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Libry SP-mod #5 version 4 has been added at the same place. -Bugfix for high difficulty shares -Small improvement in the hashrate. Note that if you run with TDP less than 95 the gpu will downclock and you will loose hashrate. https://github.com/sp-hash/ccminer/releases/tag/LBRYSP5
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February 25, 2017, 11:54:07 AM |
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So you still care about ROI. Resale can be calculated into ROI as well... But once again, you're arguing for a extra $50 every year and a half on a GPU that earns you $300 in a year. If that GPU makes more then that $50, it's not worth selling. You're confusing ROI and resale with a argument we had before where we talked about opportunity cost. Yes, there is value in resale, no that's not the only thing you factor in when buying a GPU and ROI definitely damn well matters or you're slowly bleeding money away.
i only resale for the simply reason to have the better next gen card, that is the reason to resale, or to reach roi faster if profitability drop too low, but i mainly do it for the first reason Libry SP-mod #5 version 4 has been added at the same place. -Bugfix for high difficulty shares -Small improvement in the hashrate. Note that if you run with TDP less than 95 the gpu will downclock and you will loose hashrate. https://github.com/sp-hash/ccminer/releases/tag/LBRYSP5were you able to reach 10MH on spread?
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February 25, 2017, 12:48:56 PM |
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6 x GTX 1060 Gigabyte G1 Gaming 3G Power Limit: 80% Core: +150 Memory: -502 Driver Version: 376.33
15 minutes tests on yiimp pool:
tpruvot 1.8.4: 1089 MH/s alexis-1.0: 1122 MH/s lbry-sp5(v3): 1128 MH/s
Power Limit: 100%20 minutes tests on yiimp pool: tpruvot 1.8.4: 1098 MH/s alexis-1.0: 1123 MH/s lbry-sp5(v4): 1131 MH/s There's no big change when increasing power limit. Gigabyte cards has 180W TDP.
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February 25, 2017, 02:32:58 PM Last edit: February 25, 2017, 02:47:29 PM by sp_ |
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were you able to reach 10MH on spread?
Not yet, but getting closer.. +20% faster on the gtx 1070 on the same clock setting and launch config than #9. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi65.tinypic.com%2F14109sp.png&t=665&c=nfYvPQIbleeRlA)
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i mainly resale to switch to a better gpu and better efficiency, it doesn't make sense to me to keep mining with the same gpu when or if roi is reached
you can believe what you want but i've always sold them easily for at least 50-80%, with second hand stuff it's even better
if in your example nvidia release the 2070 after 1-2 year(usually this is the time frame not 2-3 years), i would sell the 1070 for 50-80%, like i did with the 970 after i bought them in 2014 and easily managed to sold them for 50% at least after two years, plus roi would be already done
and if it isn't done, with 50% of the value back you still managed to return all the money back(unless you're telling me that a gpu can't reach 50% of its roi in 1-2 years which is false), and in fact i didn't lose anything in any investment i did in crypto, actually i made money
Unless you have really high electricity prices, why? It's still earning you beyond ROI and not that much less that a new card would make up for the difference in price between selling the old and buying the new - again, unless you have really expensive electricity.
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February 25, 2017, 03:51:04 PM |
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I totally agree with @bathrobehero, unless you get "insta" ROI (in my case, with PASC @ mining early stages - CPU/GPU - where I got tons of ROI on the 1060 in 2-3 months after purchase). Buying a new card only brings you to zero point, unless extraordinary opportunities appear.
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February 25, 2017, 04:17:41 PM |
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i mainly resale to switch to a better gpu and better efficiency, it doesn't make sense to me to keep mining with the same gpu when or if roi is reached
you can believe what you want but i've always sold them easily for at least 50-80%, with second hand stuff it's even better
if in your example nvidia release the 2070 after 1-2 year(usually this is the time frame not 2-3 years), i would sell the 1070 for 50-80%, like i did with the 970 after i bought them in 2014 and easily managed to sold them for 50% at least after two years, plus roi would be already done
and if it isn't done, with 50% of the value back you still managed to return all the money back(unless you're telling me that a gpu can't reach 50% of its roi in 1-2 years which is false), and in fact i didn't lose anything in any investment i did in crypto, actually i made money
Unless you have really high electricity prices, why? It's still earning you beyond ROI and not that much less that a new card would make up for the difference in price between selling the old and buying the new - again, unless you have really expensive electricity. it also depend on how much is better the new one, for example if the new one is 2x faster and you sell your old gen for 50% you are not spending more to get the next gen but you have a better HW that let you expand more your farm, because you reduce the slot on your rig without wasting money on new components
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February 25, 2017, 04:47:33 PM |
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Spreadminer #10 results.
gtx 1060 3g: 5.3MHASH. (5.8 with oc.) gtx 1070: 8,7MHASH (9.3 with oc)
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February 25, 2017, 04:53:45 PM Last edit: February 25, 2017, 05:23:12 PM by Amph |
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Spreadminer #10 results.
gtx 1060 3g: 5.3MHASH. (5.8 with oc.) gtx 1070: 8,7MHASH (9.3 with oc)
not possible to reach 10MH? it was too good to be true, but 9+ is a nice result anyway
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February 25, 2017, 04:54:53 PM |
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I get 9,35 ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi63.tinypic.com%2Fdpih74.png&t=665&c=j6virG2KK6xuWw)
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February 25, 2017, 06:26:54 PM |
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Spreadcoin miner pascal edition has been released.
