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[l8_8l]

I just noticed this message from march 26 2016: "HZxchange is relaunching these days, starting with some trusted assets and re-adding the coins that were listed before one by one."

It has been around for a few years I think; and you can buy equity or shares of the exchange on the horizon blockchain under asset id #: 17828408937649813496


anyhow thought i would give you guys a heads up:

About:

HZxCHANGE is a distributed cryptocurrency exchange on the Horizon Platform.

Unlike traditional exchanges, where trading takes place on servers connected to the wallets used for storage, HZxCHANGE uses the Horizon blockchain instead. As well as being much more secure, it's also totally transparent and trades can be verified by anybody.

All transactions are signed in your browser, the passphrase is never sent to a remote server. Your funds are stored on a multisig address, making it impossible for a single admin to run away with a wallet. The signatures are held by well-known and trusted members of the HZ (or the coin's) community. There's no public facing server a hacker could target, and even if he finds one that's not enough to get access to any coin. The asset balances are snapshotted regularly, so if someone breaches the issuers account we'll just switch to another asset.

HZxchange still is a proof of concept. A lot of manual work is needed to add and maintain coins. There are plans to automate all those processes and end up with a real decentralized exchange, but it will take a lot of effort to reach that. If you are a coder or an investor and want to help making it happen, contact pharesim at HZFoundation Slack

[altsheets]

HZ holders - - call to action

I have created an open door ... with a chance for HZ to get included into the project



~ "Crypto OS" for RaspberryPi tiny computers

... have a look:

[...] I did send an invitation to HZ team to get integrated into the system [...]

A phasing transaction was created to pay for ROKOS integration.

Up to 4M HZ (1 BTC) will be sold
when holders with a total of 200M approved.

If you want to approve, search for
transaction ID 17360318482821505195 in block 605487,
go to actions and click approve.

Phasing ends at block 615k

(line breaks, color, size added by me)

... Thanks for setting that up! Make sure to vote if you are a holder!  

... Reminder image (via @chaincountdown):

Some explanations about this:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=823785.msg14125765#msg14125765 and
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1084908.msg13895420#msg13895420 ...

...

I have voted by following your directions, and hope other HZ holders will too! How was 200M chosen?
It seems rather a lot. And is there a good way to track the progress of voting? Thanks!

~360M are on exchanges, 40M in the foundation, makes 600M which could vote.
This is the first time we use this method, and as it's about 10% of the foundations' funds
we didn't want to set the number too low. If it fails, and we didn't hear voices against the integration,
we can try again with a lower value. But it's looking good so far, 94M approved already.
You can check the status by logging in with the HZFoundation alias
(at the login screen, remove the NHZ-**** preset with backspace and type it there).

... Approved. Sorry for the delay!

About 5000 blocks left, approval is at ~56%

Did anyone not approve for a reason, please tell us here. Until now there's only been positive feedback, so when it isn't approved we'll assume that the threshold may have been too high.

If you didn't approve by now, or know someone who didn't, please make up your mind if you think an integration into ROKOSOS would be a good thing, and if so approve it:
Log in to your account, use the search box in the top left corner to find transaction 17360318482821505195 and approve in the actions tab.

If you have all your HZ on an exchange, please send them to a wallet,
approve the transaction, and send them back. Yes, it takes a few minutes.
But perhaps when you reflect about it ... you realize that it is worth it.

Thanks.

P.S.: I am not affiliated with ROKOS in any way, I just think that project is really useful.

[duncan_idaho]

HZ holders - - call to action

I have created an open door ... with a chance for HZ to get included into the project



~ "Crypto OS" for RaspberryPi tiny computers

... have a look:

[...] I did send an invitation to HZ team to get integrated into the system [...]

A phasing transaction was created to pay for ROKOS integration.

Up to 4M HZ (1 BTC) will be sold
when holders with a total of 200M approved.

If you want to approve, search for
transaction ID 17360318482821505195 in block 605487,
go to actions and click approve.

Phasing ends at block 615k

(line breaks, color, size added by me)

... Thanks for setting that up! Make sure to vote if you are a holder!  

... Reminder image (via @chaincountdown):

Some explanations about this:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=823785.msg14125765#msg14125765 and
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1084908.msg13895420#msg13895420 ...

...

I have voted by following your directions, and hope other HZ holders will too! How was 200M chosen?
It seems rather a lot. And is there a good way to track the progress of voting? Thanks!

~360M are on exchanges, 40M in the foundation, makes 600M which could vote.
This is the first time we use this method, and as it's about 10% of the foundations' funds
we didn't want to set the number too low. If it fails, and we didn't hear voices against the integration,
we can try again with a lower value. But it's looking good so far, 94M approved already.
You can check the status by logging in with the HZFoundation alias
(at the login screen, remove the NHZ-**** preset with backspace and type it there).

... Approved. Sorry for the delay!

