CCminer(SP-MOD) Modded GPU kernels.

[sp_]

assuming you increased some algo to 10-20%, the same will happen for the 1080, so add 20% more on top of that hashrate...

This is not the case. I have a few that has tested the "public" private bins, and they are sometimes slower than the opensource.

My buyable private Spreadcoin #9 is up 0.6MHASH on the 1070 and 1MHASH on the 1080 compared to the opensource.
 
1070: 6000 -> 6600
1080: 7500 -> 8500

you still need to tweak it for the pascal, you can squeeze some more hash from it

I think playing with the -x parameter can give a boost.

[Amph]

assuming you increased some algo to 10-20%, the same will happen for the 1080, so add 20% more on top of that hashrate...

This is not the case. I have a few that has tested the "public" private bins, and they are sometimes slower than the opensource.

My buyable private Spreadcoin #9 is up 0.6MHASH on the 1070 and 1MHASH on the 1080 compared to the opensource.
 
1070: 6000 -> 6600
1080: 7500 -> 8500

you still need to tweak it for the pascal, you can squeeze some more hash from it

I think playing with the -x parameter can give a boost.

i mean from a kernel point of view, pascal it's a new architecture, there should be a considerable boost, with the correct code

did you look at it already?

THIS IS NOT MY CARD MSI gtx 1080 Gaming X on lyra2v2 NiceHashMiner.v1.5.1.0

43.6MHASH is good, but I can do 41 MHASH stable on my 980ti.

So the 1080 is only 6.34% faster than a pimped 980ti. (private kernal (sp-mod #7) with overclocking)
You can pick up a used 980ti for half the price of the 1080 on ebay...

The 1080 use around 180Watt and the 980ti use 250Watt.

you can not compare like this, you optimized like no tomorrow your 980ti, but you didn't the same with the 1080, with optimization a 1080 can probably do 30% more hash than a 980ti, this is basing on the benchmark

not talking about intensity, here talking about rewrite the code for the new architecture that is pascal, which has yet to be unveiled

[bensam1231]

AND Neoscrypt (half the performance of 970). Those are basically all the algos that are worth mining right now besides Lyra2. CMB did some testing, couple people posted it here. Considering there is only one algo for 1xxx series to mine, expect that one to start dipping down to the other shit algos like blake.

So you're essentially mining for one coin with the 1xxx series.

Not one to hate, but your math in this case is seriously lacking.


In other news, Nicehash really needs a auto-upload mode for their benchmark mode in their miner. Right now, the only place to go to look at GPUs is like here: http://62.212.74.86/~mining/list/index.php?brand=amd

That's a giant list of shit, mixed clocks, versions of sgminer (for instance), multiple GPUs in some cases(!?!?), and you can barely sort it let alone separate it. A bit of automation in this case would be super helpful. I was trying to find some data on the latest versions of sgminer, but it's a shit show.

you will never know what the best algo will be for the future, all i know is that i will never mine for one algo, EVER, this si like having an asic, which i hate to death

my math is right, and it is based on my consumption, but you are actually losing money by missing the 50% more hash that a 1070 can give to you right now over the 970 or over any other amd

also what you're talking about when saying "half the performance"? currently a 1070 can mine at 1MH on neoiscrypt which is 50% more than a 970, and this without any optimization for pascal

Lyra2 IS one algo. The other two, NeoS and Dagger, that actually earn money the 1XXX series does not perform well in, actually worse then a 970.

I agree, I'll never mine one algo either... And in this case the 1XXX series only can mine one algo at any sort of meaningful rate. As such, anyone buying one will only mine that algo and we will see equalization with the other algos except Dagger (Ethereum).

Where are you getting your results for the 1070 on Neoscrypt? According to cryptominingblog, the 1080 is doing 357khs on Neoscrypt, which makes sense as both 1XXX have a 256bit bus and are crippled on Dagger. Neoscrypt is also very memory intensive, although not as much as dagger.

http://cryptomining-blog.com/

I also agree you have to think long term, but right now you're going to lose money buying a 1xxx over other cards due to their craptastic hashrate in 2 of the 3 big algos, low availability, and crappy super hiked up prices.

[sp_]

you can not compare like this, you optimized like no tomorrow your 980ti, but you didn't the same with the 1080, with optimization a 1080 can probably do 30% more hash than a 980ti, this is basing on the benchmark
not talking about intensity, here talking about rewrite the code for the new architecture that is pascal, which has yet to be unveiled

True. But I will not do the job.

