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[richwang]

Did not see this info in this thread.

We are proud to announce that the NFD development team and community have become part of the Horizon family.

Horizon have been working closely with NFD for the last couple of months and our recent successful upgrade was due, in no small part, to the expertise and professionalism of their development team.

One of the main benefits to acquiring NFD and their development team is their work on Automated Transactions technology which extends the blockchain into other areas beyond digital currency and is something that we believe is a serious game-changer. The NFD team has been working on Automated Transactions technology for some time and has already deployed a working version on their testnet which will be ported over to Horizon, massively extending its functionality and ensuring that, unlike the majority of digital currencies, our platform offers serious benefits to real-world business and commerce.

NFD’s lead developer, Mathias (aka MaWo) will join the Horizon development team as lead developer and he also brings four more elite developers who will be working exclusively on extending the Horizon Platform.

Following the acquisition, NFD holders will be able to exchange their tokens for Horizon at a rate which is currently 25 NFD to one HZ (subject to change).

The exchange will begin on March 9th 2015 and will be handled through an automated system that has been specifically designed to control the rate of the exchange and distribution so there is no risk of coins flooding the market.

In the interest of maintaining a stable market and providing fair distribution, the NFD accounts with the least amount of tokens will be served first and the exchange will take place over 120 days, after which, all unchanged Horizon tokens will be sent back to the escrow account held by Poloniex.

Once the exchange period ends, NFD will become a legacy coin, and all assets will be considered to have been integrated fully into the Horizon Platform.

More details on the exchange will be made available as the start date for the exchange grows nearer.

HZ announcement: https://horizonplatform.io/horizon-acquires-nfd/

[MaWo]

Does HZ keep all the historical order data, anyways?
...
I am asking because to access that historical order data is my workaround to get the 'seller' of a trade.
...

Storing all derived objects in the database was introduced with NXT 1.3.x
Current HZ is based on NXT 1.2.9

Thanks a lot. That had made me hope that in HZ -other than in Nxt- the historical order data might still be accessible. But it's not? I don't know how to continue from here, with the old version. My WORKAROUND sounded feasible, until I realized that relevant historical data is also disappeared from HZ. Let me show you...

When downloading the first 20 assets, there are 324 trades, with 135 unique orders.

Only 11 orders make no problems, examples:

http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getTrades&asset=10655238247608520102 timestamp=7821230 http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getAskOrder&order=16959519049444729662
http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getTrades&asset=14027245553053047036 timestamp=17561202 http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getAskOrder&order=7917523547410995253
http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getTrades&asset=14027245553053047036 timestamp=29083199 http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getAskOrder&order=13410371402375493233
...
http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getTrades&asset=6902084659337863977 timestamp=23450541 http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getAskOrder&order=892259609315602338
http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getTrades&asset=6902084659337863977 timestamp=23554531 http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getAskOrder&order=892259609315602338

= in the form (getTrades request --> timestamp of the problematic trade --> getAskOrder request)


but 124 orders (used in 291 trades) cannot be found - examples:

http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getTrades&asset=11612505588273826616 timestamp=11416126 http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getAskOrder&order=1423320669884458932
http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getTrades&asset=11612505588273826616 timestamp=11921573 http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getAskOrder&order=1423320669884458932
http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getTrades&asset=13033239985357258960 timestamp=11922098 http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getAskOrder&order=8495635304104656779
http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getTrades&asset=14027245553053047036 timestamp=16663451 http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getAskOrder&order=12723782891583851504
...
http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getTrades&asset=9793548316182050576 timestamp=14490672 http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getAskOrder&order=9819437091123559436
http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getTrades&asset=9793548316182050576 timestamp=14757232 http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getAskOrder&order=9819437091123559436

all resulting in {"errorDescription":"Unknown order","errorCode":5}

What to do?

TLDR; Why do I do this?
The v1.2.9 "getTrade" does not mention the "seller" (like the v1.4.16 does, with every trade),
so I download the "askOrder" that is mentioned in the trade,
by "getAskOrder", because that contains "account"
- and thus the "seller".