About 5000 blocks left, approval is at ~56%

Did anyone not approve for a reason, please tell us here. Until now there's only been positive feedback, so when it isn't approved we'll assume that the threshold may have been too high.

If you didn't approve by now, or know someone who didn't, please make up your mind if you think an integration into ROKOSOS would be a good thing, and if so approve it:
Log in to your account, use the search box in the top left corner to find transaction 17360318482821505195 and approve in the actions tab.

If you have all your HZ on an exchange, please send them to a wallet,
approve the transaction, and send them back. Yes, it takes a few minutes.
But perhaps when you reflect about it ... you realize that it is worth it.

Thanks.

P.S.: I am not affiliated with ROKOS in any way, I just think that project is really useful.

done.

[quasimodo]

Also approved.

[altsheets]

New Service for HZ !...
Try the new: Email notification service ...
... new domain ...  arguseyes.net

EDITED: new domain name, and HZ donation address

[Coinmin]

New Service for HZ !...
Try the new: Email notification service ...
... new domain ...  arguseyes.net

EDITED: new domain name, and HZ donation address

You are great man! Do you know about that?

[altsheets]

I wanted to measure the new blocktimes of NXT, and wrote a script, which I have now run on HZ:

Average block times

HZ Genesis was 741.9 days ago.
Current block height 612782 at timestamp 64101964.

Code:

  blocks ago    height    timestamp    seconds  seconds per block
------------  --------  -----------  ---------  -------------------
           0    612782     64101964          0
           1    612781     64101954         10  10.0
           3    612779     64101786        178  59.3
          10    612772     64101074        890  89.0
          31    612751     64098893       3071  99.1
         100    612682     64091854      10110  101.1
         316    612466     64066540      35424  112.1
        1000    611782     63994599     107365  107.4
        3162    609620     63767445     334519  105.8
       10000    602782     63025220    1076744  107.7
       31622    581160     60733006    3368958  106.5
      100000    512782     53622846   10479118  104.8
      200000    412782     43027958   21074006  105.4
      300000    312782     32417643   31684321  105.6
      400000    212782     22000727   42101237  105.3
      500000    112782     11706873   52395091  104.8
      600000     12782      1211779   62890185  104.8
                     0            0   64101964  104.6

Not much news for anyone, I admit that. Block time was and is ~ 1min45seconds.

But important to know if you want to predict future blocktimes.

Which I am in my little useful toy ChainCountDown, last used to generate the phasingTx reminder image here.

 

[Krista]

Long time not seen. Interesting things happening here.

[CRYPTONAIRE]

ROKOS appeal approved! 

[Pizpie]

We submitted our PR for Azure yesterday. Zen (from Blocknet community) is handling this for us in between his day job, so it could be a few days, but this is the first step! 
https://github.com/Azure/azure-quickstart-templates/pulls

CI build complete.

[Nxtblg]

We submitted our PR for Azure yesterday. Zen (from Blocknet community) is handling this for us in between his day job, so it could be a few days, but this is the first step! 
https://github.com/Azure/azure-quickstart-templates/pulls

CI build complete.

Thanks! All this with Horizon holding up at the high 30s.

[altsheets]

Received block 15916107914199152902 from the future

Code:

2016-04-04 13:47:57 WARNING: Received block 15916107914199152902 from the future, block timestamp is 64244857, current time is 64243536, system clock may be off
2016-04-04 13:47:58 WARNING: Received block 15916107914199152902 from the future, block timestamp is 64244857, current time is 64243537, system clock may be off
2016-04-04 13:48:01 WARNING: Received block 15916107914199152902 from the future, block timestamp is 64244857, current time is 64243540, system clock may be off
2016-04-04 13:48:05 WARNING: Received block 15916107914199152902 from the future, block timestamp is 64244857, current time is 64243544, system clock may be off
2016-04-04 13:48:06 WARNING: Received block 15916107914199152902 from the future, block timestamp is 64244857, current time is 64243545, system clock may be off
2016-04-04 13:48:10 WARNING: Received block 15916107914199152902 from the future, block timestamp is 64244857, current time is 64243549, system clock may be off
2016-04-04 13:48:13 WARNING: Received block 15916107914199152902 from the future, block timestamp is 64244857, current time is 64243551, system clock may be off
2016-04-04 13:48:16 WARNING: Received block 15916107914199152902 from the future, block timestamp is 64244857, current time is 64243554, system clock may be off
2016-04-04 13:48:17 WARNING: Received block 15916107914199152902 from the future, block timestamp is 64244857, current time is 64243555, system clock may be off
2016-04-04 13:48:19 WARNING: Received block 15916107914199152902 from the future, block timestamp is 64244857, current time is 64243558, system clock may be off
2016-04-04 13:48:21 WARNING: Received block 15916107914199152902 from the future, block timestamp is 64244857, current time is 64243559, system clock may be off

I have double and triple checked, and updated my time from time.nist.gov, etc. - my system clock is correct.

