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at the moment is just better to mine monero than doing all that stuff
500 h/s for a 1070 doesnt seem the most profitable... yeah you need the sp mod which does 900hash, but i can do 700 with the open source one Still not worth even at 900. You're winding in your super expensive power again and making blanket statements you think apply to everyone. you didn't the math properly apparently, just check wattomine, with 900 per gpu it's equal to zcash and what my power have to do with this? your logic is stupid, because if it suit for me with expensive power, it should be even more profitable for other Depending on how much power is determines how much money you make, common sense, no? If you have expensive power, it may not pay to mine a algo that earns less then others that use more power. Currently Zcash uses more power then Cryptonote. And no Monero is earning less then Equihash (especially ZCL) at 900hash vs 360(stock). they use the same power that's the point, on my 6 x 1070 rig both use 700 watt full system, but obviously with only 700 hash per gpu with monero... is not worth it without the private miner... and yes the earning is very akin now, at the moment zcash(zcl was just recently pumped i wasn't counting on that) is slightly more profitable if we take in consideration 900 hash per gpu, but they are there sp said that it can be improved even more about 900 so... They don't use the same amount of power and even then, Equihash is currently earning more (revenue), especially ZCL. ZCL was earning more when you made that statement as was Zcash. We weren't talking about 'what if's'.
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January 04, 2017, 01:46:03 AM |
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What's the gap like on 10xx cards right now? For sols/s: sp vs nicehash miner?
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January 04, 2017, 03:27:22 AM |
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What's the gap like on 10xx cards right now? For sols/s: sp vs nicehash miner?
Where did you found sp's zcash miner?
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January 04, 2017, 03:37:36 AM |
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What's the gap like on 10xx cards right now? For sols/s: sp vs nicehash miner?
Where did you found sp's zcash miner? I didn't? I haven't been around in a bit I read most of the pages I missed but not all, I was just inquiring about performance differences. I assume he has one but he may not, or it may be private.
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January 04, 2017, 04:42:51 AM Last edit: January 04, 2017, 02:04:20 PM by scryptr |
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What's the gap like on 10xx cards right now? For sols/s: sp vs nicehash miner?
Where did you found sp's zcash miner? I didn't? I haven't been around in a bit I read most of the pages I missed but not all, I was just inquiring about performance differences. I assume he has one but he may not, or it may be private. WHEN YOU ASSUME SOMETHING-- When you assume something, you readily make an ASS of U and ME. There is currently no published Zcash miner form sp_. He is able to assembly-language modify promising crypro code. There may be a Zcash miner in the future. scryptr.
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January 04, 2017, 03:56:51 PM |
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I'm sorry but i have the zcash spmod_1 also. (nheqminer) I don't remember when sp post it but i have it too ! I think he remove the link form his github.
But the most important is to be thankfull for his work !!
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January 04, 2017, 06:07:49 PM |
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I'm sorry but i have the zcash spmod_1 also. (nheqminer) I don't remember when sp post it but i have it too ! I think he remove the link form his github.
But the most important is to be thankfull for his work !!
WELL, THAT MAKES ME AN ASS-- I don't know how fast it was, or is, but I didn't remember it when I made my previous post. Like the lost sp_ cryptonote miner... After over 1100 pages of C. Buchner's CUDA thread, 800 pages of sp_'s thread, and countless boobies posting Miss Information, I deserve a break. --scryptr
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January 04, 2017, 07:21:14 PM |
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Sooooooooo _sp, are you gonna keep your XMR miner private or release it under any form ? The world wish to know 
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January 04, 2017, 07:22:03 PM |
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Sooooooooo _sp, are you gonna keep your XMR miner private or release it under any form ? The world wish to know  at present it need to do 1000 hash with a single 1070 to compete with zcash
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January 04, 2017, 07:26:39 PM |
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Sooooooooo _sp, are you gonna keep your XMR miner private or release it under any form ? The world wish to know  at present it need to do 1000 hash with a single 1070 to compete with zcash At the moment yes, but you know how it goes, i prefer not having all my eggs in the same basket 
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January 05, 2017, 12:36:02 AM |
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Yeah, anyday you want to release this miner that'll be good.
Curious though, I've asked for improvements to Cryptonote over the last couple years. Years ago when it was addressed I was told that there is no room for improvement because Cryptonote is so memory intensive.
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January 05, 2017, 12:39:43 AM |
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Yeah, anyday you want to release this miner that'll be good.
Curious though, I've asked for improvements to Cryptonote over the last couple years. Years ago when it was addressed I was told that there is no room for improvement because Cryptonote is so memory intensive.
well memory amount & bandwith available on gpu's sure skyrocked quite a bit since the last few years 
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January 05, 2017, 03:35:13 AM |
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Yeah, anyday you want to release this miner that'll be good.
Curious though, I've asked for improvements to Cryptonote over the last couple years. Years ago when it was addressed I was told that there is no room for improvement because Cryptonote is so memory intensive.
well memory amount & bandwith available on gpu's sure skyrocked quite a bit since the last few years  This was about a year ago. Bandwidth hasn't increased much between 970s and 1070s. 
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January 05, 2017, 08:14:24 AM |
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Yeah, anyday you want to release this miner that'll be good.
Curious though, I've asked for improvements to Cryptonote over the last couple years. Years ago when it was addressed I was told that there is no room for improvement because Cryptonote is so memory intensive.
well memory amount & bandwith available on gpu's sure skyrocked quite a bit since the last few years  This was about a year ago. Bandwidth hasn't increased much between 970s and 1070s.  Ahhh you said Year s so i supposed it was 2+ years back  Also well 970 against 1070, 1070 got 10% more mem bandwith, 50% more mem clock and 50% more memory (8gb against 4gb), this is quite big  and also 20% more cuda cores aside from a few others things. Im eager to see what nvidia mining in 6 months will look, with all the optimisation coming, seems to get some traction  well at least till the VEGA, that one seems very strong on paper 
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January 05, 2017, 08:36:23 AM |
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Yeah, anyday you want to release this miner that'll be good.