Or is there another strategy?

Thx!

getAskOrder only returns open orders. The order with "no problems" are not fully fulfilled orders.

The askOrder 16959519049444729662 in your first example is still an open order.
The askOrder has a quantity of 850:
http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getAskOrder&order=16959519049444729662

Code:

{"height":75162,"priceNQT":"5000000000","asset":"10655238247608520102","order":"16959519049444729662","quantityQNT":"850","accountRS":"NHZ-VJXK-XC8S-EEHX-44LGE","account":"2754587697255138225","type":"ask"}

The trade had a quantity of 150:
http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getTrades&asset=10655238247608520102 timestamp=7821230

Code:

{"trades":[{"timestamp":7821230,"priceNQT":"5000000000","asset":"10655238247608520102","quantityQNT":"150","block":"2622721914868268879","askOrder":"16959519049444729662","bidOrder":"18370219278164694793"}]}

If you want a fulfilled order then you could parse the transaction with transactionId=orderId.

[altsheets]

getAskOrder only returns open orders.

Thanks a million, MaWo, for looking into this!
I was "running with a correct map ... into a wrong direction" :-)

If you want a fulfilled order then you could parse the transaction with transactionId=orderId.

Yes, that was the solution. So easy, now that I know ...

And Jean-Luc was only 11.5 hours quicker :-)

I had found his answer first, and had already implemented the solution ... before I found your answer here.

Still, thanks a lot. All but one of my questions are solved. To avoid another replication, I am linking to
my remaining very simple question ("numberOfTransfers") there: "Last question ... one last mini-workaround for ..."

 

[kprell40]

  To let you know  the Horizon Forgers Chart & Horizon Nodes Chart Are not Loading .

[Pizpie]

  To let you know  the Horizon Forgers Chart & Horizon Nodes Chart Are not Loading .

https://explorer.horizonplatform.io/?page=graphs&graph=nodes
https://explorer.horizonplatform.io/?page=graphs&graph=forgers

Both loading fine. (I'm on Chrome)

[haggis]

  To let you know  the Horizon Forgers Chart & Horizon Nodes Chart Are not Loading .

https://explorer.horizonplatform.io/?page=graphs&graph=nodes
https://explorer.horizonplatform.io/?page=graphs&graph=forgers

Both loading fine. (I'm on Chrome)

Not loading on Firefox 36.0.1

"NetworkError: 404 Not Found - https://horizonplatform.io/js/jquery.min.js"
jquery.min.js
TypeError: $ is not a function
   

$("table").addClass("table table-striped table-condensed").wrap('<div class="tab...

   
?page=g...h=nodes (Zeile 629, Spalte 2)
TypeError: $ is not a function
   

$("#graphlinks").show();

   
?page=g...h=nodes (Zeile 561, Spalte 4)

[waecrum]

  To let you know  the Horizon Forgers Chart & Horizon Nodes Chart Are not Loading .

https://explorer.horizonplatform.io/?page=graphs&graph=nodes
https://explorer.horizonplatform.io/?page=graphs&graph=forgers

Both loading fine. (I'm on Chrome)

Not loading on Firefox 36.0.1

"NetworkError: 404 Not Found - https://horizonplatform.io/js/jquery.min.js"
jquery.min.js
TypeError: $ is not a function
   

$("table").addClass("table table-striped table-condensed").wrap('<div class="tab...

   
?page=g...h=nodes (Zeile 629, Spalte 2)
TypeError: $ is not a function
   

$("#graphlinks").show();

   
?page=g...h=nodes (Zeile 561, Spalte 4)

Both loading fine for me. with Firefox 36.0.4

[altsheets]

Hey,
probably an easy-to-answer question, just a detail:

Is
--> issuer --> account --> unconfirmedAssetBalances --> unconfirmedBalanceQNT
the relevant number which tells me how many assetQNTs the issuer still has left?

