non-payment, you will lose all customers very soon. He doesn't call all transaction that don't confirm as double spends, only the ones with VERY small miner fees or the ones who a few seconds after the initial transaction, another one is made using the same input to another address with a higher fee. These days its not smart to run any type of gaming site which is anonymous like this because you bet by a bitcoin transaction because the double spend is a huge issue and very easy for many to perform. The bigger issue with this site is how almost all the bets are pretty much getting delayed because they require manual approval to release payment and that makes it very hectik for most since the website doesnt have any form of support and users are required to make a new account on Bitcointalk just to get their BTC back. I hope OP will update his system which is against double spends, otherwise the business is not easy, and many scam accusations. I don't know why this situation is always happening. The transactions he published above, the miner fee is 0.0002 btc, which is normal fee, this is low? I don't think so. I found his announcement, special written and is designed for newbies and jr.members, so hero and senior members won't double spend? The business logic is weird here. In this site, faults is belong players, and admin is always clear  LOL they using f*cking system have a lot of issues, and they dont find any ways to fix them, so their solution is pushing out error for players. They said that to avoid double-spend , the minimum fee of transaction is 20K satoshis per kB, and when I send a transaction with 20k satoshi fee, their system recognized that it is double-spend, but thank god I won my bet , and this is the last time I play in this site. And I want to warning you guys find other sites to play dice or binary options to get better support |
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shapeshiftscam
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February 08, 2017, 02:18:50 PM |
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OP, I recommend you could find your bugs and vulnerables by yourselves, not rely on players losses here. I want to bet on your site, but now I think you may confiscate my fund, why? You claim most bets are double-spends, do you know the current bitcoin network is very slow? And people wait one transaction with 24 hours even they have paid 0.0005 btc, if you use double-spend as an EXCUSE to non-payment, you will lose all customers very soon. He doesn't call all transaction that don't confirm as double spends, only the ones with VERY small miner fees or the ones who a few seconds after the initial transaction, another one is made using the same input to another address with a higher fee. These days its not smart to run any type of gaming site which is anonymous like this because you bet by a bitcoin transaction because the double spend is a huge issue and very easy for many to perform. The bigger issue with this site is how almost all the bets are pretty much getting delayed because they require manual approval to release payment and that makes it very hectik for most since the website doesnt have any form of support and users are required to make a new account on Bitcointalk just to get their BTC back. I hope OP will update his system which is against double spends, otherwise the business is not easy, and many scam accusations. I don't know why this situation is always happening. The transactions he published above, the miner fee is 0.0002 btc, which is normal fee, this is low? I don't think so. I found his announcement, special written and is designed for newbies and jr.members, so hero and senior members won't double spend? The business logic is weird here. In this site, faults is belong players, and admin is always clear LOL they using f*cking system have a lot of issues, and they dont find any ways to fix them, so their solution is pushing out error for players. They said that to avoid double-spend , the minimum fee of transaction is 20K satoshis per kB, and when I send a transaction with 20k satoshi fee, their system recognized that it is double-spend, but thank god I won my bet , and this is the last time I play in this site. And I want to warning you guys find other sites to play dice or binary options to get better support Yeah, I've never seen such a site do this trick, when they want to scam your fund(big amount), they said their players are double-spenders. They pay small amount to the players and say they are rich customers. How much did they scam your winning bet? The scammer is more and more blatant scamming, now I am very angry that how can a site(they have big campaigns to advertise his site) is so ignorant and blantant scamming.  I recommend you to make an open a scam accusation: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0Remember to use the correct format here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260073.0 |
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February 08, 2017, 06:36:48 PM |
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I think blockchain is very slow today still waiting for payouts almost 7 hours now
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shapeshiftscam
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February 09, 2017, 01:52:33 AM |
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I think blockchain is very slow today still waiting for payouts almost 7 hours now
Blockchain has been very slow in recent 1 month, much more transactions before 1 year, and the block size is not big enough. OP use this excuse to judge all slow transactions are double-spends, be careful, don't play here, they will confiscate your money if you win. Check the previous complaints bro. |
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adaseb
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February 09, 2017, 04:28:00 PM |
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I think blockchain is very slow today still waiting for payouts almost 7 hours now
Well did your bet register or no? Go to http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=YOUR_BLOCKCHAIN_TRANS_IDIf its there, then most likely your fee is too lower and you won't get paid until your bet confirms. If its not there then you need to contact the admin with your TX_ID and he will unblock the payment. He blocks many payments who he thinks are double spenders. |
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February 09, 2017, 05:11:48 PM
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hey could you pls answer last time you helped me so fast hope you can do it again |
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Itsmylife
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February 10, 2017, 01:39:36 AM |
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hey could you pls answer last time you helped me so fast hope you can do it again they will not pay you because you are newbie LOL |
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