64244857 - 64243559 = 1298

1298 seconds ~ 22 minutes


Searching for id 15916107914199152902 inside the wallet leads to no results.

The block explorer's last block is at height 614133 at 2016-04-04 11:35:29 UTC.

My own wallet is stuck at height 614013 at 4/4/2016 10:31:07

[altsheets]

Here is a new one:

Code:

2016-04-04 13:58:02 WARNING: Received block 1404984029841997228 from the future, block timestamp is 64244656, current time is 64244141, system clock may be off
2016-04-04 13:58:09 WARNING: Received block 1404984029841997228 from the future, block timestamp is 64244656, current time is 64244147, system clock may be off
2016-04-04 13:58:11 WARNING: Received block 1404984029841997228 from the future, block timestamp is 64244656, current time is 64244150, system clock may be off

...


64244656 - 64244141 = 515 seconds = 8.6 minutes.


EDIT: and another one:

Code:

2016-04-04 14:06:29 WARNING: Received block 2109494211988400058 from the future, block timestamp is 64245189, current time is 64244647, system clock may be off

64245189 - 64244647 = 542 seconds = 9.03 minutes



EDIT:

What is the algorithm to find agreement on the network time?

I suppose there is some majority rule in it?
If yes, then there is a non-neglectable numbers of nodes running on the wrong system time - right?


Just an idea: Is it possible that many new Azure (or Rokos) nodes have been started - and they are all way off in their system time?

[altsheets]

Now it all seems cool again - last block height is 614143 at 2016-04-04 12:12:25 UTC;
and the block explorer is back on track, too.

What happened there? -->

Received block 15916107914199152902 from the future ...

?


EDIT:

None of the three mentioned blocks are in the chain

15916107914199152902
2109494211988400058
1404984029841997228

EDIT: since then seen these ones too:

3909407368872076979
5384821555563648145
5050630628020782319

But none could be found with http://localhost:7776/test?requestTag=BLOCKS

So nothing has happened really. "Move along folks, nothing to see here"  

I was just alerted because the HZ NRS output is usually super quiet. So I thought if something is happening in there and even gets repeated dozens of times ... that it might be important. And then the chain was stuck for a long time locally, and also on the block explorer.

But right now it looks as if really nothing has happened. Seemingly "someone from the future" was able to forge 3 6 blocks, but then they did not get into the chain, so ... the "Days of Future Past" have never really happened, and "only Logan will remember" ;-)

[pharesim]

The transaction for ROKOS integration has been approved. I tested if the Foundation account itself can vote, and that's possible. Without that, 233M have given their vote. That's an amazing result!
Nobody spoke out against, so it should be safe to use 250M as 100% for future decisions. This means that small amounts can be approved with >125M (50%) while bigger ones need >187.5M (75%).

3.1M HZ have been sold for 1 BTC, the remaining 900k will be sent back to the Foundation. We still need some graphics for the ROKOS team to start working, they should be available in a couple of days (James is in hospital right now). If you're a graphics guy, want to speed up that process and leave a mark in ROKOS, you can create a HD wallpaper for us to give them.

[OKorator]

Awesome-Rokos-Horizon  Good stuff 

[Nxtblg]

A Serious Question:

As you may know, Lisk has gone bananas thanks to Yobit opening up an artificial market for trading Lisk IOUs that are backed by Yobit's own ICO purchase. In form, it's like an Asset and of course it requires trusting Yobit.

I bought a small amount of Lisk myself in the ICO. Since I was put up to issuing an IOTA Asset pre-release, an "IOU of an IOU" as someone called it, I want to ask the Horizon community:

Do you want me to do the same for Lisk? Would there be any demand for an HZLisk Asset backed by one of my ICO accounts?

Please bear in mind, anyone who would buy it would have to wait along with me for Lisk's release. I can't redeem an HZLisk Asset until the mainnet release date. So, any buyer of it would not only have to trust me but also would have to be patient. Given this temporary freezing, my issue price would be well below Yobit's price to compensate for the wait. That discount would be in addition to a sizable discount because I think the Yobit price is too high to be sustainable.

At least two Nxters have issued Assets on the Nxt system that are like the above proposal. They have huge discounts wrt Yobit's crazy-high price, and I would too.

As with the IOTA one, this Asset would be for distribution purposes; there'd be a simple sell-wall and then the wait.


What do you think? Any interest? If not, I'll keep twiddling my thumbs and holding on. 

[xibeijan]

Yes

[altsheets]

Yes.

Won't buy myself but I like the AE to be used for cool stuff. Good luck with it!

When you promote it in the Lisk threads, I suggest you include a manual for HZ newbies (see my concise, verbose manuals).

There will actually be time before official trading begins. See this.

[quasimodo]

As you know Nxtblg, i am always open for new assets on Horizon, but this one i will pass. I bought also some at regular ICO and the price is to high at moment. (i dont know your price but at yobit and the other shitexchange (forgot the name, never heard before) is astronomically.

But thanks for your effort.