CCminer(SP-MOD) Modded GPU kernels.

[Amph]

I'm not sure I will do the pascal sp-mod. I think I will move to AMD and 512bit bus. 1070/1080 is not attractive when it comes to price/vs hashrate.

unless you are talking about new amd, current amd line up can not compete on any algo minus etheruem with 1070, not to mention that the 1070 can be improved further and reach a nice 2x hashrate on any algo comapred to 970, eth excluded,

but who care eth is not the only profitable coin...

Current Pascal price/performance seems to be inline with Maxwell for most algos so there's not much incentive
to upgrade yet.

actually no, a 1070 consume only 100w or less and have 50% more hash in any algo(ok no etheruem but i don't care i don't mine for one coin) versus a 970, and this without any tweak i'm sure it can be pushed to 100%

a easy math is telling me that mining now with a 970 instead of a 1070, will only make you lose 40-50 euro a month, for each gpu, this counting the 50% more performance and less consumption, even with cheap energy still around 30 euro are lost each month

so buying a 1070 now for 500 euro, or buying it in 4 months for 380 euro is the same thing....

[sp_]

A reference gtx 970 had a tdp of 145watt
The reference 1070 has a tdp of 150watt

A reference 1080 has a tdp of 185w
A reference 980ti has a tdp of 250w

[Amph]

don't look at the tdp, tdp is telling you nothing, it is known already that a 970 consume 150w, with the lowest power limit, without losing hashrate

the 1070 consume only 90-100w, we have a screen with that guy doing test

i'm sure the 1070 can be pushed to 80-100% more hash than a 1070, right now without any tweaking it's already 40-50% more

at 100% more hash rate with only 100w, it's worth even $450+ easily, no brain actually

[sp_]

100watt mining etherum @ 23mhash. The gtx 970 can do 22mhash.

But for quark@25 mhash it uses more.
I was told Lyra2v2 does around 32.5-34mhash on the 1070 and around 25mhash for quark.

[Amph]

100watt mining etherum @ 23mhash. The gtx 970 can do 22mhash.

But for quark@25 mhash it uses more.
I was told Lyra2v2 does around 32.5-34mhash on the 1070 and around 25mhash for quark.

it's 27 mining etheruem, but like i said, i don't buy a gpu because of one algo, this is not asic, there are other good algo at the moment, not only etheruem

34MH on lyra is good, but i'm fairly certain that you can optimize it to reach 40MH, like you did in the past with 970

[Longsnowsm]

Personally speaking on the 1070/1080 thing it appears patience is a virtue.  All the data I have seen so far does not appear to be an immediate increase in performance over the existing cards in actual hash rates.  It does sound like it is a little more efficient with electricity which is obviously very desirable, but at what cost?  

The reference cards that are shipping are a no go for me.  I will wait for the 3rd party market to offer cards that have adequate cooling, quiet, and are better designed than the reference cards.  Until then it would appear that hanging tight to see what happens isn't bad advise.  I have a couple of reference cards now that I would love to upgrade from as they run hotter, LOUDER, and generally are just not as good at hashing as my other cards.  So I will certainly avoid any reference design cards going forward.

And lastly I am watching for the brilliant guys like SP_, Wolf, Genoil, and our resident coding gurus to say... Hey, looky here!  It won't be that long and possibly will line up with the release of the new AMD cards so we can compare performance.  In the mean time mine away!  Good time to be GPU mining!

[sp_]

1080 tests with power consumption here:

http://cryptomining-blog.com

Etherum,neoscrypt,lyra2re is slow, the rest is fast. Some algos consume 180w( default tdp of the card)

[Amph]

you can lower the tdp at 60% and not losing anything i think, like i can do the same with my 970

they didn't try this apparently, so the consumption could be lower

[sp_]

And they compare with low clocked reference 970/980ti cards running on opensource kernals.

Phew.. My private kernals are still faster on the pimped 980ti:)

Quark:



decred:

[Amph]

well sp they don't have your "private" kernel for a reason, how they can have a private kernel without paying you?....

also you should compare your private work on a 980ti, with your private work on a 1080

assuming you increased some algo to 10-20%, the same will happen for the 1080, so add 20% more on top of that hashrate...

[restless]

This will add to power consumption too.
Remember, no free launch.
X11 used to be the coolest algo for AMD cards, but with Wolf's bins, there was 5x speed increase and 2x power consumption

[crysx]

i have mate - and nothing in there ...

I just sendt you an email without an attachment.. (let's continue the conversation on PM)

ok - kool ...

im just checking everything now ...

tanx ...

#crysx

[sp_]

assuming you increased some algo to 10-20%, the same will happen for the 1080, so add 20% more on top of that hashrate...

This is not the case. I have a few that has tested the "public" private bins, and they are sometimes slower than the opensource.

My buyable private Spreadcoin #9 is up 0.6MHASH on the 1070 and 1MHASH on the 1080 compared to the opensource.
 
1070: 6000 -> 6600
1080: 7500 -> 8500

[bensam1231]

I'm not sure I will do the pascal sp-mod. I think I will move to AMD and 512bit bus. 1070/1080 is not attractive when it comes to price/vs hashrate.

unless you are talking about new amd, current amd line up can not compete on any algo minus etheruem with 1070, not to mention that the 1070 can be improved further and reach a nice 2x hashrate on any algo comapred to 970, eth excluded,

but who care eth is not the only profitable coin...

