CCminer(SP-MOD) Modded GPU kernels.

[pallas]

why there are like 2000 miners on yescrypt and 3000 for neoscrypt at zpool?!? I'm gettin poor results with free miners are they using some priv binaries or what? 

Botnets mining with cpu. Lotta power wasted.

[sp_]

nist5 sp-mod #2 sendt to the donators. Bugfixes and more hash.

[sp_]

Tomorrow I will send out blake2s #2 with some fixes.

[pthatung]

  Who mining nxs get block missing . It show like that.
"account" : "",
"category" : "orphan",
"amount" : 12.86984500,
"confirmations" : 0,
"txid" : "1f5321ae16791620945a3f6d67f1cbbb6cafbf2f1e5f3ad37685d6171f9ed81941831c1b613ce04 21befc44a9f638d824af22534afe83ab9f499ab4f21962112",
"time" : 1503280937
}
]

@sp_ can u give me some  help :< i use lld wallet before i got some block.

[caozhengwei]

@  SP 
     NXS #9

     The runtime computer some delay.What reason be?

[deuce9]

Who mining nxs get block missing . It show like that.
"account" : "",
"category" : "orphan",
"amount" : 12.86984500,
"confirmations" : 0,
"txid" : "1f5321ae16791620945a3f6d67f1cbbb6cafbf2f1e5f3ad37685d6171f9ed81941831c1b613ce04 21befc44a9f638d824af22534afe83ab9f499ab4f21962112",
"time" : 1503280937
}
]

@sp_ can u give me some  help :< i use lld wallet before i got some block.

You got an orphan unfortunately.

@  SP 
     NXS #9

     The runtime computer some delay.What reason be?

I cant get it to run stable with more than 3 cards. 8.2 32bit still the best version from sp for me.

[bensam1231]

Just gonna comment on the dumb ass idea one must open source their shit to prove they are not violating GPL...

Bensam - people are not guilty until proven innocent... yes, this applies to the people you don't like, too. Furthermore, reverse engineering shows tell-tale signs of this kind of shit - and yes, large companies have been caught doing it. Kindly shove it up your ass.

Oh yeah? And no one ever copies GPL coding here. That's why I find it hilarious. People have asked exactly the same thing of SP numerous times before whenever he releases a private miner and they also don't like the answer. Double standards are great.

Like I said, everyone copies everyone elses work, it's all a game of how well you hide it. In this case no one gives a shit most of the time unless you get a lot of attention... Like Claymore and SP. SP also could simply just lie and work on better encryption for his miners and once again we would be in the 'innocent until proven guilty' spectrum, right? Or is it whenever SP makes a new miner we simply assume it's based on GPL code? No one would ever do that in this thread. Why don't you get angry at them?

It's weird when you try to adhere to principles, but only when it suits your own agenda. XD

Actually, you probably have never read the GPL, or any derivative of it - I would bet money. Because if you had, you would know that it does not mean that random person X can say that they know Y software exists in a modified form, and demand the source...  but they must have a binary copy of it to have that right. And as such... your argument about "private miners" is about as full of shit as you are.

Actually I did and took part in conversations about it roughly a year ago in this very thread, but you're assuming things like always. And you just lost that money.

You seem to assume GPL licensing is some ruleset. This is the crypto frontier. No one gives two shits about a fancy rule book that's not enforced until it works in their favor, and then it's done by berating someone. As I mentioned and will also mention again, everyone copies everyone else here in various forms. It's not always verbatim, but it does indeed happen. It all comes down to how well you hide it. If it's just swapping variables and rewriting code to make it look slightly different, encrypting the contents and making them hard to read, or taking the idea and using it to write your own code. There are more ways to do that then one can shake a stick at. It's great you assume others have no understanding of coding.

Misconstruing what I'm saying as always. In this case it's fun to bag on someone who is essentially your business rival because it's good for your business, just the same as Chryo is doing in here. If we didn't have SP, other people would be either selling similar miners to big farms for a lot of cash in back rooms (like yourself).

SP is no Claymore and it would be great if he wrote everything from the ground up and appeased someone like yourself who really doesn't care about things till it suits your purpose, but he's just one guy writing code on a whim as a second job. As a miner, I'll damn well take that and fuck anyone who says otherwise (especially when ulterior motives move in).

It's closer to 40% slower or a 1070 is 40% faster. That's based off raw CUDA cores. Just off the top, this holds true in Skunk. A 1060 3GB is producing 19 while top results for a 1070 are 32. Which is almost exactly 40% increase. That's from Yiimp. Half as fast was a typo, I meant 50% (but it's closer to 40%).