[Amph]

AND Neoscrypt (half the performance of 970). Those are basically all the algos that are worth mining right now besides Lyra2. CMB did some testing, couple people posted it here. Considering there is only one algo for 1xxx series to mine, expect that one to start dipping down to the other shit algos like blake.

So you're essentially mining for one coin with the 1xxx series.

Not one to hate, but your math in this case is seriously lacking.


In other news, Nicehash really needs a auto-upload mode for their benchmark mode in their miner. Right now, the only place to go to look at GPUs is like here: http://62.212.74.86/~mining/list/index.php?brand=amd

That's a giant list of shit, mixed clocks, versions of sgminer (for instance), multiple GPUs in some cases(!?!?), and you can barely sort it let alone separate it. A bit of automation in this case would be super helpful. I was trying to find some data on the latest versions of sgminer, but it's a shit show.

you will never know what the best algo will be for the future, all i know is that i will never mine for one algo, EVER, this si like having an asic, which i hate to death

my math is right, and it is based on my consumption, but you are actually losing money by missing the 50% more hash that a 1070 can give to you right now over the 970 or over any other amd

also what you're talking about when saying "half the performance"? currently a 1070 can mine at 1MH on neoiscrypt which is 50% more than a 970, and this without any optimization for pascal

Lyra2 IS one algo. The other two, NeoS and Dagger, that actually earn money the 1XXX series does not perform well in, actually worse then a 970.

I agree, I'll never mine one algo either... And in this case the 1XXX series only can mine one algo at any sort of meaningful rate. As such, anyone buying one will only mine that algo and we will see equalization with the other algos except Dagger (Ethereum).

Where are you getting your results for the 1070 on Neoscrypt? According to cryptominingblog, the 1080 is doing 357khs on Neoscrypt, which makes sense as both 1XXX have a 256bit bus and are crippled on Dagger. Neoscrypt is also very memory intensive, although not as much as dagger.

http://cryptomining-blog.com/

I also agree you have to think long term, but right now you're going to lose money buying a 1xxx over other cards due to their craptastic hashrate in 2 of the 3 big algos, low availability, and crappy super hiked up prices.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1464999.msg15059281#msg15059281

i think they are using a worse version, this guy is getting 900 on neoscrypt, but bears in mind that the pascal architecture need a code rewrite to be able to reach full potential

it's not far stretched to think that there will be a 50% boost in the future, on all algo, we just need the coder...

you can not compare like this, you optimized like no tomorrow your 980ti, but you didn't the same with the 1080, with optimization a 1080 can probably do 30% more hash than a 980ti, this is basing on the benchmark
not talking about intensity, here talking about rewrite the code for the new architecture that is pascal, which has yet to be unveiled

True. But I will not do the job.

well that's bad, if we collect some btc maybe you will change your mind? otherwise we need to ask to someone else

[pallas]

Honestly I don't think there is much to do on pascal as compared to maxwell, from the miner point of view.
I hope I'm proven wrong, but we should be happy with that 50% to 80% increase in hash/power ratio.
Excluding ether, of course (neoscrypt just needs to be tuned and lyra2re (v1) is dead).

[vaulter]

AND Neoscrypt (half the performance of 970). Those are basically all the algos that are worth mining right now besides Lyra2. CMB did some testing, couple people posted it here. Considering there is only one algo for 1xxx series to mine, expect that one to start dipping down to the other shit algos like blake.

So you're essentially mining for one coin with the 1xxx series.

Not one to hate, but your math in this case is seriously lacking.


In other news, Nicehash really needs a auto-upload mode for their benchmark mode in their miner. Right now, the only place to go to look at GPUs is like here: http://62.212.74.86/~mining/list/index.php?brand=amd

That's a giant list of shit, mixed clocks, versions of sgminer (for instance), multiple GPUs in some cases(!?!?), and you can barely sort it let alone separate it. A bit of automation in this case would be super helpful. I was trying to find some data on the latest versions of sgminer, but it's a shit show.

you will never know what the best algo will be for the future, all i know is that i will never mine for one algo, EVER, this si like having an asic, which i hate to death

my math is right, and it is based on my consumption, but you are actually losing money by missing the 50% more hash that a 1070 can give to you right now over the 970 or over any other amd

also what you're talking about when saying "half the performance"? currently a 1070 can mine at 1MH on neoiscrypt which is 50% more than a 970, and this without any optimization for pascal

Lyra2 IS one algo. The other two, NeoS and Dagger, that actually earn money the 1XXX series does not perform well in, actually worse then a 970.

I agree, I'll never mine one algo either... And in this case the 1XXX series only can mine one algo at any sort of meaningful rate. As such, anyone buying one will only mine that algo and we will see equalization with the other algos except Dagger (Ethereum).

