.

[Pizpie]

we need big WHALE BUY WALLS

No, we need more attention.

Merging NAS into HZ can bring all the old NAS holders.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=523187.msg12771565#msg12771565

This would be a good idea

There would be no coins left for an exchange. If the community and developers wanted to talk about migrating to Horizon, that would be a possibility.

[NASdaq]

we need big WHALE BUY WALLS

No, we need more attention.

Merging NAS into HZ can bring all the old NAS holders.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=523187.msg12771565#msg12771565

This would be a good idea

NAS was a scam from the start, then big bag holders pumped it with shameful forum give-aways before dumping into the toilet. NAS initial distribution was one of the worst in crypto history, and that history can only hurt HORIZON, which probably has one of the best distributions in crypto.

Why should HORIZON flirt with NAS at this late stage? Stay away from NAS!!!

[Pizpie]

we need big WHALE BUY WALLS

No, we need more attention.

Merging NAS into HZ can bring all the old NAS holders.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=523187.msg12771565#msg12771565

This would be a good idea

NAS was a scam from the start, then big bag holders pumped it with shameful forum give-aways before dumping into the toilet. NAS initial distribution was one of the worst in crypto history, and that history can only hurt HORIZON, which probably has one of the best distributions in crypto.

Why should HORIZON flirt with NAS at this late stage? Stay away from NAS!!!

Thanks for the history lesson, and saving me some time! 

[mruk]

Can anyone in simple and clear words to explain what the mining "forging" of this coin?
  I have a web wallet and bought the first 253.10615386 coin.
 From how many coins will start with "forging"?
 Is there a calculator?

[ifinta]

Can anyone in simple and clear words to explain what the mining "forging" of this coin?
  I have a web wallet and bought the first 253.10615386 coin.
 From how many coins will start with "forging"?
 Is there a calculator?

I am a beginner to...
I forge with a debian sbc (udoo quad). I have no experience with web wallet.
I forged with this sbc ~4200 NHZ since 10/28/2015.
My balance is currently ~21000000 NHZ.

[Pizpie]

Can anyone in simple and clear words to explain what the mining "forging" of this coin?
  I have a web wallet and bought the first 253.10615386 coin.
 From how many coins will start with "forging"?
 Is there a calculator?

With a low amount of coins, I would take a look at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syl_338WzlE

You can start forging with any amount of coins. The amount of coins you are forging with dictates your likelihood of forging a block and collecting the fees inside.
With pooled forging though, you lend your balance to a pool, and are given a cut of the pools forging based on the % you contribute to that pool.

[ifinta]

It seems to be released... (hz-v5.2)
Only ~24 hour to planned fork.
I start to try it with real-net.  

Code:

ifinta@debian-imx6:~/hz-source$ git tag
hz-v3.9
hz-v3.9.1
hz-v3.9.2
hz-v4.0e
hz-v4.0e-revoked
hz-v5.2
ifinta@debian-imx6:~/hz-source$ git checkout hz-v5.2
Note: checking out 'hz-v5.2'.

You are in 'detached HEAD' state. You can look around, make experimental
changes and commit them, and you can discard any commits you make in this
state without impacting any branches by performing another checkout.

If you want to create a new branch to retain commits you create, you may
do so (now or later) by using -b with the checkout command again. Example:

  git checkout -b new_branch_name

HEAD is now at e36d91f... Merge branch 'master' into develop
ifinta@debian-imx6:~/hz-source$ ./compile.sh 
Note: src/java/nxt/http/APIServlet.java uses or overrides a deprecated API.
Note: Recompile with -Xlint:deprecation for details.
Note: Some input files use unchecked or unsafe operations.
Note: Recompile with -Xlint:unchecked for details.
Horizon class files compiled successfully
ifinta@debian-imx6:~/hz-source$ ./run.sh 
Initializing Horizon server version NHZ V5.2
isHeadless=true
Loading nhz-default.properties from classpath
Loading nhz.properties from classpath
Loading logging-default.properties from classpath
2015-11-16 20:33:17 INFO: nhz.enableStackTraces = "true"
2015-11-16 20:33:17 INFO: nhz.enableLogTraceback = "false"
2015-11-16 20:33:17 INFO: logging enabled
2015-11-16 20:33:17 INFO: socksProxyHost not defined
2015-11-16 20:33:17 INFO: socksProxyPort not defined
[b]2015-11-16 20:33:17 INFO: nhz.isTestnet = "false"[/b]
2015-11-16 20:33:17 INFO: nhz.isOffline = "false"
2015-11-16 20:33:17 INFO: nhz.dontForge = "false"
2015-11-16 20:33:17 INFO: nhz.maxRollback = "1441"
2015-11-16 20:33:17 INFO: nhz.forgingDelay = "20"
2015-11-16 20:33:17 INFO: nhz.forgingSpeedup = "3"
2015-11-16 20:33:17 INFO: nhz.maxPrunableLifetime = "0"
2015-11-16 20:33:17 INFO: nhz.includeExpiredPrunable = "false"
2015-11-16 20:33:17 INFO: nhz.statementLogThreshold = "10000"
2015-11-16 20:33:17 INFO: nhz.transactionLogThreshold = "15000"
2015-11-16 20:33:17 INFO: nhz.transactionLogInterval = "15"
2015-11-16 20:33:17 INFO: nhz.dbCacheKB = "0"
2015-11-16 20:33:17 INFO: nhz.dbUrl = "jdbc:h2:nhz_db/nhz;DB_CLOSE_ON_EXIT=FALSE;MVCC=TRUE"
2015-11-16 20:33:17 INFO: nhz.dbType = "h2"
2015-11-16 20:33:17 INFO: nhz.dbDir = "nhz_db/nhz"
2015-11-16 20:33:17 INFO: nhz.dbParams = "DB_CLOSE_ON_EXIT=FALSE;MVCC=TRUE"
2015-11-16 20:33:17 INFO: nhz.dbUsername = "sa"
2015-11-16 20:33:17 INFO: nhz.dbPassword = "{not logged}"
2015-11-16 20:33:17 INFO: nhz.maxDbConnections = "30"
2015-11-16 20:33:17 INFO: nhz.dbLoginTimeout = "70"
2015-11-16 20:33:17 INFO: nhz.dbDefaultLockTimeout = "60"
2015-11-16 20:33:21 INFO: Database update may take a while if needed, current db version 230...