19 x 1.5 is 28.5. The 40% slower is straight from the difference in cuda cores.

1080/ti both have issues with algos due to their GDDR5X memory. Even algos that they work 'properly' in they don't always get the full speed. You can look at Epsylons thread for more information on that. I had to hammer out a couple really big posts about it and rather not rehash that here. Either way the 1080/ti are bad buys, especially the TIs which have much higher power draw and coolers generally can't keep up with them, in addition to the increased system power draw that requires much more beefy PSUs. They're practically worthless in Dagger. For instance a 1080ti should routinely be 85% faster then a 1070 for the amount of CUDA cores it has, but rarely is and often is closer to 50% depending on the algo.

Best buy still is a 1070, even at the slightly higher prices they have currently.

1) Skunk 1060 6GB ~21, 1070 ~31 1080 ~41
21*1.5 = 31.5
21*2 =42
Straight forward.

2) 1080/ti have issues only with dagger-hashimoto algo. I don't know other. Other algos are like skunk.

3) Your maths is completely wrong
1060 - 115W 21Mh = 5.5W/Mh

1080 - 165W 41Mh = 4W/Mh


Of course you can tweak both of them gaining more or less, but anyway 1080 is superior in w/MH

4) 1080/ti are practically worthless only in 1 algo, but thanks to Claymore they are good in Dual mining leaving 1060/1070 far behind (of course it depends on second coins price). Most other algos don't need fast memory.

So right for the moment 1080 is the best choice because they cost only ~20-25% more than 1070.

Yup, you literally just rewrote what I just wrote for point one after not reading my post.

I don't care about watts a mh. That hasn't mattered for quite some time. A extra 100 watts of power for me at $.1 a KWH is $.24 a day. It's not anywhere closer to that. A extra 10 watts is $.024. Furthermore I never discussed efficiency, I was talking about hash a dollar. Not watts a hash.

1080/ti MOST DEFINITELY have issues with other algos other then dagger. Like I said a 1080ti wont achieve +85% performance over a 1070, most of the time it is +50%. Go look at Epsylons thread for discussion of this or look at Yiimp. I'm not going to spoonfeed you the information, you are definitely wrong.

GDDR5X is faster then GDDR5. Speed isn't the problem with those cards.

Actually, you probably have never read the GPL, or any derivative of it - I would bet money. Because if you had, you would know that it does not mean that random person X can say that they know Y software exists in a modified form, and demand the source...  but they must have a binary copy of it to have that right. And as such... your argument about "private miners" is about as full of shit as you are.

This is true.  But not only is sp_ not giving source to those he gives his binaries to (something required by the GPL), he's also complaining that people are giving his binaries to others (also something that the GPL allows). 

The GPL fully allows you to sell your software to whoever will pay for it.  But, upon request, you must give the source, and you cannot restrict others from giving the binary or source away.  He claims his binaries are "betas" and don't fall under the GPL, but there is no such distinction in the GPL's terms.

Regarding whether or not his ccminer versions fall under the GPL, they do, by his own admission (ie, the text in the miner specifically says it's based on other miners versions that are GPL'd).  Even if 99.9% of the code was written by sp_, the small bit that isn't would still require following the terms of the GPL

Yes he has to give you the source code, no that doesn't allow you to redistribute it or resell it. You're welcome to quote me that part of the GPL. You can very much have a close source and private miner with source code that's available without allowing people to freely redistribute or resell the work. Your purchase doesn't extend beyond you.

All devs that does nothing or mod to public, please get out of this thread.

You want to argue with SP about GPL, go and sue, not here, please get out of here.


Don't mess in this thread.

All sockpuppet accounts with no history controlled by the same couple people (in an obvious attempt to pretend many others support them), please get out of here.

Let's see if it works for me.

Sucks when people make sense and supporting other. You honestly think I would make a alt account or anyone here who is arguing with you would in order to fuck with you? Oh I see, you think you just get people banned therefore they attack you on alt accounts. I'm not petty and small like Chryo.

Careful guys, Wolf0 loses a argument to you he'll cry to the admin who sucks his dick to ban you. That is literally the epitome of a sore loser. And no, that statement has nothing to do with admins on BCT.

[bensam1231]

@sp

Hi there, CAN YOU PLEASE LET US USE CWI POOL. THANKS.

Can you take screenshot of the error message please...  

this actually makes me a very happy man ...
this proves two things ...
1 - we at CWI - REALLY - got under your skin so much so - that you had to write us into the mod ...
2 - how much of a TWAT you really are - and for the world to see ...
made me very happy indeed ...
only an imbecile of childish mentality and unscrupulous morals can do that ... and here you are ...
tanx rune stensland ... proving everything i have said about you - is SPOT ON ...
...
#crysx

I don't know, you seem to enjoy trying to shit in his thread while promoting your product. What does that count as?