Where are you getting your results for the 1070 on Neoscrypt? According to cryptominingblog, the 1080 is doing 357khs on Neoscrypt, which makes sense as both 1XXX have a 256bit bus and are crippled on Dagger. Neoscrypt is also very memory intensive, although not as much as dagger.

http://cryptomining-blog.com/

I also agree you have to think long term, but right now you're going to lose money buying a 1xxx over other cards due to their craptastic hashrate in 2 of the 3 big algos, low availability, and crappy super hiked up prices.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1464999.msg15059281#msg15059281

i think they are using a worse version, this guy is getting 900 on neoscrypt, but bears in mind that the pascal architecture need a code rewrite to be able to reach full potential

it's not far stretched to think that there will be a 50% boost in the future, on all algo, we just need the coder...

you can not compare like this, you optimized like no tomorrow your 980ti, but you didn't the same with the 1080, with optimization a 1080 can probably do 30% more hash than a 980ti, this is basing on the benchmark
not talking about intensity, here talking about rewrite the code for the new architecture that is pascal, which has yet to be unveiled

True. But I will not do the job.

well that's bad, if we collect some btc maybe you will change your mind? otherwise we need to ask to someone else

As for 1080 - it has gddr5x - and thats where problems comes for memory related algos
As for 1070 - in win 10 you have 650khs for neoscrypt
On win 8.1 i think i saw 900khs on neoscrypt - but i need to doublecheck - mind you in every algo it is around or beats 980ti with much less power consumption and seriously beating it in eth
Im on holidays right now and hope to test 480 when i come back and then we will see if how is the winner overall - the question with 480 - it will definitly wont ve able to beat 1070 in any algo - but how close it can get to it - both in perf and power - because we know the price

[Amph]

Honestly I don't think there is much to do on pascal as compared to maxwell, from the miner point of view.
I hope I'm proven wrong, but we should be happy with that 50% to 80% increase in hash/power ratio.
Excluding ether, of course (neoscrypt just needs to be tuned and lyra2re (v1) is dead).

80%? i didn't see any 80% in the 970 vs 1070, if it was the case, i would be more than happy, it would be a must buy for me

[pallas]

Honestly I don't think there is much to do on pascal as compared to maxwell, from the miner point of view.
I hope I'm proven wrong, but we should be happy with that 50% to 80% increase in hash/power ratio.
Excluding ether, of course (neoscrypt just needs to be tuned and lyra2re (v1) is dead).

80%? i didn't see any 80% in the 970 vs 1070, if it was the case, i would be more than happy, it would be a must buy for me

according to:

http://cryptomining-blog.com/7973-testing-the-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-founders-edition-for-crypto-mining/

1080 vs 970 is up to 120% faster (see lyra2v2 or nist5 for example).

1070 should be about 30% slower, so well over 80% faster than 970, in those cases.

Power usage similar, maybe even lower on 1070.

[Amph]

Honestly I don't think there is much to do on pascal as compared to maxwell, from the miner point of view.
I hope I'm proven wrong, but we should be happy with that 50% to 80% increase in hash/power ratio.
Excluding ether, of course (neoscrypt just needs to be tuned and lyra2re (v1) is dead).

80%? i didn't see any 80% in the 970 vs 1070, if it was the case, i would be more than happy, it would be a must buy for me

according to:

http://cryptomining-blog.com/7973-testing-the-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-founders-edition-for-crypto-mining/

1080 vs 970 is up to 120% faster (see lyra2v2 or nist5 for example).

1070 should be about 30% slower, so well over 80% faster than 970, in those cases.

Power usage similar, maybe even lower on 1070.

too bad this is not the case the 1070 is getting like 34MH on lyra, which is only 50% faster than a 970, i dunno about nist, can not find anything

...wait i think your math on % is wrong there, an increase of 50% is equal to a decrease of 30%, so being slower 30% is in fact equal to being faster of 50% not 80%

48MH on lyra for 1080 is equal to around 32MH(30% slower) on a 1070, and a 32MH is almost 50% higher versus 22MH on a 970

now based on the bench i see that a 1070 should be around 70% faster than a 970, so there is definetily room for an improvement in the code

[giagge]

I do not know whether to take 1x 1070 gtx or 2x amd 480 for mining all algo .

[sp_]

48MH on lyra for 1080 is equal to around 32MH(30% slower) on a 1070, and a 32MH is almost 50% higher versus 22MH on a 970

The gtx 970 does 25MHASH with my private bins and stable OC.