Since the old donations are from 2015, you need to donate 0.05BTC if you want it.
+20% boost on pascal cards or more..
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prices @75MHASH: 0,03047 * 0.075 = 0,00228525BTC per day ($2.4 per gtx 1070) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi66.tinypic.com%2Fj5juc7.png&t=665&c=9XxW7wFD6p2C_w) @SP - how do you get 75mh? I can only get 20 mh per 1070 and that is on (2) threads or (1) thread? Please advise.
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February 25, 2017, 06:45:54 PM |
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prices @75MHASH: 0,03047 * 0.075 = 0,00228525BTC per day ($2.4 per gtx 1070) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi66.tinypic.com%2Fj5juc7.png&t=665&c=9XxW7wFD6p2C_w) @SP - how do you get 75mh? I can only get 20 mh per 1070 and that is on (2) threads or (1) thread? Please advise. Groestl and Diamond is around 40MHASH, myriad around 75 MHASH.
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prices @75MHASH: 0,03047 * 0.075 = 0,00228525BTC per day ($2.4 per gtx 1070) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi66.tinypic.com%2Fj5juc7.png&t=665&c=9XxW7wFD6p2C_w) @SP - how do you get 75mh? I can only get 20 mh per 1070 and that is on (2) threads or (1) thread? Please advise. Groestl and Diamond is around 40MHASH, myriad around 75 MHASH. Ok - you are right - my mistake - sorry.
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Spreadcoin miner pascal edition has been released.
Since the old donations are from 2015, you need to donate 0.05BTC if you want it.
+20% boost on pascal cards or more..
Expected something like this. Anyway, network hashrate is only 399 Mh/s so it's a risky buy to me. As it stands 1 card would need 166 days to produce the price difference. If you reach 10 Mh/s without crazy OC I would buy it though.
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February 25, 2017, 08:35:25 PM |
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The gtx 1070 g1 gaming is doing 8.7 on standard clocks, but the power usage is high..
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February 25, 2017, 08:45:35 PM |
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SPMOD LBRY is giving me 300MH/s. You guys and your super tight. TDPs aren't going to get normal hashing numbers. It still surprises me some of you don't associate turning down the TDP with performance. Equihash is a niche case, you can't strangle the GPU for other algos normally. a 1070 is currently making $1 a day net, cost is included, this is 1 year roi without resale, resale is still very high on these gpu, 80% guaranteed
it's better than leaving your bitcoin doing nothing, this unless bitcoin go much higher after your purchase, that would be a bad luck
actually roi is always far less than the inestement of the gpu, even in the worst case you are still looking at 50% resale value, this mean that roi is 6 months in reality
i've always sold back my gpu without problem on private forum, gamers love used big gpu, i don't care about roi, because i switch immediately to the new gen cards which are more efficency, i never stay forever with the same gpu
Resale only matters at the end of the life of the GPU. I still have some 970s because they're still profitable. Even though they have good 'resale', they aren't worth anywhere close to what they use to be worth and it pays for me to keep them over selling them off. ROI matters to everyone. That's the time at which you start earning money back on your investment. That doesn't change even with resale value. So in 2-3 years when Nvidia releases then 2070 that replaces the 1070, you'll sell them off as you say, but you've still reached ROI and you still sell them for much less then they're worth right now. If you never reach ROI (because you don't care as you say) then you've never made any money and basically mining is pointless. Yeah, yeah... I'm sure you've sold them in a backroom somewhere for 400% their initial value, that STILL doesn't matter. That's not the way businesses work. You can't have a constant stock that doesn't earn you money. That doesn't even make sense. Resale is just for recouping part of your costs. It's not something you do constantly. @bensam1231 You should know by now that mainstream coins rarely ever pay the most.
We've had this discussion... Matter of a fact that's where my SIB rage came from, however, there is only so many coins that can support more then a handful of people or GPUs. I understand that you are probably very profficient in mining, but please do not talk about finance since you really have no clue how business calculate investments. And believe me, no multinational corporation will ever use ROI to decide if the investment is worth it. This index is just too simple to evaluate such a complex thing as an investment and it is constantly being overused in this community. The current standard is to use the Net present value of the discounted cash flow model, and guess what? It takes into account both "buy price" and "selling price" at the end. As it should of course, because without it, you will never calculate right if the investment is worth it. Also stock has nothing to do with it.
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February 25, 2017, 09:23:52 PM |
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Do you happen to know what is the speed on a 970? I've been off of the nvidia topics for a while. Do you have a modded ETH miner and if yes what is the speed on a 970? Spreadcoin miner pascal edition has been released.
Since the old donations are from 2015, you need to donate 0.05BTC if you want it.
+20% boost on pascal cards or more..
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February 25, 2017, 09:38:19 PM |
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Do you happen to know what is the speed on a 970?
I get a 10% boost from version 9 to 10 on the gtx 970.
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February 25, 2017, 09:40:32 PM |
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Do you happen to know what is the speed on a 970? I've been off of the nvidia topics for a while. Do you have a modded ETH miner and if yes what is the speed on a 970? Spreadcoin miner pascal edition has been released.
Since the old donations are from 2015, you need to donate 0.05BTC if you want it.
+20% boost on pascal cards or more..
was 5mh with spmod 9 but with crazy oc otherwise 4.xMH with no oc
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