Hmmm...

More insults and confirming what I just said.

Yup. I read this thread on a regular basis. You're a douche, a hypocrite, you're worse then SP in the way you try to manipulate people, and you pretend you're actually hot stuff. I wonder why people don't like you. Sorry I'm allergic to all of the above.

as if YOU have done ANYTHING worthwhile FOR the community and those that actually matter? ...
for the miners - the users - the PEOPLE ? ...
yup ... your words - thoughts - feelings - are worth much arent they? ...
imbecile ...
#crysx

lol, we've covered this before.

-I've went out of my way to point out niche coins
-Pointed out coins looking for new miners
-I've reported on problems with certain GPUs and flagged them for people buying hardware such as bad fans or high failure rate (as I DO have a lot of hardware)
-I commissioned a BBR stratum implementation through Epsylon which is currently in ccminer and that's the sole reason it is there
-I've contributed to AM development which a lot of miners are currently using in this very thread.

Now you on the other hand, shit talk one of the few god Nvidia developers we have constantly SP, try to take public devs private to make your own miners which you generally don't share with people, go out of your way to ruin things for another developer because you decided to making a competing product (which you more then likely just stole code and remasked it), and generally speaking you're just a cyst on the community.

If you want to talk about doing anything, WHAT have you done? You made a half ass miner that is locked specifically to one pool (which you run) and in order to get people to use it you go around in someone elses thread and try to make them look bad, so you look better.

Speaking of GPL code. Is your source code available? Oh no? How do we know it doesn't use GPL code? That's the funny thing about this witch burning. Everyone is a fucking witch at some level, it's just who hides it better.

You can't even make paragraphs or finish a thought, they're always followed by insults as well.

Don't even bother replying to it - we all know Bensam is damaged, a troll, or both. He can keep bowing to sp_ for his (usually fake) miniscule "optimizations."

The jealousy some of you guys have over SP getting a lot of attention is insane. Guess I'll buy your 10BTC AMD miner instead... Oh wait.

Q-Q-Q-QUAD SHAMELESS THREAD BUMP! Here, cuz - I'll bump it for you, so you don't feel so bad!

When wolf0 is back in town, something big is cooking... :-)

I found a way I can help hit sp_ - a cheap profiteer who gives real devs a bad name - where it hurts. And so, I shall.

He couldn't compete with Claymore and decided to come over here cause SP is getting attention and he wants some. XD

Bad name? Something about you selling private x11 bins to big farms back in '14 and completely destroying profits for the entirety of the AMD community (AKA small AMD miners)...

once again shitsam - nothing worth a pinch of salt to add ...

guess who HELPED rune to get where he is? ... and then he backstabbed me in the process? ...

read back the multitude of pages where 'chrysophylax' and 'crysx' was on almost every page when sp was starting out - and YOU were no where to be found you cretinous imbecile ...

it was YOU that 'shit' - and still do - on EVERY OTHER decent developer out there ... from wolf and djm34 to alexis78 today ... YOU - the numbskull that has no morals at all - just like your fake 'god' rune / sp ...

and you STILL manage to come in with the crap about all this - and how you have somehow helped in someway - with some garbage 'fact' that you conjure up about source that EVERYONE needs to see to prove that we are not violating GPL as well? ... nice try ... why dont we just opensource our code so rune can copy that also? ... so you can come in here and spill more bullshit about how you help people in the mining community so much - that you are showing the 'best' guy to BUY OUR miner from after he copy-pastes it and tweaks a few things in it ...

our next version for testing is nothing like ANY miner on the market AGAIN - and there is absolutely NOTHING you can do to force us to publicly show our code so your 'god' can copy it ...

and as for the writing style? ... well - im SOOO happy it gets under your skin ... really i am ...

i even asked sp back then to start off with me - so that he could join a TEAM that could be built to make a good mining environment using what skills he may have had ...

his response? ... 'no - my optimizations are for MY farm and to grow MY farm' ... thats your 'god' right there ... thats when i knew this is no honest dev - this is just a greedy selfish person who has learnt how to do a few tricks in the kernels to SHOW more hashrate ... so i went looking for a DEVELOPER that could actually WRITE CODE ... found wolf and tanguy and a few others - back in the days you were not even interested is rune / sp or any of 'his' so called work ... yes rune CAN code - but in assembly ... which is what he does for a living in the company he works for in norway ... NOT kernels and C++ / CUDA / OpenCL ... so when a greedy conniving person like rune hatches a plan to break the GPL because 'no one' is policing it AND meddle with a little bit of the code to make it look like its a better hashrate - that does NOT make him a 'god' of optimization ...