Curious though, I've asked for improvements to Cryptonote over the last couple years. Years ago when it was addressed I was told that there is no room for improvement because Cryptonote is so memory intensive.
well memory amount & bandwith available on gpu's sure skyrocked quite a bit since the last few years  This was about a year ago. Bandwidth hasn't increased much between 970s and 1070s.  Ahhh you said Year s so i supposed it was 2+ years back  Also well 970 against 1070, 1070 got 10% more mem bandwith, 50% more mem clock and 50% more memory (8gb against 4gb), this is quite big  and also 20% more cuda cores aside from a few others things. Im eager to see what nvidia mining in 6 months will look, with all the optimisation coming, seems to get some traction  well at least till the VEGA, that one seems very strong on paper  monero also wans't that strong back in the day in value, there was no real incentive to make a better miners, it was all about bot-fest...
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January 05, 2017, 09:44:20 AM |
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Yeah, anyday you want to release this miner that'll be good.
Curious though, I've asked for improvements to Cryptonote over the last couple years. Years ago when it was addressed I was told that there is no room for improvement because Cryptonote is so memory intensive.
well memory amount & bandwith available on gpu's sure skyrocked quite a bit since the last few years  This was about a year ago. Bandwidth hasn't increased much between 970s and 1070s.  Ahhh you said Year s so i supposed it was 2+ years back  Also well 970 against 1070, 1070 got 10% more mem bandwith, 50% more mem clock and 50% more memory (8gb against 4gb), this is quite big  and also 20% more cuda cores aside from a few others things. Im eager to see what nvidia mining in 6 months will look, with all the optimisation coming, seems to get some traction  well at least till the VEGA, that one seems very strong on paper  monero also wans't that strong back in the day in value, there was no real incentive to make a better miners, it was all about bot-fest... Yes of course, all is possible if it's worth it financially  (FGPA/ASIC and such for example, or oil to take another example :p)
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January 05, 2017, 12:45:49 PM |
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Yeah, anyday you want to release this miner that'll be good.
Curious though, I've asked for improvements to Cryptonote over the last couple years. Years ago when it was addressed I was told that there is no room for improvement because Cryptonote is so memory intensive.
well memory amount & bandwith available on gpu's sure skyrocked quite a bit since the last few years  This was about a year ago. Bandwidth hasn't increased much between 970s and 1070s.  Ahhh you said Year s so i supposed it was 2+ years back  Also well 970 against 1070, 1070 got 10% more mem bandwith, 50% more mem clock and 50% more memory (8gb against 4gb), this is quite big  and also 20% more cuda cores aside from a few others things. Im eager to see what nvidia mining in 6 months will look, with all the optimisation coming, seems to get some traction  well at least till the VEGA, that one seems very strong on paper  Closer to a year and a half. The Maxwell series released in 2014 as well, so still within the 2-3 year timeframe.  You can also run the available Cryptonote miner, it doesn't max out the MCU, so no, it wasn't completely memory bound.  Memory size doesn't matter with most cryptos, only thing that changes with that is straps/latency, which is why some people buy 480s with 8g.  Cuda cores has nothing to do with what we were talking about. That's like comparing GPU processing power for Ethereum.  Hey look you're actually completely wrong on almost every account and don't know what you're talking about.  Do you also like condescending smileys?  The original post I made wasn't for a eth-baby like you, it was for devs who talk about algos and haven't taken time to look at them deeply enough and spit out a generic answer.  monero also wans't that strong back in the day in value, there was no real incentive to make a better miners, it was all about bot-fest...
Absolute bullshit. Monero and cryptonote coins in general have always been really strong, the price wasn't as high, but the hashrate wasn't either. Look at the volume. http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/monero/http://chainradar.com/xmr/chartEnter 500 hash into Whattomine and look at what it gives you.
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January 05, 2017, 01:32:08 PM |
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i was talking about the price obviously, not the coin itself, back it was dumped to the ground as low as 200k satoshi, not comparable with today
so dev weren't incentivated to do a better miner, not to mention there were far better option to mine at that time
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January 05, 2017, 01:41:44 PM |
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i was talking about the price obviously, not the coin itself, back it was dumped to the ground as low as 200k satoshi, not comparable with today
so dev weren't incentivated to do a better miner, not to mention there were far better option to mine at that time
And I mentioned that the difficulty has increased to match the price in addition to talking about the price. You know difficulty is correlative to how much you make, right? Literally right there... Even included links to charts. Far better option then what? As I said put 500hash into whattomine and look at profits for a 1070. 970s had even less hashrate back then.
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January 05, 2017, 01:49:30 PM |
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i was talking about the price obviously, not the coin itself, back it was dumped to the ground as low as 200k satoshi, not comparable with today
so dev weren't incentivated to do a better miner, not to mention there were far better option to mine at that time
And I mentioned that the difficulty has increased to match the price in addition to talking about the price. You know difficulty is correlative to how much you make, right? Literally right there... Even included links to charts. Far better option then what? As I said put 500hash into whattomine and look at profits for a 1070. 970s had even less hashrate back then. how can you compare now with what it was back then whattomine can't do anything, there were another better coins before, if you are talking about 2015 if you said "years" before and not "year" i can even assume 2014 which is even worse for monero, jackpotcoin alone put it to shame on profit
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