[martismartis]

Will node checker recognize v5.2 and node bounties will be paid for nodes running 5.2?

[ifinta]

Will node checker recognize v5.2 and node bounties will be paid for nodes running 5.2?

I think it should be paid.
I become no bounties (one day), if I transfer some HZ to my account. (I think this is a bug in bot...)
If I made no transaction for a day - bounties will be payed...

[Pizpie]

Will node checker recognize v5.2 and node bounties will be paid for nodes running 5.2?

Once it is released, yes.

[ifinta]

Will node checker recognize v5.2 and node bounties will be paid for nodes running 5.2?

Once it is released, yes.

I think it is released. You can pull it from github, and it works. I forged some HZ with it - you can see it:

[Pizpie]

It is very close for a wide release, yes. We have not pasted it around yet, as we are taking a fine comb through a couple things. 

[GoldenEye]

about every 2nd node received no payment today 

[ifinta]

about every 2nd node received no payment today 

Where is the source of this script? Is it open-source?
("Fair Distribution" => should be open-source...)

[Pizpie]

about every 2nd node received no payment today 

Where is the source of this script? Is it open-source?
("Fair Distribution" => should be open-source...)

It was created by CBKR and is not open source as it is unique to Horizon for distribution.

[Pizpie]

about every 2nd node received no payment today 

What version are they running?

[ifinta]

about every 2nd node received no payment today 

Where is the source of this script? Is it open-source?
("Fair Distribution" => should be open-source...)

It was created by CBKR and is not open source as it is unique to Horizon for distribution.

I think - it is buggy. Please publish it as open-source (without private keys!). Github preferred. We (the HZ community) can review it, and correct, if it is open-source.
Recently is the "bounties" rather a gambling, and not a "fair distribution".

I think also - this bug does not depend on NRS Version, what the Node uses. It is simple bug(s) in script.
I would like to help... But without source?

[Pizpie]

about every 2nd node received no payment today 

Where is the source of this script? Is it open-source?
("Fair Distribution" => should be open-source...)

It was created by CBKR and is not open source as it is unique to Horizon for distribution.

I think - it is buggy. Please publish it as open-source (without private keys!). Github preferred. We (the HZ community) can review it, and correct, if it is open-source.
Recently is the "bounties" rather a gambling, and not a "fair distribution".

I think also - this bug does not depend on NRS Version, what the Node uses. It is simple bug(s) in script.
I would like to help... But without source?

I disagree with you here. We have over 1.5 years of records of a fair distribution model, and any issue that has come up with the nodes has always been resolved. CBKR has stated several times that he did not wish to make that code public, and nor myself or anyone else will push him to do so. If he wants to make it open source, that will be his decision.
I will forward him along this conversation, and he can come to his own decision. 
It is possible there is a bug, as there have been in the past which were resolved.

[Pizpie]

At long last, the next client update is available for the public!
We have also added a .exe installer to make installing Horizon less of a technical hassle. Also, keep in mind that the latest version of Horizon will require you to update to Java 8.

Please note that the installer does include JRE8 in it!

This update will force a hard fork at block # 515,000
You will also need to update your nodes by this block to the current version to continue receiving bounties as long as distribution continues.

We have a lot of other projects and news that will be dropping in the coming weeks to follow, so stay tuned to see what we have been working on all this time, and  will be rolling out next. It's been a long time in the making, and we are very excited to finally release them to the public and focus on the next chapter for Horizon.

With distribution near completion, our focus moving forward for Horizon will be getting more people involved and using the platform, with an emphasis on the foundation that was set up a couple months back. We will continue to update the client, but our focus now turns to getting more people involved, and exposure for the platform. The platform infrastructure, and long standing reputation of the project will serve as a basis for further asset development and new partnerships with businesses to take Horizon to the mainstream public.

Thanks to everyone who has stuck around over the past year. Join us while we take the next step in the blockchain revolution.

You can download it here: https://github.com/NeXTHorizon/hz-source/releases/tag/hz-v5.2

[ifinta]

Fine. Thank you