get your facts straight - and LEARN how to research well - before that mouth of yours rattles off the diarrhea you continuously drivel ...

rune has build a farm of many hundreds of gpus from what? ... his own hard work? ... or the work of others he has no right to sell? ... YES - he can sell his changes to the miner - BUT he MUST supply the source code WITH it ... NOT so 'we' can copy it - just so he can ABIDE by the GPL rules and LAW ... as the GPL is there for the coders that HAVE released the work - and rune is using that as his BASE to tweak ... so he needs do the RIGHT thing ... but doesnt ... and neither are you ...

the real developers CODE ... not 'just' copy ... and when they base their work on GPL code - the REAL developers release their changes and code ... just so rune can copy and privatize and sell to grow HIS farm ... you are a special kind of imbecile to think that is ok - even on a logical level let alone a moral one ...

You didn't do anything to help SP get where he is anymore then I did by buying his miners or donating. You aren't entitled to someones life work by buying from them. Nor is what they buy with their money 'yours' after you purchase something from them. That is some seriously gross sense of entitlement.

Posting a lot != helping. Like these last couple pages where you've just been shit talking SP. I guess by your definition that's also helping. ~_~

You also tried to buy SP, Epsylon, DJM, and Pallas out to make them one of your private devs. That doesn't help the community remotely.

I don't shit talk developers. Quote it or you're flat out lying. The only one I maintain some animonsity towards is Wolf0 who lost me (and every other AMD miner in '14) a bunch of money.

Yup, I have helped and bulleted it. You responded with insult. And yup, you also wont reveal your source code so people can verify you aren't violating GPL licensing. Weird... That conveniently works out, doesn't it? Like I said, everyone copies everyone else here, it's just a game of who hides it the best. That's all GPL licensing is.

Yup, changing your UI != different miner. I'll be wowed by the letterhead and UI output I'm sure.

Yes, you're a dumbass that still doesn't know how to write paragraphs. It gets under not only my skin, but pretty much anyone else who has to wade through your pile of shit posts that are everywhere and take up four times as much room as they need to.

I never said SP is 'my god' (seriously it's like you're jacking yourself off when you write some of this stuff). I do know he makes me miners that I can purchase that I otherwise wouldn't be able to that also earn me money. That's win win. I do know you've tried to start multiple unsucessful ventures including poaching developers that public miners have access to and know that doesn't help me in addition to you constantly shit talking in his thread to give your own product attention.

It's really weird that you can't even stick by your own points and have to fall back on insults right away. If you notice my posts are generally driven by points and fact and sometimes flavorfully punctuated with a insult, but my points themselves are not derived from insults. Where as you basically made an entire section describing a insult and how it pertains to me? And ranted about said insult for half your post. I literally clipped 1/2 of your post as that was all it was

Funny as though you're portraying SP as a 'false idol' all the while you're desperately trying to make people think you are a god of some kind? I will use your miner when it makes me money, I don't see any point in any of your posts till then. That's what this all comes down to. Making money and you aren't doing it. All you can do is tell how much money you'll make in the future and we're supposed to worship you (all the while you shit talk people that actually DO make us money).

Weird how that works, no?

every single point of yours is completely moot ...

me a God? ... I portray nothing of the like - nor will i even respond on a categorical basis to you unfounded and ridiculous assumptions ... i like being in the background doing the work i do best ... as for CWI and theTEAM - the same ...

i never tried to 'buy' anyone - ever ... i gave an option to ALL the devs to work WITH me ( and ultimately WITH CWI ) to create a better system for miners ...

ask them instead of basing your statements of complete and utter garbage - like you usually do ...

and YOU use 'my' miner? - pffft ... as if we give a damn whether YOU do or not ... YOU are not the community of miners - YOU are no more important than the community of miners - YOU are not someone we would be happy with ANY form of critique from - because YOU are a biased cretin that would have no more a sense of what you have in your hands / computer than a dog vomiting up its breakfast ...

you are already criticizing CWIgm for its interface - when all you have to go by is - nothing ... so your opinion of our work means nothing ...

and making YOU money? ... what a farce ... if you think by any means whatsoever that rune / sp is doing ANYTHING in the realm of helping YOU to make money - you are gravely mistaken ... its HIS pocket he is concerned wit - not yours ... thats why he does what he does ... and we have NEVER made it a point to make people 'money' - just create better applications so the things become MUCH more productive and inducive to a better working environment ...

as for CWI - its a business you complete twat! ... who opens a business NOT to make money FOR the business ... failed ventures? ... why dont you ask bill gates - or sir richard branson - or elon musk - just HOW MANY ventures they started before actually succeeding in ONE ... microsoft - virgin - tesla respectively ... you have absolutely no concept do you ...

but all good and well ...

funny how sp is a complete flurry to 'optimize' all these other algos s quickly ... when he knows that the release of our CWIgm WILL have more and more algos ... AND is making as much money as he can to 'make YOU money' ...

weird how that works - no?