Current Pascal price/performance seems to be inline with Maxwell for most algos so there's not much incentive
to upgrade yet.

actually no, a 1070 consume only 100w or less and have 50% more hash in any algo(ok no etheruem but i don't care i don't mine for one coin) versus a 970, and this without any tweak i'm sure it can be pushed to 100%

a easy math is telling me that mining now with a 970 instead of a 1070, will only make you lose 40-50 euro a month, for each gpu, this counting the 50% more performance and less consumption, even with cheap energy still around 30 euro are lost each month

so buying a 1070 now for 500 euro, or buying it in 4 months for 380 euro is the same thing....

AND Neoscrypt (half the performance of 970). Those are basically all the algos that are worth mining right now besides Lyra2. CMB did some testing, couple people posted it here. Considering there is only one algo for 1xxx series to mine, expect that one to start dipping down to the other shit algos like blake.

So you're essentially mining for one coin with the 1xxx series.

Not one to hate, but your math in this case is seriously lacking.


In other news, Nicehash really needs a auto-upload mode for their benchmark mode in their miner. Right now, the only place to go to look at GPUs is like here: http://62.212.74.86/~mining/list/index.php?brand=amd

That's a giant list of shit, mixed clocks, versions of sgminer (for instance), multiple GPUs in some cases(!?!?), and you can barely sort it let alone separate it. A bit of automation in this case would be super helpful. I was trying to find some data on the latest versions of sgminer, but it's a shit show.

[giagge]

Spmod #7 lyra2v2 results

standard clocks

980ti (1280 core clock) 35600 (g1 gaming)
970   (1366 core clock) 22600 (g1 gaming)
960  (1350 core clock) 14500 (msi gaming)
750ti (1275 core clock) 6700 (asus strix)

so 970+960 would do around 37100 on 1350mhz core

Both tsiv and djm34 had kernals with the shuffle instruction a few days after the launch. This nicehash kernal has a simple crypt pass to avoid kernal extraction and reverse engineering. So my bet is that it is a private kernal has been used for a long time in binary form before it was bought by nicehash  and spread.

THIS IS NOT MY CARD MSI gtx 1080 Gaming X on lyra2v2 NiceHashMiner.v1.5.1.0



Anyone Know the result for AMD 390X ?

Thanks .

[sp_]

The point is that Etherum is worth $ 1,590,652,810, and million of dollars are given out the miners every day. (estimated $500 000 000 worth of GPU's mining)
Monacoin (lyra2v2 ) is worth $ 2,122,648
Vertcoin (lyra2v2) is worth $ 873,020

and

LyraBar
Verge
Unitus
MobileCash
Zoom

are worth pennies. So even if the 1080 is the fastest card to mine lyra2v2( shitcoins) , it is slow in etherum (This is where the money is right now).

[sp_]

THIS IS NOT MY CARD MSI gtx 1080 Gaming X on lyra2v2 NiceHashMiner.v1.5.1.0

43.6MHASH is good, but I can do 41 MHASH stable on my 980ti.

So the 1080 is only 6.34% faster than a pimped 980ti. (private kernal (sp-mod #7) with overclocking)
You can pick up a used 980ti for half the price of the 1080 on ebay...

The 1080 use around 180Watt and the 980ti use 250Watt.

[pallas]

THIS IS NOT MY CARD MSI gtx 1080 Gaming X on lyra2v2 NiceHashMiner.v1.5.1.0

43.6MHASH is good, but I can do 41 MHASH stable on my 980ti.

So the 1080 is only 6.34% faster than a pimped 980ti. (private kernal (sp-mod #7) with overclocking)
You can pick up a used 980ti for half the price of the 1080 on ebay...

The 1080 use around 180Watt and the 980ti use 250Watt.

the 980ti uses 250 if not overclocked, it will use 300 or more to reach 41 MH/s.
don't compare apples and oranges.

[sp_]

the 980ti uses 250 if not overclocked, it will use 300 or more to reach 41 MH/s.
don't compare apples and oranges.

I need to double check, but I think the lyra2v2 is using less power than the other algos. 
The 1080 is using 176 Watt in lyra2v2 vs 180 Watt in decred so you're probobly right. The 980ti is closer to 300 watt@41mhash

[Amph]

assuming you increased some algo to 10-20%, the same will happen for the 1080, so add 20% more on top of that hashrate...

This is not the case. I have a few that has tested the "public" private bins, and they are sometimes slower than the opensource.

My buyable private Spreadcoin #9 is up 0.6MHASH on the 1070 and 1MHASH on the 1080 compared to the opensource.
 
1070: 6000 -> 6600
1080: 7500 -> 8500

you still need to tweak it for the pascal, you can squeeze some more hash from it

AND Neoscrypt (half the performance of 970). Those are basically all the algos that are worth mining right now besides Lyra2. CMB did some testing, couple people posted it here. Considering there is only one algo for 1xxx series to mine, expect that one to start dipping down to the other shit algos like blake.

So you're essentially mining for one coin with the 1xxx series.

Not one to hate, but your math in this case is seriously lacking.


In other news, Nicehash really needs a auto-upload mode for their benchmark mode in their miner. Right now, the only place to go to look at GPUs is like here: http://62.212.74.86/~mining/list/index.php?brand=amd

That's a giant list of shit, mixed clocks, versions of sgminer (for instance), multiple GPUs in some cases(!?!?), and you can barely sort it let alone separate it. A bit of automation in this case would be super helpful. I was trying to find some data on the latest versions of sgminer, but it's a shit show.

you will never know what the best algo will be for the future, all i know is that i will never mine for one algo, EVER, this si like having an asic, which i hate to death

my math is right, and it is based on my consumption, but you are actually losing money by missing the 50% more hash that a 1070 can give to you right now over the 970 or over any other amd

also what you're talking about when saying "half the performance"? currently a 1070 can mine at 1MH on neoscrypt which is 50% more than a 970, and this without any optimization for pascal