... even though it is called "unconfirmed"? 

A bit confusing, I would expect it not to be 'unconfirmedAssetBalances' but to be 'assetBalances' - but it is not.

The details of this question are over there.

Thankx :-)

[altsheets]

...
The details of this question are over there.
...

I got this answer:

the difference is unconfirmed balance takes into account transactions not yet included in the blockchain.
whether to use unconfirmed balance or not kind of depends on what you want to do. Normally I'd just use balanceNQT

Yes, this is what I had thought and done.

But then ... why are those ~180 days old trades not in the HZ blockchain?

The assetBalances of the HZ account 14690932713833726002 are somehow odd, no?

[MaWo]

...
The details of this question are over there.
...

I got this answer:

the difference is unconfirmed balance takes into account transactions not yet included in the blockchain.
whether to use unconfirmed balance or not kind of depends on what you want to do. Normally I'd just use balanceNQT

Yes, this is what I had thought and done.

But then ... why are those ~180 days old trades not in the HZ blockchain?

http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getTrades&asset=9159194210388607784

Code:

{"trades":[{"timestamp":15896351,"priceNQT":"1000000","asset":"9159194210388607784","quantityQNT":"90000000","block":"8058469647614708251","askOrder":"7349714608031574375","bidOrder":"13089510987080492981"},{"timestamp":15896012,"priceNQT":"1000000","asset":"9159194210388607784","quantityQNT":"8900000","block":"4399655451629255954","askOrder":"7349714608031574375","bidOrder":"9094214114266165253"},{"timestamp":15895523,"priceNQT":"1000000","asset":"9159194210388607784","quantityQNT":"100000","block":"9473206872598901371","askOrder":"7349714608031574375","bidOrder":"8930946003321464840"}]}

I can find all 3 transactions:
http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getTransaction&transaction=13089510987080492981
http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getTransaction&transaction=9094214114266165253
http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getTransaction&transaction=8930946003321464840

The assetBalances of the HZ account 14690932713833726002 are somehow odd, no?

Looks good for me.
There is an open ask order:
http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getAskOrders&asset=9159194210388607784

ask order quantity is 401000000

1000000000−401000000=599000000

[tomoto]

Price of hzxchange is growing  asset id 17828408937649813496 its now at 65 in buying order and selling order 99.

It seem there are more buyers than sellers dont see why people will sell now.

[martismartis]

Price of hzxchange is growing  asset id 17828408937649813496 its now at 65 in buying order and selling order 99.

It seem there are more buyers than sellers dont see why people will sell now.

"This asset represents 100% of the fees generated by the different HZx assets. Payouts are processed weekly. Visit the official Horizon forum or join HZxchange on facebook for more information"

Did somebody get any payouts from this asset? I didn't.

[cryptoangel]

Price of hzxchange is growing  asset id 17828408937649813496 its now at 65 in buying order and selling order 99.

It seem there are more buyers than sellers dont see why people will sell now.

"This asset represents 100% of the fees generated by the different HZx assets. Payouts are processed weekly. Visit the official Horizon forum or join HZxchange on facebook for more information"

Did somebody get any payouts from this asset? I didn't.

I don't even understand it to be honest. I just invested a small amount I would not care if I lost .

Hopefully a good investment  .

[romawi]

Price of hzxchange is growing  asset id 17828408937649813496 its now at 65 in buying order and selling order 99.

It seem there are more buyers than sellers dont see why people will sell now.

"This asset represents 100% of the fees generated by the different HZx assets. Payouts are processed weekly. Visit the official Horizon forum or join HZxchange on facebook for more information"

Did somebody get any payouts from this asset? I didn't.

Quoted from HZxchange group in facebook: Estimated launch in the beginning of April

[tomoto]

 
"This asset represents 100% of the fees generated by the different HZx assets. Payouts are processed weekly. Visit the official Horizon forum or join HZxchange on facebook for more information"

Some explications:

You will get payout each week when it will be ready. Today its in test but soon it will work and you will get payout from market fee.