#crysx

LOL 'me a god? I portray nothing of the like' - proceeds to do just that.

Once again 'I never tried to buy anyone' rewords 'buying someone' in a different way.

Yeah, no, you buying up open source devs and even private devs that sell miners to small miners doesn't help small miners. That helps you. Only reason you have a publicly available Skunk miner (which is probably copied from SP anyway) is because it's not profitable for you to mine yourself with it. If it was, you wouldn't be allowing public users to use it, you've said as much yourself.

Oh and lets take this a bit further. Most of us mine on Epsylons pool, Yiimp, not just because it's a great pool, but also because it supports one of the communities developers. You make a competing pool that your miner is locked to and you essentially take that fee away from Epsylon. So you're actually hurting not only SP, but another one of the developers in the community by making a locked pool. Interesting... Huh...

I didn't criticize CWI for it's interface, you can't even read. I said that's the only thing that looks different as you attempt to 'wow' people, meanwhile it's a inferior miner to SPs.

Why would I care if you care if I use your miner? I said I would use it if it's better. I don't care who the miner comes from, I'll use it regardless of any spitting that's going on. It's not. So I'm not using it.

Uh... lol, I use his miner, it produces more hashrate, pool confirms I'm making more hashrate, I pay off the miner, I make more money. It's literally like the foundation of mining. Not sure how you can try and make that seem otherwise, but you did anyway. You showed me good.

Yup, rich people have failed ventures, I like how you're trying to make it seem like people who have failed ventures will become rich people... Also linking it with yourself. Lets go back to the opening statement of you portraying yourself as a god...

Calling me a cretin (which is often used religiously) followed up with "and i have to admit i slipped and gave you the benefit of the doubt about your intelligence and logic ... my bad ..." and literally spent an entire paragraph calling me a imbecile. It doesn't take much at all to find hypocrisy and completely illogical things in what you say. Oh and then just copy/pasting 'weird how that works - no?' doesn't mean you're using it properly. For instance, using that as a insult there would have to be some weird correlation you formed that isn't normally thought about, you never did that. At least take time to think out your insults before you just copy paste them. XD


You know the kicker here is you're literally trying to do something I mentioned over a year and a half ago in this very thread on multiple occasions while discussing different ways of supporting community developers. Where I mentioned that there should be a company that could compensate developers for their work and make a miner that everyone uses. Assuming they can get the best developers on board, they could control the majority of the hashrate for Nvidia (or AMD, which is what Claymore does) and skim a percentage off the top. That would be win-win for everyone as keeping developers employed is a big deal in order to keep miners from going completely private. I'm sure you've never read this thread.

Weird how that works, no?

[abudfv2008]

It's closer to 40% slower or a 1070 is 40% faster. That's based off raw CUDA cores. Just off the top, this holds true in Skunk. A 1060 3GB is producing 19 while top results for a 1070 are 32. Which is almost exactly 40% increase. That's from Yiimp. Half as fast was a typo, I meant 50% (but it's closer to 40%).

19 x 1.5 is 28.5. The 40% slower is straight from the difference in cuda cores.

1080/ti both have issues with algos due to their GDDR5X memory. Even algos that they work 'properly' in they don't always get the full speed. You can look at Epsylons thread for more information on that. I had to hammer out a couple really big posts about it and rather not rehash that here. Either way the 1080/ti are bad buys, especially the TIs which have much higher power draw and coolers generally can't keep up with them, in addition to the increased system power draw that requires much more beefy PSUs. They're practically worthless in Dagger. For instance a 1080ti should routinely be 85% faster then a 1070 for the amount of CUDA cores it has, but rarely is and often is closer to 50% depending on the algo.

Best buy still is a 1070, even at the slightly higher prices they have currently.

1) Skunk 1060 6GB ~21, 1070 ~31 1080 ~41
21*1.5 = 31.5
21*2 =42
Straight forward.

2) 1080/ti have issues only with dagger-hashimoto algo. I don't know other. Other algos are like skunk.

3) Your maths is completely wrong
1060 - 115W 21Mh = 5.5W/Mh

1080 - 165W 41Mh = 4W/Mh


Of course you can tweak both of them gaining more or less, but anyway 1080 is superior in w/MH

4) 1080/ti are practically worthless only in 1 algo, but thanks to Claymore they are good in Dual mining leaving 1060/1070 far behind (of course it depends on second coins price). Most other algos don't need fast memory.