25->32 is 28% faster. But then again, I guess the 1070 can be overclocked as well . I just checked the local prices, and I can get two brand new gtx 970's for one 1070.

[joblo]

lyra2re (v1) is dead).

Not dead yet, have you taken a look at Nicehash lately? I have no clue what coin still uses lyra2RE
but it's been paying well on Nicehash for a few months,

It peaked at 1.59 BTC/GH/Day (0.53 normalized for nvidia) a couple of hours ago and even higher on CPU.

[Longsnowsm]

Honestly I don't think there is much to do on pascal as compared to maxwell, from the miner point of view.
I hope I'm proven wrong, but we should be happy with that 50% to 80% increase in hash/power ratio.
Excluding ether, of course (neoscrypt just needs to be tuned and lyra2re (v1) is dead).

80%? i didn't see any 80% in the 970 vs 1070, if it was the case, i would be more than happy, it would be a must buy for me

according to:

http://cryptomining-blog.com/7973-testing-the-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-founders-edition-for-crypto-mining/

1080 vs 970 is up to 120% faster (see lyra2v2 or nist5 for example).

1070 should be about 30% slower, so well over 80% faster than 970, in those cases.

Power usage similar, maybe even lower on 1070.

Nice, Thanks for sharing that link.  That shows some great promise.  I however will still not buy another "reference card" designed board, and will hold tight to see what else is offered.   I can hardly wait to see what our resident guru's can do with these boards as they start to code for them.

[Amph]

lyra2re (v1) is dead).

Not dead yet, have you taken a look at Nicehash lately? I have no clue what coin still uses lyra2RE
but it's been paying well on Nicehash for a few months,

It peaked at 1.59 BTC/GH/Day (0.53 normalized for nvidia) a couple of hours ago and even higher on CPU.

we are talking about lyra2v2 not normal lyra, v2 iscurrently at 0.17, there is no way that this value went to 1.59, would have meant making 0.03 a day for each 970, crazy as fuck...

[joblo]

lyra2re (v1) is dead).

Not dead yet, have you taken a look at Nicehash lately? I have no clue what coin still uses lyra2RE
but it's been paying well on Nicehash for a few months,

It peaked at 1.59 BTC/GH/Day (0.53 normalized for nvidia) a couple of hours ago and even higher on CPU.

we are talking about lyra2v2 not normal lyra, v2 iscurrently at 0.17, there is no way that this value went to 1.59, would have meant making 0.03 a day for each 970, crazy as fuck...

Try again.

[vaulter]

48MH on lyra for 1080 is equal to around 32MH(30% slower) on a 1070, and a 32MH is almost 50% higher versus 22MH on a 970

The gtx 970 does 25MHASH with my private bins and stable OC.

25->32 is 28% faster. But then again, I guess the 1070 can be overclocked as well . I just checked the local prices, and I can get two brand new gtx 970's for one 1070.

To be fair - its 34.5 for lyrarev2 on 1070 on latest cryptomining blog build for lyrarev2
And it was 45.5 for 1080 - if its 48 - overclocked or custom design board

[giagge]

lyra2re (v1) is dead).

Not dead yet, have you taken a look at Nicehash lately? I have no clue what coin still uses lyra2RE
but it's been paying well on Nicehash for a few months,

It peaked at 1.59 BTC/GH/Day (0.53 normalized for nvidia) a couple of hours ago and even higher on CPU.

we are talking about lyra2v2 not normal lyra, v2 iscurrently at 0.17, there is no way that this value went to 1.59, would have meant making 0.03 a day for each 970, crazy as fuck...

Try again.

Impossible...

I use NiceHashMiner.v1.5.1.0 with nvidia gtx 950 OC , i made 11 mhs in lyra 2v2 , and my gain is 0.002 btc/day , or you have another program plus power ? .

[sp_]

http://ffpool.net
was paying 1.5 BTC / GHASH for lyra2re, but not anymore. What happened to this pool?

[sp_]

Etherum from 19 euro down to 10euro in a few minutes. What's happening?


https://cryptowat.ch/kraken/etheur

Seems to be a security flaw in the DAO code/attack on the network.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4oi2ta/i_think_thedao_is_getting_drained_right_now/

The DAO is currently sustaining a sophisticated attack.
The entire Ethereum community, including the Ethereum Foundation and experts from various companies in the field are working together to analyse and attempt to stop the attacker.

https://blog.slock.it/dao-security-advisory-live-updates-2a0a42a2d07b#.g9245nq0r


The dao is down: $ 0.072066 (-59.78 %)