Mean when someone will deposit to market to buy asset (not only hz asset but a lot of asset btc asset nxt asset hz asset doge asset ....), or withdraw from the market after selling asset there will be some fee about 0.5% to 1%.

After each week if you own hzxchange assets you will be paid with all other hzxchange holders.


For example someone want to buy asset named xft (example it doesnt exist).

he will deposit 1 000 000 hz in the market to buy this asset.

From this 1 000 000 deposit in the market the fee will be 1% or 0.5% (fee will be fix after test) so about 10 000 hz in fee

if i own 10% of the hzxchange assets i will win 10 000 X 0.1 so 1000 hz after a week.


Its the same example for the seller of the asset.

The man is selling for 1 000 000 hz of asset in the market he will pay 0.5% (5000hz) or 1% (10000hz) to take back this 1 000 000 coin to his wallet.

That only mean if there are lot of people depositing for buying assets or doing withdrawal after selling asset more important will be the fee and the reward for hzxchange asset owner.


Imagine if each week people are using assets, we can hope for lot of fee returns.

It can be really interesting to own assets cause there are only 1 000 000 hzxchange created.
With 10 000 hzxchange asset you own about 1% of the asset.

You can still own asset for a low price about 65 to 80 horizon by asset (im not sure the price will remain the same during weeks, it will probably go up a lot more if it work well).

More asset you have more you will be paid by weekly payout.

[Nxtblg]

"This asset represents 100% of the fees generated by the different HZx assets. Payouts are processed weekly. Visit the official Horizon forum or join HZxchange on facebook for more information"

Some explications:

You will get payout each week when it will be ready. Today its in test but soon it will work and you will get payout from market fee.

Mean when someone will deposit to market to buy asset (not only hz asset but a lot of asset btc asset nxt asset hz asset doge asset ....), or withdraw from the market after selling asset there will be some fee about 0.5% to 1%.

How do (or will) those deposits and withdrawals work, from the customer side of things?

[romawi]

When will  the forum be back online?

[Pizpie]

When will  the forum be back online?

Soon.

[romawi]

When will  the forum be back online?

Soon.

Thats funny, it sounds as we are saying here: mañana    

[altsheets]

Thanks a lot MaWo, for looking into this.

There is an open ask order:
http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getAskOrders&asset=9159194210388607784
ask order quantity is 401000000
1000000000−401000000=599000000

Ah, good to know.
That's where the {unconfirmedBalanceQNT: "599000000", asset: "9159194210388607784"} in his 'getAccount' is coming from.

So when an ask order is created, the full amount of the whole ask order is subtracted, and leads to unconfirmedBalanceQNT.

Good, cool, I get that. Thanks!!


But that has not answered my question - or has it?

...
The details of this question are over there.
...

I can find all 3 transactions:
http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getTransaction&transaction=13089510987080492981
http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getTransaction&transaction=9094214114266165253
http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getTransaction&transaction=8930946003321464840

Yes.

But the totals of these (half a year old!) trades are not reflected in the issuer's balance <-- is what is confusing me.

The issuer 14690932713833726002 of asset 9159194210388607784

has issued quantityQNT: "1000000000" with decimals: 2,
so 10,000,000.00 = 10 million assets

Then -in those 3 transactions- he sold
quantityQNT: "90000000"
quantityQNT: "8900000"
quantityQNT: "100000"
sumQNT = 99000000
so he has sold 990,000.00 assets,

In my world, he should have 9,010,000.00 assets left:
balanceQNT = 1000000000 - 90000000 - 8900000 - 100000 = 901000000

but his account shows that he still (or again?) has
balanceQNT = 1000000000
of this asset


http://localhost:7776/nhz?requestType=getAccount&account=14690932713833726002

Code:

...
assetBalances: [2]
0:  {
balanceQNT: "1000000000"
asset: "9159194210388607784"
...

Where is the flaw in my thinking?