So right for the moment 1080 is the best choice because they cost only ~20-25% more than 1070.

Yup, you literally just rewrote what I just wrote for point one after not reading my post.

I don't care about watts a mh. That hasn't mattered for quite some time. A extra 100 watts of power for me at $.1 a KWH is $.24 a day. It's not anywhere closer to that. A extra 10 watts is $.024. Furthermore I never discussed efficiency, I was talking about hash a dollar. Not watts a hash.

1080/ti MOST DEFINITELY have issues with other algos other then dagger. Like I said a 1080ti wont achieve +85% performance over a 1070, most of the time it is +50%. Go look at Epsylons thread for discussion of this or look at Yiimp. I'm not going to spoonfeed you the information, you are definitely wrong.

GDDR5X is faster then GDDR5. Speed isn't the problem with those cards.

1) Are you able to read? I wrote that 1080 is the best buy. It gives more Hasrate/$ than 1060/1070 (for now). It cost 20% more than 1070 but give:

Skunk 1060 6GB ~21, 1070 ~31 1080 ~41 (32%)
Tribus 1060 ~40 1070 ~54 1080 ~77 (42%)
Skein 1060 ~380 1070 ~550 1080 ~720(30%)
Nist5 1070 48.5 1080 64.5 (32%)
Equihash 1070 460 1080 580(26%)
etc.
Everywhere 1080 outperforms 1070 more than it cost. Practicaly daggerhashimoto is the only exception.
As far as most algos are just a combinations of previous ones the picture is the same for most of them.

2) What do you mean "I never discussed efficiency". Who wrote:
"Either way the 1080/ti are bad buys, especially the TIs which have much higher power draw and coolers generally can't keep up with them, in addition to the increased system power draw that requires much more beefy PSUs."

So I pointed that you are completely wrong. You will need more power, you will need more PSU in case you have 1060rigs instead of 1080. It is because 1080 are 25-30% more efficient.

[zijieli]

Ccminer can not mine GroestlCoin in Dwarfpool
How should i set up bat, or set difficulty in Dwarfpool

[D8V1D]

Everyone needs to stop responding to the bensam1231 troll. He loves to argue with people and thinks he's so smart.
All he's really doing is spamming the thread with his useless remarks to farm his legendary status.

[mystere_miner]

Actually I did and took part in conversations about it roughly a year ago in this very thread, but you're assuming things like always. And you just lost that money.

You seem to assume GPL licensing is some ruleset. This is the crypto frontier. No one gives two shits about a fancy rule book that's not enforced until it works in their favor, and then it's done by berating someone. As I mentioned and will also mention again, everyone copies everyone else here in various forms. It's not always verbatim, but it does indeed happen. It all comes down to how well you hide it. If it's just swapping variables and rewriting code to make it look slightly different, encrypting the contents and making them hard to read, or taking the idea and using it to write your own code. There are more ways to do that then one can shake a stick at. It's great you assume others have no understanding of coding.

Uhh.. i'm sorry, but are you calling international criminal law "some ruleset"?

Dude, you can go to get-fucked-up-the-ass prison for violating this.  No, it's not particularly likely, but if your moral compass is so skewed that you will willingly violate laws in virtually every country just because you don't think you'll get caught.. then that says more about you than anyone else.

The copyright holders (those sp_ has based his work on) can sue him, if they want.  And given the amount of money he's collected on this, they could probably get every cent of it, plus treble damages for willful violation.  Of course, the fact that many of these people are in different countries makes this much harder to do, and such suits are expensive, and even if they won, it's hard to say if they'd ever collect.  But, it still says something about your moral character.

[sp_]

I have sendt out a fix in the nist5 algo. sp-mod #2 fixed.

[GreenFingers]

Everyone needs to stop responding to the bensam1231 troll. He loves to argue with people and thinks he's so smart.
All he's really doing is spamming the thread with his useless remarks to farm his legendary status.

You have hit the nail on the head there my friend.  He has been on my ignore list for ages but people keep quoting his posts, very annoying.

[sp_]

God Damn I love you w0lf, quoting Tupac now, shit is on fire.  I just follow this thread for the entertainment value.

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Thanks for the reply - got more to do than keep up with him all day. As an aside... quite good taste on the second - Bump Heads is damn good.

This was made before you where born

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[bensam1231]

It's closer to 40% slower or a 1070 is 40% faster. That's based off raw CUDA cores. Just off the top, this holds true in Skunk. A 1060 3GB is producing 19 while top results for a 1070 are 32. Which is almost exactly 40% increase. That's from Yiimp. Half as fast was a typo, I meant 50% (but it's closer to 40%).

19 x 1.5 is 28.5. The 40% slower is straight from the difference in cuda cores.

1080/ti both have issues with algos due to their GDDR5X memory. Even algos that they work 'properly' in they don't always get the full speed. You can look at Epsylons thread for more information on that. I had to hammer out a couple really big posts about it and rather not rehash that here. Either way the 1080/ti are bad buys, especially the TIs which have much higher power draw and coolers generally can't keep up with them, in addition to the increased system power draw that requires much more beefy PSUs. They're practically worthless in Dagger. For instance a 1080ti should routinely be 85% faster then a 1070 for the amount of CUDA cores it has, but rarely is and often is closer to 50% depending on the algo.

Best buy still is a 1070, even at the slightly higher prices they have currently.

1) Skunk 1060 6GB ~21, 1070 ~31 1080 ~41
21*1.5 = 31.5
21*2 =42
Straight forward.

2) 1080/ti have issues only with dagger-hashimoto algo. I don't know other. Other algos are like skunk.

3) Your maths is completely wrong
1060 - 115W 21Mh = 5.5W/Mh

1080 - 165W 41Mh = 4W/Mh


Of course you can tweak both of them gaining more or less, but anyway 1080 is superior in w/MH

4) 1080/ti are practically worthless only in 1 algo, but thanks to Claymore they are good in Dual mining leaving 1060/1070 far behind (of course it depends on second coins price). Most other algos don't need fast memory.

So right for the moment 1080 is the best choice because they cost only ~20-25% more than 1070.

Yup, you literally just rewrote what I just wrote for point one after not reading my post.

I don't care about watts a mh. That hasn't mattered for quite some time. A extra 100 watts of power for me at $.1 a KWH is $.24 a day. It's not anywhere closer to that. A extra 10 watts is $.024. Furthermore I never discussed efficiency, I was talking about hash a dollar. Not watts a hash.

1080/ti MOST DEFINITELY have issues with other algos other then dagger. Like I said a 1080ti wont achieve +85% performance over a 1070, most of the time it is +50%. Go look at Epsylons thread for discussion of this or look at Yiimp. I'm not going to spoonfeed you the information, you are definitely wrong.

GDDR5X is faster then GDDR5. Speed isn't the problem with those cards.

1) Are you able to read? I wrote that 1080 is the best buy. It gives more Hasrate/$ than 1060/1070 (for now). It cost 20% more than 1070 but give:

Skunk 1060 6GB ~21, 1070 ~31 1080 ~41 (32%)
Tribus 1060 ~40 1070 ~54 1080 ~77 (42%)
Skein 1060 ~380 1070 ~550 1080 ~720(30%)
Nist5 1070 48.5 1080 64.5 (32%)
Equihash 1070 460 1080 580(26%)
etc.
Everywhere 1080 outperforms 1070 more than it cost. Practicaly daggerhashimoto is the only exception.
As far as most algos are just a combinations of previous ones the picture is the same for most of them.

2) What do you mean "I never discussed efficiency". Who wrote:
"Either way the 1080/ti are bad buys, especially the TIs which have much higher power draw and coolers generally can't keep up with them, in addition to the increased system power draw that requires much more beefy PSUs."

So I pointed that you are completely wrong. You will need more power, you will need more PSU in case you have 1060rigs instead of 1080. It is because 1080 are 25-30% more efficient.

Funny coming from someone who couldn't read far enough to see that my original number was a typo. XD

As far as 'being the best deal', that's subject to backing it up with points, which is what we're doing right now. So, no, just because you say something and I read it doesn't mean I'm going to believe it or that I didn't read it.

Yup, I discussed POWER DRAW, which pertains to cooling, not efficiency (literally worded it exactly that way). You can have something that draws a crapton of power and is insanely efficient (or inefficient). That's why you need a three slot cooler to cool a 1080 TI well, which I stipulated specifically that, once again reader comprehension is your friend.

Yes, the 1080 scales much better then the 1080ti, but when it comes down to it, it still has issues with some algos. Bitcore for instance it only scales up by 20% based on numbers on Yiimp. 25% for Lbry.

While it doesn't seem like much, it essentially nullifies the benefit of buying the card in the first place as the smaller that number gets, the less that card is actually worth. In addition to that Nvidia mining has been pushed down to the point of dual mining being an effective alternative to mining big Nvidia coins (as profitability of Nvidia has fallen). Further into the future Ethereum, specifically Dagger serves as a fall back and 1080/tis can't mine either of those worth crap. Right now you can make more mining Eth+Dcr on a 1070 compared to just Equihash. I mentioned that earlier this year multiple times and even earlier last week before it happened and it happened again, it will happen in the future as well.

Niche coins don't last forever and high volume coins are the ultimate fall back for mining as it supports the highest number of miners (assuming no private miners, all else being equal).

The 1080/tis have been out for quite awhile, especially the 1080. Earlier this year and last year 1070s were earning more then 1080s due to what they're capable of mining. It's not always that way and it's nice when algos scale appropriately, but they don't always and when it really matters you don't want to be stuck in the boat where it doesn't scale (say if a new algo comes out that is heavily memory dependent like Dagger).

Actually I did and took part in conversations about it roughly a year ago in this very thread, but you're assuming things like always. And you just lost that money.

You seem to assume GPL licensing is some ruleset. This is the crypto frontier. No one gives two shits about a fancy rule book that's not enforced until it works in their favor, and then it's done by berating someone. As I mentioned and will also mention again, everyone copies everyone else here in various forms. It's not always verbatim, but it does indeed happen. It all comes down to how well you hide it. If it's just swapping variables and rewriting code to make it look slightly different, encrypting the contents and making them hard to read, or taking the idea and using it to write your own code. There are more ways to do that then one can shake a stick at. It's great you assume others have no understanding of coding.

Uhh.. i'm sorry, but are you calling international criminal law "some ruleset"?

Dude, you can go to get-fucked-up-the-ass prison for violating this.  No, it's not particularly likely, but if your moral compass is so skewed that you will willingly violate laws in virtually every country just because you don't think you'll get caught.. then that says more about you than anyone else.

The copyright holders (those sp_ has based his work on) can sue him, if they want.  And given the amount of money he's collected on this, they could probably get every cent of it, plus treble damages for willful violation.  Of course, the fact that many of these people are in different countries makes this much harder to do, and such suits are expensive, and even if they won, it's hard to say if they'd ever collect.  But, it still says something about your moral character.

Yup. Tell the FBI to give me my money back from the BTCe seizure. Oh, it's not going to happen? But what about laws, unlawful seizures, 'morals'. Huh...

Same as anyone getting prosecuted on here from GPL violations. You can give me a case of a developer on BCT getting prosecuted, that would be a interesting read.

The funny thing is, for all the chest beating some of you do, you don't have anyway of actually backing any of it up... And you know it. So you just chest beat harder with sentences like "get-fucked-up-the-ass prison" (lol how many people have went to prison for GPL violations? XD) as a deterrent for any sort of meaningful recourse. In order to actually form a lawsuit someone whose code is violated would actually have to know who they're actually talking to in real life (find their address and where they live, their real name), get a lawyer, and issue a cease and desist. Do you think any of that has happened to SP? Nope. Furthermore all he has to do is rewrite code to make it GPL compliant. IE just swap around some variables and change lines so they look different.

So, in the end whoever takes time to sue him isn't even going to get anything out of it besides a loss of money on their end. It makes this sort of a argument absolutely pointless. Which is why this is all posturing and trying to make it seem like something realllllly bad is going to happen, when we all know it's not going to. Just like people who illegally redistribute SPs work, Wolfs work, or any other developers who make a private miner on here are never going to get a DMCA notice (funny some of you think that's not illegal).

[Epsylon3]

quote quote quote .... kodak

[sp_]

Monero $90 !!

[cryptolelefla]

i'm trying to mine @ chainwork
this my miner setting
does pool is not compatible with miner o something else bad?

ccminer.exe -a skunk  -o stratum+tcp://stratum.chainworksindustries.com:2000 -u user.rig03 -p password -i 25 -d 5 -b 4070

*** Based on tpruvot@github ccminer
*** Originally based on Christian Buchner and Christian H. project
*** Include some of the work of djm34, sp, tsiv and klausT.

[2017-08-22 14:34:20] Pussy pool detected..
Try `ccminer --help' for more information.

[Bibi187]

i'm trying to mine @ chainwork
this my miner setting
does pool is not compatible with miner o something else bad?

ccminer.exe -a skunk  -o stratum+tcp://stratum.chainworksindustries.com:2000 -u user.rig03 -p password -i 25 -d 5 -b 4070

*** Based on tpruvot@github ccminer
*** Originally based on Christian Buchner and Christian H. project
*** Include some of the work of djm34, sp, tsiv and klausT.

[2017-08-22 14:34:20] Pussy pool detected..
Try `ccminer --help' for more information.

U try to use SP_mod that why, go on main ccminer SP_mod thread, go some page back, u will find fix